John Morrison 2010 NBA

[Spank]

Can someone explain this John Morrison email?

I bought into his system ($197) and am following his betting guidlines. Now, I am very new to sports betting, but I do understand how "variance" affects the ups and downs of probability, so I bet lightly. Anyway, as a newbie to betting and this forum, go lightly on me.

Concerning JM and his system... last weeks [A] bet was on Golden State vs Atlanta...I needed to place a bet on GSW (+6.5), (yeah, yeah I joined BetUS) and later saw it was +7 most everywhere else.
I followed his betting system and purchased 3 points. My bet was for GSW taking +9.5.
Final score was GSW = 93 ATL = 103

Got an email the next day saying this was another win, yet GSW lost by 10 points.

Here is a cut/paste of the email:

Yet once again, we cashed in with Golden State! That's 258 wins to
2 losses now since the 2006 NBA season! More to come...

Let's go pick up another winner!

Go to the link below to see our upcoming system bet(s):


Even if I had purchased 3 points anywhere else I still would of lost right?
Am I wrong? Could someone kindly explain how this was a win? or how it could be argued as a win by JM? I think I've got 60 days to cancel, (if I can) Sorry for my ignorance.

Thanks,

Spank

PS...Going to use this msg as a reply to other John Morrison posts elsewhere in the forum.

[Spank]

JM claims a win?

I bought into his system ($197) and am following his betting guidlines. Now, I am very new to sports betting, but I do understand how "variance" affects the ups and downs of probability, so I bet lightly. Anyway, as a newbie to betting and this forum, go lightly on me.

Concerning JM and his system... last weeks [A] bet was on Golden State vs Atlanta...I needed to place a bet on GSW (+6.5), (yeah, yeah I joined BetUS) and later saw it was +7 most everywhere else.
I followed his betting system and purchased 3 points. My bet was for GSW taking +9.5.
Final score was GSW = 93 ATL = 103

Got an email the next day saying this was another win, yet GSW lost by 10 points.

Here is a cut/paste of the email:

Yet once again, we cashed in with Golden State! That's 258 wins to
2 losses now since the 2006 NBA season! More to come...

Let's go pick up another winner!

Go to the link below to see our upcoming system bet(s):


Even if I had purchased 3 points anywhere else I still would of lost right?
Am I wrong? Could someone kindly explain how this was a win? or how it could be argued as a win by JM? I think I've got 60 days to cancel, (if I can) Sorry for my ignorance.

Thanks,

Spank

PS...Going to use this msg as a reply to other John Morrison posts elsewhere in the forum.

[Spank]

Is this really a win?

I feel pretty stupid in here with all you pro's

[chopperocker]

I feel pretty stupid in here with all you pro's

its not about who is the smartest. ur just lacking information at the moment. id recommend visiting this message board as often as possible and try to avoid pay services. but if u do use one try to get the information as to why ur making that play otherwise thier just throwing picks at u till their luck runs out and u run outta money. ALWAYS BUDGET FOR LOSSES!!!

[chopperocker]

i understand v.1

but how does v.2 work and v.3?

i used the NFL system but played the C Bet only and that went 3-0

I STILL DONT KNOW V.2 & V.3? HELP?

i was looking at the results for this season. if u made bet C regardless of already obtaining ur series win or not these play on teams are 23-10-1 70% without buying points. strong trend id say.

[dimon]

you would of push everywhere else...but as the previous poster told you...visit and READ about this system...and if you can RETURN it ASAP with clickbank you should be able to do it no ? asked...you will find it all here....GL

[J.M. Disciple]

If you Can Spank go back and read this thread from page one. It will really help. Ill give you a few tips with this post though that could sum up some of this thread.

