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  • wiseguy007
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-20-12
    • 444

    #1751
    Originally posted by hkssupra69
    vandy i think should be removed from the list, kentucky is favored by 5.5 again
    Still -5 here http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/CBB.html
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    • R19
      SBR Sharp
      • 10-31-11
      • 433

      #1752
      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
      Hofstra is a team that needs to be removed from your rlm list because these fukks could not cover if the rlm was 10
      May I place the Charlotte Bobcats on my sh1t list? I'm gonna start really looking at some of these NBA dogs. The usual suspects.

      That's it. I think I will start at least building a sh1t list for NCAAB and NBA. Whether or not I act on it, I'll have to see.
      Last edited by R19; 02-11-12, 09:53 PM.
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      • Night-Tripper
        SBR MVP
        • 12-14-09
        • 3205

        #1753
        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
        Connecticut +10/450 L
        Georgia +9.5/450 W
        South Carolina +5.5/450 L
        South Carolina +200/200 L

        I'm sure there'll be more later

        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
        Adding:
        UNLV -9.5/450 L
        Hofstra +12/450 W
        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
        Adding:
        Rhode Island +7/450 P
        Rhode Island +260/200 L
        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
        Adding:
        South Florida +1.5/450 W
        Nuggets +3/550 W
        Nuggets +130/200 W
        Hofstra +600/200 L
        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
        Adding:
        Duquesne +4/450 L
        Duquesne +165/200 L
        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
        Adding:
        Wichita State -0/450 W
        GWU +7/450 W
        GWU +250/200 W
        Originally posted by Night-Tripper
        Today obviously ain't the day to be playing moneylines... oh well. Turning everything left on my list now, because I'm going to be preoccupied tonight.

        Arkansas State +6/450 W
        Arkansas State +220/200 L
        Auburn +7.5/450 W
        Auburn +275/200 L
        Austin Peay +11/450 L
        Citadel +3.5/450 W
        Citadel +145/200 L
        Princeton +5.5/450 W
        Princeton +200/200 W
        Vanderbilt +5/450 L
        Vanderbilt +175/200 L
        FAU -5.5/450 L
        San Jose State +7/450 W
        San Jose State +270/200 L

        Good luck to everyone RLM'ing tonight!
        Didn't start out to well... but ended up having a decent day... and came damn close to having an outstanding day.
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        • wiseguy007
          SBR Sharp
          • 01-20-12
          • 444

          #1754
          RECORD UPDATE

          Games to Watch 2/11/12

          Based on this:

          1. 3000 bets on one side with 63% & up.

          2. Atleast .5pt Reverse Line Movement.

          3. Using OPENING/CURRENT Lines from

          http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/NBA.html then comparing

          them to your book.

          4. NCAAB SPREADS 8PTS & UNDER, NBA SPREADS 11PTS & UNDER (IF

          YOU WANT)


          NCAAB

          1:00pm 535 Connecticut Huskies OPEN +11 NOW +10 L

          1:30pm 539 South Carolina Gamecocks OPEN +6.5 NOW +5.5 L


          1:30pm 541 Georgia Bulldogs OPEN +10 NOW +9 W

          4:00pm 571 South Florida Bulls OPEN +2 NOW +1.5 W

          4:00pm 576 UNLV Runnin' Rebels OPEN -9.5 NOW -10 L

          4:00pm 573 Hofstra Pride OPEN 13 NOW +11.5 W

          6:30pm 608 Arizona State Sun Devils OPEN +4.5 NOW +3.5 L

          7:00pm 628 Princeton Tigers OPEN +6 NOW +5 W


          8:30pm 711 Austin Peay Governors OPEN +12 NOW +11 L

          9:00pm 660 Vanderbilt Commodores OPEN +5.5 NOW +5 L


          11:00pm 680 San Jose State Spartans OPEN +8 NOW +7 W


          O/U:

          1:00pm 535 Connecticut Huskies/536 Syracuse Orange OPEN 132.5 NOW 132 - PLAY UNDER 132 L


          2/10/12: 0-1

          2/10/12: 1-0

          NCAAB O/U YTD: 2-1


          NBA

          7:05pm 503 Denver Nuggets OPEN +3.5 NOW +3 W

          O/U:

          8:05pm 509 San Antonio Spurs/510 New Jersey Nets OPEN 191.5 NOW 194 - PLAY OVER 194 L

