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  • R19
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-31-11
    • 433

    #1786
    Columbus NHL not going above 3,000.

    To clarify, detroitigerz, are you looking at Vig moves in the puckline?
    Last edited by R19; 02-12-12, 06:02 PM.
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    • wiseguy007
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-20-12
      • 444

      #1787
      Originally posted by R19
      Columbus NHL not going above 3,000.
      Does not matter to me, I dont go by that.
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      • wiseguy007
        SBR Sharp
        • 01-20-12
        • 444

        #1788
        UPDATE

        Games to Watch 2/12/12

        Based on this:

        1. 3000 bets on one side with 63% & up. (3000 TOTAL BETS & 63% ON ONE SIDE IF YOU WANT)

        2. Atleast .5pt Reverse Line Movement.

        3. Using OPENING/CURRENT Lines from http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/NBA.html then comparing them to your book.

        4. NCAAB SPREADS 8PTS & UNDER, NBA SPREADS 11PTS & UNDER (IF YOU WANT)


        NCAAB

        12:00pm 814 Seton Hall Pirates OPEN -1.5 NOW -2 W

        1:00pm 815 Illinois Fighting Illini OPEN +5.5 NOW +5 L

        1:00pm 817 St. John's Red Storm OPEN 15.5 NOW +14 W

        4:00pm 835 Fairfield Stags OPEN +5 NOW +4 W

        5:30pm 826 Oregon State Beavers OPEN -3 NOW -3.5


        O/U:


        2/11/12: 0-1

        2/10/12: 1-0

        NCAAB O/U YTD: 2-1


        NBA

        3:30pm 804 Boston Celtics OPEN +3.5 NOW +1 W

        6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards OPEN +7 NOW +6

        7:05pm 808 Atlanta Hawks OPEN +4.5 NOW +4


        O/U:

        3:30pm 803 Chicago Bulls/804 Boston Celtics OPEN 176 NOW 173 - PLAY UNDER 172 L (LAST TIME I PLAY A GAME WHEN THE SPREAD MOVES LIKE THAT)

        6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards/806 Detroit Pistons OPEN 191.5 NOW 192.5 - PLAY OVER 192.5

        2/11/12: 0-1

        2/10/12: 2-0

        NBA O/U YTD: 4-1


        WEEK TOTAL: 2/6-2/11: 17-22

        YTD: 87-71-1 55%


        NHL PK LINE: 3-0

        6:05pm 58 Columbus Blue Jackets PK +1.5 OPEN -239 NOW -220

        7:05pm 61 Tampa Bay Lightning PK +1.5 OPEN -165 NOW -155

        7:35pm 63 Philadelphia Flyers PK +1.5 OPEN -220 NOW -200

        NHL ML: 0-1
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        • detroitigerz
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-19-12
          • 865

          #1789
          ignore this...
          Last edited by detroitigerz; 02-12-12, 06:18 PM.
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          • detroitigerz
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-19-12
            • 865

            #1790
            Originally posted by wiseguy007
            UPDATE


            NHL PK LINE: 3-0

            6:05pm 58 Columbus Blue Jackets PK +1.5 OPEN -239 NOW -220

            7:05pm 61 Tampa Bay Lightning PK +1.5 OPEN -165 NOW -155

            7:35pm 63 Philadelphia Flyers PK +1.5 OPEN -220 NOW -200

            NHL ML: 0-1
            Forgive me, as I said earlier I am a little slow today. But... Aren't all 3 of those lines moving in the wrong direction for RLM standards? Wait yeah, isn't that actually helping them? For instance, now you only have to bet 220 to win 100 on the blue jackets game to win a hundred instead of 239?
            Last edited by detroitigerz; 02-12-12, 06:25 PM.
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            • R19
              SBR Sharp
              • 10-31-11
              • 433

              #1791
              No doubt. Bulls vs. Celtics U on sh1t list. Just because some starters are out doesn't mean it's going to score low. If anything it throws those tendencies way off.
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              • DirkDiggs
                SBR Sharp
                • 12-07-10
                • 484