1) John Morrison Stole the system from some one else and his Filters are BS. Us "pros" not me in particular know this.
2) John Morrisons "A bets" win 61% of the time over the past 10 years. If you buy 3pts you have to be able to win 63% of the time just to break even. There for you should skip all the "A wagers" and only bet on B and C wagers. For instance if you were to apply this system... if you started with A and made consecutive bets it would roughly be around 20 units. There for its best to bet around 6 units on B and cover your losses on C if it goes that far. It is less bets that you will with the system, but it works out mathmatically to be more profitable. See some of "Wilba's post" to see the math behind it.
3) V1 is betting teams that go on the road for 3 consecutive games against opposing conference; v2 is teams that go on the road for 2 out of the 3 games against opposing conference; and v3 is a team that goes on the road for 3 consecutive games and conference does not matter. All in all you should just bet on any team that is on the road for 3 consecutive games.
4) Most important rule of them all is to manage your money properly. As Wilba said never bet more then 25% of your bankroll on any one series. 1 unit = 1% of your bankroll. There for if you risk 6 or 7% of your bankroll after buying 3pts you will win on average 3 units. Then you will bet roughly 18 units on C if it goes that far. *once agian there is no A wagers cause they are unprofitable.
5) Google the LAbby system as another way of managing your money.
6) Get your money back from John Morrison if possible. A lot of us paid him and we dont even receieve Emails from him any more. There are spread sheets with all the games listed for his v1 v2 and v3 plays
7) Do not follow his Buffet plays. They are simply based off consensus of other pros and is not very profitable if at all. A lot of people have lost money following his Buffet picks.
8) Filters are BS besides the filter that says do not wager on a teams first series if it falls under their first 3 games of the season. The player injury filter, ML filter, are both BS filters.
9) There are other Pros on SBRforum you can follow. Most of us here follow 1) John Morrison NBA system / hockey system / mlb system 2) TPS system (consist of betting double digit under dogs with money line +500 or more and buying 3pts) 3) sports betting professor (another chase system that is depending on betting certain lines that win long run; you do not buy 3pts with this system) 4) Crusher.
*9) Most of these plays are posted daily under the service plays.

*We will or I will post most of their plays which are posted Early on this forum.

GL to you. I will also be posting a spread sheet for those newbies who still need to confirm emails with John Morrison lol. His Emails are a joke.

*You lost on GSW as most of the people did who also had GSW had +9.5. John Morrison goes off the highest line of the day. Later in the day the line changed to +7.5 right before game time i believe so he counted it as a win on his system. However, most of us dont even follow the A bets so it didn't matter. They still covered on the B wager.

[J.M. Disciple]

Spread sheet of upcoming and previous bets.

Heres a spread sheet for those who need it still for v1 v2 and v3 bets of the past and upcoming bets.

[J.M. Disciple]

Detroit is B bet for 01/03/11
Does Stanleys rule come into play at all on this series since they lost their last series?

[Kev the Brit]

chopperocker:

I STILL DONT KNOW V.2 & V.3? HELP?

go to page 72, post # 2518.

The quickest way to page 72 is to click on the little down arrow to the right of this page number.

And please don't forget to award the jphil some points

Regards
Kev the Director

[atari5200]

JM disciple, nice work on the spreadsheet, best one i've seen so far. the stanley rule meant that the first detroit series was a no go, but it's on, official and must win tonight or tomorrow.. I'd be a bit concerned about the lakers though, they've been so embarrassed recently. i think they'll come out hard tomorrow. Hopefully we'll take this tonight and forget all about it.

[bauerranch]

If you Can Spank go back and read this thread from page one. It will really help. Ill give you a few tips with this post though that could sum up some of this thread.

1) John Morrison Stole the system from some one else and his Filters are BS. Us "pros" not me in particular know this.
2) John Morrisons "A bets" win 61% of the time over the past 10 years. If you buy 3pts you have to be able to win 63% of the time just to break even. There for you should skip all the "A wagers" and only bet on B and C wagers. For instance if you were to apply this system... if you started with A and made consecutive bets it would roughly be around 20 units. There for its best to bet around 6 units on B and cover your losses on C if it goes that far. It is less bets that you will with the system, but it works out mathmatically to be more profitable. See some of "Wilba's post" to see the math behind it.
3) V1 is betting teams that go on the road for 3 consecutive games against opposing conference; v2 is teams that go on the road for 2 out of the 3 games against opposing conference; and v3 is a team that goes on the road for 3 consecutive games and conference does not matter. All in all you should just bet on any team that is on the road for 3 consecutive games.
4) Most important rule of them all is to manage your money properly. As Wilba said never bet more then 25% of your bankroll on any one series. 1 unit = 1% of your bankroll. There for if you risk 6 or 7% of your bankroll after buying 3pts you will win on average 3 units. Then you will bet roughly 18 units on C if it goes that far. *once agian there is no A wagers cause they are unprofitable.
5) Google the LAbby system as another way of managing your money.
6) Get your money back from John Morrison if possible. A lot of us paid him and we dont even receieve Emails from him any more. There are spread sheets with all the games listed for his v1 v2 and v3 plays
7) Do not follow his Buffet plays. They are simply based off consensus of other pros and is not very profitable if at all. A lot of people have lost money following his Buffet picks.
8) Filters are BS besides the filter that says do not wager on a teams first series if it falls under their first 3 games of the season. The player injury filter, ML filter, are both BS filters.
9) There are other Pros on SBRforum you can follow. Most of us here follow 1) John Morrison NBA system / hockey system / mlb system 2) TPS system (consist of betting double digit under dogs with money line +500 or more and buying 3pts) 3) sports betting professor (another chase system that is depending on betting certain lines that win long run; you do not buy 3pts with this system) 4) Crusher.
*9) Most of these plays are posted daily under the service plays.

