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  • Betislands
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-17-11
    • 547

    #281
    This thread has taken a turn for the worst , the OP got money sent by mistake he decided to keep the money and that is the end of story.

    How our reputation is now even being questioned is beyond me. All of you that have played at Betislands are well aware of how we handle our business and most specifically our payouts.

    Mistakes happen OP could have sent the money back he decided to keep it , I am over it maybe everyone else should as well.

    Take care guys!

    Jon
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    • YorkHunt
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-11-10
      • 7496

      #282
      Hey john what are you willing to do for someone who covers the 1500?
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      • Betislands
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-17-11
        • 547

        #283
        Originally posted by YorkHunt
        Hey john what are you willing to do for someone who covers the 1500?
        Thanks York but the answer is nothing , each account is treated different you send $1500 you get a nice bonus.

        I do not think there is any bookmaker on earth that has never been stiffed or slow paid , I am not surprised this is just part of the business sometimes people see a quick payday and take it and never look back .. OP did that.

        I do my best for clients and for the most part I think everyone walks away satisfied from Betislands , hey its part of the game.

        Cheers!!
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        • BEANTOWNJIM
          SBR MVP
          • 08-12-05
          • 4610

          #284
          HEY JON I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU THERE ARE ALSO BOOKMAKERS WHO STIFF AND SLOW PAY US ALSO I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF MANY TIMES BY BOOKIES IT WORKS BOTH WAYS JON NOT JUST THE BOOKMAKERS

          ASK LENNY FROM CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHY HE STOLE 660 DOLLARS FROM ME AND I NEVER SAW IT
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          • marcojuiceman
            SBR MVP
            • 05-25-11
            • 2870

            #285
            Originally posted by Betislands

            I am over it maybe everyone else should as well.

            Take care guys!

            Jon
            Jon is only $1500
            Shit happens its called the Business World..
            Politicians/IRS scam and rob the American ppl of their Wealth all the time
            So what is everyone bitching over...
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            • prop
              SBR MVP
              • 09-04-07
              • 1073

              #286
              Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
              ASK LENNY FROM CASCADE SPORTSBOOK WHY HE STOLE 660 DOLLARS FROM ME AND I NEVER SAW IT
              This one never gets old.
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              • Betislands
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-17-11
                • 547

                #287
                I can only speak for myself and the people who do pay , its just part of the business.

                Cheers
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #288
                  Sammy is going to re-up w/BI just because of this thread and Jon's acumen & demeanor

                  Cant do it today , jon

                  will contact BI (Dutch ?) tomorrow
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                  • wrongturn
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-06-06
                    • 2228

                    #289
                    Hey Jon, if you want to increase the payout time by one day or two because of this incident, I will totally understand.
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                    • DudleyDawson
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-10-12
                      • 5658

                      #290
                      All the people in this thread saying OP should send it back is quite funny...most of the people telling Astros to send it back would keep it too...OP should most definitely send the money back, but not cause a bunch of strangers on an internet gambling forum are saying to do so....but cause he knows himself it's the right thing to do. Maybe the guy wasn't raised right? What else could it be?

                      Jon/Betislands have been an absolute class act since I started playing there over 18 months ago....no better option for Americans....the only other book I'd put up there with Betislands is Heritage. That's it.

                      ALWAYS excellent customer service..

                      great bonuses..

                      lightning fast payouts..

                      great software..

                      good lines..

                      great options..

                      Having said all that...I do think SBR banning OP's posting privileges was an absolute BUSH LEAGUE move...just IMO..
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                      • HedgeHog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-11-07
                        • 10128

                        #291
                        Bush League was starting this thread. OP got what he deserved.
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                        • BEANTOWNJIM
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-12-05
                          • 4610

                          #292
                          SEE JON ITS ON IN HOW YOU HANDLE THIS MATTER IF YOU LAUGH IT OFF AND SAY HEY ASTROS GOT LUCKY YOU WILL ATTRACT MORE PLAYERS.

                          LIKE I SAID JON I WASNT EVEN THINKING OF BET ISLANDS BUT SINCE I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS THREAD I FEEL GOOD ABOUT GOING BACK TO BET ISLANDS

                          TAKE A NEGATIVE JON AND TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE YOUR GOING TO GET GOOD PUBLICITY OUT OF THIS IF YOU HANDLE IT RIGHT

                          PLAY AT BET ISLANDS WE OVERPAY OUR CUSTOMERS (JUST ASK ASTROS)
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                          • DudleyDawson
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-10-12
                            • 5658

                            #293
                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                            Bush League was starting this thread. OP got what he deserved.
                            Got what he deserved? He took $1500 that wasn't his and was banned from a gambling forum....until he creates a new name...most of the losers posting on SBR would take $1500 in exchange for their posting privileges..
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                            • BEANTOWNJIM
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-12-05
                              • 4610