          2/11/12: 0-1

          2/10/12: 2-0

          NBA O/U YTD: 4-1


          RECORD 2/11/12: 6-6

          RECORD 2/10/12: 3-3


          RECORD 2/9/12: 3-5


          RECORD 2/8/12: 2-5


          RECORD 2/7/12: 2-2


          RECORD 2/6/12: 1-1


          WEEK TOTAL: 2/6-2/11: 17-22


          YTD: 87-71-1 55%


          NHL PK LINE: 3-0

          1:05pm 1 Nashville Predators OPEN +1.5 -240 NOW -225 W

          10:05pm 24 Calgary Flames OPEN +1.5 -245 NOW -225 W



          NHL ML: 0-1
          Last edited by wiseguy007; 02-12-12, 10:06 AM.
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          • southpaw74
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-21-09
            • 7104

            #1755
            Looks like setan hall is our early play
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            • wiseguy007
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-20-12
              • 444

              #1756
              UPDATE 10:27PM

              Games to Watch 2/12/12

              Based on this:

              1. 3000 bets on one side with 63% & up. (3000 TOTAL BETS & 63% ON ONE SIDE IF YOU WANT)

              2. Atleast .5pt Reverse Line Movement.

              3. Using OPENING/CURRENT Lines from http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/NBA.html then comparing them to your book.

              4. NCAAB SPREADS 8PTS & UNDER, NBA SPREADS 11PTS & UNDER (IF YOU WANT)


              WEEK TOTAL: 2/6-2/11: 17-22

              YTD: 87-71-1 55%


              NCAAB

              12:00pm 814 Seton Hall Pirates OPEN -1.5 NOW -2

              1:00pm 817 St. John's Red Storm OPEN 15.5 NOW +14

              5:30pm 826 Oregon State Beavers OPEN -3 NOW -3.5


              O/U:

              1:00pm 815 Illinois Fighting Illini/816 Michigan Wolverines OPEN 119 NOW 118 - PLAY UNDER 118


              2/10/12: 0-1

              2/10/12: 1-0

              NCAAB O/U YTD: 2-1


              NBA

              3:30pm 804 Boston Celtics OPEN +3.5 NOW +3

              6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards OPEN +7 NOW +6

              7:05pm 808 Atlanta Hawks OPEN +4.5 NOW +4


              O/U:

              3:30pm 803 Chicago Bulls/804 Boston Celtics OPEN 176 NOW 173 - PLAY UNDER 173

              6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards/806 Detroit Pistons OPEN 191.5 NOW 192.5 - PLAY OVER 192.5

              2/11/12: 0-1

              2/10/12: 2-0

              NBA O/U YTD: 4-1



              NHL PK LINE: 3-0



              NHL ML: 0-1
              Last edited by wiseguy007; 02-12-12, 12:13 PM. Reason: ADDING 1:00pm 817 St. John's Red Storm OPEN 15.5 NOW +14
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              • R19
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-31-11
                • 433

                #1757
                Originally posted by Night-Tripper
                Didn't start out to well... but ended up having a decent day... and came damn close to having an outstanding day.
                Good to hear. This last week has been difficult. I was in the black yesterday, but expected a substantial up day given past Saturdays. I had opened up my approach to high spreads as well specifically for the day. Saturday is over and will run 8.0 max spread. Very interested in O/U's. Today there are several.
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                • DirkDiggs
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 12-07-10
                  • 484

                  #1758
                  Feeling real nice about this Seton Hall game. I just doubled up.
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                  • R19
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 10-31-11
                    • 433

                    #1759
                    wiseguy007. Thanks for posting the plays on O/U's! If the trend continues, it will be a huge part of the RLM Strategy.
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                    • wiseguy007
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-20-12
                      • 444

                      #1760
                      UPDATE 12:40PM

                      Games to Watch 2/12/12

                      Based on this:

                      1. 3000 bets on one side with 63% & up. (3000 TOTAL BETS & 63% ON ONE SIDE IF YOU WANT)

                      2. Atleast .5pt Reverse Line Movement.

                      3. Using OPENING/CURRENT Lines from http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/NBA.html then comparing them to your book.

