Okay Guys Betislands Paid me By mistake and want me to pay them back.......

[wantitall4moi]

LMAO at all this shit now.

SI is a fukking BUSINESS you act like he stole off orphans or something.

The best ones are its 'only' 1500' yeah NO SHIT, its ONLY 1500 to a bookmaking BUSINESS too.

ANY business has a loss prevention department, or should, you dont think places that are in business lose hundreds and thousands of dollars worth of merchandise a year? of course they do, but in a LEGIT business or one with some capital that is all factored in. If 1500 means that much to SI they might want to reconsider being in business.

They have also taken it way too personally, but that tends to happen when these guys get screwed over because theyre the ones that are used to being in charge.

Seriously even though they havent commented on it much they probably shouldnt have commented on it at all.getting screwed is the price of doing business. if you cant afford to get screwed then you have to do something else. Thats the reality of it all now.

Doctors arent expensive because theyre good or can save your life (most just give out pills nowadays anyway) theyre expensive because they have to have insurance out the ass in case they screw up and get sued. So its all built in.

This kid didnt steal from jon or whomever, he got one over on a BUSINESS, end of story.

[Sam Odom]

SI is a fukking BUSINESS you act like he stole off orphans or something.

[in2thethickofit]

Dude, just keep the fukkin money if that's the kind of person you are, but change your avatar. Don't portray Bob like that, he would not keep it.

[Scooter]

GOOD JOB SCOOTER WELL EXPLAINED NOBODY IS GOING TO GO OUT AND SEND MONEY BACK ESPECIALLY 1500 BUCKS JON MIGHT GIVE YOU A FREE 200 DOLLAR PLAY FOR BEING HONEST

SORRY BOYS I'LL TAKE THE 1500 AND SAY GOODBYE TO THE SBR FORUM AND GO SIGN UP WITH EOG FORUM OR PEEPS PLACE THERE ARE A LOT OF FORUMS TO CHOOSE FROM

My point about the OP is the opposite.

The OP clearly stole from the sportsbook. This is theft.
Of course it should be returned.

[greenhippo]

if a post up player sends you $1500 and then later in the week after you have the funds says omg I really wanted to send only $1300 please send the $200 back you have an easy mechanism to allow that correct, they dont need to do any rollovers, no hoops, no delay, u just send back the $200 and cover the fees?

Don't expect anyone to be addressing this scenario. Try is again, too sharp for these parts.

[prop]

My point about the OP is the opposite.

The OP clearly stole from the sportsbook. This is theft.

I'm not sure it is clear. But first your statement "of course it should be returned" I agree; it should be. As far as clear theft.

Wikipedia

In common usage, theft is the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it."

Dictionary

1.
a : the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it
b : an unlawful taking (as by embezzlement or burglary) of property

2. obsolete : something stolen
3. a stolen base in baseball

This is more the case of someone taking advantage of someone else's mistake. It is far easier for someone to justify than straight theft. I agree, someone says man I f'ed up and you know I f'ed up please return it, returning it is the ethical move. However if he years later said man a sportsbook once double paid me, it was really neat and I never heard from them again.. do we say this is theft? Maybe we do, maybe we don't; some will, some won't. Really I'm not sure. I'm sure this is the reason a fair enough percentage are saying different. Quite a few who are cheering him on, probably would not be if the player made a thread saying I lost at B.I. and charged it back. Line is blurred to many people which resulted in the discussion taking place in this thread.

Right or wrong: I think the argument from the other side is taking advantage of a bookie's mistake is fair game. Obviously some agree, others do not, as shown here.

[prop]

Any Pai Gow poker players? Anyone count human error into the house advantage?

I don't think I'm exaggerating that 80% of the times the dealer sets the house hand wrong, and no player is losing due to the wrong setting, does anyone at the table correct it? When they do the hostility they are met with might make them think twice about doing so again.

Roulette payouts? When short it is usually pointed out. When over others at the table rarely spot it, and rarely do most players correct it.

Again, I don't care. I'd return it, I believe more than half of players would likely not. I'm not sure why matters a ton to most here.

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[sando]

So instead of being honest you took the money and ran?

Its your life you can do what you want but karma will get ya in the end.

Please he hasn't ripped off a charity, get off your high horse mate. They are a bookmaker and bookies are evil, everybody knows that... Fukc them, how rare it is to have the power over a book. Open a new account elsewhere, get your start up bonus and start gambling.

[princecharles]

Fascinating interpretations.
Mostly due to the ambiguity and lack of specific clarity in the words/vocabulary possessed by most people, and in fairness, within our culture.

People think in words. Our thoughts and positions on issues directly correlate with the breth of our ability to articulate.

Words like karma, stealing, theft, and phrases like 'do the right thing' are not hitting this particular nail on the head, but it's the best most have to mentally process this situation.

Aside from coming on here and foolishly boasting, I don't think the OP's actions were as atrocious as some state, as well as not quite a slam dunk of his finest moment either, as those cheering him on have inferred.

In other words, rarely do we enjoy the clarity and stark contrast of pure black and pure white. Life is lived in the gray tones 99% of the time, and this falls somewhere in there.

