John Morrison 2010 NBA

[ghislaine]

JM works beautifully and I love this !!! I use labby for money management, it takes off the fear of those C bets
I play all versions and have not been buying points anymore, they almost never matter anyways !!
I want to thank Stevex, JM Disciple, dvb and even silly Kev the Brit ( You know what they say about boys and ponytails, horses and kicking ) for all the insight !! lets make money guys !!!

Loads of love all around !!

[ghislaine]

You Could Money line: Lakers, Dallas, and Pacers and get 1 to 1.17 on your money. All 3 teams should win pretty easily, but there are upsets in the NBA. As long as you win over 50% though on this Parlay it shows long term profit. My guess is that you win this bet 80% of the time.

I was also thinking about adding Bobcats to this, but 4 team parlays can be pretty risky at times.
Bobcats lost a close game vs Miami, they beat PHx, and They also lost a close one vs Utah. I think bobcats are an underrated team who are just not very good at closing vs good teams. Becareful with your Parlays.

Lakers, Dallas, Indiana safest parlay on the board right now ML.
BOL
*Im sticking strictly to the system even though i really like this parlay, i wont be playing it.

thanks for posting parlays here as well !!

[stevex]

ghislaine that's all this is about to increase profit and take the "risk" part of gambling out of the picture.

[knugen]

but guys, with a labby line.. say that u loose 4 bets in a row... even with a labbyline when the odds are only 1,5 like in JM system, so after 4 losing bets in a row, your bankroll is almost empty, or am i wrong??

[stevex]

Anyone get an official e-mail from JM on Chicago tn?

[krzychu78]

Chicago is in the middle of 7-game road series. They have won all three games so far (according to system rules) so there is no way it could be a system play tonight.

[knugen]

will anyone answear me?

[stevex]

knugen search 'labby' in the forum and you will come up with everything you need to know.

[knugen]

i know exactly how it works and everything, but all people in here talk about it like it is a gift from god and its impossible ti lose money with it... thats why i wonder?

[stevex]

Wonder what? I don't understand what your saying. It's simple, do the labby, make profit. The labby has been discussed time and time again on the forum. People need to use the search feature to there advantage.

[bandit bettor]

My Parlays for 23rd, NBA only tonight.

Chicago +12 (Buy 3 pts)
New York (Predict a blow out i took personally -4.5)
Dallas (Money line)

3.98 total line

like chi plus 12 dallas should romp but i like bobcats to win outright how can u predict a blow out??

WinPicks Platinum Page

Charlotte at New York Line: New York by 2.5 Over/Under: 205 Nov 23, 2010
Prediction Formulas

2 of your formulas are on Charlotte **** THE WORLD ROB3 0 of your formulas are on New York 1 of your formulas like the OVER ROB3 2 of your formulas like the UNDER BEAST **** THE WORLD
Key Trends

at New York Knicks by 2.5 Charlotte Bobcats O/U 205.0 Recommend New York Knicks are 14-6-0 O/U After 4 ATS Wins (2 -> 3.5) Over New York Knicks are 40-18-0 ATS After 4 Away (All Lines) New York Knicks New York Knicks are 5-15-2 ATS vs. Charlotte (All Lines) Charlotte Bobcats New York Knicks are 1-5-1 ATS vs. Charlotte (2 -> 3.5) Charlotte Bobcats Charlotte Bobcats are 17-8-0 O/U After 2 ATS Wins (2 -> 3.5) Over Charlotte Bobcats are 134-107-7 ATS After 1 Home (All Lines) Charlotte Bobcats Charlotte Bobcats are 134-110-4 O/U After 1 Home (All Lines) Over Charlotte Bobcats are 15-5-2 ATS vs. New York (All Lines) Charlotte Bobcats Charlotte Bobcats are 5-1-1 ATS vs. New York (2 -> 3.5) Charlotte Bobcats Head To Head Games

