I don't think the Bears/Giants Game is a Trap

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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82666

    #71
    The scariest part for me is that the Giants defense made Vince Young look very good a week after the Steelers shut him out completely. Now Cutler is not going to be rattled and is more of a passing threat than Young. I just can't see how the Giants defense will keep the Bears from scoring in the 20's and how can Giants offense score in the 20's when they scored in the 10's in their last 2 games.
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    • Rio DiNero
      SBR MVP
      • 11-03-08
      • 2010

      #72
      NYG are 4-10 straight up in thier last 14 games.
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      • jcadwell
        SBR Sharp
        • 07-05-10
        • 475

        #73
        you might as well just stay away from this game... if you have to think about it this much and analyze it this much that obviously means that it could go either way.. so avoid losing any $$$ and avoid the game!
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        • ismax
          SBR Rookie
          • 09-30-10
          • 6

          #74
          it does look , like a trap game,,,i must be a sucker, cause im taking the bears,,
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          • Lockitup1x
            SBR MVP
            • 09-21-09
            • 1010

            #75
            A lot of people think this line is a trap… I don’t know.

            Regardless, consider the following…

            This game is going to come down to which QB has a better game and which offense is more balanced. I’ll take Eli and the Giants at home over Cutler and the Bears on the road. The Giants have a coaching and motivation edge. On top of that the Giants will be more rested / better prepared (longer week / no travel) and have home field advantage.

            The Bears may stubbornly overuse their inept rushing attack, with mediocre success against the Giants. But let’s face it, Cutler will have many opportunities to throw picks, fumble and find ways to come up short in the red zone.

            The Giants on the other hand, just have to have average success running the ball, avoid making the silly mistakes that have been costing them, and let Eli work on a defense that has allowed over 800 passing yards in 3 games.
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            • richyrich8478
              SBR Sharp
              • 05-08-10
              • 296

              #76
              don't think its a trap either....bears are not very good and cutler isn't going to keep getting lucky... he should have 9 picks right now... bears are going to win by ten. they are trying to make it look like a trap and the fact that they beat the packers, is going to make the amateurs bet on chicage... go giants in this game
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              • makemerich
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-19-10
                • 392

                #77
                I take giants w no hessitation
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                • yahoonino
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-10-07
                  • 2651

                  #78
                  Originally posted by dynamite140
                  Normally i see this is a trap game with Giants laying 4 points at home and playing horrible against the Bears. Most people would quickly jump on the Bears quicking getting 4 points whereas other more experienced players will take the Giants -4. If i had to choose, i normally take the Giants here. However, there are a few things that are a bit concerning. The line has went from -3 to -4 and most people would take the Bears because they are undefeated.

                  But there were 2 situations last year that were very similar. It was the Denver Broncos who were I think... 4-0 playing against the Chargers who were 2-2 and Chargers laying 3 points with -125 juice. I think many people said Denver was a fraud and that Chargers would beat them easily even though Broncos were undefeated. However, most normal joes would take broncos with their undefeated record and getting points. I mean it looked too easy to take Denver because of their record and chargers were not doing so well and had to lay points. What happened? Denver won by 9 i think.

                  Then later that season, the Chargers were red hot. I think they won 8 games in a row or something like that and went to Dallas and Dallas was struggling. Not sure their record but they were 2 or 3 games worst than the Chargers in the win column. The easy play looked to be the Chargers +3 since they were much superior than the cowboys and were on a huge winning streak. It looked very easy to take them. But other fade the public players took the Cowboys -3 (-125) juice i recalled. What happened? Chargers won the game in the late 3rd or early 4th quarter. I think they won by at least 10 in that game.

                  This game is a really tough call. It looks like a trap, but i do know in the NFL, more sucker bets lose than win though NOT BY MUCH. Otherwise everyone can win money just by fading the sucker bet. However, this game really looks like a trap to get you to bite on the Giants as oppose to the Bears. Anyone else feel the same?
                  i dont think this line is a trap,,,the number is just right,,,,giant-4 this is a tough call no play for me
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                  • kmarinouofm
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-26-09
                    • 8437

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Smoke
                    Even though the giants look like shit,

                    Anyone that thinks the bears are gonna go 4-0 need to check themselves into a mental institution
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                    • kmarinouofm
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 8437

                      #80
                      i also think this is a good game to tease..

                      I love giants +3 & maybe cardinals +16 in a teaser.. what do you think guys??
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82666

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Lockitup1x
                        A lot of people think this line is a trap… I don’t know.

                        Regardless, consider the following…

                        This game is going to come down to which QB has a better game and which offense is more balanced. I’ll take Eli and the Giants at home over Cutler and the Bears on the road. The Giants have a coaching and motivation edge. On top of that the Giants will be more rested / better prepared (longer week / no travel) and have home field advantage.

