I don't think the Bears/Giants Game is a Trap

[artist]

How do you think the Giants will defend the Bears???

I really don't care how they defend the bears dude you acting like bears have a very good offense! How is bears gonna stop the refs???? You know what put your money on Chicago +4.5 GL to y'all aight now go on espn click sports and go to the NFL hahah now look what's on the main page! I'm loving it remember Dallas last week? Same thing with the giants coach hahah

[big0mar]

I really don't care how they defend the bears dude you acting like bears have a very good offense! How is bears gonna stop the refs???? You know what put your money on Chicago +4.5 GL to y'all aight now go on espn click sports and go to the NFL hahah now look what's on the main page! I'm loving it remember Dallas last week? Same thing with the giants coach hahah

No, its the complete opposite than Texans. Texans were an overrated team that, if you actually watched their games, can't defend the pass to save their life. Great matchup for the Cowboys.

You are correct though, you don't really care how they defend the Bears. Because they can't. The ******* Panthers were able to move the ball on the Giants sorry secondary.

No need to wish me GL either, I actually understand how the game works.

[borednaz]

I really do think the giants are the play here. It all looks horrible on paper, so did the cowgirls. I do however think there is better value out there so I'm not playing this game unless LB, NoCoin, or GMilk convince me otherwise on the threads.

[artist]

No, its the complete opposite than Texans. Texans were an overrated team that, if you actually watched their games, can't defend the pass to save their life. Great matchup for the Cowboys.

You are correct though, you don't really care how they defend the Bears. Because they can't. The ******* Panthers were able to move the ball on the Giants sorry secondary.

No need to wish me GL either, I actually understand how the game works.

The problem is you need support I been capping for years now sometime I overthink sometime I get headache but the money been good the support in here is alright haha but yo
It's koo bro go against Vegas if your here needing support that the bears will win then I will support you haha bear should win right but giants is a must win! Big different they at home playing with more passion and heart I say giants win more than 4 hahah but GL to y'all! I'm done Vegas let's get this money!!!! Hahahaha

[big0mar]

The problem is you need support I been capping for years now sometime I overthink sometime I get headache but the money been good the support in here is alright haha but yo It's koo bro go against Vegas if your here needing support that the bears will win then I will support you haha bear should win right but giants is a must win! Big different they at home playing with more passion and heart I say giants win more than 4 hahah but GL to y'all! I'm done Vegas let's get this money!!!! Hahahaha

Again, what do you specifically think the Giants will do defensively to stop the Bears? Do you even know the right approach to stop the Bears? Could you differentiate between a 3-technique and a 5-technique defensive lineman?

Do you actually understand anything about the game of football other than what you read on ESPN?

[big0mar]

I really do think the giants are the play here. It all looks horrible on paper, so did the cowgirls. I do however think there is better value out there so I'm not playing this game unless LB, NoCoin, or GMilk convince me otherwise on the threads.

How did the Cowboys look horrible on paper? Was it the worst pass defense in the NFL they were going against?

[artist]

Again, what do you specifically think the Giants will do defensively to stop the Bears? Do you even know the right approach to stop the Bears? Could you differentiate between a 3-technique and a 5-technique defensive lineman?

Do you actually understand anything about the game of football other than what you read on ESPN?

I know to much about football betting that Chicago is a big red flag I know that greenbay should win but 17 flags now haha what happen if they wasn't to get those would Chicago win? They can't even convert a 3-1 and 4-1 hahaha like I said you can tell me all these stats that Chicago look very good against giants and well you put money on Chicago and giants win it will mess with your head... That's went you join the betting world and see how things work but yea gl bro on Chicago

[pavyracer]

I don't know I watched both Colts/Giants and Giants/Titans games in their entirety. The Giants do not have the personnel on offense to outscore the Bears by more than 4 points. They may win the game with a last second FG or get the lead with 3 points and hold on to it until the end with their bare teeth. But Bradshaw and Hakeem are not the difference makers in the offense to give a big lead to the Giants. Cutler will get his plays to his receivers and will keep the game close. Giants -4 is the biggest square and public bet on the board. The public is betting on the jerseys of NY to win the game but jerseys don't play football games. Humans do.