                #1792
                For an RLM play that doesn't fit the official criteria, I'll be playing the Rockets later tonight. Percentages are dead even, but the line has moved a point and a half against the Rockets. There be some serious coin on Houston.
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                • wiseguy007
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 01-20-12
                  • 444

                  #1793
                  Originally posted by detroitigerz
                  Forgive me, as I said earlier I am a little slow today. But... Aren't all 3 of those lines moving in the wrong direction for RLM standards? Wait yeah, isn't that actually helping them? For instance, now you only have to bet 220 to win 100 on the blue jackets game to win a hundred instead of 239?
                  All I can say is this is how I been doing it and it is winning.
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                  • CTOWNsCAPPIN
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-11-11
                    • 3079

                    #1794
                    Originally posted by DirkDiggs
                    For an RLM play that doesn't fit the official criteria, I'll be playing the Rockets later tonight. Percentages are dead even, but the line has moved a point and a half against the Rockets. There be some serious coin on Houston.
                    me and you both. Let's cash. BOL
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                    • No coincidences
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #1795
                      Originally posted by DirkDiggs
                      For an RLM play that doesn't fit the official criteria, I'll be playing the Rockets later tonight. Percentages are dead even, but the line has moved a point and a half against the Rockets. There be some serious coin on Houston.
                      Bets are basically even, 9-14 team favored vs. a 16-11 team -- why would you say that?

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                      • DirkDiggs
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 12-07-10
                        • 484

                        #1796
                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                        Bets are basically even, 9-14 team favored vs. a 16-11 team -- why would you say that?

                        The line movement is trying to bring in bettors to Golden State.

                        Why do you think the line has moved a point and a half when the number of bets are even?

                        ...Because the wagers on Houston, while similar in number to GS, total a much larger amount of $$.

                        The record are irrelevant to the line movement. Statistics and location are factored into the opening line, from there betting action drives the line movement.

                        It's the same principle that this system is based off, but instead of uneven percentages and minor line movement, here there is even percentages and major line movement. Both really indicate the same thing.
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                        • detroitigerz
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-19-12
                          • 865

                          #1797
                          Welp total card for the evening is this...

                          Flyers +1.5
                          Lightning +1.5
                          Celtics Under 172
                          Seton Hall -2
                          Wisconsin Milwaukee -2.5
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                          • R19
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 10-31-11
                            • 433

                            #1798
                            I'm going to puke blood of I go 0 for on O/U's today. Oh wait, I did. Would have been up big today with no O/U's.
                            Last edited by R19; 02-12-12, 08:41 PM.
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                            • Night-Tripper
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-14-09
                              • 3205

                              #1799
                              Looks like I'm gonna be a contrarian by betting against my home town team as well as most of ya'll on here.

                              Warriors -1/450
                              Rockets/Warriors O 203.5/450
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                              • R19
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 10-31-11
                                • 433

                                #1800
                                So RLM puts up Philadelphia vs. Detroit that has won 19 straight at home. It's that good. Philadelphia covers on the puckline, but the Red Wings are one of three teams in history with 20 straight home wins.
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                                • Night-Tripper
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-14-09
                                  • 3205

                                  #1801
                                  Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                  Looks like I'm gonna be a contrarian by betting against my home town team as well as most of ya'll on here.

                                  Warriors -1/450
                                  Rockets&Warriors O 203.5/450
                                  2nd half: Rockets&Warriors O100.5/450
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                                  • Night-Tripper
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-14-09
                                    • 3205

                                    #1802
                                    Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                    Looks like I'm gonna be a contrarian by betting against my home town team as well as most of ya'll on here.

                                    Warriors -1/450
                                    Rockets&Warriors O 203.5/450

                                    Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                    2nd half: Rockets&Warriors O100.5/450

                                    2nd half: Jazz&Grizzlies O95.5/450
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                                    • R19
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 10-31-11
                                      • 433

                                      #1803
                                      Still looking at more days, but when the public favors the dog on an NHL puckline by 62% or 63% + of the plays, the favored team on the puckline does not perform well.

                                      Hey, this might be a way to add plays. This would simplify the NHL strategy to always choose the dog when the public is at least 63% on one side and there are at least 3,000 total plays or more.

