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  • ssk13809
    SBR MVP
    • 08-25-10
    • 2595

    #1121
    Originally posted by dugdogg
    my book allows 10 pt teasers but a tie is a loss...those two games at +7 could tie (lose) for me
    Really? Tie = No Action for me. I'm at Bookmaker.
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    • Tree Rollins
      SBR MVP
      • 12-16-09
      • 3968

      #1122
      Originally posted by ssk13809
      Come on that was Week 1. Also they didn't prepare for Arian Foster like it was "Arian Foster". Their 2nd meeting they were much better prepared for that and did better. But I agree their run defense still sucks. But so does the run defense of the Jaguars and Texans, they also beat the Titans.
      Granted their is a possibility Titans may score and go off, but I still like the Colts. Manning is too good. And he will do what it takes to win.
      You can say it was week 1 and they weren't ready, but here we are 12 weeks later and they have given up over a 100 yards 3 weeks in a row to the likes of benjarvus green ellis, mike tolbert, and tashard choice.

      Still though, I'm on the Colts.
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      • ssk13809
        SBR MVP
        • 08-25-10
        • 2595

        #1123
        Originally posted by Tree Rollins
        You can say it was week 1 and they weren't ready, but here we are 12 weeks later and they have given up over a 100 yards 3 weeks in a row to the likes of benjarvus green ellis, mike tolbert, and tashard choice.

        Still though, I'm on the Colts. I will never in my life bet Rusty Smith over Peyton Manning.
        Isn't Collins starting?
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        • Tree Rollins
          SBR MVP
          • 12-16-09
          • 3968

          #1124
          Originally posted by ssk13809
          Isn't Collins starting?
          Yep. lol. I was just about to crash for the night when i remembered. I was getting back on to edit my post.

          Either way, I don't see Kerry getting it done.
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          • ssk13809
            SBR MVP
            • 08-25-10
            • 2595

            #1125
            Looks like the Colts line has stayed at -3 and hasn't moved. Clearly a Trap Game. No problems, my LOCK's overcome Trap games.
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            • dwang0725
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-23-10
              • 330

              #1126
              Originally posted by ssk13809
              Looks like the Colts line has stayed at -3 and hasn't moved. Clearly a Trap Game. No problems, my LOCK's overcome Trap games.

              If you look, the -3 spreads are all juiced up. They are clearly looking for Titans backers.
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              • ssk13809
                SBR MVP
                • 08-25-10
                • 2595

                #1127
                Originally posted by dwang0725
                If you look, the -3 spreads are all juiced up. They are clearly looking for Titans backers.
                Not necessarily

                Here is what one sharp on one of my teams said,
                If they wanted to get Titan backers they would move the line. Making it more juiced yet keeping it at -3 is creating an illusion for recreational bettors to take the Colts, it's only -3 after all. Furthermore, it's also giving the books a potential larger gain if the Colts don't win at all. And even if they win by 3, they make A LOT out of the juice.

                So really, the books are still begging for more to take the Colts, by keeping the line at -3, making it just "look" more attractive. And they have succeeded. Everyone is on the Colts.




                But once again, no worries

                SSK's LOCK vs. Las Vegas's TRAP



                The lock usually wins
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                • franklt
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 11-02-10
                  • 158

                  #1128
                  I agree: too many people on Colts!!
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                  • ssk13809
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-25-10
                    • 2595

                    #1129
                    Originally posted by franklt
                    I agree: too many people on Colts!!
                    A LOCK is a LOCK for a reason



                    Even if things go "wrong" in my LOCK, the team I bet on should still cover. So it has already accounted for the fact the Refs might be on the Titan's side, and the Titans might surprise a little and the Colts get unlucky here and there. EVEN with all of that, the Colts should STILL cover. That's why it is a LOCK.


