John Morrison 2010 NBA

[ghislaine]

couldn`t have said it better Wilba !!
I am for sure sticking with the system, otherwise, what`s the point. Obviously somebody with more knowledge of betting comprised it so...
Thanks for these sorely needed words of wisdom, will place my C bet as soon as it comes up. BTW this should not even be discussed haha.
Big hug and would give You points but ( rofl ) don`t know how to !!!

[dukipl]

Ok we all know what JM is going to write but this time it wont be an excuse.
We shouldn't take Phoenix [b bet] vs. Magic because Nash was injured! The pdf says to not bet on a team when a key player is missing.
Phoenix [A bet] vs. Miami - LOST
Phoenix [b bet] vs. Magic - SKIP
Phoenix [c bet] vs. Charlotte (We will see on Saturday if its a play)

Tonights v2 play is Cleveland [a bet] vs. NOH. They opened yesterday with +10,5

[knugen]

I get +12,5 on cleveland at bet365

[knugen]

I get +12,5 on cleveland at bet365 after the points

[Kev the Brit]

The JM System rule is very clear that you do not bet on the team when the star player is out. Its not a matter of the odds changing to reflect the loss of a key player. Its a statistics driven system and last night's result proved the rule by adding to the stat.

JM system players, who knew about the loss of Nash before placing their bet, operated outside the system if they placed a bet on Phoenix last night. No sympathy.

JM system players, who knew about the loss of Nash before placing their bet and therefore correctly chose to avoid the B Bet, did the correct thing according to the system. They are now only approx 2.5 units down. They cannot proceed onto the C Bet as a Version 1 play, even if Nash is fit, because it will effectively become a B Bet without a C Bet to follow. However, Phoenic is playing a 4th road game which is in-conference against Houston. This effectively places the team on a Version 2 road trip (at least 2 teams from same conference, Orlando and Charlotte).

So, in summary, for the Phoenix road trip:

V1 system is now over, with a 2.5 unit loss.

V2 system can now kick in with a B bet on Saturday and a C bet available on Monday (but only if Nash plays in both).

Those folk, including me, who bet on Phoenix yesterday before Nash was declared out, have 2 options:

Option 1. Convert to V2, if Nash plays and if the bankroll can stand a masive D Bet

Option 2. Walk away with a 7 unit loss.

I'm walking, with the intention of recovering 8 units in the next 4 JM series (ie bet to win 3 units per series over the next 4 series, commencing with Cleveland tonight.

Be careful out there

Regards to all

[vinsanity]

I'm new to the JM system and have only placed a few bets:

11/15/2010 New Jersey/LA Clippers [A] - won bet
11/16/2010 Chicago/Houston [A] - won bet
11/16/2010 New York/Denver [A] - didn't bet, didn't think New York would win and didn't want to risk the point spread

I skipped the Phoenix/Miami [A] - Miami just scares me on any given night.
I skpped the Phoenix/Orlando [B] - Nash was out.

I'm assuming that now it would be wise to treat the next Phoenix game as an [A] bet as long as Nash is back in the lineup. Coach Alvin Gentry said Nash is expected back in the lineup on Saturday.

I just want to say that I think this thread is awesome. There's lots of good info here.

[cmdyrds]

The JM System rule is very clear that you do not bet on the team when the star player is out. Its not a matter of the odds changing to reflect the loss of a key player. Its a statistics driven system and last last night's result proved the rule by adding to the stat.

JM system players, who knew about the loss of Nash before placing their bet, operated outside the system if they placed a bet on Phoenix last night. No sympathy.

JM system players, who knew about the loss of Nash before placing their bet and therefore correctly chose to avoid the B Bet, did the correct thing according to the system. They are now only approx 2.5 units down. They cannot proceed onto the C Bet as a Version 1 play, even if Nash is fit, because it will effectively become a B Bet without a C Bet to follow. However, Phoenic is playing a 4th road game which is in-conference against Houston. This effectively places the team on a Version 2 road trip (at least 2 teams from same conference, Orlando and Charlotte).