                      4. NCAAB SPREADS 8PTS & UNDER, NBA SPREADS 11PTS & UNDER (IF YOU WANT)


                      NCAAB

                      12:00pm 814 Seton Hall Pirates OPEN -1.5 NOW -2

                      1:00pm 815 Illinois Fighting Illini OPEN +5.5 NOW +5

                      1:00pm 817 St. John's Red Storm OPEN 15.5 NOW +14

                      5:30pm 826 Oregon State Beavers OPEN -3 NOW -3.5


                      O/U:


                      2/11/12: 0-1

                      2/10/12: 1-0

                      NCAAB O/U YTD: 2-1


                      NBA

                      3:30pm 804 Boston Celtics OPEN +3.5 NOW +3

                      6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards OPEN +7 NOW +6

                      7:05pm 808 Atlanta Hawks OPEN +4.5 NOW +4


                      O/U:

                      3:30pm 803 Chicago Bulls/804 Boston Celtics OPEN 176 NOW 173 - PLAY UNDER 173

                      6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards/806 Detroit Pistons OPEN 191.5 NOW 192.5 - PLAY OVER 192.5

                      2/11/12: 0-1

                      2/10/12: 2-0

                      NBA O/U YTD: 4-1


                      WEEK TOTAL: 2/6-2/11: 17-22

                      YTD: 87-71-1 55%


                      NHL PK LINE: 3-0

                      6:05pm 58 Columbus Blue Jackets PK +1.5 OPEN -239 NOW -220

                      7:05pm 61 Tampa Bay Lightning PK +1.5 OPEN -165 NOW -155

                      7:35pm 63 Philadelphia Flyers PK +1.5 OPEN -220 NOW -200

                      NHL ML: 0-1
                      Last edited by wiseguy007; 02-12-12, 02:16 PM.
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                      • wiseguy007
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 01-20-12
                        • 444

                        #1761
                        Originally posted by R19
                        wiseguy007. Thanks for posting the plays on O/U's! If the trend continues, it will be a huge part of the RLM Strategy.
                        Sure thing, I agree. could be much better then spreads.
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                        • R19
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 10-31-11
                          • 433

                          #1762
                          When both the spread and O/U's are in play, what are thoughts on a teaser or playing both positions plus a teaser? I understand that is requiring both sides to be winners, but you do receive extra points.
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                          • detroitigerz
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-19-12
                            • 865

                            #1763
                            Originally posted by wiseguy007
                            Sure thing, I agree. could be much better then spreads.
                            How are you guys playing these O/U's? I'm not sure I understand how you're using the RLM for it.
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                            • R19
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 10-31-11
                              • 433

                              #1764
                              Originally posted by detroitigerz
                              How are you guys playing these O/U's? I'm not sure I understand how you're using the RLM for it.
                              - Public 63% or greater on a side.
                              - Good number of plays. The plays are going to be much lower for O/U's.
                              - Static or RLM against the public from the opening O/U line.
                              - Position against the public.
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                              • detroitigerz
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-19-12
                                • 865

                                #1765
                                Originally posted by R19
                                - Public 63% or greater on a side.
                                - Good number of plays. The plays are going to be much lower for O/U's.
                                - Static or RLM against the public from the opening O/U line.
                                - Position against the public.

                                Thanks, was looking in the wrong column so I couldn't understand all the picks haha. Yeah I could see how playing the O/U's might be better. Not to mention it's a WAY more fun way to watch the games haha. just my opinion..

                                In other news, Seton Hall!
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                                • detroitigerz
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-19-12
                                  • 865

                                  #1766
                                  Jesus, I may be missing something... I'm sure I am but I just looked at last 3 days at NHL and the spreads. over 3000 bets, static or line movement, hasn't lost? Only loss I see in 3 days is that penguins game yesterday? Am I missing something? That would have been like 14-1?
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                                  • R19
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-31-11
                                    • 433

                                    #1767
                                    Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                    Jesus, I may be missing something... I'm sure I am but I just looked at last 3 days at NHL and the spreads. over 3000 bets, static or line movement, hasn't lost? Only loss I see in 3 days is that penguins game yesterday? Am I missing something? That would have been like 14-1?
                                    Watching moneylines?
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                                    • detroitigerz
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-19-12
                                      • 865

                                      #1768
                                      No, Pucklines... same as spread. I mean these never move, and I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong but seriously, start with yesterday and work your way back on freesportsbets.com Over 3000 bets, 63% or more on one side. Static or line movement (pretty much only static).... I got all the way back to Jan 29th before freesports won't let me see the games. I saw MAYBE 4 losses in like 20 games.
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                                      • DirkDiggs
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-07-10
                                        • 484

                                        #1769
                                        Originally posted by DirkDiggs
                                        Feeling real nice about this Seton Hall game. I just doubled up.