Situation SUR ATS Over/Under Charlotte when playing New York 11-11-00 (50.0%) 15-05-02 (75.0%) * 11-11-00 (50.0%) When the line was 2 -> 3.5 05-02-00 (71.4%) 05-01-01 (83.3%) 04-03-00 (57.1%) When Charlotte was on the road 03-08-00 (27.3%) 07-02-02 (77.8%) 06-05-00 (54.5%)
Date Away Score Home Score Line Who Covered Total Game went 01/07/2010 Charlotte 93 New York 97 New York by 3.5 New York 199.0 Under
12/20/2009 Charlotte 94 New York 98 New York by 4.5 Charlotte 196.0 Under
12/15/2009 New York 87 Charlotte 94 Charlotte by 5.0 Charlotte 196.0 Under
10/30/2009 New York 100 Charlotte 102 Charlotte by 1.5 Charlotte 195.0 Over
03/28/2009 New York 85 Charlotte 96 Charlotte by 6.5 Charlotte 206.0 Under
03/07/2009 Charlotte 114 New York 105 New York by 3.5 Charlotte 206.5 Over
12/30/2008 New York 93 Charlotte 89 Charlotte by 5.0 New York 206.0 Under
11/05/2008 Charlotte 98 New York 101 New York by 4.0 Charlotte 204.0 Under
04/09/2008 Charlotte 107 New York 109 New York by 2.0 Charlotte 208.5 Over
02/27/2008 Charlotte 89 New York 113 New York by 7.5 New York 197.5 Over
12/21/2007 New York 95 Charlotte 105 Charlotte by 6.0 Charlotte 192.0 Over
04/18/2007 New York 94 Charlotte 93 Charlotte by 10.0 New York 202.5 Under
01/31/2007 New York 87 Charlotte 104 Charlotte by 3.5 Charlotte 200.0 Under
01/12/2007 Charlotte 126 New York 110 New York by 6.5 Charlotte 199.5 Over
12/20/2006 Charlotte 109 New York 111 New York by 4.0 Charlotte 191.0 Over
04/17/2006 Charlotte 98 New York 91 New York by 2.0 Charlotte 201.0 Under
03/11/2006 New York 109 Charlotte 116 Charlotte by 2.0 Charlotte 203.0 Over
11/23/2005 New York 95 Charlotte 108 Charlotte by 3.0 Charlotte 185.5 Over
04/16/2005 New York 100 Charlotte 98 New York by PK New York 201.5 Under
02/13/2005 Charlotte 99 New York 102 New York by 9.0 Charlotte 195.5 Over
12/26/2004 Charlotte 82 New York 91 New York by 9.0 Charlotte 196.0 Under
12/04/2004 New York 101 Charlotte 107 New York by 4.0 Charlotte 195.0 Over

ATS Summary

The Prediction Formulas favor Charlotte The Key Trends favor Charlotte The Head to Head games favor Charlotte
WinPicks recommends Charlotte as a Platinum Pick
Over/Under Summary

The Prediction Formulas favor the UNDER The Key Trends favor the OVER The Head to Head games have no opinion
WinPicks has no recommendation on this game
If all 3 methods agree, then WinPicks recommends a Platinum Pick. If 2 agree, and 1 has no opinion, then its a 'strong play'. If 2 agree, and 1 is opposed, it's a 'possible play'. Otherwise, no recommendation is made.

[knugen]

Wonder what? I don't understand what your saying. It's simple, do the labby, make profit. The labby has been discussed time and time again on the forum. People need to use the search feature to there advantage.

I wonder how u can ay that it's almost impossible to lose money with à labby? If u lose 4 or 5 bets in à row, then u are almost broke.. Im i wrong ?

[stevex]

You still have to use money management even while doing a labby....

[isg2010]

Any word on John Wall for tonight's game?

[J.M. Disciple]

Yes the Labby does make money! (even though i do not use it) I choose to have a more flawless record rather then make more profit lol! I guess im being stubborn by not using the labby.

Yes if you lose 4 or 5 bets with the system it will basically wipe out your bankroll. Which is exactly why its a system because it does not lose 4 or 5 bets 4 or 5 bets using proper managment and stopping at the C wager for a loss and starting over at "A Level" will only wipe out about 50% of your bankroll. You will still end up making money on the system.