So, in summary, for the Phoenix road trip:

V1 system is now over, with a 2.5 unit loss.

V2 system can now kick in with a B bet on Saturday and a C bet available on Monday (but only if Nash plays in both).

Those folk, including me, who bet on Phoenix yesterday before Nash was declared out, have 2 options:

Option 1. Convert to V2, if Nash plays and if the bankroll can stand a masive D Bet

Option 2. Walk away with a 7 unit loss.

I'm walking, with the intention of recovering 8 units in the next 4 JM series (ie bet to win 3 units per series over the next 4 series, commencing with Cleveland tonight.

Be careful out there

Regards to all

kev, that isn't entirely true. his system say pass if a team's best player is out according to their efficiency rating. as of yesterday it was jason richardson. with this being said i wouldn't follow the system blindly a little common sense goes along way. my 2 cents.

[J.M. Disciple]

I agree with KEV. I placed my bet before i knew Nash was out. If i knew that i would of took the 2.5 unit loss. I disagree with making it a V2 series. It also says in the PDF that there previous game must be a home game. If they were on the road for 3 games or more then they would of had to lose vs the spread by 3 or more points.

Im going to go ahead and make the "C" bet when it comes out and accept the loss as my own fault if I do happen to lose vs the spread.

So 2 options take the 2.5 unit loss from the A bet if you skipped B or take the bigger loss from A or B or risk it on the C wager like me

Also I made a parlay today with Lakers, Miami, and Hornets. Hopefully all 3 times win as they should vs lesser teams. Hopefully I win this so it can pad my Bankroll some. Def risky though and im very nervous cause if i lose this, then There will be no C wager Once again im a DUmmy for not managing my money correctly.

Hopefully though all turns out well.
Best of Luck to ALL.

Also what do you guys think of Phx vs Bobcats? Phx lost the last 2 matches vs them, but i doubt they lose 3 striaght. I think losing 2 matches to them will help out spread a ton. BObcats very under rated team but hopefully phx gets their shots to fall.

[vinsanity]

I agree with KEV. I placed my bet before i knew Nash was out. If i knew that i would of took the 2.5 unit loss. I disagree with making it a V2 series. It also says in the PDF that there previous game must be a home game. If they were on the road for 3 games or more then they would of had to lose vs the spread by 3 or more points.

Im going to go ahead and make the "C" bet when it comes out and accept the loss as my own fault if I do happen to lose vs the spread.

So 2 options take the 2.5 unit loss from the A bet if you skipped B or take the bigger loss from A or B or risk it on the C wager like me

Also I made a parlay today with Lakers, Miami, and Hornets. Hopefully all 3 times win as they should vs lesser teams. Hopefully I win this so it can pad my Bankroll some. Def risky though and im very nervous cause if i lose this, then There will be no C wager Once again im a DUmmy for not managing my money correctly.

Hopefully though all turns out well.
Best of Luck to ALL.

Also what do you guys think of Phx vs Bobcats? Phx lost the last 2 matches vs them, but i doubt they lose 3 striaght. I think losing 2 matches to them will help out spread a ton. BObcats very under rated team but hopefully phx gets their shots to fall.

If Nash is back, sounds like he will be, then I like Phoenix over Charlotte.

Charlotte has Miami the night before and will get Phoenix on the tail end of back to back games.

[cmdyrds]

anyone playing the cavs

[Topgirl]

anyone playing the cavs

I'm with the Cleveland

[lilb999]

Anyone pickin the lakers -6.5 against the wolves?

[thebestthereis]

reverse would be minny +12.5? why lakers here?

[qwerty123]

rolling with the cavs! good luck everyone

[stevex]

Kev the Brit, I have an idea for you....