[d2bets]

I know to much about football betting that Chicago is a big red flag I know that greenbay should win but 17 flags now haha what happen if they wasn't to get those would Chicago win? They can't even convert a 3-1 and 4-1 hahaha like I said you can tell me all these stats that Chicago look very good against giants and well you put money on Chicago and giants win it will mess with your head... That's went you join the betting world and see how things work but yea gl bro on Chicago

Do you think those flags were just random? Go look at that tape and tell me that at least 10 of those penalties were not forced by Julius Peppers destroying his man time and and again and GB taking penalties to avoid sacks and turnovers.

[big0mar]

I know to much about football betting that Chicago is a big red flag I know that greenbay should win but 17 flags now haha what happen if they wasn't to get those would Chicago win? They can't even convert a 3-1 and 4-1 hahaha like I said you can tell me all these stats that Chicago look very good against giants and well you put money on Chicago and giants win it will mess with your head... That's went you join the betting world and see how things work but yea gl bro on Chicago

I didn't tell you any stats. I said that the Giants have one of, if not the, worse secondaries and LBs in the NFL.

In regards to the penalties, why did those happen? Are you suggesting that the GB offensive lineman held because they thought it would look cool?

[big0mar]

I don't know I watched both Colts/Giants and Giants/Titans games in their entirety. The Giants do not have the personnel on offense to outscore the Bears by more than 4 points. They may win the game with a last second FG or get the lead with 3 points and hold on to it until the end with their bare teeth. But Bradshaw and Hakeem are not the difference makers in the offense to give a big lead to the Giants. Cutler will get his plays to his receivers and will keep the game close. Giants -4 is the biggest square and public bet on the board. The public is betting on the jerseys of NY to win the game but jerseys don't play football games. Humans do.

Bradshaw is in for a tough night, because that Chicago front-7 wont give up anything on the ground. If the Giants win the game, its going to require a great performance from Eli.

[blackbart]

bears power rating is now slightly less than the giants, add in home field and you have the spread. no traps just facts. it opened -3 -125 quickly moved to -4 and has sat there. if you all think the bears should be rated higher than the giants take a gamble. but this is a very bad spot for the bears.

[pavyracer]

Bradshaw is in for a tough night, because that Chicago front-7 wont give up anything on the ground. If the Giants win the game, its going to require a great performance from Eli.

The key in this game is Julius Peppers. If the Bears defense employ the same tactics Panthers employed last year when they embarrasssed Giants at home Eli will turn the ball over with his depleted receiving core. And Urlacher will keep Bradshaw at bay. The Bears have kept Best (Lions), Barber (Cowboys) and Jackson (Packers) to less than 30 yards rushing. So the Bears shut Bradshaw and blitz the hell out of Eli and he turns the ball over a few times. People do not realize that is the Bears defense that is winning their games.

[d2bets]

The key in this game is Julius Peppers. If the Bears defense employ the same tactics Panthers employed last year when they embarrasssed Giants at home Eli will turn the ball over with his depleted receiving core. And Urlacher will keep Bradshaw at bay. The Bears have kept Best (Lions), Barber (Cowboys) and Jackson (Packers) to less than 30 yards rushing. So the Bears shut Bradshaw and blitz the hell out of Eli and he turns the ball over a few times. People do not realize that is the Bears defense that is winning their games.

Peppers is much better and more motivated this season. It's funny how it hasn't necessarily translated on the stat sheet, but if you watch the games his effect is pretty obvious. Still, the pass rush has been good but not great. Tommie Harris seemed like he had rebounded in offseason and training camp, and was healthy. He still seems healthy but just did not play well the first couple games so they benched him to send him a message. He's never going to be guy he was in '06 but if he can even be 80% of that, he could make the D-Line effectiveness go from just good to great. And then with Urlacher and Briggs backing that up, it's a scary defense.

