I understand what v1 v2 and v3 are.... But which one would u consider the best to lay a few more $ on
crzychu submitted a set of stats (November?) that suggested that, over the last 5 years or so, V3 is the most reliable, then V2.
ps go to page 53, posts 1822 and 1824
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cmdyrds
SBR Wise Guy
08-20-09
522
#3082
guys,
not sure if anyone follows the TPS (triple play system) but i opened a new thread as the old one was closed for some reason. looking for some input as i don't subscribe but have the info pertaining to it.
Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
V1: 20-2
(A): 7-15
(B): 10-5
(C): 3-2
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
V2: 13-1
(A): 9-5
(B): 2-3
(C): 2-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03
Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).
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MakeItRain14
SBR High Roller
12-13-10
101
#3086
Ok thanks guys
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hagball52
SBR MVP
09-22-10
3053
#3087
Originally posted by krzychu78
Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
V1: 20-2
(A): 7-15
(B): 10-5
(C): 3-2
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
V2: 13-1
(A): 9-5
(B): 2-3
(C): 2-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03
Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).
Looks good to me. I've been tracking them also on a spreadsheet. Thanks for not filtering out the Phoenix loss like Morrison did. I like accurate numbers.
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GGPLAYER
SBR MVP
03-26-09
2985
#3088
Originally posted by krzychu78
Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
V1: 20-2
(A): 7-15
(B): 10-5
(C): 3-2
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
V2: 13-1
(A): 9-5
(B): 2-3
(C): 2-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03
Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).
Great breakdown and I agree with your findings. I have the V1 with Pho and Det, V2 was Minn and V3 Clev. 4 series loses is sort of scary. Is JM owning up to any of these? Just curious.
What I find more interesting is that based on these numbers it makes the most sense to bet the A bets for V2 and wait till a B with V1,V3. Just a thought.
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imotiv8
SBR Wise Guy
12-28-09
906
#3089
Originally posted by cmdyrds
guys, not sure if anyone follows the TPS (triple play system) but i opened a new thread as the old one was closed for some reason. looking for some input as i don't subscribe but have the info pertaining to it. http://forum.sbrforum.com/service-pl...ystem-tps.html
is detroit a b triple bet play on their next game?
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stevex
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-10
5122
#3090
Lets get these tn fellas. Raptors and Spurs.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3091
Originally posted by imotiv8
is detroit a b triple bet play on their next game?
Detroit was a C wager loss.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3092
If you all apply Stanely's rule of not betting the 1st series if the team has another series with in a month, then there is only 1 loss i believe this season.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3093
Originally posted by krzychu78
Guys, i think i will try keep tracking here V1, V2 and V3 records for the rest ot the season.
V3 is posted above. V1 and V2 are (only finished series):
V1: 20-2
(A): 7-15
(B): 10-5
(C): 3-2
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
V2: 13-1
(A): 9-5
(B): 2-3
(C): 2-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03
Do you agree with them? I didn't apply any filters (ML, injuries, best or worst team).
Apply stanely's rule and min would not be a series cause it was their first road trip of the season under the first 3 games. Ask Wilba about it, he knows more about the rule. It wouldn't count as a series.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3094
Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
01/05/11
V3: Toronto B +4
v1: San Antonio B +4.5
I should have waited until today to get my bets in.
New lines are better today than yesterday.
John Morrison
Toronto B +5.5
Spurs B +5
TPS
MIL +15 [A]
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COYLO
SBR MVP
10-18-10
2844
#3095
Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
I should have waited until today to get my bets in.
New lines are better today than yesterday.
John Morrison
Toronto B +5.5
Spurs B +5
that with buying the points??
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3096
Yes, thats with buying the points.
Also SBP has Milwaukee +12 [B] today.
Still waiting for updated version.
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COYLO
SBR MVP
10-18-10
2844
#3097
thanks j.m.
sbp is that sports betting professor?? whats his win/loss like?