                                        Also feeling quite nice about the Celtics and the under. I think I'm going to play both of these 2x. Also, Rose is out...
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                                        • wiseguy007
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 01-20-12
                                          • 444

                                          #1770
                                          UPDATE 2:52PM

                                          Games to Watch 2/12/12

                                          Based on this:

                                          1. 3000 bets on one side with 63% & up. (3000 TOTAL BETS & 63% ON ONE SIDE IF YOU WANT)

                                          2. Atleast .5pt Reverse Line Movement.

                                          3. Using OPENING/CURRENT Lines from http://www.freesportsbet.com/consensus/NBA.html then comparing them to your book.

                                          4. NCAAB SPREADS 8PTS & UNDER, NBA SPREADS 11PTS & UNDER (IF YOU WANT)


                                          NCAAB

                                          12:00pm 814 Seton Hall Pirates OPEN -1.5 NOW -2 W

                                          1:00pm 815 Illinois Fighting Illini OPEN +5.5 NOW +5

                                          1:00pm 817 St. John's Red Storm OPEN 15.5 NOW +14

                                          4:00pm 835 Fairfield Stags OPEN +5 NOW +4

                                          5:30pm 826 Oregon State Beavers OPEN -3 NOW -3.5


                                          O/U:


                                          2/11/12: 0-1

                                          2/10/12: 1-0

                                          NCAAB O/U YTD: 2-1


                                          NBA

                                          3:30pm 804 Boston Celtics OPEN +3.5 NOW +1

                                          6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards OPEN +7 NOW +6

                                          7:05pm 808 Atlanta Hawks OPEN +4.5 NOW +4


                                          O/U:

                                          3:30pm 803 Chicago Bulls/804 Boston Celtics OPEN 176 NOW 172 - PLAY UNDER 172

                                          6:05pm 805 Washington Wizards/806 Detroit Pistons OPEN 191.5 NOW 192.5 - PLAY OVER 192.5

                                          2/11/12: 0-1

                                          2/10/12: 2-0

                                          NBA O/U YTD: 4-1


                                          WEEK TOTAL: 2/6-2/11: 17-22

                                          YTD: 87-71-1 55%


                                          NHL PK LINE: 3-0

                                          6:05pm 58 Columbus Blue Jackets PK +1.5 OPEN -239 NOW -220

                                          7:05pm 61 Tampa Bay Lightning PK +1.5 OPEN -165 NOW -155

                                          7:35pm 63 Philadelphia Flyers PK +1.5 OPEN -220 NOW -200

                                          NHL ML: 0-1
                                          Last edited by wiseguy007; 02-12-12, 04:22 PM.
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                                          • R19
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 10-31-11
                                            • 433

                                            #1771
                                            Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                            No, Pucklines... same as spread. I mean these never move, and I'm guessing I'm doing something wrong but seriously, start with yesterday and work your way back on freesportsbets.com Over 3000 bets, 63% or more on one side. Static or line movement (pretty much only static).... I got all the way back to Jan 29th before freesports won't let me see the games. I saw MAYBE 4 losses in like 20 games.
                                            I see it. Monster Vig, but Vig doesn't matter if you win that much. Am I missing something? If not, going to play, but have to wait for volume (number of plays).
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                                            • southpaw74
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-21-09
                                              • 7104

                                              #1772
                                              Crazy moves on celtics game! Down to +1 and 171.5. That's a ton from opening
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                                              • Capybara
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-17-08
                                                • 11803

                                                #1773
                                                Originally posted by southpaw74
                                                Crazy moves on celtics game! Down to +1 and 171.5. That's a ton from opening
                                                No Derrick Rose, that's why. I jumped on the C's, but now I learned no Oneil or Brandon Bass for C's... hmm... not feeling confident. This could be a big trap for the "sharps" and a cash cow for the public. We'll see.
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                                                • R19
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-31-11
                                                  • 433

                                                  #1774
                                                  wiseguy007, what about LA Kings?

                                                  Also, since the Vig is so high on pucklines, would you risk a set about or place to win a certain amount?
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                                                  • detroitigerz
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-19-12
                                                    • 865

                                                    #1775
                                                    Originally posted by R19
                                                    I see it. Monster Vig, but Vig doesn't matter if you win that much. Am I missing something? If not, going to play, but have to wait for volume (number of plays).
                                                    Damn, yeah didn't think about that the VIG is effin huge. Almost not worthwhile... I'm def gunna track this though I mean with that amount of wins compared to losses thats nuts.
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                                                    • detroitigerz
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-19-12
                                                      • 865

                                                      #1776
                                                      Originally posted by Capybara
                                                      No Derrick Rose, that's why. I jumped on the C's, but now I learned no Oneil or Brandon Bass for C's... hmm... not feeling confident. This could be a big trap for the "sharps" and a cash cow for the public. We'll see.
                                                      I took the under at 172... Kinda hope they all get injured haha.
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                                                      • R19
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-31-11
                                                        • 433

                                                        #1777
                                                        Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                                        Damn, yeah didn't think about that the VIG is effin huge. Almost not worthwhile... I'm def gunna track this though I mean with that amount of wins compared to losses thats nuts.
                                                        Can you run the numbers real quick on average -200 Vig on the recent record you see? I just ran 20-4 on -300 Vig which is never going to be the average, and it's still profitable.