*We will or I will post most of their plays which are posted Early on this forum.

GL to you. I will also be posting a spread sheet for those newbies who still need to confirm emails with John Morrison lol. His Emails are a joke.

*You lost on GSW as most of the people did who also had GSW had +9.5. John Morrison goes off the highest line of the day. Later in the day the line changed to +7.5 right before game time i believe so he counted it as a win on his system. However, most of us dont even follow the A bets so it didn't matter. They still covered on the B wager.

Thanks for helping the new guy. The most important thing for him now is try and get his money back from JM

BOL this year!

[isg2010]

JM - that makes it more attractive, right?

[Wallco99]

I bought into his system ($197) and am following his betting guidlines. Now, I am very new to sports betting, but I do understand how "variance" affects the ups and downs of probability, so I bet lightly. Anyway, as a newbie to betting and this forum, go lightly on me.

Concerning JM and his system... last weeks [A] bet was on Golden State vs Atlanta...I needed to place a bet on GSW (+6.5), (yeah, yeah I joined BetUS) and later saw it was +7 most everywhere else.
I followed his betting system and purchased 3 points. My bet was for GSW taking +9.5.
Final score was GSW = 93 ATL = 103

Got an email the next day saying this was another win, yet GSW lost by 10 points.

Here is a cut/paste of the email:

Yet once again, we cashed in with Golden State! That's 258 wins to
2 losses now since the 2006 NBA season! More to come...

Let's go pick up another winner!

Go to the link below to see our upcoming system bet(s):


Even if I had purchased 3 points anywhere else I still would of lost right?
Am I wrong? Could someone kindly explain how this was a win? or how it could be argued as a win by JM? I think I've got 60 days to cancel, (if I can) Sorry for my ignorance.

Thanks,

Spank

PS...Going to use this msg as a reply to other John Morrison posts elsewhere in the forum.

I have his emails sent directly to spam. The spreadsheets I have designed well illustrate his system much better than he does. The lack of knowledge about his own system that appears in his emails, can only confuse me of what I should be doing. Since Nov 11, he has at least 8 contradictory emails that defy the system he has laid out. BET.US.COM IS A SCAM. Get out of there first of all. You will always find better lines outside of there. He has burned me on several occasions. I didn't receive word that Nash was out, earlier in the season, until after the game was over. His next email said "See, that's why we use the best player out filter". This came one day after he told me to bet Phoenix. I could have looked at injuries myself, but at that point, I was naive and thought he was doing that. He did the exact opposite last month. Carmello Anthony was out, his email informed me of that, so I did not bet it. Denver won, and his email was "Great win with Denver, that makes us 10,000 and 0 now" or something to that effect. Had they lost, he would have said that it was a good thing we didn't bet it. He plays both sides of the fence waaaaay too often. He plays games that don't pass his filters, and passes on other games that do, Atlanta this week for example, no idea why that wasn't a play, but it was for me. If someone can tell me how to download excel sheets on here, I can post what I've created. It keeps track of all four sports, runing balances, it's color coded for wins and losses and green lights appear on team names the day you should be betting them. Once a year you fill in the data, in spaces I provide, and you will never need to here from him again. I just need a few days to add the V3 data, since I have just recently realized there is a V3. From my short time on this forum, I would say get your info. here, not from him. His system is pretty decent, especially hockey, but the problem is, he doesn't understand it.