                    So once again, not worried. Granted though if Bad Luck + Bad Calls (Vegas Affect) + Surprises all hit at the same time, my LOCK might be in trouble. But the odds of that? Too low. But I'm not perfect at LOCKs guys. I hit 90% on LOCKs long-term. I'm currently on a 13 game documented ATS LOCK win streak (and a little longer undocumented), so the streak has to end sooner or later.
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                    • Shafted69
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-04-08
                      • 6412

                      #1130
                      LOL! People are jumping off the Manning bandwagon. Not I says the Cat In The Hat.























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                      • ssk13809
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-25-10
                        • 2595

                        #1131
                        All I'll say is this


                        Siding against a big Las Vegas play is a bad idea. But siding against a SSK LOCK is a even worse idea. Ask BetterBizzness about that.


                        Though if you're really worried, just don't make a play.
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                        • Surtainly
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 09-29-10
                          • 39

                          #1132
                          a loss here would bring your LOCK's under 90% for the year. It seems like you and your LOCK team may have jumped the gun here a little bit.
                          an ssk LOCK "usually" wins vs a Vegas TRAP? c'mon ssk, let's see a little more confidence.

                          I like the Colts... but if this play loses and you go under 90%, I expect to see a remodeling of the LOCK team. They don't deserve to keep their jobs if they approved a faulty LOCK knowing what's on the line.
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                          • Surtainly
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 09-29-10
                            • 39

                            #1133
                            wow, ssk stating that if you're really worried, don't make a play! This play sounds like it shouldn't have even been presented to the LOCK team, let alone pass inspection!!!!
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                            • Maxlock
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-09-10
                              • 397

                              #1134
                              Originally posted by ssk13809
                              A LOCK is a LOCK for a reason



                              Even if things go "wrong" in my LOCK, the team I bet on should still cover. So it has already accounted for the fact the Refs might be on the Titan's side, and the Titans might surprise a little and the Colts get unlucky here and there. EVEN with all of that, the Colts should STILL cover. That's why it is a LOCK.


                              So once again, not worried. Granted though if Bad Luck + Bad Calls (Vegas Affect) + Surprises all hit at the same time, my LOCK might be in trouble. But the odds of that? Too low. But I'm not perfect at LOCKs guys. I hit 90% on LOCKs long-term. I'm currently on a 13 game documented ATS LOCK win streak (and a little longer undocumented), so the streak has to end sooner or later.
                              You sound like Brett Favre. "If things don't go the way we want them I can blame it on my injuries and play calling." If you pick a game stick with your guns instead of looking for excuses and blaming it on bad luck like you did last week after the Colts lost.

                              Anyways, we're both on the Colts tonight. Bol.
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                              • ssk13809
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-25-10
                                • 2595

                                #1135
                                Originally posted by Surtainly
                                a loss here would bring your LOCK's under 90% for the year. It seems like you and your LOCK team may have jumped the gun here a little bit.
                                an ssk LOCK "usually" wins vs a Vegas TRAP? c'mon ssk, let's see a little more confidence.

                                I like the Colts... but if this play loses and you go under 90%, I expect to see a remodeling of the LOCK team. They don't deserve to keep their jobs if they approved a faulty LOCK knowing what's on the line.
                                lol? Even if I drop to 6-1, and fall under 90%, that's still nothing extraordinary. According to probability, just because you hit 90% of something, doesn't mean your overall % will always be over 90%. As a simple example, 50% to get a Heads, if you get a Tails 2/3 flips, doesn't mean that something is wrong with your coin since you aren't getting 50% heads and you should declare your coin unfair.

                                And I said "usually", because the fact is a LOCK in general "usually" wins at all. 90% long-term to be more exact. That's "usually", not "always".
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                                • ssk13809
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-25-10
                                  • 2595

                                  #1136
                                  Originally posted by Maxlock
                                  You sound like Brett Favre. "If things don't go the way we want them I can blame it on my injuries and play calling." If you pick a game stick with your guns instead of looking for excuses and blaming it on bad luck like you did last week after the Colts lost.