[ptall]

Da bears

[BetterBizness]

Forget all of that stuff, there is no trap or conspiracy. This is a road game for the Bears coming off a huge win vs the team that was going to the Superbowl in their division. The Bears are not as good as their record and Cutler will find his favorite thing in the entire world (the pick) very shortly. This is a situational play on the Giants here, nothing else. The eyes say take the Bears of course it does you cannot make an argument for the Giants on paper right now. They have sucked ass for sure and the Bears haven't played bad so far. This line opened ay -3 and immediately went to -4, and there isn't a square on earth taking the Giants here so you do the math on the line move. The Giants might lose by 10 no doubt about it, but this spot is set up for the Giants to play well and the Bears to fade a bit, humans play the game XBOX does not. That is my 2 cents and that is the way it is. It doesn't mean anything other than those facts. There is no guarantee or lock here just like in any other game.

I love this post...

All this blah blah blah on Peppers, Cutler, Urlacher... Such Square Opinions... Not that squares never win... I am one.. I know...

On any given day, the talent level is so close, 2 of the big things I am looking at are motivation (NYG Lots)... (Chi ... Sure but not so much)... and Home team... If I've learned ANYthing in 3 years on SBR its that...

NYG are clearly the play here.. and just for anger mgmt, they score TD in OT to piss off all the Bears backers...

[pavyracer]

You got to love the people who bet saying that the Giants may lose by 10 but the line of -4 Giants is the right play.

[kmarinouofm]

For those of you that think the Bears have value, consider that if this game was played two weeks ago, the line would have been Giants -6.

Instead, the Giants lose two non-conference games and everyone thinks the Bears are suddenly world beaters and this line gets skewed. Don't believe the hype!

The Giants are the better team and they have all the value at -4 at home.

LT is 100% on here boys .. Giants -3.5 if you can get it is the play.. Everyone is hot to trot now with the bears and the Giants look like Poo

[815Sox]

cuntler is playing great

He looked terrible against GB

[d2bets]

I love this post...

All this blah blah blah on Peppers, Cutler, Urlacher... Such Square Opinions... Not that squares never win... I am one.. I know...

On any given day, the talent level is so close, 2 of the big things I am looking at are motivation (NYG Lots)... (Chi ... Sure but not so much)... and Home team... If I've learned ANYthing in 3 years on SBR its that...

NYG are clearly the play here.. and just for anger mgmt, they score TD in OT to piss off all the Bears backers...

So if you're a square and you say NYG are clearly the right play here, then Chicago is the sharp play then. Thanks.

[big joe 1212]

Giants have a lot of internal bickering going on right now. Good time to fade them!

[VegasRandy]

I got the NY G -3.5 at The Greek when it came out. The analysis is simple:

The Bears are cruising at 3-0 coming off a huge division win vs the hated Packers.

The NY G on the other hand are at Battle Stations at 1-2 needing win.

The NY G are not as bad as people are making them out to be. Vs Tenn the Giants destroyed them yardage wise but -3 TO did them in.

The Bears have lucky wins over the Lions and Packers and now everyone thinks Superbowl. No.

The NY G need this win and they'll get it.

[Extra Innings]

What? Are you a Hunter? Traps don't exist in sportsbetting outside placing the bet itself

[d2bets]

I got the NY G -3.5 at The Greek when it came out. The analysis is simple:

The Bears are cruising at 3-0 coming off a huge division win vs the hated Packers.

The NY G on the other hand are at Battle Stations at 1-2 needing win.

The NY G are not as bad as people are making them out to be. Vs Tenn the Giants destroyed them yardage wise but -3 TO did them in.

The Bears have lucky wins over the Lions and Packers and now everyone thinks Superbowl. No.