[lawalahmed]

Heres a spread sheet for those who need it still for v1 v2 and v3 bets of the past and upcoming bets.

You can just apply this formular to cell 168 to know result so far: =SUM(H3:H165)

[mattd83]

You can just apply this formular to cell 168 to know result so far: =SUM(H3:H165)

Hmm... +2 eh? Kinda blows but I still think it's a solid system

[MakeItRain14]

Everyone on Detroit b bet today?

[Wallco99]

Heres a spread sheet for those who need it still for v1 v2 and v3 bets of the past and upcoming bets.

I noticed you stopped betting some series early and took the loss. Is that because of injured player or some other reason?

[million2one]

I am really liking Detroit +10 and then another 3 on top of that. Love it.

[Stanley77]

Detroit is B bet for 01/03/11
Does Stanleys rule come into play at all on this series since they lost their last series?

Yes, it does. But it's not necessary to buy 3 points here. If a team loses SU and ATS with 3-point buying on a previous 3-game series and has a next series coming up within a month after the losing series, that team will cover without the 3-point buying. As a 3-game road series, if they do not cover on the A bet, then they will cover on the B bet. But if that next series is at least a 4-game road trip, if they do not cover on the A and B bets, then they will cover on the C bet. Just remember that you don't have to buy 3 points in that next series.

An exception was the Houston Rockets from last season. They didn't cover one series but they beat the New Jersey Nets outright. But on their next series they covered all three games with the 3-point buying. Without the 3-point buying you would've lost that series.

[SilkBC]

3) V1 is betting teams that go on the road for 3 consecutive games against opposing conference; v2 is teams that go on the road for 2 out of the 3 games against opposing conference; and v3 is a team that goes on the road for 3 consecutive games and conference does not matter. All in all you should just bet on any team that is on the road for 3 consecutive games.

Does that mean that:

- All v1 games are also v2 games
- All v1 and v2 games are also v3 games

If so, if a series qualifies as both v1 and v2, do you play two betting series or just one?

Thanks! :-)

-SilkBC

[COYLO]

double post

[COYLO]

Does that mean that:

- All v1 games are also v2 games
- All v1 and v2 games are also v3 games

If so, if a series qualifies as both v1 and v2, do you play two betting series or just one?

Thanks! :-)

-SilkBC

[jmjj]

I asked this before and no one responded, but decided to play the series anyway. ATL vs - OKC, LA Clippers, and SAC?? How much better does a series look?!

Played 2x units than normal on this one and cashed in big with the B bet tonight.

yeah I guess no one could figure it out either but yep they bounced back after a slow start and got the job done I mean they were playing the Clippers and that team cant close anyone out lol

[J.M. Disciple]

I noticed you stopped betting some series early and took the loss. Is that because of injured player or some other reason?

This was before i accepted that Injury filter was BS. I was following most of the filters until recently. It wasn't until i started talking to Wilba that i through the filters out the door. I guess you can change the results of some of the series such as Phx or denver around to you see fit. To me im just concerned with from this point on.

[J.M. Disciple]

Does that mean that:

- All v1 games are also v2 games
- All v1 and v2 games are also v3 games

If so, if a series qualifies as both v1 and v2, do you play two betting series or just one?

Thanks! :-)

-SilkBC

I think I explained it pretty well. Let me try this one more time!

V1: A team goes on the road for 3 conescutive games against 3 teams of the opposing conference

v2: A team goes on the road for 3 consecutive games which 2 out of 3 road games are against opposing conference, 1 out of the 3 road games can be in same conference.

v3: A team goes on the road for 3 consecutive games and conference and division does not matter. Its simply a road trip.

v2 is different from v1 because it is only 2 out of 3 out of conference. v1 is differnt from v2 cause its 3 out of 3 out of conference. V3 is different cause all three teams can be from the same conference.

I hope this all makes sense now.

All three versions are profitable. So bet on all of them. I posted a spread sheet above with all the v 1 v2 and v3 games. Its really not that hard to follow.