[govolz]

Ok look at it this way... Ur on BI and u deposit with a CC. U hit deposit nothing happens so u hit it again and it goes thru... But u look on ur CC statement and it went thru both times and u sent them 3000 instead of 1500... What if they said ha he messed up lets keep it... Dudes saying its right to keep it are pathetic. Lifetime losers say keep it bc they would look for money from a book in any way. How bout y'all losers do some studying on the games and win the 1500 from the book instead of saying its their mistake oh well

[unluckysob]

Someone will probably be fired for this----know a bank would---

[Mantle7]

You guys that are talking about doing the right thing are so full of $hit. You guys crack me up. So lets use a different scenario. If you were to walk up to a ATM and you found $1500 dollars in the drawere youre telling me youd just wait for the bank to open the next day and give it to the first teller? Riiiiight.

[Mantle7]

Fascinating interpretations.
Mostly due to the ambiguity and lack of specific clarity in the words/vocabulary possessed by most people, and in fairness, within our culture.

People think in words. Our thoughts and positions on issues directly correlate with the breth of our ability to articulate.

Words like karma, stealing, theft, and phrases like 'do the right thing' are not hitting this particular nail on the head, but it's the best most have to mentally process this situation.

Aside from coming on here and foolishly boasting, I don't think the OP's actions were as atrocious as some state, as well as not quite a slam dunk of his finest moment either, as those cheering him on have inferred.

In other words, rarely do we enjoy the clarity and stark contrast of pure black and pure white. Life is lived in the gray tones 99% of the time, and this falls somewhere in there.

Hey, this is a gambling forum not the fukkn Shakespeare Festival.

[Dux90]

Hey, this is a gambling forum not the fukkn Shakespeare Festival.

[TheMetsSuck]

basket.. im gonna reply to u because 1.. u are taking astros side in defense against most people's assurance that they would pay the money back.

I realize what u are saying is probably accurate.. 50%+ of the people who said they would give it back might not fathom it if put in that situation.. but I am SURE that 90% of them also wouldnt come on here and brag/boast/and taunt betislands and look for a laugh from the forum on the whole matter.

I like betislands and so beyond the fact that I wouldnt steal $1500 from someone I also wouldnt let $1500 come in between the relationship I feel that I have with a book or any potential books I might want to use and would be blacklisted from in the future.. so if he has no morals whatsoever and he has no seriously bad feeling about keeping the money then so be it.. but at least consider paying it back to save urself from basically being banned from most offshore betting forever.. they do definitely share info in this industry and u will surely be shared as the story will easily be displayed for all to see right here in the thread.. what a dumb move by OP to produce the evidence for all books to basically void his accounts OR choose not to pay him when he wins... ha.. karma might be fickle to mess with here

just my opinions...

-stash

stash once sent a guy to my house to rough me up because i wasn't paying his sbr point loan quick enough


I'd probably keep the money also if I didn't care about my future business with the book and i needed it bad enough at the time. These online books are comical with their scams. I won 10k on 5dimes last week after being a loyal customer for years who has done many payouts and gone through all the proofs of id and CC forms. I try and cash out 5k the next morning and I'm informed I have to resend in certification forms for the same card i have been using for years and had already jumped through hoops faxing/scanning the info in. Needless to say, i wasn't very happy with this obvious ploy to delay my cashout and hope i lose it back before i send in the forms (again). It worked....i lost a 3k parlay with the packers ml as the last leg in that hail mary debacle. Went on tilt and lost some more parlaying tennis faves later that night. Baseball tore my ahole the following night. Now I'm trying to rebuild with a few hundo. What a facking david hasselhoff 5dimes has become. They tell me i will have to do this every 3 months now? What the penetrate? Is this standard procedure on 5dimes now boys?

[cloverfield]

You guys that are talking about doing the right thing are so full of $hit. You guys crack me up. So lets use a different scenario. If you were to walk up to a ATM and you found $1500 dollars in the drawere youre telling me youd just wait for the bank to open the next day and give it to the first teller? Riiiiight.

Just because someone gambles doesn't mean they are a thief or dishonest.
I wouldn't have picked it up in the first place and just told them that it was an error.. why is that so hard to believe?

People return things they find all the time. How about the poor guy that found $30k in the back of a taxi and returned it? I guess since he doesn't post on SBR he is legit.


If your bank accidentally puts $100k in your account are you going to use it also?? Something tells me you'd be too afraid to goto prison to do it then.

[Living The Dream]

Fascinating interpretations.
Mostly due to the ambiguity and lack of specific clarity in the words/vocabulary possessed by most people, and in fairness, within our culture.

People think in words. Our thoughts and positions on issues directly correlate with the breth of our ability to articulate.

Words like karma, stealing, theft, and phrases like 'do the right thing' are not hitting this particular nail on the head, but it's the best most have to mentally process this situation.

Aside from coming on here and foolishly boasting, I don't think the OP's actions were as atrocious as some state, as well as not quite a slam dunk of his finest moment either, as those cheering him on have inferred.

In other words, rarely do we enjoy the clarity and stark contrast of pure black and pure white. Life is lived in the gray tones 99% of the time, and this falls somewhere in there.