                              #294
                              I WOULD TAKE 200 DOLLARS AND NEVER POST AGAIN WHO GIVES A F-CK ABOUT POSTING AT SBR THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER FORUMS

                              I THINK ITS BUSH LEAGUE FOR A FORUM TO BAN A GUY BECAUSE OF BET ISLANDS
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                              • spankie
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-10-11
                                • 9992

                                #295
                                Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
                                I WOULD TAKE 200 DOLLARS AND NEVER POST AGAIN WHO GIVES A F-CK ABOUT POSTING AT SBR THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER FORUMS

                                I THINK ITS BUSH LEAGUE FOR A FORUM TO BAN A GUY BECAUSE OF BET ISLANDS


                                Beaner,

                                none of these guys have a clue.
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                                • DudleyDawson
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-10-12
                                  • 5658

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by spankie


                                  Beaner,

                                  none of these guys have a clue.
                                  We get it. You don't like Betislands. We've seen your posts for months now trashing them. Grow some balls, put down the crack pipe and get out of the house, kid.
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                                  • DudleyDawson
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-10-12
                                    • 5658

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
                                    SEE JON ITS ON IN HOW YOU HANDLE THIS MATTER IF YOU LAUGH IT OFF AND SAY HEY ASTROS GOT LUCKY YOU WILL ATTRACT MORE PLAYERS.

                                    LIKE I SAID JON I WASNT EVEN THINKING OF BET ISLANDS BUT SINCE I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS THREAD I FEEL GOOD ABOUT GOING BACK TO BET ISLANDS

                                    TAKE A NEGATIVE JON AND TURN IT INTO A POSITIVE YOUR GOING TO GET GOOD PUBLICITY OUT OF THIS IF YOU HANDLE IT RIGHT

                                    PLAY AT BET ISLANDS WE OVERPAY OUR CUSTOMERS (JUST ASK ASTROS)
                                    ....
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                                    • spankie
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-10-11
                                      • 9992

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                      We get it. You don't like Betislands. We've seen your posts for months now trashing them. Grow some balls, put down the crack pipe and get out of the house, kid.
                                      DudleyDickhole.

                                      I assure you I have a far more successful career and life than you do.

                                      Thanks for your concern you degenerate loser.
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                                      • kmarinouofm
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 8437

                                        #299
                                        jon is too busy pulling used condoms off his rooster to deal with this bullshit...


                                        Jon once had sex with a make a wish foundation member... needless to say.. not only can she now walk.. but she has made a full recovery...


                                        cheers jon...
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                                        • DudleyDawson
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-10-12
                                          • 5658

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by spankie
                                          DudleyDickhole.

                                          I assure you I have a far more successful career and life than you do.

                                          Thanks for your concern you degenerate loser.
                                          You still live in your Dad's house in Nebraska?

                                          You still have the drug issues?

                                          You're an angry kid who posts 24/7 on a gambling forum...I will bury you kid.
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                                          • Bill Dozer
                                            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                            • 07-12-05
                                            • 10894

                                            #301
                                            Sounds to me like BetIslands thought they had a good customer and they wanted to pay fast. Lots of books do things like that for their best players (BetJam was one of the best). Turns out they had a thief, hope he wasn't planning on playing online in the future.
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                                            • ngates815
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-01-09
                                              • 13845

                                              #302
                                              I'm still trying to figure out why SBR bans a guy that is a SBR pro for accepting a double payout? Is it really because the book that did the double payout is a SBR sponsor?

                                              Just like that Cory kid did his casino scam, Justin ruled in his favor when the book wasn't a sponsor, and then the kid strikes again and Justin rules against him?

                                              Is there favortism being shown here? SBR should of just deleted the thread and sent Astros a pm...for fukks sake they let non pros troll around and make ghosts all day, but have no problem banning SBR pros.

                                              That don't make no sense
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                                              • spankie
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-10-11
                                                • 9992

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                                Funny you call what you do a career. Stick to trolling Roxy...that's all you're good for here.
                                                I do have a career, actually. But why would I share that with a mindless retard such as yourself?

                                                This forum is not exactly the place you go to share your life stories.

                                                Fuking retard.
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                                                • DudleyDawson
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-10-12
                                                  • 5658

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by spankie
                                                  I do have a career, actually. But why would I share that with a mindless retard such as yourself?

                                                  This forum is not exactly the place you go to share your life stories.

                                                  Fuking retard.
                                                  Wow. Name calling on a gambling forum...easy to see you've got some self esteem issues, kid. Hopefully you find help. I guess if I were a hermit living in a dump in Nebraska with a drug problem...I'd have issues too...best of luck, pal.
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                                                  • paranoyd androyd
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-01-11
                                                    • 6459

                                                    #305
                                                    no idea why the terms 'stiff' and 'thief' have been getting thrown around here when neither are close to the truth in this case.