[J.M. Disciple]

Also SPank if you want to post your spread sheet; look where you go to reply at, but instead of quick reply there is a big green button above quick reply box that says "post reply." In that post reply you will see a little paper clip that allows you to attach spread sheets or whatever else you need to attach.

GL

[J.M. Disciple]

+`1

[kdavis]

Detroit is B bet for 01/03/11 Does Stanleys rule come into play at all on this series since they lost their last series?

Yes, it does. But it's not necessary to buy 3 points here. If a team loses SU and ATS with 3-point buying on a previous 3-game series and has a next series coming up within a month after the losing series, that team will cover without the 3-point buying. As a 3-game road series, if they do not cover on the A bet, then they will cover on the B bet. But if that next series is at least a 4-game road trip, if they do not cover on the A and B bets, then they will cover on the C bet. Just remember that you don't have to buy 3 points in that next series. An exception was the Houston Rockets from last season. They didn't cover one series but they beat the New Jersey Nets outright. But on their next series they covered all three games with the 3-point buying. Without the 3-point buying you would've lost that series.

Stanley77, can you or someone else re-post or tell me where to find your Stanley Rules? Points will be awarded.

[Wallco99]

Also SPank if you want to post your spread sheet; look where you go to reply at, but instead of quick reply there is a big green button above quick reply box that says "post reply." In that post reply you will see a little paper clip that allows you to attach spread sheets or whatever else you need to attach.

GL

It was actually me asking, but thank you, I will look for that. I have recently been getting the "screw the filters" attitude myself.

[J.M. Disciple]

The highest line for Detroit today was +10.5 without buying points as covers.com listed. Now on betus the line is +8.5... I am thinking I should just skip this B bet other wise in order to get it at +13.5 I would have to buy 5 pts! In order to follow JM's rule of the highest line of the day of course.

TPS: GSW +13.5 [A bet]
SBP: Denver -6.5 [B bet[
JM: Detroit +13.5 [B bet[ *for who ever can still get this line after buying 3pts. Line has changed so much.
SJ55: I dont see nothing for him today.

[J.M. Disciple]

I will wager 2 units to win 1 unit on Detroit at +11.5 still. Have to ask yourself if everyone is betting on Utah why is the line dropping?

[J.M. Disciple]

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AjIgz0144ZI5dGpIeGFya1l3WmxKYXRzT3ZuTUdzYVE&hl=en#gid=2

This is a link to those who follow SBP and get confused to whether or not its an A B or C bet. The spread sheet always gets updated day by day.

This Year standings:
SJ55: +5 units

John Morrison: +43 units *Thats if we apply Stanely's rule of not playing the first series of a team that has another series within 1 month of that first series and only to play the 2nd series. (I might miss understand this rule).

TPS: I cant find his site. *if you bet double digit under dogs and buy 3pts still very profitable with out chasing. I think Wilba has the stats on it. I think +11 or greater was 61% with out buying 3pts.

SBP: +11 units *(Updated version I think is +11 units as well, but i do not have the spread sheet for it.)

[Stanley77]

Stanley77, can you or someone else re-post or tell me where to find your Stanley Rules? Points will be awarded.

Here it is.

Play the first four games of a team playing on a road series of at least 4 games. The bets are only A, B, C, and D. No E, F, G, H, etc. But as I said, I only play the C bets on teams playing exactly 3 road games and the D bets on teams playing at least 4 road games.

You can always check what everyone's posting. Just click on their account name and then click on "Find all posts by ...".

Anyway, like I said, you don't need to buy 3 points on a team if they lost a previous 3-game series SU and ATS. I wouldn't make the A bet on their next 3-game series or on the A and B bets on a 4-game series. I always play the next to last game on a series. So if it's a 3-game series, I play the B bet. If it's a 4-game series, I play the C bet.

[J.M. Disciple]

Football Crusher
Play of the Day:
Virginia Tech +3.5 over Stanford
(System Record: 36-3, won last 2 games)

Basketball Crusher
Play of the Day:
Orlando / Golden State under 211
(System Record: 38-1, won last 2 games)

Hockey Crusher
Play of the Day:
Chicago + Los Angeles UNDER 5.5
(System Record: 37-0, won last game)

I wanted to start following Crusher using the Labby system.
*he has a 4 game chase with out buying points.