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  • Wallco99
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-01-11
    • 7261

    #2486
    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2012-13 System to date: 41-1 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +5.09 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.90 units)

    (1/22/13):
    #43 Boston (M/L) (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 24-19
    (B) 10-8

    (C) 7-1
    (D) 0-1
    Losses: HOU (-35.91 u)


    Games for (1/23/13):
    #43 Resumes (B) on 1/24/13
    #44 L.A. Lakers (+4) @ Memphis (A) (8:05 pm EST)
    #45 Indiana @ Portland (M/L) (A) (10:05 pm EST)



    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
    System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
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    • cubfan2121
      SBR High Roller
      • 02-24-08
      • 188

      #2487
      Originally posted by KennyM10
      Guys we won the Houston E bet. 80 units to win 1, boy are we sharp. Now we have alakers c 22 units to win 1, we are sharp again! Hey risking 100 units to win 2, we really are sharp. All we need to do now is add a wallco deluxe -800 favorite on the moneyline. Lucky a unit represents one penny for you tards.
      dude we get it
      let it go
      Its obvious you dont like walco's system
      simple solution - dont play it.
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      • knugen
        SBR MVP
        • 12-09-09
        • 2612

        #2488
        We need that lakers win tonight
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        • Wallco99
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-01-11
          • 7261

          #2489
          I took a chance and played the Oklahoma City series for 1-7-5, though not official. It panned out last night. Now we need Lakers.
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          • groovybrandone
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-22-12
            • 456

            #2490
            i did the same wallco, sad part is i thought the b bet there would win and had a 5 team parlay that came down to okc winning -_-
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            • MARCUS
              SBR Sharp
              • 06-19-09
              • 358

              #2491
              Originally posted by knugen
              +4 on lakers now, do u think that is enough?
              ..no,i have it at 7..like the un 189,bol.
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              • knugen
                SBR MVP
                • 12-09-09
                • 2612

                #2492
                lakers at +7, where?
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                • J.M. Disciple
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-16-10
                  • 5154

                  #2493
                  Originally posted by clamchowder
                  JM, do you labby your bets? If so, may I know what it looks like? I'm thinking about doing something like this 15-15-15-15 what do you think? The numbers are in dollars, not units. The Houston series wiped more than half of my BR. I need to redefine my betting strategy that's why I'm asking for your expertise or any experienced bettors.
                  Thanks in advance.

                  I forgot the post number, but I posted an excel file last week with last seasons results on the labby line. Just look for my post. Includes graph on sheet two if you want to see the variance using a labby.
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                  • J.M. Disciple
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-16-10
                    • 5154

                    #2494
                    Originally posted by knugen
                    lakers at +7, where?
                    official rules buying 3 points...
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                    • jackoffalltrades
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 10-15-12
                      • 55

                      #2495
                      Originally posted by KennyM10
                      Guys we won the Houston E bet. 80 units to win 1, boy are we sharp. Now we have alakers c 22 units to win 1, we are sharp again! Hey risking 100 units to win 2, we really are sharp. All we need to do now is add a wallco deluxe -800 favorite on the moneyline. Lucky a unit represents one penny for you tards.
                      The thing about sports betting, and you'll figure this out once you've been doing it longer, is that it is more about money management rather than winning or losing any one particular game or series.

                      Like anything else sports betting takes time, patience, and yes balls to make the big bets when you need to. I have a small initial betting unit. 1/1000th unit but I play a 2 or 3 of the best systems for every major sport. If you do this you can grind out profits, and have a hell of fun time doing it.
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                      • hagball52
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-10
                        • 3053

                        #2496
                        Originally posted by MARCUS
                        ..no,i have it at 7..like the un 189,bol.
                        didn't trust the lakeshow so i teased 'em w/jazz and kings on an 8 pt. teaser. got lakers +12
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                        • stevex
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-02-10
                          • 5122

                          #2497
                          JM Traditional

                          1/23/2013

                          V2

                          1. LA Lakers C Bet +4 @ Memphis Grizzlies
                          LA Lakers C Bet (with buying 3 points) +7 @ Memphis Grizzlies

                          V3

                          1. Detroit Pistons A Bet +6.5 @ Chicago Bulls
                          Detroit Pistons A Bet (with buying 3 points) +9.5 @ Chicago Bulls
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                          • thelimit0310
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-24-11
                            • 1233

                            #2498
                            7/5 Plays JAN 22

                            No Plays

                            7/5 Plays JAN 23

                            LA Lakers +4 vs Memphis - Bet 2

                            Results: +19.65
                            Bet 1: 14-12
                            Bet 2: 6-5
                            Utah 11/2
                            Portland 11/25
                            Boston 12/14
                            Houston 1/9
                            Minnesota 1/9


                            Have a Question about 7/5?
                            Click here for your Answer
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                            • cape07
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 06-08-11
                              • 55

                              #2499
                              Man i'm hating that i have 4 different system bets on the lakers tonight!
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                              • Huego
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 01-23-11
                                • 265

