John Morrison 2012-13 NBA Thread

[KennyM10]

A D bet loss at -230 on Houston on the ML would be about 50-60 units, just think if real money was involved you guys would be broke! Nice job wallco wiping out a years profit on one game.

[KennyM10]

Wallco no one high fiving now that they have to reload.

[alexknyc]

Wallco no one high fiving now that they have to reload.

You'd know all about reloading, wouldn't you?

Takes a real douche to be happy at someone else's misfortune.

I'm sure your parents are proud. Do they know what you do with their computer in the basement?

[ChiLLx]

In defense of Wallco, I'm pretty sure this is only the 2nd system loss in the last 3 seasons unless I'm wrong.

[KennyM10]

In defense of Wallco, I'm pretty sure this is only the 2nd system loss in the last 3 seasons unless I'm wrong.

Look up his baseball thread from 2 years ago lost over 100 units
And he claimed to have sold that system before the year started what a fraud!

[cape07]

I still like Wallco's system.. Houston has been playing like shit though

[play4win]

A D bet loss at -230 on Houston on the ML would be about 50-60 units, just think if real money was involved you guys would be broke! Nice job wallco wiping out a years profit on one game.

i don't think that people are that dumb to bet on D bet worth -230 M

[KennyM10]

i don't think that people are that dumb to bet on D bet worth -230 M

Actually a good point, when he lost the -1500 earlier in the year he said exactly that but when the clippers won the next game he added in several units as a win! He was reeling you guys in till he lost it all as usual.

[BCC585]

Wallco no one high fiving now that they have to reload.

So Kenny, would you please show us your thread of posted plays? Or do you just have an account to post whenever a series loses?

[jackoffalltrades]

I only do 1/1000th of bankroll per unit so I'll probably do an E bet on Houston; hopefully the line will reflect how poorly they are playing. We rolled the dice and it came up craps. This is not the first time I've lost a series and wont be the last. The possibility of losing is what makes it interesting. If I want a sure thing, then I'll go work more hours a my job... but it's a lot less fun.

[knugen]

Nice 7 units win with the kings

[cambertos]

Actually a good point, when he lost the -1500 earlier in the year he said exactly that but when the clippers won the next game he added in several units as a win! He was reeling you guys in till he lost it all as usual.

Kenny that emoticon has got me hard bro, can you PM your deets?seeing as you love it when people lose, I'll come round and lose my shit all over you bra

[Kev the Brit]

In defense of Wallco, I'm pretty sure this is only the 2nd system loss in the last 3 seasons unless I'm wrong.

The system has been available to us for the last 2 full seasons and approx half of of the 2010/11 season, in which it went undefeated.

Last season (2011/12) Chase 110 lost 5 series:

#24 Cha; dates: 1/27 - 2/1 (they were the worst team ATS at that time)
#30 NOH; dates: 2/2 - 2/8
#61 Cle; dates: 3/28 - 4/3
#68 Sac; dates: 4/8 - 4/13
#70 Cha; dates: 4/12 - 4/16 (still the worst team ATS)

There was a total of 80 series* and the 5 losses amounted to at least -100 units. Therefore, the system lost at least 20 units last year. Anyone who avoided the worst team ATS would have made a small profit.

* Wallco stopped posting the games after the B Bet of the losing #70 (Cha). Family matters took over.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2012-13 System to date: 40-1 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +4.08 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(1/19/13):
#39 Minnesota (+5.5) (C) - Win
#40 Houston (M/L) (D) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 23-18
(B) 10-8
(C) 7-1
(D) 0-1
Losses: HOU (-35.91 u)


There are no system plays for (1/20/13)


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.

[Wallco99]

The whole Houston loss was an error on my part. We shouldn't have started the Houston series til the Minnesota series concluded, since they faced head-head after the B bets and Minnesota started their series first. I just missed it. Someone pointed it out, but we were already at the (C) bet at that point. The loss will still go on the system record since plays were posted as official, but in the future, plays like that won't appear in the system. It is in the rules for everyone to see, so I assume everyone else missed it as well, with the exception of that one person that I mentioned.

[rina23]

Wallco!

Sometimes people learn from the own failures, and will be rich, when others make failures.

[kodiaker]

The whole Houston loss was an error on my part. We shouldn't have started the Houston series til the Minnesota series concluded, since they faced head-head after the B bets and Minnesota started their series first. I just missed it. Someone pointed it out, but we were already at the (C) bet at that point. The loss will still go on the system record since plays were posted as official, but in the future, plays like that won't appear in the system. It is in the rules for everyone to see, so I assume everyone else missed it as well, with the exception of that one person that I mentioned.

That might have been me. I just ended up assuming that somewhere within the 50+ pages of this thread the head-to-head filter was abolished.

[Kev the Brit]

The whole Houston loss was an error on my part. We shouldn't have started the Houston series til the Minnesota series concluded, since they faced head-head after the B bets and Minnesota started their series first. I just missed it. Someone pointed it out, but we were already at the (C) bet at that point. The loss will still go on the system record since plays were posted as official, but in the future, plays like that won't appear in the system. It is in the rules for everyone to see, so I assume everyone else missed it as well, with the exception of that one person that I mentioned.

