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Classic JM e-mail. If I win, I count it. If it loses I "warned" my clients before. Folks just play the Suns tonight, but don't bet wild.Comment -
After his e-mail, he can't possibly count the Phoenix series as a play. He's decided that it is better for his reputation (whats left of it) to pass on a series (which should win, really) rather than risk a loss and then claim it as a no play. Which is fine, albeit a bit late.
So, Nash is not playing and I'ved a placed a large bet. Here's hoping.
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covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/players/player538273.html G Out Sat - Groin - 11/20/10 notesNash did not play Thursday against the Magic due to a sore groin and will not play in Saturday's game against the Bobcats as precaution.Comment -
Well i've got a few Parlays brewing and they have already had winners so cant be cancelled. All involving the suns tonight at 1.76. Now they're at 1.90 I called to ask if I can adjust to account for the new odds, they said no. So I've got a cpl parlays on the bobcats at 1.90 too just in case ; )
Best thing about Parlays which i don't advise unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing (I combine JM's systems at levels across NBA, NHL, NFL and win about 85%) is you don't need to put down large to cover losses and can mitigate against losses and still profit like tonight.
If phoenix lose got enough on Charlotte to cover that, if phoenix win I only lose the charloote amount which to the wins is a small price to pay
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I was going to have to also make an over $5K bet but will stick to the rules and not bet when their best player is out even though i played the last but was already on it.
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I will not be making the "C" bet. Char is a very under rated team with great potential. Look for this one to come down to the wire. I won my Parlay that I posted earlier in the thread, so I covered my losses anyways from A and B loss. I'm going to start betting a little bit smaller, so I dont have to worry about these big future "C" bets crippling my bankroll.
BOB cats barely lost to: Miami, Orlando, Utah, San Antonio, and the games they won were only buy a couple points as well. It should def come down to the wire on this one and I do not feel like flipping a coin. I will take a loss on the system.
*also bobcats came back from being down 15pts vs Miami last night, so for those of you who bet Phx tonight good luck, but hopefully you have your fingers crossed. Miami had a 15pt lead and Ended up losing the lead final 3 minutes of the game. Luckily Miami closed out nicely after that.
NEXT BET ON 28TH.Comment -
Can anyone tell me how many games would have lost if you hadn't bought 3 points because thats what cost me alot of money losses the other day, that and my stupidity being new to the system and not realising whats involved!!Comment -
BUY THE POINTS! long run its very essential that you buy the 3pts. you really have to follow the system to the exact rules to win.
If you go back and read the pages earlier in the thread i think JW cash made a post where he talked about not buying the points and chasing still. You have a lot more losses this way, but it might be more profitable. Certain rules you have to follow when you do this though. GO back to the earlier pages and read through EVERYTHING!! All your questions will be answered.
PS> you guys ever do money line parlays? Some of these money line parlays just seem like a gold mine. Yesterday Hornets, lakers, heat. Easy parlay to win 90% of the time. only got 2:1 (200 to win 100) on my money, but seems extremely +EV. Also today Ill see how it turns out but Magic, heat, Nuggets, spurs seems like an easy parlay to win. All of the teams are pretty big favorites. You get $100 to win $150 on your money. GL to anyone else who decides to make the bet.Comment -
Hey Stevex and JW Cash, I started doing labby as well, love it, it makes perfect sense !!
Many hugs and points are coming Your way guys <3Comment -
can someone explain how a labby worksComment -
ghislaine congrats on joining the bandwagon. As long as you stick to the labby you will profit and if you do lose a series you won't be down nearly as much as if you chased. COYLO, search "labby" and you will find plenty of information on how it works.Comment -
im looking but i cant make head nor tails of it, im soooooo confused lolComment -
are You guys just gonna take the pause then, or maybe place some bets while waiting for another series to begin on 28th ?? would love some picks from the big wigs like Stevex, JW and dvb... can`t blame a girl for asking right
I know I know, just itching for action now that I got this labby thing down ! But like they say in day trading, standing aside is a position in itself sooooo...
maybe just a few friendly tips, no ??
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I didnt play b bet on Suns because of the Nash injury. I'm not sure if ill play them tonight.
JM PLAY: [c bet] Suns +4,5 @ 1,54 bet365 if anyone is interestedComment -
hope no one took them when they were -2Comment -
Unfortunately someone did. And it is +2 already. I have really bad feelings.Comment -
What are your thoughts on this system for JM bets Guys & Gals??
I took it from another site explaining what a Labby Bet is and how it works for the JM system!!
Thanks
Steve
Here is how to work the Labby with the JM system. Don't buy the 3 points. It will cost more than it's worth. Follow out bets all the way through C Bets. You'll have so few of them that it won't bother you to take a few losses on them. Just use one whole Labby line and keep track of how much you're paying in juice off to the side. You can add juice to your line if they carry out a way. One more note. It's getting near the end of the NBA season. A smart bettor would try to stop wagering about two weeks before the end of the season if he can close out his last Labby line before then. Start looking to close out you last line before the season ends. You don't want to be leaving money on the table with an open line.