                                #2500
                                Howard quote from today: Dwight Howard: “I think this will be the start of a new season tonight. Our effort and energy will be better. It starts with me”


                                I have a good feeling about the lakers...let's get it.
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                                • samrock67
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-05-12
                                  • 647

                                  #2501
                                  Originally posted by Huego
                                  Howard quote from today: Dwight Howard: “I think this will be the start of a new season tonight. Our effort and energy will be better. It starts with me”


                                  I have a good feeling about the lakers...let's get it.
                                  You would they they're due...
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                                  • samrock67
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-05-12
                                    • 647

                                    #2502
                                    Although the fact that the Lakers are the worst away team ATS in the league is not doing much to comfort me...
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                                    • GoeGurt
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 09-13-12
                                      • 135

                                      #2503
                                      Originally posted by Huego
                                      Howard quote from today: Dwight Howard: “I think this will be the start of a new season tonight. Our effort and energy will be better. It starts with me”


                                      I have a good feeling about the lakers...let's get it.
                                      maybe a pro bet on dwight???
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                                      • cape07
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 06-08-11
                                        • 55

                                        #2504
                                        Btw... +5 for lakers on BetUs
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                                        • clamchowder
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-26-11
                                          • 471

                                          #2505
                                          Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                          I forgot the post number, but I posted an excel file last week with last seasons results on the labby line. Just look for my post. Includes graph on sheet two if you want to see the variance using a labby.
                                          Thanks JM. Lot of loves for the Lakers tonite. GO LAKERS!!!
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                                          • clamchowder
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-26-11
                                            • 471

                                            #2506
                                            JM - I found your spreadsheet, post # 2232 if anyone is interested. Per your spreadsheet, your starting BR was $4k and you ended up winning $4125.27 is that correct? You played single line and it went up to 12 digits? That's a lot to clear. Did you purchase 3pts for all your plays last season and do you purchase 3pts for all your plays this season? I know this question has been beaten into oblivion, sorry for the redundant question lol. Thanks.
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                                            • J.M. Disciple
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-16-10
                                              • 5154

                                              #2507
                                              Originally posted by clamchowder
                                              JM - I found your spreadsheet, post # 2232 if anyone is interested. Per your spreadsheet, your starting BR was $4k and you ended up winning $4125.27 is that correct? You played single line and it went up to 12 digits? That's a lot to clear. Did you purchase 3pts for all your plays last season and do you purchase 3pts for all your plays this season? I know this question has been beaten into oblivion, sorry for the redundant question lol. Thanks.
                                              The bankroll was just an example. These were not my personal bets, but a backtest I ran to see how the labby did. The labby itself is a hybrid of a labby to reduce the variance. The bankroll bankroll using a $100 unit size would be the lowest I would recommend going to deal with the variance.

                                              I used all lines at covers for the back test, all at (-110) not buying 3 points. I am sure the labby would of been much heavier if I had bought 3 points with the test via the juice.

                                              The $4,125 is the profit for the season, so ending bankroll would be $8,125. Notice the graph on sheet two and the variance you go through dealing with the labby, depending on bankroll of course. If you had a $10,000 bankroll and $100 unit size you could easily handle the variance.

                                              The labby I laid out is based on single line averaging. Also say you have 5 #s on your line, but the next day there are 3 games, I added an extra number to the line. For example, say you had 24-24-24-24-24 on your labby line, next day there are 3 plays. My new line becomes 20-20-20-20-20-20. Notice same amount of money in play. Takes a little longer to clear it this way, but eventually gets clear. At times you will see the labby go from 5 numbers to 8 numbers. Just my way of handling the variance via labby.
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                                              • dlunc3
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 10-31-09
                                                • 9129

                                                #2508
                                                Dwight hurt... Wonderful
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                                                • thelimit0310
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-24-11
                                                  • 1233

                                                  #2509
                                                  Originally posted by dlunc3
                                                  Dwight hurt... Wonderful
                                                  So much for that quote posted earlier!
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                                                  • jcygts6
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-05-09
                                                    • 3316

                                                    #2510
                                                    Another series lost. What a joke
                                                    DO WORK + KROW OD
                                                    do work! do work! do work! do work!
                                                    od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                                                    • ZigZagMan
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 10-02-12
                                                      • 11

                                                      #2511
                                                      Wow are the Lakers terrible. No depth whatsoever.