Wow... It is possible to write with an accent

[truebluebear]

Haha - Books make mistakes like the rest of us , I've lost on more than one occasion through the years by ticking wrong box in Tote tickets etc , wouldn't dream of asking for refund because you get bog standard reply , "sorry bet's been struck and we can't change it " So enjoy your good fortune and look at it as a few bucks less they got to spend on their promotion drives to lure young innocents (lol- I use that term loosely ) into gambling for the rest of their lives haha see you're actually doing some good by keeping it so that takes care of the Karma angle . GL Mate have a beer and smile

[Jaug]

So much moral talk here. Book made mistake, they should offer him some kind of deal to get it back.

[Mantle7]

How many times have you heard a story about a book screwing someone over? You guys sound like he's stealing from the church or something. Books pull some shady $hit. I placed a $250 bet on the Lakers last season and it was apparently placed after tip off. I investigated it and no points had been scored by the time the wager was placed. They sent me an email saying the bet was no good because it was placed too late. You think for one second if the Lakers didn't cover they would have just given my money back? If someone started a thread about similar stories as mine I think some of you might have a change of heart.

[MonkeyF0cker]

lol. this is the problem w/ you white people in America and your love for ********. you are basing shit off of your love for idealism and being taught a set of principles that don't float in the real world.

when you make posts like that you are at odds with your conditioning... rather than contemplating the real world. if politicians thought like you did, there would not be one high level politician in the history of the world.... or businessman, etc, etc.

Like that's a bad thing? Unreal. How much would the world suck with a bunch of low-level politicians and businessmen with morality? LMAO.

Unreal.

when books set up their casino software they specifically rig it so you will lose. they are purposely trying to set you up so that you lose no matter what you do... then they happily invite you in with a smile on their faces and a warm handshake. according to your conditioning above, you should be railing against all books that have online casinos ... b/c they are trying to rob you blind and are being "unfair".

Uhh. No, they aren't, idiot.

Please learn basic random number generator algorithm and expected value logic or shut up.

[keyboarding]

Uhh. No, they aren't, idiot.

Please learn basic random number generator algorithm and expected value logic or shut up.

Actually, there was that one software that books were using that was proven to deal losing hands when bets were increased. It was replaced later.

[DudleyDawson]

Most of these off shore books are ran by criminals....who gives a fukk if he keeps it or not?

[yisman]

I'd probably keep it but I'm the closest thing to Landers on the board.

Thank you for confirming this.

[CollegePro]

did Jon even make a comment after 1st page?? I didn't read whole thing but it seems like Jon either wants money back and he will give him nice present for OP.. or he can just keep the money and he will not be able to play with them and most likely get blacklist... so why so much talk about this when Jon seems like he doesn't really care about it(sort of in a way i think)?? OP stated he will keep the money and end of story.. that just tell us what kind of person he is and I am sure he doesn't care what other sbr members think about him

[in2thethickofit]

The OP isn't even checking in anymore. He took the money - THREAD CLOSED!!!

[Hankwins]

If this story is true. Astro's already paid back his debt with the publicity of this thread, NUFF SAID!

[neverstoppers23]

You guys that are talking about doing the right thing are so full of $hit. You guys crack me up. So lets use a different scenario. If you were to walk up to a ATM and you found $1500 dollars in the drawere youre telling me youd just wait for the bank to open the next day and give it to the first teller? Riiiiight.

yes , yes i would. i got an extra 20 dollar bill from my bank atm, because they stuck together. was the week-end gave it back to them the next day. they would of never knew intill they counted the atm cash and withdrawls when they emptied it out days/weeks later.

[ncat12]

sounds to me as though the books need a website like ..lets say SBR to communicate with the deadbeats and help them out with getting there hard earn money back...LMAO....
also maybe you could get a 100% re-up bonus with NO rollover again I am LMAO

[sickler]

How many times have you heard a story about a book screwing someone over? You guys sound like he's stealing from the church or something. Books pull some shady $hit. I placed a $250 bet on the Lakers last season and it was apparently placed after tip off. I investigated it and no points had been scored by the time the wager was placed. They sent me an email saying the bet was no good because it was placed too late. You think for one second if the Lakers didn't cover they would have just given my money back? If someone started a thread about similar stories as mine I think some of you might have a change of heart.

The email was sent after the game was over? Not cool

[Grits n' Gravy]

All this for an extra $500?

[skrtelfan]

this thread is an instant classic

[crustyme]

if you suck at sportsbetting then keep it since you'll probably never win that much anyways.

but i would rather return it than be blacklisted since i have won way more than that.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

WHO'S GOING TO BLACKLIST YOU F-CK SBR IF YOU GAVE ME 1500 DOLLARS CASH

BET ISLANDS CANT TELL OTHER SPORTSBOOKS THIS KIDS NAME AND IF THEY DID IT WOULD BECOME MAJOR NEWS EVEN IF THE OTHER SPORTSBOOKS KNEW WHO THIS KID IS THEY ARENT GOING TO TURN DOWN HIS DEPOSIT BECAUSE OF A MISTAKE BET ISLANDS MADE THATS FOR SURE