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stevex
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-10
5122
#3098
Just so people don't have to go looking around and all that hard stuff
NBA CRUSHER: Clippers
SBP Original: Bucks
SBP Updated: Celtics
JM NBA: V.1 Spurs, V.3 Toronto
I didn't post the lines because depending on what book you use it might be a half point different, but there all dogs except the Celts. Lets get it tonight folks!
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SpookyFellow
SBR MVP
08-01-09
1687
#3099
Originally posted by JW Cash
Spooky....
The way I play Spurs is the same as I outlined in my previous post on how
I do the labby..
The A Bet is on Spurs ML on Line 1
If it loses.....I play B Bet on Line 2
and if it loses , I will play C Bet on Line 1.....with the money allocation
percentages I described...
AND J M Disciple.....I dont need any help in
questions that are directed at me.....ok? ...........just sayin
OK, on 12/29 John had Golden State Warriors as a V1 [A] bet. It was a win with buying 3 points, but a loss without buying 3 points.
Did you continue playing Golden State with your 2-line labby?
Continuing playing when John has officially considered a serie as finished could be a little risky.
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Kev the Brit
SBR MVP
10-25-09
2027
#3100
Originally posted by imotiv8
is detroit a b triple bet play on their next game?
I should have waited until today to get my bets in.
New lines are better today than yesterday.
John Morrison
Toronto B +5.5
Spurs B +5
TPS
MIL +15 [A]
I have seen SA at 2.5 today but not Tor??Did you just reverse those? I usually wait with dogs but have noticed with JM plays the line usually gets pounded down. Getting the Spurs with points is nice.
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Kev the Brit
SBR MVP
10-25-09
2027
#3102
V1: 20-2
(A): 7-15
(B): 10-5
(C): 3-2
Lost series:
PHO 11/17-20
DET 12/07-10
V2: 13-1
(A): 9-5
(B): 2-3
(C): 2-1
Lost series:
MIN 10/30-11/03
V3 record so far (finished series): 28-1
(A): 15-14
(B): 12-2
(C): 1-1
Lost series:
CLE 12/04-07
so, pulling it all together, we have:
65 series, producing
61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)
ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.
My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.
Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.
Kev
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SportsTerminator
SBR Hall of Famer
02-18-09
5179
#3103
Any word on Dirk Nowitzki? I would hate to get the early Oklahoma line, and then find out Dirk is playing later effecting the lines of course. Without Dirk I think the line may be Dallas -1 or -2 tough call here...
Bet To Win
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kjrudemi
SBR High Roller
12-20-10
105
#3104
Originally posted by JW Cash
I do a 2 line labby for every 3 game chase sequence I use...... I play the A Bet on Line 1 if the A bet loses I divide the loss and put 65% on Line 2 and the other 35% on Line 1 The reason is that the B Bet has a higher pct to win... I also divide a loss into all 4 variables of the line.... i.e. 10-10-10-10 10-10-10-10 If the A bet loses ....I have a $22 loss.... And 65% of the $22 loss goes to Line 2 and 35% goes to Line 1 12-12-12-12 13.57-13.57-13.57-13.57 If B Bet loses I have a loss of $29.85 I simply divide that loss by 50% and add it to the 2 lines and they look like this... 15.73-15.73-15.73-15.73 17.47-17.47-17.47-17.47 You can round those numbers up or down if you like.... My goal is to clear Line 1 TWICE before I increase my base wager.... So to clear Line 1 TWICE..means a Profit of $80.....so as I am playing my lines each day....and I see a profit of $80 after a day's games are tabulated...then I quit that particular labby regardless of how the lines look....... I start a NEW labby at 15-15-15-15 15-15-15-15 and you just ...wash..rinse..repeat... A labby is just a great way to use different bet sizes to accumulate a pre-determined profit goal... And yes.....if you are doing JM Crusher SBP Solaman.....etc... You should have a 2 line labby for each system you use... Hope This Helps....