                                                      Happy to see the Celtics/Heat wannabes fall on their faces though.
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                                                      • ChiLLx
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-24-11
                                                        • 5412

                                                        #2512
                                                        It's been said before but the Lakers are pathetic
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                                                        • cubfan2121
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 02-24-08
                                                          • 188

                                                          #2513
                                                          lakers will top off 4th series loss this month alone
                                                          anyone know if the regular jm system, without the 3points, is in the red yet?
                                                          It has to be close with this loss
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                                                          • J.M. Disciple
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-16-10
                                                            • 5154

                                                            #2514
                                                            edit.. record below
                                                            Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 01-23-13, 10:32 PM.
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                                                            • J.M. Disciple
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-16-10
                                                              • 5154

                                                              #2515
                                                              Originally posted by stevex
                                                              JM Traditional

                                                              1/18/2013

                                                              V1

                                                              Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 27-1-1
                                                              Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 28-1
                                                              Current series pending: 0

                                                              V2

                                                              Current chase record W/OUT buying point: 13-2
                                                              Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 13-2
                                                              Current series pending: 0

                                                              V3

                                                              Current chase record W/OUT buying points: 32-2-4
                                                              Current chase record WITH buying 3 points: 37-2
                                                              Current series pending: 3 (Houston straight up)
                                                              Steve's record from the other day. You may be right on it being in the red... Lakers make 6 series losses this year if steve's record is correct.
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                                                              • cape07
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 06-08-11
                                                                • 55

                                                                #2516
                                                                NICE!!! 21 units lost for me today so far..... Good times!
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                                                                • clamchowder
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 02-26-11
                                                                  • 471

                                                                  #2517
                                                                  Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                                  The bankroll was just an example. These were not my personal bets, but a backtest I ran to see how the labby did. The labby itself is a hybrid of a labby to reduce the variance. The bankroll bankroll using a $100 unit size would be the lowest I would recommend going to deal with the variance.

                                                                  I used all lines at covers for the back test, all at (-110) not buying 3 points. I am sure the labby would of been much heavier if I had bought 3 points with the test via the juice.

                                                                  The $4,125 is the profit for the season, so ending bankroll would be $8,125. Notice the graph on sheet two and the variance you go through dealing with the labby, depending on bankroll of course. If you had a $10,000 bankroll and $100 unit size you could easily handle the variance.

                                                                  The labby I laid out is based on single line averaging. Also say you have 5 #s on your line, but the next day there are 3 games, I added an extra number to the line. For example, say you had 24-24-24-24-24 on your labby line, next day there are 3 plays. My new line becomes 20-20-20-20-20-20. Notice same amount of money in play. Takes a little longer to clear it this way, but eventually gets clear. At times you will see the labby go from 5 numbers to 8 numbers. Just my way of handling the variance via labby.
                                                                  JM - Than you for your thorough explanation, this totally makes sense. GL to you throughout this season and beyond.
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                                                                  • clamchowder
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 02-26-11
                                                                    • 471

                                                                    #2518
                                                                    Originally posted by cape07
                                                                    NICE!!! 21 units lost for me today so far..... Good times!
                                                                    I lost more than half my BR, we need a drink. Cheers bro.
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                                                                    • samrock67
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 05-05-12
                                                                      • 647

                                                                      #2519
                                                                      Ok, so I did some quick math and extrapolation of the 7/5 system based on how it has performed so far this year:

                                                                      Total JM series: 92
                                                                      JM 7/5 series: 26(28.2%)
                                                                      Bet 1 Wins: 14
                                                                      Bet 2 Wins: 6
                                                                      Losses: 6
                                                                      Total earnings: 128 units
                                                                      Total losses: 129.9 units
                                                                      Overall total: -1.9 units

                                                                      Using these percentages, the rest of the season would look as follows:

                                                                      Total JM series: 75
                                                                      JM 7/5 series: 21(28%)
                                                                      Bet 1 Wins: 11
                                                                      Bet 2 Wins: 5
                                                                      Losses: 5
                                                                      Total earnings: 102 units
                                                                      Total losses: 108.25 units
                                                                      Overall total(2nd half): -6.25 units
                                                                      Season total: -8.15 units

                                                                      Here are what some other totals would look like. I will state them in the following format: Bet 1 wins/Bet 2 wins/Losses = Total

                                                                      21/0/0 = +147u, +145.1 overall
                                                                      20/1/0 = +145u, +143.1 overall
                                                                      20/0/1 = +118.35u, +116.45 overall
                                                                      18/2/1 = +114.35, +112.45 overall
                                                                      18/1/2 = +87.7u, +85.8 overall
                                                                      16/3/2 = +83.7u, +81.8 overall
                                                                      16/2/3 = +57.05u, +55.15 overall

                                                                      and so on and so forth. There are a lot of combinations, I won't waste thread space listing them all. Needless to say the system has to perform phenomenally well for us to get a decent profit in the 2nd half. The last time the system profited less than 66 units overall dates back to the 2006-2007 season(+35.05u) and the 2 years before that saw the 2 worst years of the system(-19.5u in 2004 and +12.2 in 2005). I'm curious to see what the overall records have been for each season- thelimit do you have the records on this? If not, no big deal. I happened to hop on right before the Minny and Houston losses so I'm down 44u on this system. Frustrating, but I can handle it. The system has excellent backtesting results so you just gotta keep the faith and grind it out.
                                                                      Last edited by samrock67; 01-23-13, 11:29 PM. Reason: Math error
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                                                                      • 1gamer
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 02-09-11
                                                                        • 723

                                                                        #2520
                                                                        Definitely a Gut Check!
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