The NY G need this win and they'll get it.

So the NYG were unlucky because they destroyed Tenn in yardage but lost. But the Bears were lucky to win when they destroyed Detroit 463-168 in yardage? Interesting. This is why the Bears are such a good play. Everyone thinks they're just lucky. And the Giants are just due. So lay whatever. Giants have a coach that's lost his team and are riddled with injuries. Plus they're just not that good. Meanwhile, before you know it they'll be 1-7 and I'll be richer by fading them.

[VegasRandy]

So the NYG were unlucky because they destroyed Tenn in yardage but lost. But the Bears were lucky to win when they destroyed Detroit 463-168 in yardage? Interesting. This is why the Bears are such a good play. Everyone thinks they're just lucky. And the Giants are just due. So lay whatever. Giants have a coach that's lost his team and are riddled with injuries. Plus they're just not that good. Meanwhile, before you know it they'll be 1-7 and I'll be richer by fading them.

If you have a stategy of fading the NY G then good luck. The NY G need this win and I think the more motivated team has the more likely chance of winning. I'm very concerned about the 1/2 point for sure.

FYI on the Lions game. Detroit lost Stafford and Best for the entire second half.

[HauntingTheHoly]

The public is betting on the jerseys of NY to win the game but jerseys don't play football games. Humans do.

I'm seeing 71% of the public on the Bears, not Giants.

http://www.thespread.com/nfl-football-public-betting-chart

[artist]

For all the pros betting in nyg I'm with you!!! The coach need to win or his job might just be gone! The motivation is where that paper don't tell you and let me know who's smarter than Vegas? Chicago 3-0 why aren't they the favor? The public jump on this! Hahaha it will be a heart breaker if Chicago lose for all their backer haha but like I said it's either nyg or no play! They're to Many good line to bet on but Bol to whoever my lean who be giants and will more than 7 but we will see. Oh yea pavy I know you I respect your capping skills but remember the refs play this game also hahaha and to me every play is a holding play it's either they call it or not it's up to the ref

[slacker00]

The Giants are in a tailspin with their heads squarely up their ass so far this year. I still think this Giants team is talented enough to turn this season around, there just doesn't seem to be any indication that they are committed to doing so. The reason why I'm taking the Bears +4 is because even if the Giants bring their A+ game on Sunday night, I think the Bears can still beat them. If the Giants play like they've been playing so far this year, this thing will get ugly very quickly. The bottom line is that this Bears team is much better than anyone seems to be giving them credit for, this team is much better than their Super Bowl team from a few years ago, IMHO.

[tiekush]

chi / nyg

got chi -4 what u think

[slacker00]

chi / nyg

got chi -4 what u think

I like it. I haven't been playing around with alternative lines too much this year, but this looks like a great spot to mess around with it. Either the Giants show up or they don't. I love getting the +350 or whatever taking that alternative line if it hits.

[big0mar]

What is exactly all this talent the Giants have??? Probably the slowest back-7 in the league.

[Lockitup1x]

good luck with your play bud

[hubie69]

Just my .02 cents on this. The Giants couldn't run the ball on the colts. That's sad. If the Giant's cant run the ball against the bears (I don't think they'll be able to) then Eli is going to be in for a LONG day. The colts D is not great, certainly not as good as the Bears D (I'm no bears fanboy, I greatly dislike them). I do really think if the giants can't run the ball the bears are going to run away with this one. I'm on the bears +4 right now and will probably sprinkle money line too.

Lastly, Don't base your betting on what the "public" is doing. Do your own research and make your own conclusions. RLM and "sharp" money is fine and dandy, but don't go the other way simple because the public likes the pick.

[hubie69]

I mean for goodness sakes people, do your own research and make an INFORMED decision on what to place your hard earned money on.

[Smoke]

Even though the giants look like shit,

Anyone that thinks the bears are gonna go 4-0 need to check themselves into a mental institution