                                      An example is selecting the Florida Panthers today vs. the New York Islanders. 2,985 plays close enough.
                                      Last edited by R19; 02-12-12, 11:40 PM.
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                                      • detroitigerz
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-19-12
                                        • 865

                                        #1804
                                        Originally posted by R19
                                        Still looking at more days, but when the public favors the dog on an NHL puckline by 62% or 63% + of the plays, the favored team on the puckline does not perform well.

                                        Hey, this might be a way to add plays. This would simplify the NHL strategy to always choose the dog when the public is at least 63% on one side and there are at least 3,000 total plays or more.

                                        An example is selecting the Florida Panthers today vs. the New York Islanders. 2,985 plays close enough.
                                        What makes you say Florida would have been considered the dog in that game?
                                        27-17 vs 23-24

                                        Like it. Keep adding parameters! haha
                                        Last edited by detroitigerz; 02-13-12, 12:13 AM.
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                                        • R19
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 10-31-11
                                          • 433

                                          #1805
                                          Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                          Like it. Keep adding parameters! haha
                                          Can you check the approach of always receiving points on public biased pucklines no matter what side the public is on as long as they have > 63%, and there are close to or > 3,000 total plays?
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                                          • R19
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 10-31-11
                                            • 433

                                            #1806
                                            If someone wants to receive an A+ in RLM System Play class, they will determine if there is correlation between winning percentage and number of scheduled games on the day for NCAAB and NBA. This would further support why some days of the week have been much more profitable than others.
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                                            • detroitigerz
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-19-12
                                              • 865

                                              #1807
                                              Originally posted by R19
                                              Can you check the approach of always receiving points on public biased pucklines no matter what side the public is on as long as they have > 63%, and there are close to or > 3,000 total plays?
                                              Will def look into this tommorrow. Think that's a good idea, always like getting points more than giving points and RLM has in the past (IMO) done better when getting points.
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                                              • R19
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 10-31-11
                                                • 433

                                                #1808
                                                Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                                Will def look into this tommorrow. Think that's a good idea, always like getting points more than giving points and RLM has in the past (IMO) done better when getting points.
                                                If there is data to support plays that meet RLM and are favorites (giving points) not doing well in NCAAB and NBA, that would be good to know.
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                                                • Night-Tripper
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-14-09
                                                  • 3205

                                                  #1809
                                                  Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                                  Looks like I'm gonna be a contrarian by betting against my home town team as well as most of ya'll on here.

                                                  Warriors -1/450W
                                                  Rockets&Warriors O 203.5/450 L

                                                  Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                                  2nd half: Rockets&Warriors O100.5/450 W
                                                  Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                                  2nd half: Jazz&Grizzlies O95.5/450 W

                                                  Would rather lose by 20 than by a .5 point...
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                                                  • Laissez Faire
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-31-12
                                                    • 536

                                                    #1810
                                                    Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                                    Looks like I'm gonna be a contrarian by betting against my home town team as well as most of ya'll on here.

                                                    Warriors -1/450
                                                    best call of night
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                                                    • Laissez Faire
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-31-12
                                                      • 536

                                                      #1811
                                                      sorry I have been a little inactive the past few days...was in Puerto Rico filming something for Discovery Channel over the weekend...but I'm back & feeling confident this week...I'm still hitting pretty well in NHL
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                                                      • Laissez Faire
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-31-12
                                                        • 536

                                                        #1812
                                                        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                                                        Would rather lose by 20 than by a .5 point...

                                                        agreed
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                                                        • R19
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 10-31-11
                                                          • 433

                                                          #1813
                                                          Laisse Faire, what do you think about the puckline plays we have been discussing?
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                                                          • wiseguy007
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 01-20-12
                                                            • 444

                                                            #1814
                                                            RECORD UPDATE

                                                            Games to Watch 2/12/12

                                                            Based on this:

                                                            1. 3000 bets on one side with 63% & up. (3000 TOTAL BETS & 63% ON ONE SIDE IF YOU WANT)

                                                            2. Atleast .5pt Reverse Line Movement.

                                                            3. Using OPENING/CURRENT Lines from http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/NBA.html then

                                                            comparing them to your book.