1. Play ANY 3-game series no matter who is injuried or not.
2. Use a labby
3. Make money

[chilidog]

Are ya'll playing Cleveland tonight? I made my spreadsheet a few months ago, and sure it's possible that I just overlooked it, but I've read that people are saying that Cleveland is a V2 'A' bet tonight, and I don't have them on my spreadsheet. So what's the verdict?

[GGPLAYER]

reverse would be minny +12.5? why lakers here?

I don't pay that close attention but I see two C bets for JM Reverse with the Lakers and NYK tonight. Can anyone confirm or correct that if I am wrong? Thanks!

[GGPLAYER]

Are ya'll playing Cleveland tonight? I made my spreadsheet a few months ago, and sure it's possible that I just overlooked it, but I've read that people are saying that Cleveland is a V2 'A' bet tonight, and I don't have them on my spreadsheet. So what's the verdict?

Clev @NO, @SA, @IND...looks V2 to me.

[krzychu78]

Cleveland
11/19/10 Fri @ New Orleans
11/20/10 Sat @ San Antonio
11/23/10 Tue @ Indiana
It is V2 A bet.

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[juice050]

hey whats up peoples? i have the original jm system, whats this v2 and v3 about? can someone enlighten me?

[jordanfreak]

i think new orleans are gonna take um more than +9

[dukipl]

Yo man!

hey whats up peoples? i have the original jm system, whats this v2 and v3 about? can someone enlighten me?

V1 SYSTEM: Is a team going on the road for 3 consecutive games against an opposing conference. You need to buy 3pts against the spread when placing your bet. You will get odds between -170 to -190 when doing so. If the team is favored by -3 or more then you will need to bet on the money even if the team is favored by -9 and you get like -500 odds.

V2 System: Is a team going on the road for 3 consecutive games, but the one game can be in the same conference and the next 2 games are out of conference. Buying points works the same way as v1.

Example for V2 is:
11/19/10 Cleveland @ New Orleans
11/20/10 Cleveland @ San Antonio
11/23/10 Cleveland @ Indiana

You see that one out of three road trips is from the same conference. That is a V2 system play.

V3 SYSTEM: was crap last year so there is no need to talk about it

[Wilba]

V1 SYSTEM: .....

V3 SYSTEM: was crap last year so there is no need to talk about it

sorry but you are wrong. You should prob check your facts before posting misleading information like that. V3 actually outperformed V1 last year (and is on a par with v1 the last 4 years combined)

prob best to check your facts before posting blindly based on what public opinion says.

BTW stevex is right with his above post, the injury filter is based on one series that lost ONLY, and it was a BS filter that JM brought in so that he wouldn't have to put a loss on his 100% win rate record.

Kev the Brit: there have been 13 series losses (across all versions) the last 4 years combined. Can you tell me how many of those losses would have been filtered out had you used the BS injury filter? Coz I can tell you: the answer is ONE.

As I said above, injuries have nothing to do with anything, this [C] bet has exactly an 81% chance of winning and a 19% chance of losing. An 81% chance of winning at odds of well over 1.5 is an outstanding bet. Nuff said.

Believe the hype and the filters if you like but they mean nothing.

ps please note that an 81% chance is NOT a 100% chance so don't do anything dumb and put your whole roll on it!!

BOL all and go Phoenix tomorrow

and ghislaine thanks for your kind words above! Good luck tomorrow!

[zigomanisinsider]

gl on c bet boys

[juice050]

hey thanx wilba and dukipl i appreciate it. and btw i saw the early line for the suns -2. i feel confident tomorrow for the c bet.

[lawalahmed]

I don't pay that close attention but I see two C bets for JM Reverse with the Lakers and NYK tonight. Can anyone confirm or correct that if I am wrong? Thanks!

Yes there C bet for V1 which is Golden State Warriors vs NYK you choose GSW on the money line...... V2 have no record therefore i dont follow it..