                                  Anyways, we're both on the Colts tonight. Bol.
                                  As I say every week to people wishing me "luck" on my LOCKs


                                  My LOCKs don't need luck. Even with bad luck they should cover.
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                                  • ssk13809
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-25-10
                                    • 2595

                                    #1137
                                    Let's just see if Vegas keeps it interesting.


                                    Last week my LOCKs Rams, and Patriots, they were both easy covers. Too easy. Let's see if the "Vegas affect" can at least keep my LOCK at the edge of its seat.
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                                    • BetterBizness
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-20-06
                                      • 5737

                                      #1138
                                      I won 50 points in SBR Trivia I want to give to you SSK... are we still on?
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                                      • ssk13809
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-25-10
                                        • 2595

                                        #1139
                                        Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                        I won 50 points in SBR Trivia I want to give to you SSK... are we still on?
                                        Of course. Anytime you want to give me free points betting against my LOCK, we are on. You don't even have to wait for me to accept. If I declare it a LOCK, just post the bet and we are on. Like I said, I like receiving free points. Granted it's not quite my LOCK (-2.5), but -3 is good enough. Worst I can do is push.



                                        Colts -3
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                                        • The J-Dizzle
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 1091

                                          #1140
                                          The worst you can do is lose.

                                          Trust me I was on Flyers yesterday
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                                          • BetterBizness
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-20-06
                                            • 5737

                                            #1141
                                            Originally posted by ssk13809
                                            Of course. Anytime you want to give me free points betting against my LOCK, we are on. You don't even have to wait for me to accept. If I declare it a LOCK, just post the bet and we are on. Like I said, I like receiving free points. Granted it's not quite my LOCK (-2.5), but -3 is good enough. Worst I can do is push.



                                            Colts -3
                                            Fair nuff...

                                            I'm just trying to sort out your status on this game... You use the term LOCK way to much in all these degrees.. .

                                            I'll just ask the simple question... simple answer appreciated...

                                            Is this game a LOCK... Y/N?
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                                            • ssk13809
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-25-10
                                              • 2595

                                              #1142
                                              Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                              Fair nuff...

                                              I'm just trying to sort out your status on this game... You use the term LOCK way to much in all these degrees.. .

                                              I'll just ask the simple question... simple answer appreciated...

                                              Is this game a LOCK... Y/N?
                                              Are you kidding me?



                                              Colts -2.5 is a lock. As I've said about 100 times now. I already posted it got approval from my LOCK team as well.

                                              Read any of my posts
                                              Originally posted by ssk13809
                                              Colts -2.5 (LOCK)
                                              Risk 11 to Win 10
                                              It's a LOCK approved by my LOCK team. And I only call LOCK games a LOCK. So I don't see how I say LOCK too much.
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                                              • BetterBizness
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-20-06
                                                • 5737

                                                #1143
                                                Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                Are you kidding me?



                                                Colts -2.5 is a lock. As I've said about 100 times now. I already posted it got approval from my LOCK team as well.

                                                Read any of my posts


                                                It's a LOCK approved by my LOCK team. And I only call LOCK games a LOCK. So I don't see how I say LOCK too much.
                                                I guess that's as simple as its going to get...

                                                Fair enough... 2.5 is a lock...
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                                                • ssk13809
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-25-10
                                                  • 2595

                                                  #1144
                                                  Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                                  I guess that's as simple as its going to get...

                                                  Fair enough... 2.5 is a lock...
                                                  And our bet is -3. Hey at least you're not betting directly against my LOCK. You're improving.
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                                                  • dugdogg
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-10-10
                                                    • 2708

                                                    #1145
                                                    COLTS -3 is a CAPS LOCK!!!!!
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                                                    • ssk13809
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-25-10
                                                      • 2595

                                                      #1146
                                                      Game time


                                                      I'm in Tennessee, but watching this one from up above
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                                                      • Full Time Hobo
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-16-10
                                                        • 2778

                                                        #1147
                                                        Colts tearing it up.
                                                        Good call so far.
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                                                        • ChileCheese
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-07-09
                                                          • 1957