                                                        75% win rate is profitable at -300 Vig.
                                                        72% win rate is break even at -250 Vig.

                                                        Illinois is on my sh1t list.
                                                        Last edited by R19; 02-12-12, 03:16 PM.
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                                                        • wiseguy007
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 01-20-12
                                                          • 444

                                                          #1778
                                                          Originally posted by R19
                                                          wiseguy007, what about LA Kings?

                                                          Also, since the Vig is so high on pucklines, would you risk a set about or place to win a certain amount?
                                                          No play on the kings, line is moving the wrong way for a play.

                                                          Yeah I hate the High vig on puck lines but if they win at a high rate it will not matter.

                                                          Going to think of a better way to play these so far the only thing I come up with is a chase system but I hate them.
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                                                          • southpaw74
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-21-09
                                                            • 7104

                                                            #1779
                                                            Originally posted by Capybara
                                                            No Derrick Rose, that's why. I jumped on the C's, but now I learned no Oneil or Brandon Bass for C's... hmm... not feeling confident. This could be a big trap for the "sharps" and a cash cow for the public. We'll see.
                                                            Thanks! I didn't know that but thought something must be up. I just layed off
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                                                            • R19
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 10-31-11
                                                              • 433

                                                              #1780
                                                              Originally posted by wiseguy007
                                                              No play on the kings, line is moving the wrong way for a play.
                                                              On LA Kings NHL, I see static pucklines and moneylines. Is it because you are looking for at least some RLM in the moneyline? Thanks.
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                                                              • detroitigerz
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 01-19-12
                                                                • 865

                                                                #1781
                                                                Originally posted by R19
                                                                On LA Kings NHL, I see static pucklines and moneylines. Is it because you are looking for at least some RLM in the moneyline? Thanks.
                                                                Well going back to Jan 31st... (THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH RLM) NHL Puck lines for games that ONLY requirement is over 63% are 38-30.... NHL Puck lines that have at least 3000 bets (total) and 63% on one side are 15-4. That's a 375% win rate haha.

                                                                375>75 for the -250 vig line you were talking about earlier R19.

                                                                Once again I wish I had more data on this (or could at least go back further) but I'm going to start playing NHL games with 3000 bets and at least 63%. NOT paying attention to which way the line is moving. Probably am going to pay for that...
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                                                                • wiseguy007
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 01-20-12
                                                                  • 444

                                                                  #1782
                                                                  Originally posted by R19
                                                                  On LA Kings NHL, I see static pucklines and moneylines. Is it because you are looking for at least some RLM in the moneyline? Thanks.
                                                                  Lets take the tampa game for example.

                                                                  7:05pm 61 Tampa Bay Lightning 594 30 30% 1034 (24%) 24%
                                                                  62 Pittsburgh Penguins 1417 70 70% 3211 (76%) 76%

                                                                  So we have 70% on Pitt puckline, I'm looking for at least a 10cent RLM from tampa bay.

                                                                  As you can see Tampa bay +1.5 open at -165 to now -155, same thing goes for ML plays. I look at them both as different plays.

                                                                  So you can see Pitt open at -200 and now -220 ML so that is moving in the right direction, so it is a no play.
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                                                                  • DirkDiggs
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 12-07-10
                                                                    • 484

                                                                    #1783
                                                                    Originally posted by detroitigerz
                                                                    That's a 375% win rate haha.

                                                                    375>75 for the -250 vig line you were talking about earlier R19.
                                                                    The first part makes me think you are joking, but the second part makes me not so sure...

                                                                    It's a 79% win rate.
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                                                                    • R19
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 10-31-11
                                                                      • 433

                                                                      #1784
                                                                      Thanks to everyone for the ice tips. Gonna put my blades on.
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                                                                      • detroitigerz
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 01-19-12
                                                                        • 865

                                                                        #1785
                                                                        Originally posted by DirkDiggs
                                                                        The first part makes me think you are joking, but the second part makes me not so sure...

                                                                        It's a 79% win rate.

                                                                        Wow, I am totally slipping. Been doing homework all day guess my brain is friend. Or maybe I am an idiot, I'm not so sure anymore.
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