                                                            4. NCAAB SPREADS 8PTS & UNDER, NBA SPREADS 11PTS & UNDER (IF YOU WANT)


                                                            NCAAB

                                                            12:00pm 814 Seton Hall Pirates OPEN -1.5 NOW -2 W

                                                            1:00pm 815 Illinois Fighting Illini OPEN +5.5 NOW +5 L

                                                            1:00pm 817 St. John's Red Storm OPEN 15.5 NOW +14 W

                                                            4:00pm 835 Fairfield Stags OPEN +5 NOW +4 W


                                                            5:30pm 826 Oregon State Beavers OPEN -3 NOW -3.5 L

                                                            3-2


                                                            O/U:


                                                            2/11/12: 0-1

                                                            2/10/12: 1-0

                                                            NCAAB O/U YTD: 2-1


                                                            NBA

                                                            3:30pm 804 Boston Celtics OPEN +3.5 NOW +1 W

                                                            6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards OPEN +7 NOW +6 W


                                                            7:05pm 808 Atlanta Hawks OPEN +4.5 NOW +4 L

                                                            2-1

                                                            O/U:

                                                            3:30pm 803 Chicago Bulls/804 Boston Celtics OPEN 176 NOW 173 - PLAY UNDER 172 L (LAST TIME I

                                                            PLAY A GAME WHEN THE SPREAD MOVES LIKE THAT)

                                                            6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards/806 Detroit Pistons OPEN 191.5 NOW 192.5 - PLAY OVER 192.5 L


                                                            2/12/12: 0-2

                                                            2/11/12: 0-1

                                                            2/10/12: 2-0

                                                            NBA O/U YTD: 4-3


                                                            2/12/12: 5-3

                                                            WEEK TOTAL: 2/6-2/11: 17-22

                                                            YTD: 92-74-1 55%


                                                            NHL PK LINE: 4-2 +$25 AS A 100 BETTOR

                                                            6:05pm 58 Columbus Blue Jackets PK +1.5 OPEN -239 NOW -220 L ( I THINK I F@#KED UP YESTERDAY I FORGET WHO POINTED IT OUT BUT I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED)

                                                            7:05pm 61 Tampa Bay Lightning PK +1.5 OPEN -165 NOW -155 L


                                                            7:35pm 63 Philadelphia Flyers PK +1.5 OPEN -220 NOW -200 W

                                                            NHL ML: 0-1
                                                            Last edited by wiseguy007; 02-13-12, 11:43 AM.
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                                                            • wiseguy007
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 01-20-12
                                                              • 444

                                                              #1815
                                                              UPDATE 11:40AM

                                                              Games to Watch 2/13/12

                                                              Based on this:

                                                              1. 3000 bets on one side with 63% & up. (3000 TOTAL BETS & 63% ON ONE SIDE IF YOU WANT)

                                                              2. Atleast .5pt Reverse Line Movement.

                                                              3. Using OPENING/CURRENT Lines from http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/NBA.html then

                                                              comparing them to your book.

                                                              4. NCAAB SPREADS 8PTS & UNDER, NBA SPREADS 11PTS & UNDER (IF YOU WANT)


                                                              NCAAB

                                                              7:00pm 514 Baylor Bears OPEN -8 NOW -9




                                                              O/U:

                                                              9:00pm 519 Maryland Eastern Shore Hawks/520 Coppin State Eagles OPEN 144.5 NOW 145.5 - PLAY OVER 145.5


                                                              2/11/12: 0-1

                                                              2/10/12: 1-0

                                                              NCAAB O/U YTD: 2-1


                                                              NBA

                                                              10:35pm 511 Phoenix Suns OPEN +3.5 NOW +3



                                                              O/U:



                                                              2/12/12: 0-2

                                                              2/11/12: 0-1

                                                              2/10/12: 2-0

                                                              NBA O/U YTD: 4-3


                                                              2/12/12: 5-3

                                                              WEEK TOTAL: 2/6-2/11: 17-22

                                                              YTD: 92-74-1 55%


                                                              NHL PK LINE: 4-2 +$25 AS A 100 BETTOR

                                                              10:05pm 5 Phoenix Coyotes PK +1.5 OPEN -180 NOW -200

                                                              NHL ML: 0-1

                                                              10:05pm 5 Phoenix Coyotes ML OPEN +160 NOW +150
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                                                              • Laissez Faire
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 01-31-12
                                                                • 536

                                                                #1816
                                                                Hey r19...I agree that the favorites have been winning the games outright but failing to cover the spreads recently...or that has at least been the case with my picks

                                                                I took the Blues & Red Wings yesterday....Blues easily covered but Red Wings only won by a goal....

