So John says next bet is on 24th, but the spreadsheet by dvb says 28th Ind & Por. Wonder what game Morrison is talking about...
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ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
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#1331Comment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
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#1332A ???? for Stevex, dvb and JW Cash.
So now I am doing the labby and it makes beautiful sense, and I have new found confidence in my betting thanks to it as well...
but as I bet to win a certain amount, my question is, do You guys buy points ??? because they can get costly when betting to win a certain amount. many thanks for everything, and talk to You when we get new series going !!!Comment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#1333Opening odds for New Orleans: -5 (V3 A bet).Comment -
mitchpSBR High Roller
- 07-29-10
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#1335I will double check my spreadsheet to make sure it's correct - will advise if I find an errorComment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#1336Chicago won on 11/16 with Houston. It was V1 A bet. We play only three first games every series so CHI@LAL on 11/23 is no play.
Next V1 plays are Indiana and Portland on 11/28.Comment -
mitchpSBR High Roller
- 07-29-10
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#1337The listing I have on my spreadsheet (Chicago 11/23), is the 4th game on an extended road trip. For those of you that want to play it, it would be an A bet. This would be the second half of a 6 game road trip.Comment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#1338There are some V3 plays also:
New Orleans today,
Philadelphia on11/23,
Golden State on 11/24,
San Antonio on 11/28.Comment -
SilkBCSBR Rookie
- 05-22-10
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#1339
-SilkBCComment -
Stevier100SBR Rookie
- 11-19-10
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#1340You are right about Labby being probably the correct way to do JM bets, however the description you posted implies that you start by betting $20 on a game; when using odds lower than evens, you actually have to bet to *win* $20, which is how I believe JW et al are doing it.
-SilkBC
This is pasted here exactly how it was posted from another site, I haven't changed anything and none of it is my explanation as I've never bet like this before and asked in this thread what the experienced bettors thought of this system!!
I think each person interprets the way they bet differently to the way they stake and most labby players do not buy points because its not a 3 system bet but an ongoing way of managing your bank without the losses building up as JM cannot be trusted to be truthful with all the losses he has and is very subjective!!
The Juice as you call it is also built up and put into the line as well i believe!!
Best Regards
Steve
Here's a really interesting link to read about Labby and using it!!
Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
Credit to edh1011 for explaining everything!! :-)Comment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
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#1341
soooo, I took the New Orleans bet, but does not show on my spreadsheet... Could You maybe post the next game on this series should this first lose... many thanks !!Comment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#1342
New Orleans
11/21/10 Sun @ Sacramento
11/22/10 Mon @ L.A. Clippers
11/24/10 Wed @ Utah
Philadelphia
11/23/10 Tue @ Washington
11/24/10 Wed @ Toronto
11/26/10 Fri @ Miami
Golden State
11/24/10 Wed @ Houston
11/26/10 Fri @ Memphis
11/27/10 Sat @ Minnesota
San Antonio
11/28/10 Sun @ New Orleans
11/30/10 Tue @ Golden State
12/01/10 Wed @ L.A. Clippers
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
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#1343I haven't heard any talk about the v3 system in this thread. I understand the v1 and v2 system, but completely unfamiliar with the v3 system. Can someone explain it to me please?
How did the v3 system do last year?Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
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#1344Same Rules apply to V3? Buy 3pts? ML if team is -3 or more? Dont bet if starting player is out? Dont bet if their previous game was on the road?Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
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#1345V3 is just a team going on the road vs the same conference? Is there any other criteria for this? What is V3s record this year?Comment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#1346The rules and filters in V3 are the same as in V1 and V2. Only differencies are:
V1 - we bet when all three teams from opposite conference,
V2 - we bet when at least two teams are from opposite conference,
V3 - we bet any three teams.
V3 is 7-0 so far this season, there will be about 63 more plays.
Past seasons were:
V3 2009/2010: 67-2
V3 2008/2009: 59-1
V3 2007/2008: 63-1
V3 2006/2007: 63-3
V3 2005/2006: 63-7
V3 2004/2005: 64-1
I've backtested those seasons so far. I'm going to do some more research.Comment -
jordanfreakSBR High Roller
- 10-30-10
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#1347Sorry I havent been keeping up with you people lately but can someone please pm me and explain how a labby works?
to tell you the truth i dont even know what the heck a labby is can someone please help me out and explain all the details about itComment -
mitchpSBR High Roller
- 07-29-10
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#1348All,
I went back and re-read the rules, and the game I'm showing on my spreadsheet on 11/23 is not a play. You are only suppose to play the first three cross conference games on a road trip. Sorry for the error. I will try to catch these mistakes in advance and warn all.
Thanks
mitchComment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
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#1349I inserted the v3 plays for this month that were listed above. Does anyone have a spread sheet with the v3 players included? I have DVBs V1 and V2 spread sheet already.
Jordanfreak scroll through the pages on this thread and you will see the Labby explained at least 5 times.
*I started late in the season but i believe all systems combined (v1, v2, and v3) the system is just about even now after the v2 series loss and only counting A bet vs the last phx series on v1 (if you follow the rules strictly). Assuming you win 1 unit per series. V2 series loss was about 16 units right? The Phx was a 3 unit loss so 19 units lost from those 2 series. If V3 is 7-0 then that would put the series up 4 units correct?