No worries. I checked the schedules this morning and it would have been very difficult (for me, anyway) to spot the problem. Houston lost their 3rd game on 1/12 and therefore potentially qualified as an A Bet for their next game, provided that there were no existing conflictions; there were none. So, I would have noted Houston on the spreadsheet and waited for them appear on a daily coupon within the next few days. In the meantime, a day later, Minnesota lost their 3rd game and potentially qualified as an A bet subject to existing conflictions; there was one: Houston. It could be argued that Minnesota should have then been passed due to Houston having already qualified for the A Bet. However, just to add to the problem, Minnesota then played their 4th game (A Bet) before Houston, thus reversing the priority, so to speak.

Had I not relied on Wallco (which I shouldn't do. Its my money, not his) my method of checking for picks would have erroneously identified Minnesota as the team to filter out. I believe I would have passed on them and continued with Houston. I was a dead duck anyway.

Lessons to learn:

1. Don't rely on anyone to tell you what to do with your money. Wallco's post should be treated as a "heads up" notice; nothing more.

2. JM series that fail and then go onto Chase 110 have not yet lost a series (since we started playing Chase 110, that is).

3. Choose a method of checking the picks that robustly filters out a team that is scheduled to play its A Bet game after a potentially conflicting team has played its A Bet game.

Every day is a school day, even Sunday...

[samrock67]

thelimit or anyone else keeping track-

What's the current profit status of the 7/5 system for this year's season? Thanks.

EDIT: I believe it's +33 units if I did my math right(I just used the records from the last thelimit post and added 7 units for last night's Sac win)

[MARCUS]

No worries. I checked the schedules this morning and it would have been very difficult (for me, anyway) to spot the problem. Houston lost their 3rd game on 1/12 and therefore potentially qualified as an A Bet for their next game, provided that there were no existing conflictions; there were none. So, I would have noted Houston on the spreadsheet and waited for them appear on a daily coupon within the next few days. In the meantime, a day later, Minnesota lost their 3rd game and potentially qualified as an A bet subject to existing conflictions; there was one: Houston. It could be argued that Minnesota should have then been passed due to Houston having already qualified for the A Bet. However, just to add to the problem, Minnesota then played their 4th game (A Bet) before Houston, thus reversing the priority, so to speak.

Had I not relied on Wallco (which I shouldn't do. Its my money, not his) my method of checking for picks would have erroneously identified Minnesota as the team to filter out. I believe I would have passed on them and continued with Houston. I was a dead duck anyway.

Lessons to learn:

1. Don't rely on anyone to tell you what to do with your money. Wallco's post should be treated as a "heads up" notice; nothing more.

2. JM series that fail and then go onto Chase 110 have not yet lost a series (since we started playing Chase 110, that is).

3. Choose a method of checking the picks that robustly filters out a team that is scheduled to play its A Bet game after a potentially conflicting team has played its A Bet game.

Every day is a school day, even Sunday...

...take your seat$ $tudents..new day new direction.

[thelimit0310]

7/5 Plays JAN 19

Sacramento -2 vs Charlotte - Bet 1

7/5 Plays JAN 20

No Plays

Results: +19.65u
Bet 1: 14-11
Bet 2: 6-5
Utah 11/2
Portland 11/25
Boston 12/14
Houston 1/9
Minnesota 1/9

Have a Question about 7/5?
Click here for your Answer

[thelimit0310]

samrock I added the unit count to the play posts, currently +19.65

[MARCUS]

samrock I added the unit count to the play posts, currently +19.65

..thank u limit

[cape07]

Who has the current units record for the 3 JM version Stevex?

[samrock67]

samrock I added the unit count to the play posts, currently +19.65

Then is my math off?

(14 wins * 7 units) + (6 wins * 5 units)/(5 losses * 19 units) = +38 units

Where did I go wrong?

[thelimit0310]

Then is my math off?

(14 wins * 7 units) + (6 wins * 5 units)/(5 losses * 19 units) = +38 units

Where did I go wrong?

Losses are -21.67. 128 (total from wins) - 108.35 (5 losses * 21.67) = 19.65 there is no division

If you keep a spreadsheet you can always look at it from game to game basis as well to verify your #s

[samrock67]

Losses are -21.67. 128 (total from wins) - 108.35 (5 losses * 21.67) = 19.65 there is no division

If you keep a spreadsheet you can always look at it from game to game basis as well to verify your #s

yea, my bad. I don't know why I put a division sign there. I forgot to factor in the -110, makes sense now. Thanks.

[cape07]

I just got an email from Morison...

There's a v2 bet on the lakers?

[samrock67]

I just got an email from Morison...

There's a v2 bet on the lakers?

Per the spreadsheet, yes...

And 2 more tomorrow- Pacers(V1) and Nets(V2)

[k310]

I just got an email from Morison...

There's a v2 bet on the lakers?

Confirmed on the spreadsheet attached to post #107 page 4.

[cape07]

Awesome thanks!

[kenny07]

Is there any sportsbooks that that will allow you to buy points for 1st half and 2nd half lines? If so, how many points can you buy up to? Thanks

[knugen]

A new 7/5 bet tomorrow on lakers

[J.M. Disciple]

Limit, Can you post the record for 7/5 for each season or overall record on your back test for bet1 and bet2? I looked at your link as well as last years thread, but do not see the record for those two post. I see the profit, but more intrigued by actual record.

Thanks
JMD

[Huego]

A new 7/5 bet tomorrow on lakers

Lakers are a mess right now. Let's see what the line is vs. Chicago. I'm probably going to skip this chase. Chicago and Memphis are the opponents. Both teams play very good defense and the Lakers have NO defense.