                                                                As far as rlm for NHL is concerned, we need to compile a month's worth of statistics to analyze because handicapping these hockey games is a whole different world compared to betting bball or football. I have been using rlm to monitor the decreasing money lines for underdogs mostly, but there needs to be a secondary tool, in conjunction with rlm system, to truly determine value of the picks that rlm outputs
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                                                                • Laissez Faire
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 01-31-12
                                                                  • 536

                                                                  #1817
                                                                  Also, I'm trying to stay away from wagering spread underdogs (even though winning % is high) due to fact that payouts are so low

                                                                  For example, coyotes +1.5 is now -200...that's 2:1 in terms of input to output...even if bet wins, it's not worth my bankroll....NORMALLY

                                                                  What I will concede is that these type of plays have HUGE value if you're having losing week in other sports, because you can make up a little change with these NHL underdog spread bets if you have the bankroll. I use this same technique for favorites in bball if I ever need to recoup some losses
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                                                                  • R19
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 10-31-11
                                                                    • 433

                                                                    #1818
                                                                    Originally posted by Laissez Faire
                                                                    Hey r19...I agree that the favorites have been winning the games outright but failing to cover the spreads recently...or that has at least been the case with my picks

                                                                    I took the Blues & Red Wings yesterday....Blues easily covered but Red Wings only won by a goal....

                                                                    As far as rlm for NHL is concerned, we need to compile a month's worth of statistics to analyze because handicapping these hockey games is a whole different world compared to betting bball or football. I have been using rlm to monitor the decreasing money lines for underdogs mostly, but there needs to be a secondary tool, in conjunction with rlm system, to truly determine value of the picks that rlm outputs
                                                                    It looks like there is a huge winning rate by betting on the dog (receiving points) on the puckline when the public bias is 62/63% on a side and there are more than 2,850/3,000 total plays.
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                                                                    • detroitigerz
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 01-19-12
                                                                      • 865

                                                                      #1819
                                                                      Originally posted by wiseguy007
                                                                      RECORD UPDATE


                                                                      NHL PK LINE: 4-2 +$25 AS A 100 BETTOR

                                                                      6:05pm 58 Columbus Blue Jackets PK +1.5 OPEN -239 NOW -220 L ( I THINK I F@#KED UP YESTERDAY I FORGET WHO POINTED IT OUT BUT I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED)

                                                                      7:05pm 61 Tampa Bay Lightning PK +1.5 OPEN -165 NOW -155 L


                                                                      7:35pm 63 Philadelphia Flyers PK +1.5 OPEN -220 NOW -200 W

                                                                      NHL ML: 0-1


                                                                      I did... but if it makes you feel better, I played the Lightning game and flyers game too so I went against what I was saying too haha. Lines should have gone the other way. I THINK there werent supposed to be any hockey plays last night. I just played for the sake of the fact that games >63% and at least 3000 bets are 28-4 now since 1/31... well I should say 29-5 now =( Figures the day I start playing hockey they'd win one and lose one haha.

                                                                      R19, I am looking into the games getting points in an hour or so, have an exam I have to take by 4 so primary focus is there.
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                                                                      • wiseguy007
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 01-20-12
                                                                        • 444

                                                                        #1820
                                                                        Originally posted by detroitigerz


                                                                        I did... but if it makes you feel better, I played the Lightning game and flyers game too so I went against what I was saying too haha. Lines should have gone the other way. I THINK there werent supposed to be any hockey plays last night. I just played for the sake of the fact that games >63% and at least 3000 bets are 28-4 now since 1/31... well I should say 29-5 now =( Figures the day I start playing hockey they'd win one and lose one haha.

                                                                        R19, I am looking into the games getting points in an hour or so, have an exam I have to take by 4 so primary focus is there.
                                                                        Thanks, next time I will take your warning.
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