I heard nothing about John Wall yet. I'm going to search it right now, but the spread does not appear to be changing so I am going to assume John Wall is out tonight.

[Kev the Brit]

ghislaine, apologies for my mistake, even though I did add an impish wink to my ill-conveived banter. I haven't yet used the labby method and I wrongly interpreted your math such that I thought you said to add $50 to $25 and came up with $85. I now know that the $85 is the lost stake money.

Hangs head...

Regards to all
Kev the Silly (well, for a night or so anyway)

[qwerty123]

wall game time decision but iguodala back in. lets go philly!

"Saunders at pregame; Wall is still a game time decision. Saunders said he would come off the bench if he does play."

http://twitter.com/WashWizards/status/7201431471783936

[isg2010]

I guess it really doesn't matter anyways since the play is on the other team.

[nivekk1400]

i dun think its gonna work

[Wilba]

I wonder how u can ay that it's almost impossible to lose money with à labby? If u lose 4 or 5 bets in à row, then u are almost broke.. Im i wrong ?

no you are not wrong, as long as things are going anywhere between pretty bad and good (like winning at least 40% of your bets) labbys are very good. However in the event of a REALLY bad run you are really up sh*t creek if you follow a labby strictly. It only takes 4 losses at odds of -170 for your labby to look like this (with starting labby portions of 50-50-50-50)

50-50-50-50-170-374-720.8-1310.36

so thats a total risked of $2575 in the attempt to win a labby line of $50's. That would make your 5th bet $2312 to win $1360. (which would mean you have outlayed ~5K over 5 bets in the attempt to win 200. And dont forget that at this point, you have to win 5 straight bets just to clear the line and get your $200 profit.

Labbys are great but important to be aware of the liability over a bad losing streak, and to make the 'TO WIN' amounts of an according size so your roll can withstand lose streak like this. Dont think a losing streak like this will never happen to you, coz I guarantee that it will at some point!

Much the same as martingale, the key to labby is good money management. Use it wisely and the labby is very good. Use it blindly and it can hurt you big time

[JW Cash]

If someone loses 4 or 5 games on a labby and the line looks like this...


50-50-50-50-170-374-720.8-1310.36


...there are several options...

First of all.....running a 2 or 3 line labby for 3 game chase sequences is the ideal way to go....

and no one is saying you HAVE to make a 5th bet of $2312 to win $1360...

If your labby lines are increasing too large ......just divide the risk....
or add additional lines...


once this labby line got to....50-50-50-50-170

you could have adjusted it to

67-67-67-67-67
67-67-67-67-67

Next wager is to win $134...instead of $220 as in the previous example....

If you suffer additional losses...you just need to reduce your risk..by
adjusting the lines accordingly.....it might take longer to clear your lines
but that is a small price to pay for stress free wagers....

You are in control of your labby lines...they DO NOT control you...

If a particular wager is too high for you.....Dont make it....simply adjust you lines...


Also...you lines wouldnt get as dramatic as in the previous example
if you were NOT making wagers at -170.......but simply making them at -110

Which means that IMO..its not worth it to lay such HEAVY juice to buy 3 points...

The previous example shows how foolhardy it is to buy the points ...you see
what it does to your labby lines....



So are labby lines a Gift from God ???

No, I think that title belongs to Faith Hill.....



Hope this helps....

[J.M. Disciple]

I guess it really doesn't matter anyways since the play is on the other team.

Even with the spread on the other team a player on the opposite team will effect the spread. With Point guard out for wizards then instead of spread opening at +2.5 It might go up to +3.5 with John Wall in. When you are placing your bets you should consider both teams not just your own.

I am not saying you shouldn't bet on the game if JOhn wall plays or doesn't play. I'm just saying when this is the case some times its best to wait until game time to place your bet in order to see if you can get an extra point on the spread in your favor.