JW, thanks for the info. I have one question. Let's say you win your B bet and now you have:
12-12-12-12
X-13.57-13.57-X
When you begin a new betting series, what labby lines do you begin with now? Do you begin over at 10-10-10-10 for both lines or do you carry what was previously left from that B wager win over and base the new series lines off that? Thanks for your help.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3105
Originally posted by Kev the Brit
so, pulling it all together, we have:
65 series, producing
61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)
ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.
My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.
Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.
Kev
I'm up money actually. You have to apply certain filters as i stated before. Ignore the mL filter and injury filter, but apply STANELY'S FILTER AND as wilba said dont bet on a team that has their first road series first 3 games of the series (Min would cancel that series). There for should be up around 30-40 units. And look to put in another 30-40 units by end of the season.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#3106
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#3107
Originally posted by Kev the Brit
so, pulling it all together, we have:
65 series, producing
61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)
ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.
My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.
Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.
Kev
...so you actually bet 18 Units on the dreaded C Bet.....
After everything you have read in this thread.....
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Wilba
SBR Wise Guy
10-29-10
702
#3108
Originally posted by JW Cash
...so you actually bet 18 Units on the dreaded C Bet.....
After everything you have read in this thread.....
Guess my grandma was right when she said.....
" Some people are way beyond help "
May she RIP.....
HE is talking about an 18 unit loss over the 3 game series, A. B, and C loss included.
If you only bet B/C you are up good money this season. I discussed this a week or so ago when I did the calculations showing where u at betting only B/C as compared to A/B/C (currently down 15 units for a/b/c (when you included the A losses from series pending), and up well over 10 units for B/C only, approximately)
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Wilba
SBR Wise Guy
10-29-10
702
#3109
Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
Detroit was a C wager loss.
Why would you state this when you are not even a subscriber / do not understand the system properly?
If you were either of these things you would know that detroit yesterday was a TPS 'B' loss yesterday, not a C
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Wilba
SBR Wise Guy
10-29-10
702
#3110
Besides, I am not sure I understand why anyone would dread a JM NBA sys C loss, ever. They have by far the best win % and are by far the best money making opportunities.
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Wallco99
SBR Hall of Famer
01-01-11
7261
#3111
Originally posted by GGPLAYER
Great breakdown and I agree with your findings. I have the V1 with Pho and Det, V2 was Minn and V3 Clev. 4 series loses is sort of scary. Is JM owning up to any of these? Just curious.
What I find more interesting is that based on these numbers it makes the most sense to bet the A bets for V2 and wait till a B with V1,V3. Just a thought.
Just Detroit, the rest didn't happen!
according to Mr. Wizard
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COYLO
SBR MVP
10-18-10
2844
#3112
what a nail biter sas v boston
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SportsTerminator
SBR Hall of Famer
02-18-09
5179
#3113
Boston still hasn't learned from last Championship... but it sure looked like the refs had Spurs JM B bet...
Bet To Win
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Wallco99
SBR Hall of Famer
01-01-11
7261
#3114
Originally posted by Kev the Brit
so, pulling it all together, we have:
65 series, producing
61 winners @ 1 unit = 61 units credit
4 losers @ 18 units = 72 units debit
result = 10 units loss (this is approx, depending on amounts risked in the lost series)
ummm, not good. Not much slack available in the next 95 series (all versions). We will probabaly lose another 1 or 2 more series, so we need to be prepared to lose another 40 units.
My forecast for this season: max profit 45 units.
Bottom line: if you want to win a reasonable amount this year, you're gonna have to pump up the value of your unit, but be careful. maybe increase it by half, something like that.
Kev
I still say not buying points is the most profitable, ran all the math for a few yaers. But some on here wish to disagree. I am not down as much as them. My losses are only 8 units/loss. I can lose twice as many bets as those paying 18 units/loss, which doesn't happen, and still have two units more than them. To each there own, no one is wrong unless they go bankrupt.
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JW Cash
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4453
#3115
...winna...winna.....Chicken Pot Pie..dinna......
Great wins on Toronto.....and....Spurs.....and yes.....Portland ( I didnt buy the 3 last night)
And the icing on the cake 2nite is Team Canada's Total Collapse in the World Juniors Gold Medal
game...