                        The Bears may stubbornly overuse their inept rushing attack, with mediocre success against the Giants. But let’s face it, Cutler will have many opportunities to throw picks, fumble and find ways to come up short in the red zone.

                        The Giants on the other hand, just have to have average success running the ball, avoid making the silly mistakes that have been costing them, and let Eli work on a defense that has allowed over 800 passing yards in 3 games.
                        So you are saying that Eli who had 2 picks on last game vs Titans will have a better game than Cutler who had 1 pick last week vs Packers and is facing a team that didn't record a pick vs Titans.
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                        • chaseman
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-06-09
                          • 1195

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Smoke
                          Even though the giants look like shit,

                          Anyone that thinks the bears are gonna go 4-0 need to check themselves into a mental institution
                          Anyone that uses that as an argument should be checked into a mental institution.
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                          • hitman2010
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-03-10
                            • 1465

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Rio DiNero
                            NYG are 4-10 straight up in thier last 14 games.
                            NY Giants are 2-6 ATS last 8 games at home
                            And the Gs did not show anything after 3 weeks.
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                            • Lockitup1x
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-21-09
                              • 1010

                              #84
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              So you are saying that Eli who had 2 picks on last game vs Titans will have a better game than Cutler who had 1 pick last week vs Packers and is facing a team that didn't record a pick vs Titans.
                              No, I'm saying that in this situation Eli and the Giants are superior to Jay and the Bears. I also think that the Giants match up better against the Bears than they do the Titans.

                              I'm not saying go wager your mortgage on the Giants, I'm just saying they are the right side IMHO.

                              Oh and BTW, do you really want to start dissecting situational interceptions between these two QB's?
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82666

                                #85
                                Kiwanuka for Giants out for the game. Is he important? One less body to harass Cutler.
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                                • d2bets
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                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 39847

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  Kiwanuka for Giants out for the game. Is he important? One less body to harass Cutler.
                                  He's more than a body. A very key part of their defense. Plus Keith Bullock out.
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                                  • astrodomer
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-03-10
                                    • 1665

                                    #87
                                    Da Bears will win the game outright they are for real this year
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                                    • emoney
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-12-09
                                      • 1481

                                      #88
                                      I don't get this. Which side are they trying to "trap" you into taking?
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                                      • Dirty Sanchez
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-01-10
                                        • 16031

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Smoke
                                        Even though the giants look like shit,

                                        Anyone that thinks the bears are gonna go 4-0 need to check themselves into a mental institution
                                        One could say the same thing about anyone who thought Toledo would beat Wyoming
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                                        • KingJIM
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 06-25-09
                                          • 757

                                          #90
                                          Whoever wins the turnover battle wins this game. Cutler looked like he might be reverting back to his gunslinger mentality during the Packers game and got bailed out by some flags and a packers drop. Bears defense is very proactive in producing turnovers and forced one to win the game last week. Eli has been very turnover friendly so far this year but apparently alot of them have been tips. As random as turnovers can be I still think Bears come out +1 or +2.
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                                          • Don Giovanni
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 09-02-10
                                            • 185

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by big0mar
                                            How do you think the Giants will defend the Bears???
                                            With four D-backs, three LBs, and four D-lineman.

                                            Here's what I see the Giants doing: Michael Boley will be covering Matt Forte straight up in the passing game (biggest threat to the Giants D), Giants blitzing more to create more pressure on Cutler, not punting the ball to Devin Hester, and controlling the ball on offense with steady play action pass. If the Giants limit mistakes, force Cutler into bad decisions and stop committing dumb penalties, they'll win the game and probably cover too. -Giovanni
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                                            • elchampion33
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-22-10
                                              • 218

                                              #92
                                              the giants are a mess right now, DA Bears win convincingly they shut down the run and force turnovers Chi 30 NY 17
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                                              • hitman2010
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-03-10
                                                • 1465

                                                #93
                                                there is no trap Bears win and still undeafted.
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39847

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Don Giovanni
                                                  With four D-backs, three LBs, and four D-lineman.

                                                  Here's what I see the Giants doing: Michael Boley will be covering Matt Forte straight up in the passing game (biggest threat to the Giants D), Giants blitzing more to create more pressure on Cutler, not punting the ball to Devin Hester, and controlling the ball on offense with steady play action pass. If the Giants limit mistakes, force Cutler into bad decisions and stop committing dumb penalties, they'll win the game and probably cover too. -Giovanni
                                                  Rather major IF's.