The Laker, Dallas, Indiana Parlay i mentioned earlier in this thread seems to be easy win so far. Indiana wins in a blow out. Dallas blowing out Detroit 1st qrt still. Lakers will be a tough game vs Chicago even though the spread is -8. Bulls have a tough schedule hence their record. Should be a good game.

Looking for the bobcats to come back 2nd half to see a good game. They are lacking some defense right now.

And the only thing that matters for today is:
Philly up 4pts end of the 3rd, so as long as they dont give up more then 9pts in the 4th we shall all win out "v3 A bet."

[J.M. Disciple]

OMG I jynxed it! John Wall got fouled with 3.5 seconds left on the clock shooting 6 ft behind the 3pt line. He came out clutch 3 for 3 with his free throws to tie the game. Its now going to over time. At one point philly had a run beg of the 4th and now they ended up blowing a 11pt lead in the 4th!

BOL PHilly +5.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crazy game

[Wilba]

If someone loses 4 or 5 games on a labby and the line looks like this...


50-50-50-50-170-374-720.8-1310.36


...there are several options...

First of all.....running a 2 or 3 line labby for 3 game chase sequences is the ideal way to go....

and no one is saying you HAVE to make a 5th bet of $2312 to win $1360...

If your labby lines are increasing too large ......just divide the risk....
or add additional lines...


The previous example shows how foolhardy it is to buy the points ...you see
what it does to your labby lines....


So are labby lines a Gift from God ???

No, I think that title belongs to Faith Hill.....


Hope this helps....

Hey JW - yep I do not disagree with what you are saying at all, please note that I was careful to say "if you follow a labby STRICTLY you can be up sh*t creek..."

which is why I made that point that if you use it wisely it is less risky and a very good tool for making money. However you can't deny that no matter how you manage your labby (split lines etc), in the event of a really bad losing streak, they can get out of hand very quickly. All a labby is, is a martingale where instead of doubling up each play, you increment the next play by x amount, so any system like that (whether it be martingale or labby) will reach a critical point where it gets out of hand after so many losses. Labby is only a more conservative version of martingale.

Having said that, I do not disagree with your point above! and I am not saying labbys are not great, coz they are! just saying to those unfamiliar with them that although they are very good when used right, you must be careful with them also, just the same as you have to be careful with any scheme which involves ramping up your bet amount after every loss.

I would disagree with you on the not buying 3 points though, only reason I would say this is because I actually backested 6 years and surprisingly found that it was more profitable buying the points, whether you chased or just played straight up each bet. (I was very surprised at this btw, as I used to think the 3 points were a massive waste of money too. They still feel like a waste of money but I buy them coz u cant argue with stats)

cheers

[J.M. Disciple]

WEEEEEEEEEEE V3 A bet wins 116 wizards to 114 Philly.

Next Bet 11/24/2010 Golden State [A] vs Houston; v3.
Golden State is on a 3 game losing streak and only has one push on the spread over their last 7 games.
Houston: 1-4 ATS at home. 4 game losing streak and also has not covered the spread their past 4 games.

Covers.com has the spread listed at +5.5 for the warriors right now, so I really like this series with the warriors especially the A bet being +8.5.

[JW Cash]

Hey JW - yep I do not disagree with what you are saying at all, please note that I was careful to say "if you follow a labby STRICTLY you can be up sh*t creek..."

which is why I made that point that if you use it wisely it is less risky and a very good tool for making money. However you can't deny that no matter how you manage your labby (split lines etc), in the event of a really bad losing streak, they can get out of hand very quickly. All a labby is, is a martingale where instead of doubling up each play, you increment the next play by x amount, so any system like that (whether it be martingale or labby) will reach a critical point where it gets out of hand after so many losses. Labby is only a more conservative version of martingale.

Having said that, I do not disagree with your point above! and I am not saying labbys are not great, coz they are! just saying to those unfamiliar with them that although they are very good when used right, you must be careful with them also, just the same as you have to be careful with any scheme which involves ramping up your bet amount after every loss.

