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  • chilidog
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-05-09
    • 10305

    #911
    Originally posted by jolmscheid
    That's good to know Chili....it's just that you have not been using the point-buying with them, so I am afraid that if they see all I do is buy points, then they won't pay...
    Well, I use betus and sportsbook.com to play the jm nba systems, and I have to buy 3 points with those. I pretty much only play the jm systems on betus/sportsbook.com. I like to just play 1 system per sportsbook. With my 2 locals, I only play the plays from the calculator.
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    • ghost xx
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-26-10
      • 170

      #912
      I have to fight like hell to collect my money with betus
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      • impper
        SBR Sharp
        • 11-11-10
        • 490

        #913
        How's JM working out for you this year chili? It seemed like a lot of JM plays were losing but I haven't paid close attention. Maybe none of them made it to the third leg?
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        • chilidog
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-05-09
          • 10305

          #914
          It's been going good, as usual. This is my 3rd year playing the JM NBA systems, and it's always worked really good.
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          • jolmscheid
            Restricted User
            • 02-20-10
            • 3256

            #915
            Well I guess I will stick with RebateWager for now and HOPEFULLY they will allow me to keep doing this unlike BetJam
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            • jolmscheid
              Restricted User
              • 02-20-10
              • 3256

              #916
              Chili...with the JM systems...do you play ALL the sports and martingale?? Do you play them on a labby? I get his plays too, but haven't followed them at all...
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              • chilidog
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-05-09
                • 10305

                #917
                Originally posted by jolmscheid
                Chili...with the JM systems...do you play ALL the sports and martingale?? Do you play them on a labby? I get his plays too, but haven't followed them at all...
                I play the NBA/NFL on labby lines.
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                • jolmscheid
                  Restricted User
                  • 02-20-10
                  • 3256

                  #918
                  Gotcha...so no NHL? And do you do just a regular 1-Line Labby? 2-Line Labby?? Thanks
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                  • chilidog
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-05-09
                    • 10305

                    #919
                    No NHL, and just a one line labby, but I move them around all the time. I have the plays in an excel spreadsheet, and if there's a play for the day, I just grab the oldest active labby line and use that one for today's play. If there's multiple games going on, I do the same thing, just grab however many open labbys I have, and move them to today. If there are no other open labby lines, then I just start a new one, but with increased wager amounts.
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                    • impper
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 11-11-10
                      • 490

                      #920
                      If I understand labby correctly, that's basically a martingale system that distributes the losses over multiple bets instead of doubling up, correct?
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                      • chilidog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-05-09
                        • 10305

                        #921
                        correct
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                        • impper
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-11-10
                          • 490

                          #922
                          Nice. I know martingale has been disproved by computer simulations time and time again. Does the Labby system do well? Because Martingale does come out positive more often than not over a long series of trials, but the rare catastrophic losses of the entire bankroll more than invalidate the gains. What are the chances that a Labby system goes bust?
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                          • chilidog
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-05-09
                            • 10305

                            #923
                            Certainly possible if you go on a long losing streak, but I haven't had that happen yet.
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                            • chilidog
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-05-09
                              • 10305

                              #924
                              hey impper, you still running nba totals through the calc?
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                              • impper
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 11-11-10
                                • 490

                                #925
                                I haven't been running NBA totals, since buying points is a bad proposition as far as that's concerned. When you buy two half points on the nba, you're moving the line by 10-30% or more, when you're buying two half points on a total you're only moving the line by half a percent.
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                                • impper
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-11-10
                                  • 490

                                  #926
                                  I mean I haven't been buying points for NBA. I do however use Pinnacle's lines as a guide. If I come down on one side of a game and Pinnacle is favoring that side, I bet it.
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                                  • chilidog
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-05-09
                                    • 10305

                                    #927
                                    Yah I know, but I meant when your book is giving you a different total than the pinny line, or in my case, where you can get the sides at -105. I just don't know how effective it is; but I assumed there has to be an angle there, since the function exists in the calc for a reason.
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                                    • impper
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 11-11-10
                                      • 490

                                      #928
                                      if pinny is offering something at -110 and you can get a half point better with -105, i believe you have an edge there. Of course, NBA total lines move like crazy... the good thing is it's relatively easy to predict
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                                      • jolmscheid
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 02-20-10
                                        • 3256

                                        #929
                                        I guess I don't really understand Chili how you do your labby lines...can you explain a little more?? I have heard of people doing like a 2-Line Labby and just spreading the losses out equally over both lines and just moving back and forth from one day to the next...that way the wagers don't get huge...

                                        For example a 2-Line labby like this:

                                        10-10-10-10

                                        10-10-10-10

                                        You still play the 2 outside numbers but say you LOST your $20 bet, then you make the lines like this:

                                        12.50-12.50-12.50-12.50

                                        12.50-12.50.12.50-12.50

                                        Then if you WIN your next game, then the lines are like this:

                                        12.50-12.50-12.50-12.50

                                        12.50-12.50



                                        Let me know what you think...I trust you and impper a lot so just wanted your insight...
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                                        • chilidog
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-05-09
                                          • 10305

                                          #930
                                          Sure, you can do it like that as well. There's so many different ways to do the labby; so whatever you're most comfortable with. I personally like a 1 line labby, doing it the way I've been doing it.
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                                          • mrkron
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 12-28-09
                                            • 565

                                            #931
                                            i have no ncaa plays tonite
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                                            • chilidog
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 04-05-09
                                              • 10305