                                                  I see Julius Peppers knocking Eli out of the game.
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                                                  • Saluki09
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-30-08
                                                    • 1003

                                                    #95
                                                    Take the better team +4, Bears should win by 10
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                                                    • Bigmikesm
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-17-09
                                                      • 1616

                                                      #96
                                                      Love the Bears ml this game.
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                                                      • JosephPavs
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                                                        • 07-29-10
                                                        • 1660

                                                        #97
                                                        How is this any different from the Texans Cowboys Game
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                                                        • Art Vandelay
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-11-06
                                                          • 6704

                                                          #98
                                                          Reality check for Da Bears, who could actually be sitting 0-3 right now, plus a desperate Giants team, = A NY win by 7-10 points.
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                                                          • d2bets
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                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 39847

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by JosephPavs
                                                            How is this any different from the Texans Cowboys Game
                                                            Difference is Cowboys are actually pretty good. Giants are not and are riddled with injuries and turmoil. Plus Bears are getting 4 instead of laying 3. If Bears were laying 3 I don't think too many people would be on it.
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                                                            • in2thethickofit
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                                                              • 09-26-09
                                                              • 2622

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by astrodomer
                                                              Da Bears will win the game outright they are for real this year

                                                              Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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                                                              • Lockitup1x
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-21-09
                                                                • 1010

                                                                #101
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                                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                Kiwanuka for Giants out for the game. Is he important? One less body to harass Cutler.
                                                                Kiwanuka out and Bulluck doubtful = bad news for the Giants for sure. There are definitely better games to bet on Sunday - Gonna be a fun one to watch though... better than Bears Packers.
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                                                                • houdini
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 11-08-08
                                                                  • 174

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Eli is one of the highest paid players in the NFL. It is for a reason. Has he played well the last few games? Not really. Does everyone have a bad game or two? Yes. Let me assure you of this. Eli will propel the Giants to a double digit win guaranteed!!
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                                                                  • Addicted2Cash
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 09-23-10
                                                                    • 91

                                                                    #103
                                                                    ok good post and valid points, however to me this is not nearly as similar to those last year games as you make it sound...1st off i played sd in that dal game even though as you said several os my relatively "sharp" friends tried to get me off them. cant recall what i did in the den/sd game but think i passed (dont feel like looking back). point is chi is coming off a huge mon night and im sure feeling very good about themselves, i like this team but the way i saw there d play i believe s smith can own the short passing game and if nicks gets that soft cushion in the cover 2 i believe he is more capable of making bigger yac plays than the gb wrs were. granted this depends if Coughlin (who i hate) can get his freakin line to block someone(and not just anyone), comes down to when Tikki hates on nyg they respond and Manning has a big game picking apart the cover 2, and G-Men get to flex there d-line like they tried to against indy (Payton was to smart)Cutler/Martz on the other hand are TALENTED BUT NOT Payton smart, dunk Jay!!!!!!!!!
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                                                                    • LT Profits
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 10-27-06
                                                                      • 90963

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Three weeks ago, a lot of people were picking the Bears to finish last in the NFC North and some were calling them the worst team in the NFC.

                                                                      Three weeks later, they are suddenly world beaters just because they are 3-0?

                                                                      Not to mention this is a terrible scheduling spot for them, playing on a short week after an emotional division upset win over their biggest rivals.

                                                                      Just sayin'
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                                                                      • icancount2one
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-05-10
                                                                        • 1507

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                        The scariest part for me is that the Giants defense made Vince Young look very good a week after the Steelers shut him out completely. Now Cutler is not going to be rattled and is more of a passing threat than Young. I just can't see how the Giants defense will keep the Bears from scoring in the 20's and how can Giants offense score in the 20's when they scored in the 10's in their last 2 games.
                                                                        Originally posted by Rio DiNero
                                                                        NYG are 4-10 straight up in thier last 14 games.
                                                                        Originally posted by d2bets

                                                                        Difference is Cowboys are actually pretty good. Giants are not and are riddled with injuries and turmoil. Plus Bears are getting 4 instead of laying 3. If Bears were laying 3 I don't think too many people would be on it.
                                                                        Originally posted by Lockitup1x

                                                                        Kiwanuka out and Bulluck doubtful = bad news for the Giants for sure. There are definitely better games to bet on Sunday - Gonna be a fun one to watch though... better than Bears Packers.
                                                                        Sometimes the preseason projections get thrown out the window around this time of year. Julius Peppers and the pressure he brings has brought Chicago's D back to life, and Cutler really is playing better under Martz (which I thought was just a BS preseason "any reason for hope" thing.)

                                                                        Whether Chicago is a real contender or not though, one thing is for certain. The Giants are a team in total disarray. They did that whole thing last week where the on-field leadership called guys out, players only meeting, all that crap, and then they got blown out. Add a couple injuries into the mix and it's not pretty. Watch for a couple more ugly losses from the G-men and a new team for Tom Coughlin.
                                                                        Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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