                                                    simple fact is this - the book screwed itself by having either poor staff and/or faulty internal procedures. the onus is clearly on the business here, not the customer. strong businesses don't point fingers at customers when business errors are made. rather, they look to resolve things internally and quietly.. learn and move on. taking responsibility for one's own mistakes is the most important message here. saying the customer 'stole' the money is patently false.

                                                    now, is it in good taste for the customer to broadcast and flaunt this mistake publicly? no. does BI sound like a good book? yes. but that doesn't change the above.
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                                                    • spankie
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-10-11
                                                      • 9992

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                                      Wow. Name calling on a gambling forum...easy to see you've got some self esteem issues, kid. Hopefully you find help. I guess if I were a hermit living in a dump in Nebraska with a drug problem...I'd have issues too...best of luck, pal.


                                                      Yeah, you've got me pegged.

                                                      Dudley where do you live? Is your state so much better that it actually transforms you into a normal person?

                                                      You're about as fuked up as anyone on here.
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                                                      • hels
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-12-09
                                                        • 8767

                                                        #307
                                                        What a debacle this thread has become.

                                                        Books don't give a shit about each individual player let's look at tactics books will use:

                                                        1) You're winning too much - they limit you.
                                                        2) You're winning way too much - they ban you.
                                                        3) You've won too much - they'll only allow you to withdraw small amounts each week. Case in point was an SBR poster this summer who had won over 100k in his account. The book limited him to withdrawing a whooping 2.5k/week (this would take over 2 years to withdraw). Hopefully someone knows what happened and if the guy went busto.
                                                        4) The book makes a mistake posting a wrong line - they'll just cancel your bet.
                                                        5) The book gives you something they shouldn't because they fukk up - they think they should get it back (only after 9 pages does little jon come along and say it doesn't matter anymore) - he says this because he can't get the money back so only trying to save face.

                                                        Books are like the government, they run the show and don't care about Joe Blow. Astros has probably lost over 15k to BI and they cry foul when they screw up and give him 1.5k.
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                                                        • HedgeHog
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-11-07
                                                          • 10128

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by DudleyDawson
                                                          Got what he deserved? He took $1500 that wasn't his and was banned from a gambling forum....until he creates a new name...most of the losers posting on SBR would take $1500 in exchange for their posting privileges..
                                                          I didn't mean to imply that was ALL he deserves, only that it was good start. Later he might find out Heritage won't accept him (hint--Jon should talk to Mike). The guy should be blacklisted and I'm glad SBR took the initial step. I agree with the SBR banning, fukk him.
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                                                          • baskets
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-24-11
                                                            • 11691

                                                            #309
                                                            u lost all credibility w/ your scam, HH

                                                            your main interest seems to be in how it will relate to future payouts for yourself rather than the issue at hand
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by baskets
                                                              u lost all credibility w/ your scam, HH

                                                              your main interest seems to be in how it will relate to future payouts for yourself rather than the issue at hand
                                                              Screw you too. You lost any remote credibilty when you backed the thief that started this thread. Stop trying to hijack this thread with my issue--it's been resolved favorably for both sides.
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                                                              • trytrytry
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-13-06
                                                                • 23650

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by Betislands
                                                                Thanks York but the answer is nothing , each account is treated different you send $1500 you get a nice bonus.

                                                                I do not think there is any bookmaker on earth that has never been stiffed or slow paid , I am not surprised this is just part of the business sometimes people see a quick payday and take it and never look back .. OP did that.

                                                                I do my best for clients and for the most part I think everyone walks away satisfied from Betislands , hey its part of the game.

                                                                Cheers!!

                                                                if a post up player sends you $1500 and then later in the week after you have the funds says omg I really wanted to send only $1300 please send the $200 back you have an easy mechanism to allow that correct, they dont need to do any rollovers, no hoops, no delay, u just send back the $200 and cover the fees?
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                                                                • baskets
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-24-11
                                                                  • 11691

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                                  Screw you too. You lost any remote credibilty when you backed the thief that started this thread. Stop trying to hijack this thread with my issue--it's been resolved favorably for both sides.
                                                                  nope, you lost all credibility w/ your willful scam.

                                                                  hels was right


                                                                  Books don't give a shit about each individual player let's look at tactics books will use:

                                                                  1) You're winning too much - they limit you.
                                                                  2) You're winning way too much - they ban you.
                                                                  3) You've won too much - they'll only allow you to withdraw small amounts each week. Case in point was an SBR poster this summer who had won over 100k in his account. The book limited him to withdrawing a whooping 2.5k/week (this would take over 2 years to withdraw). Hopefully someone knows what happened and if the guy went busto.
                                                                  4) The book makes a mistake posting a wrong line - they'll just cancel your bet.
                                                                  5) The book gives you something they shouldn't because they fukk up - they think they should get it back (only after 9 pages does little jon come along and say it doesn't matter anymore) - he says this because he can't get the money back so only trying to save face.