                                                          #1148
                                                          your coin flipping analogy is way off base. Stats isnt your strong suit.
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                                                          • ssk13809
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-25-10
                                                            • 2595

                                                            #1149
                                                            Originally posted by ChileCheese
                                                            your coin flipping analogy is way off base. Stats isnt your strong suit.
                                                            No its not. You probably read it wrong. The point was just because you hit an expected rate of ___%, doesn't mean if you are below that expected rate (with a small sample size) something is wrong.
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                                                            • ssk13809
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-25-10
                                                              • 2595

                                                              #1150
                                                              Originally posted by Full Time Hobo
                                                              Colts tearing it up.
                                                              Good call so far.
                                                              Still a long way to go

                                                              Though

                                                              Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                              Let's just see if Vegas keeps it interesting.


                                                              Last week my LOCKs Rams, and Patriots, they were both easy covers. Too easy. Let's see if the "Vegas affect" can at least keep my LOCK at the edge of its seat.
                                                              This looks like the NYJ vs. NE game so far.
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                                                              • Full Time Hobo
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-16-10
                                                                • 2778

                                                                #1151
                                                                Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                                lol? Even if I drop to 6-1, and fall under 90%, that's still nothing extraordinary. According to probability, just because you hit 90% of something, doesn't mean your overall % will always be over 90%. As a simple example, 50% to get a Heads, if you get a Tails 2/3 flips, doesn't mean that something is wrong with your coin since you aren't getting 50% heads and you should declare your coin unfair.

                                                                And I said "usually", because the fact is a LOCK in general "usually" wins at all. 90% long-term to be more exact. That's "usually", not "always".

                                                                Not 100% sure what your trying to say.. but no matter how many times you flip a fair coin the probability of it being heads the next time you flip it is still ~50%. Not taking into account the slight chance of it landing on its side. Law of averages says that if you flip a coin 100 times about 50 - 50 it should be heads and tails.
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                                                                • BetterBizness
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 05-20-06
                                                                  • 5737

                                                                  #1152
                                                                  Ez game yet again.. here you go @ the half...
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                                                                  • ssk13809
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-25-10
                                                                    • 2595

                                                                    #1153
                                                                    Originally posted by Full Time Hobo
                                                                    Not 100% sure what your trying to say.. but no matter how many times you flip a fair coin the probability of it being heads the next time you flip it is still ~50%. Not taking into account the slight chance of it landing on its side. Law of averages says that if you flip a coin 100 times about 50 - 50 it should be heads and tails.
                                                                    That's what I'm saying.


                                                                    Some guy said if I don't hit my next lock, I will fall below 90% lock rate, therefore my LOCK team has some problems since I'm not hitting 90%. I said, that's the equivalent of saying if you flip a coin 3 times, and get heads once, you conclude your coin is unfair or not a coin where Heads comes up 50%.

                                                                    In both cases, the conclusions are incorrect. Mainly due to sample size.
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                                                                    • Surtainly
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 09-29-10
                                                                      • 39

                                                                      #1154
                                                                      Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                                      That's what I'm saying. Some guy said if I don't hit my next lock, I will fall below 90% lock rate, therefore my LOCK team has some problems since I'm not hitting 90%. I said, that's the equivalent of saying if you flip a coin 3 times, and get heads once, you conclude your coin is unfair or not a coin where Heads comes up 50%. In both cases, the conclusions are incorrect. Mainly due to sample size.
                                                                      I was being sarcastic... joking around. I figured that's what this entire thread was all about.
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                                                                      • ssk13809
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-25-10
                                                                        • 2595

                                                                        #1155
                                                                        Originally posted by BetterBizness
                                                                        Ez game yet again.. here you go @ the half...


                                                                        Thanks again for the 50 points. This time you didn't even last a half. In case you didn't know, my LOCKS are generally easy covers.



                                                                        I was really hoping with all this "Vegas" talk my LOCK would actually have to sweat. But no. Same old story.



                                                                        Nonetheless, I'm not counting Vegas out. The game is far from over, let's see if the Titans can at least put some pressure on my LOCK.
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