Reverse Results so far:


Reverse Fixture after JM A bet won 2010/2011 Season

1. Against Portland on 30/10/2010 Both JM and reverse Won on A (because of Push)
2. Against Toronto on 1/11/2010 both won on A after buying 3 points (Original and Reverse)
3. Against Golden State on 7/11/2010 won on A
4. Against Utah on 9/11/2010 Reverse fixture lost the series
5. Against Detroit on 9/11/2010 won on A
6. Against Houston on 10/11/2010 Won on A
7. Against Philadelphia 10/11/2010 both won on A (Original and Reverse)
8. Against NJN 16/11/2010 won on B
9. Against Chicago 16/11/2010 won on B
10. Against NY…… waiting for C bet tonight (19/11/2010)

* For tonight C bet GSW never lost at home this season*

[Stevier100]

Hey Guys

This is my 1st post as i only joined tonight but wished i had seen this thread and website 2 nights ago, Yes, I bought and started the system 2 nights ago and not being a betting man and desperate for some cash for the kids christmas pressies, i lumped on this 97% strike rate selections and have lost 2 in a row, the 1st was to win a $1,000 and that cost me $1700 and then i bet the minimum last night to try and break even and blew another $3500 leaving me almost out of funds and dont know what to do about this c bet, I'm not here for sympathy or to be told how stupid i was because i realise all that now and after reading almost all of this thread which i might add has been a great and very informative read, I'm asking for some help and advise to help me somehow get me back to even and start again.

Any help would really be appreciated.

Oh and I sent an email to JM asking about the injury rule as i had read it in the NBA pdf file and got no reply and so bet it also!!

If it wasn't a bet it wouldn't have been hard for him to have emailed it a no bet!!, I received no email bet today, Is this correct??

Best Regards
Steve

[dvb02]

11/19/2010 Cleveland - A Bet (V2)

[Maxi_EV]

guys...

according to JM, what do we do if point spread is -2 ?

we buy 3 points to get to +2 ? or Moneyline?

[COYLO]

Yes there C bet for V1 which is Golden State Warriors vs NYK you choose GSW on the money line...... V2 have no record therefore i dont follow it..

Reverse Results so far:


Reverse Fixture after JM A bet won 2010/2011 Season

1. Against Portland on 30/10/2010 Both JM and reverse Won on A (because of Push)
2. Against Toronto on 1/11/2010 both won on A after buying 3 points (Original and Reverse)
3. Against Golden State on 7/11/2010 won on A
4. Against Utah on 9/11/2010 Reverse fixture lost the series
5. Against Detroit on 9/11/2010 won on A
6. Against Houston on 10/11/2010 Won on A
7. Against Philadelphia 10/11/2010 both won on A (Original and Reverse)
8. Against NJN 16/11/2010 won on B
9. Against Chicago 16/11/2010 won on B
10. Against NY…… waiting for C bet tonight (19/11/2010)

* For tonight C bet GSW never lost at home this season*

dont forget they beat ny @ new york last week

[JW Cash]

I am a little curious about your system. Do you place the A and C bets on Line 1?
Do you buy 3 points?

Yes.....The A Bet is played on Line 1

B Bets are played on Line 2......now we know if the A Bet loses,
then there is a higher pct that a B Bet will win...so I will divide
the A Bet loss where I place more of the loss on Line 2..cause
that is where I play the B Bet.....and a higher pct to win..

If B Bet loses .....I play that on Line 1.......I divide a B Bet loss
equally between Line 1 and Line 2....


I do NOT buy 3 points.....


Hope this helps.....

[dukipl]

V2 had 0 loses last season
V1 had 2 loses
v3 had 2 loses
This is what I have from 2009-2010.

[Maxi_EV]

So guys...we buy 3pts on a -2 point spread?

[chilidog]

So guys...we buy 3pts on a -2 point spread?

It would depend on if the ML was cheaper than the -170 for 3 points. Take whichever is cheaper

[Maxi_EV]

It would depend on if the ML was cheaper than the -170 for 3 points. Take whichever is cheaper

And buying 3pts on a -2 point spread bring us to +2 or +1 ?