                                                                  Books are like the government, they run the show and don't care about Joe Blow. Astros has probably lost over 15k to BI and they cry foul when they screw up and give him 1.5k.



                                                                  in a sea of corruption BI is one of the few books that does shit right. I commend them for that.
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                                                                  • HedgeHog
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                                    • 10128

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by baskets
                                                                    nope, you lost all credibility w/ your willful scam.

                                                                    hels was right


                                                                    Books don't give a shit about each individual player let's look at tactics books will use:

                                                                    1) You're winning too much - they limit you.
                                                                    2) You're winning way too much - they ban you.
                                                                    3) You've won too much - they'll only allow you to withdraw small amounts each week. Case in point was an SBR poster this summer who had won over 100k in his account. The book limited him to withdrawing a whooping 2.5k/week (this would take over 2 years to withdraw). Hopefully someone knows what happened and if the guy went busto.
                                                                    4) The book makes a mistake posting a wrong line - they'll just cancel your bet.
                                                                    5) The book gives you something they shouldn't because they fukk up - they think they should get it back (only after 9 pages does little jon come along and say it doesn't matter anymore) - he says this because he can't get the money back so only trying to save face.

                                                                    Books are like the government, they run the show and don't care about Joe Blow. Astros has probably lost over 15k to BI and they cry foul when they screw up and give him 1.5k.



                                                                    in a sea of corruption BI is one of the few books that does shit right. I commend them for that.
                                                                    But you agree that it's ok to steal $1500 from them like the OP did. And you think my bonus issue with BI is the real scam? Here's the difference, moron: BI is holding my money while I complete my rollover (hardly a scam). Meanwhile, Astros has BI's $1500 with no rollover--unless you consider what he's doing on his jizz-stained comforter with their cash his roll-over. He's probably jerking off right now as he rolls around in their money.
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                                                                    • baskets
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-24-11
                                                                      • 11691

                                                                      #314
                                                                      rationalize it all you want.

                                                                      you ran a willful scam and b/c of BI and the public eye they are letting continue with it. but hey, do whatever you gotta do.


                                                                      but a guy who is scamming like you did (and in a similar way making a thread about it actually "complaining") .... that's pretty spineless.


                                                                      the cherry on top is where you come on here after your scam and talk about integrity...

                                                                      you either have some kind of balls.... or you don't realize how much full of shit you are.


                                                                      but to each their own.
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                                                                      • secretstash
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 03-29-10
                                                                        • 14907

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by baskets
                                                                        so many people full of shit here.

                                                                        mikeyanks or whatever his name is an idiot.

                                                                        love the fantasy bullshit you bitches are all smoking. Astros is right. all you fukking degen gamblers lobbying about doing "the right thing" in defense of books that would leave you to freeze outside and die of frostbite if you don't give them 5 cents to come inside...

                                                                        btw, I was given nearly 20k as a bank error and I gave it back.... but this is different.

                                                                        you think they're going to send a hitman his way for 1500 bucks.... that wouldn't even cover airfare and meals for the Costa Rican JJ hitman.... lmao

                                                                        bunch of fukkin teenagers trying to pass on the bullshit morality their mommy and poppies taught them


                                                                        don't get me wrong, I like Bet Islands.... they are a great book, and they make Heritage look like a joke when it comes to running shit right and not being slimy.... I love their business.... but Astros has the cash. end story
                                                                        basket.. im gonna reply to u because 1.. u are taking astros side in defense against most people's assurance that they would pay the money back.

                                                                        I realize what u are saying is probably accurate.. 50%+ of the people who said they would give it back might not fathom it if put in that situation.. but I am SURE that 90% of them also wouldnt come on here and brag/boast/and taunt betislands and look for a laugh from the forum on the whole matter.

                                                                        I like betislands and so beyond the fact that I wouldnt steal $1500 from someone I also wouldnt let $1500 come in between the relationship I feel that I have with a book or any potential books I might want to use and would be blacklisted from in the future.. so if he has no morals whatsoever and he has no seriously bad feeling about keeping the money then so be it.. but at least consider paying it back to save urself from basically being banned from most offshore betting forever.. they do definitely share info in this industry and u will surely be shared as the story will easily be displayed for all to see right here in the thread.. what a dumb move by OP to produce the evidence for all books to basically void his accounts OR choose not to pay him when he wins... ha.. karma might be fickle to mess with here

                                                                        just my opinions...

                                                                        -stash
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