                                              #932
                                              Originally posted by mrkron
                                              i have no ncaa plays tonite
                                              There's always NBA though

                                              Jolm and I got on Houston -3 for CBB earlier today.
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                                              • chilidog
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-05-09
                                                • 10305

                                                #933
                                                And for the NBA tonight:

                                                NBA
                                                Atlanta +9.5 (2.8 units)
                                                NY Knicks -3.5 (3.5 units)
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                                                • chilidog
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-05-09
                                                  • 10305

                                                  #934
                                                  Originally posted by chilidog
                                                  Only play I have for now is:

                                                  CBB
                                                  Houston -3 0.82% - PUSH
                                                  Originally posted by chilidog
                                                  And for the NBA tonight:

                                                  NBA
                                                  Atlanta +9.5 (2.8 units) - WIN
                                                  NY Knicks -3.5 (3.5 units) - WIN
                                                  Picked up another +6.3 units today
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                                                  • fennigan
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 05-05-10
                                                    • 20

                                                    #935
                                                    Went 4-1. One College and 4 NBA. Two or two and a half units for each.

                                                    With the one loss being Thunder +8, the final score 90-99. So close
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                                                    • chilidog
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-05-09
                                                      • 10305

                                                      #936
                                                      Nice You using a local to buy 3 pts at -165?
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                                                      • pokerwhiz90
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-02-10
                                                        • 2618

                                                        #937
                                                        Hey Chili dog keep it up! I don't gamble anymore but I'm a handicapper wanting to support you with your success and to continue what you are doing.
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                                                        • chilidog
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-05-09
                                                          • 10305

                                                          #938
                                                          Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                                                          Hey Chili dog keep it up! I don't gamble anymore but I'm a handicapper wanting to support you with your success and to continue what you are doing.


                                                          I hope it keeps up like this, too
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                                                          • pokerwhiz90
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-02-10
                                                            • 2618

                                                            #939
                                                            i'm not going to jump on this system until the winning rate lowers, because I'm afraid we haven't seen the downside (if there is one) to this. You can't profit 6 out of 7 days like this, it's too ridiculous
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                                                            • impper
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 11-11-10
                                                              • 490

                                                              #940
                                                              Welp, I'm up 12 units now, but I had a bet on the Clippers which looked good all night, except now they're being the clippers so I'm probably going to end up +6 units, instead of being up huge...

                                                              ******* clippers. i hate del negro
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                                                              • impper
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 11-11-10
                                                                • 490

                                                                #941
                                                                With point buying I was 7-2-1 today. 9-2-2 on bets where I doubled up later on the day. I added a few totals parlays and went 2-3-0 , looking like 2-4-0 after clipps lose. So break-even on parlays, would be up huge on parlays if Clips just didn't suck...
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                                                                • impper
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 11-11-10
                                                                  • 490

                                                                  #942
                                                                  Okay Clips bet actually looks safe now. So with the winning parlay and winning point-buying bet I'm up +20-something units. The Clips talent prevails over del negro's determination to lose...
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                                                                  • GGZOLA
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-30-06
                                                                    • 1118

                                                                    #943
                                                                    hey chili....glad u doing well. I just couldnt continure tailing without buying 3 points for -165....I cant believe your books take the action even though you smoke them, hope it continues...by any chance you tracked the plays without 3 points or did u give up on that?
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                                                                    • chilidog
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-05-09
                                                                      • 10305

                                                                      #944
                                                                      Originally posted by pokerwhiz90
                                                                      i'm not going to jump on this system until the winning rate lowers, because I'm afraid we haven't seen the downside (if there is one) to this. You can't profit 6 out of 7 days like this, it's too ridiculous
                                                                      Sure, I guess the downside is the losing days that occur. But mathematically, the winning days will always outnumber the losing days. It's a mathematical certainty. Numbers can't lie.

                                                                      Originally posted by impper
                                                                      Okay Clips bet actually looks safe now. So with the winning parlay and winning point-buying bet I'm up +20-something units. The Clips talent prevails over del negro's determination to lose...


                                                                      I thought I kicked butt with my +6 units, but +20 is even better!! Congrats! Gosh, I love hearing about +20 unit days. I mean, c'mon, when does that normally happen, on a consistent basis (multiple times a week), with any other form of handicapping? It'd be hard to find it!

                                                                      Originally posted by GGZOLA
                                                                      hey chili....glad u doing well. I just couldnt continure tailing without buying 3 points for -165....I cant believe your books take the action even though you smoke them, hope it continues...by any chance you tracked the plays without 3 points or did u give up on that?
                                                                      I gave up tracking without buying the 3 points. The first week I was actually betting the plays without buying the points, and cleaned up. Then the first 4 days of last week I went on a losing streak, by not buying the points. I started buying points again last Thursday, the 2nd, and it's been awesome ever since.

                                                                      You can still do this with buying 3 points at -170. That's what jolm and impper are doing, and it's working out rather well for them. In fact, for CBB, I do the numbers based on -170 (last night, I ran NBA also on -170, and ended up missing out on 4 additional games that I would've had by running the numbers at -165, which ultimately cost me an extra +3 units).
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                                                                      • impper
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 11-11-10
                                                                        • 490

                                                                        #945
                                                                        Some early plays in the NBA:

                                                                        Houston -3.5
                                                                        Bobcats +5.5
                                                                        Golden State +12
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