I would disagree with you on the not buying 3 points though, only reason I would say this is because I actually backested 6 years and surprisingly found that it was more profitable buying the points, whether you chased or just played straight up each bet. (I was very surprised at this btw, as I used to think the 3 points were a massive waste of money too. They still feel like a waste of money but I buy them coz u cant argue with stats)

cheers

I do on occasion buy the 3 pts....but I restrict it
to Away Favorites....

..i.e. New Orleans the other night when they were
favored by 4.5...and ended up winning by 4...

That would have been a very good time to buy the extra 3 or
just take them on the ML..which is what I wished I did.....

[J.M. Disciple]

Can someone tell me if JM has any more systems?

I know he has a NHL, MLB, NBA, and NFL, but does he have a wnba or other systems are good to follow.

*I will not be following the NHL system even though it makes money with the v1 system 1 series will potentially wipe out your whole bankroll due to NHL juice and I do not need that kind of risk right now. He has a lot of series for NHL and it only profits about 20 units for a season.

[JW Cash]

Can someone tell me if JM has any more systems?

I know he has a NHL, MLB, NBA, and NFL, but does he have a wnba or other systems are good to follow.

*I will not be following the NHL system even though it makes money with the v1 system 1 series will potentially wipe out your whole bankroll due to NHL juice and I do not need that kind of risk right now. He has a lot of series for NHL and it only profits about 20 units for a season.

JM is not the only guy to have "systems".....

[J.M. Disciple]

I just follow his cause that is what im familiar with. Also i cant have too many systems going on at once cause most bankrolls wont allow for 2 or 3 possible C bets on the same day. Im curious to what other systems you follow though. Please do enlighten me with some systems as well as past results if you have them. If you dont ill research them and hopefully i dont run into a bunch of people hatting on others who are making money using systems.

Has anyone ever tested this morrison system where instead of betting on 1 game of the series and stopping once you have one the series, but continue to bet on the same series once you have won.

What I am saying is bet on all the 3 game road games series, but Just bet the same amount on each game and check the win % of it. Ill do some testing for it later on for this year and see how the teams matched up up buying 3pts of course. I think it should show a pretty good profit, but that is just a guess.

[jordanfreak]

I just follow his cause that is what im familiar with. Also i cant have too many systems going on at once cause most bankrolls wont allow for 2 or 3 possible C bets on the same day. Im curious to what other systems you follow though. Please do enlighten me with some systems as well as past results if you have them. If you dont ill research them and hopefully i dont run into a bunch of people hatting on others who are making money using systems.

Has anyone ever tested this morrison system where instead of betting on 1 game of the series and stopping once you have one the series, but continue to bet on the same series once you have won.

What I am saying is bet on all the 3 game road games series, but Just bet the same amount on each game and check the win % of it. Ill do some testing for it later on for this year and see how the teams matched up up buying 3pts of course. I think it should show a pretty good profit, but that is just a guess.

Thanks jm dis

[maxcraft]

just saying..

[jordanfreak]

Whats the next v1 bet?

[ghislaine]

You Could Money line: Lakers, Dallas, and Pacers and get 1 to 1.17 on your money. All 3 teams should win pretty easily, but there are upsets in the NBA. As long as you win over 50% though on this Parlay it shows long term profit. My guess is that you win this bet 80% of the time.

I was also thinking about adding Bobcats to this, but 4 team parlays can be pretty risky at times.
Bobcats lost a close game vs Miami, they beat PHx, and They also lost a close one vs Utah. I think bobcats are an underrated team who are just not very good at closing vs good teams. Becareful with your Parlays.

Lakers, Dallas, Indiana safest parlay on the board right now ML.
BOL
*Im sticking strictly to the system even though i really like this parlay, i wont be playing it.

yup, I played this even if You did not, and won all !! so many thanks for this sure thing

[jordanfreak]

just saying..

Can I ask you something?

Who would be stupid/dumb enough to send somebody money that they don't even know. Also without knowing who its going to as well as how or what way its coming back?

I don't care what you say that douche bag deserved to get jacked for 8,000

[maxcraft]

Hey jordanfreak.. seriously, who are you? I think you are John Morrison himself.. protecting this disgusting scam.. what a disgrace..