V1 sytem: 11-1 (+8 units) *3 unit loss PHX
v2 system: 6-1 ( -11 units) *10/30/2010 lost series with minnesota
v3 system: 7-0 (+7 units)
Is my Record Correct? Can someone please List the previous 7 V3 series so i can add them to my spread sheet.Comment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#1350
Charlotte
10/30/10 Sat @ Milwaukee - lost
11/03/10 Wed @ New Jersey -win
Memphis
11/02/10 Tue @ L.A. Lakers - lost
11/03/10 Wed @ Golden State -win
Cleveland
11/05/10 Fri @ Philadelphia -win
LA Clippers
11/05/10 Fri @ Denver -win
Minnesota
11/07/10 Sun @ Houston -lost
11/09/10 Tue @ L.A. Lakers -win
Toronto
11/12/10 Fri @ Orlando -win
Portland
11/12/10 Fri @ Oklahoma City -winComment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
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#1351There are about 60 v3 series bets, 20 v2 bets, and around 75 v1 bets per season correct? Possibly 150 units gained for NBA season alone if it goes undefeated. It would have to lose 9 or 10 series not to shown a profit in the NBA.
Also his NFL system is 5-0 so far this year. I'm not sure how many possible bets he has per season with this but im going to start following it as well.
There was a thread for the NHL plays, but i cant find JM's official site for NHL. If someone can link me i would appreciate it (maybe give points). I believe his record this year for Hockey is 20-0 and his v2 is 34-0 so 54-0 this season i read some where. So if We were following his NBA, NHL, and NFL we would be up 63 units so far. Gotta love his system. People need stop hating on him calling him a "scammer." I never understood how people call it a scam if it makes money.
I even had one guy say its a scam even after showing him all the results and money it makes.
*someone link me to the NHL record / site please and thank youComment -
jordanfreakSBR High Roller
- 10-30-10
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#1352I am confused how the labby works i looked at post 1319 and im still confusedComment -
cmdyrdsSBR Wise Guy
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#1353in jm's email this morning about not playing the suns because nash is out he says the next play is 11/24. i only subscribe to version 1 and i'm not sure there is a play on the 24th. does anyone else have a version 1 play on wednesday?Comment -
krzychu78SBR Sharp
- 01-08-10
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#1355
He never will admit that there are some lost series in his systems. Best example: Minnesota that lost series in the beginnig of the season. It was official V2 bet. And what was JM's answer? He said that MIN was posted as a play becouse of some "computer glitch". So it means whole V2 version is a glitch or what?
He makes all those funny stupid excuses everytime his game losts.
BTW, NHL is something like: V1: 16-0, V2: 24-4. Four loses is a disaster. Remember that odds in NHL are much lower than in NBA.Comment -
jordanfreakSBR High Roller
- 10-30-10
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#1356Does anybody know the record so far with wins without buying points for the V1,V2 and V3 system picks?Comment -
stevexSBR Hall of Famer
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#1357From what I've gathered, you've only needed to buy the 3 points one time this year. I think it was the [B] bet in the Memphis series?Comment -
jordanfreakSBR High Roller
- 10-30-10
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#1358Thats not bad at all steve, do you buy points?Comment -
maxcraftSBR Wise Guy
- 11-15-10
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#1359John Morrison is a scammer... Guys don't listen to him...Comment -
jordanfreakSBR High Roller
- 10-30-10
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#1360Get the out of here max, we dont need your negativityComment -
jimbob03SBR Rookie
- 06-23-10
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#1362no idea how this works
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ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
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#1363thanks for the games, krzychu78 good man !! and we won, sent You generous amount of points !! love You allComment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
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#1364
listen I had the same problem, but found this on this thread and I think it is the most clear, so basically, when You lose You add to the line and when You win, You take off it. The next bet is always to win what You lost in the last and it divides the losses over a couple next plays, so no HUGE C bets. I am loooooving the labby, I no longer shake in fear when going to C bets, its great, steady growth in my bankroll man !! here You go... ( some might do 3 line labbys and such, but this really is the simplest and works out just beautiful !! )
sorry if I am using somebodys explanation, note this is not mine !!!!! just here in the thread...
First bet is on the 13th - Dallas against Detroit. According to his new rules, if Dallas is the dog, you take the points. If Dallas is favored, you take the ML. Personally, I'm not going to play by his new rules - I will stick to just betting the spreads, and buying the 3 additional points.
As for the labouchere money management system, this is what I do. Take your starting bankroll. Let's say it's $1,000. Take 5% of this, which is $50. Cut that in half, and set up a line like this:
25 - 25 - 25 - 25
Now, for your 'A' bet, take the 2 outside numbers, and add them together. 25 + 25 = 50. You bet to win $50 for your A bet. Now, if the A bet loses, you'd add the amount that you lost to the end of the line. So now your line would look like:
25 - 25 - 25 - 25 - 85
So for the B bet, take the 2 outside numbers, add them together = $110. Bet to win $110 for your B bet. If this wins, now you remove the two outside lines, so your line now looks like:
25 - 25 - 25
So when you start your next series, your A bet will now be $50 again. If this bet wins, remove the 2 outside numbers, and you're left with just 25. So for your next series, you just bet to win $25. When you have finished the line, take your new bankroll amount, which will now will $1,100, take 5% of that, $55.00, then make your new line:
27.50 - 27.50 - 27.50 - 27.50
And go from there. Everytime you complete a line, take your new bankroll, and increase your wager amount with the new line Doing a labby greatly decreases the amounts you would be betting when you hit a C bet.Comment -
ghislaineSBR MVP
- 11-14-10
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#1365...I found where I got it, it`S by CHILIDOG and it is the post #74 !!
Everybody if You find this helpful and understand it now, send chilidog Your points
I sent some more his way
so hopefully he wont get mad for reposting his wisdom hahaComment
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