As far as the Labby goes, just add your losses to the end of the line. Here's and example line with a $10 base that would make $20 base wagers. You add the two outside numbers together to get your wager amount. If you win the wager you cross off the two outside numbers and then go for the two inside numbers. When you cross off all the numbers you'll have a profit of the total of the original numbers. For instance:
If you start with a line like this:
10-10-10-10
when you close out the line you'll have a profit of $40. Adding the two outside numbers together your base wager will be $20. If you win the wager your new line would now be:
10-10
If you were to lose the wager your line would look like this:
10-10-10-10-20
In this case, your next wager would be $30. Let's say you lose the wager at $30. Your new line would now look like this:
10-10-10-10-20-30
You next wager would now be $40 when you add the two outside numbers together (10 & 30)
I don't buy the 3 points because it will cost you more money buying the points than the few losses you'll have not buying the points. And yes, I would add the juice to my lines if I want to recover the juice when I win. Just keep track of how much juice you're paying on a loss. You can add that to your line in chunks if you choose for instance. Let's say your line starts out at:
10-10-10-10
Your first wager is $22. Let's say you lose the wager. You would have had to risk $22 to win $20 assuming 10% juice that most bookmakers charge. Just take the $2 in juice and keep track of it on the side. Le'ts carry that out one more step. Here's the new line on a loss:
10-10-10-10-20
You next wager is $33. That would be risking $33 to win $30. Let's say you lose that wager also. Add the $3 juice to the $2 juice from the previous wager. you now have $5 to make back in juice. Let's assume you lose the next wager risking $44 to win $40, you would have paid another $4 in juice on a $44 wager to win $40. Add that $4 in juice to your total of $5 or $9 total. At this point, you could add that juice onto your line, so your new line would have an extra $10 in it like this (including all previous losses):
10(really $9)-10-10-10-10-20-30-40
When you close out this line, you'll still have a profit of $40 from your original 10-10-10-10 line by adding the juice to the end of the line.
Be creative. You can split lines if they get too long and close them out in portions. Let's use the line above with the juice added as an example. You split the line in two like this:
10-10-10-10 and 10-20-30-40
or
10-20-30-10 and 10-20-10-20-10 (in the second half of the split, I split the $40 into two 20's)
You might even split the line like this. Add the line up and get a total of $140. Divide the $140 by 2 or $70 per line. Create two $70 lines like this:
15-40-15 and 15-40-15 It all works out the same. Like I said, be creative. Use your bankroll to determine what you can or can't handle at any one time.
You can split the lines however you like as long as they add up to the original line. When it's all closed down you'll still have a $40 profit from your original 10-10-10-10 line.
JM's system will win about 60% of the games WITHOUT TAKING THE 3 POINTS! That's a pretty good ratio under any conditions. As an example, let's say a sequence goes A Bet loss, B Bet loss, C Bet loss, A Bet won, A Bet won, A Bet loss, B Bet won, A Bet won, A Bet loss, B Bet won. Let's now look at what your Labby line would look like with that sequence above.
Starting line:
10-10-10-10 after the first A Bet loss (put $2 off to the side for juice) the line is now...
10-10-10-10-20, next wager 30. B Bet loss (put $3 more off to the side for juice - $5 total) the line is now...
10-10-10-10-20-30, next wager 40. C Bet loss (add $4 more to the $5 in juice and add $10 to the line) the line is now...
10-10-10-10-10-20-30-40, next wager 50. A Bet won, cross off the two outside numbers. The new line is now...
10-10-10-10-20-30, next wager 40. A Bet won, cross off the two outside numbers. The new line is now...
10-10-10-20, next wager 30. A Bet loss (add $3 to the side for juice) the line is now...
10-10-10-20-30, next wager 40. B Bet won, cross off the two outside numbers (juice still at $3) The new line is now...
10-10-20, next wager is 30. A Bet won, cross off the two outside numbers (juice still at $3 add it to the line). The new line is now...
13, next wager 13. A Bet loss (add $2 in juice to the line). The line is now...
13-15, next wager is 28. B Bet won. The line is complete and your total profit INCLUDING JUICE is $40.
If you were using the Martingale, you would have had your a** handed to you with the C Bet loss. At a $20 base bet with the Martingale progression that JM uses, you would have lost $22 + $47 + $99 = $168 including the juice to make the wagers. If you would have won the C Bet you would have made $20 on the wager. Now I've been assuming NOT TAKING the 3 points here. If you were taking 3 points, you would only be making $11.60 on a win when risking $20. Let's put this into perspective. not counting the C Bet loss above, you would have made $11.60 for each of the wins or $11.60 times 6 which is $70 in the same amount of time it took the Labby to win $40 with juice and not taking the 3 points. If you take out the C Bet loss in the above example with the Labby, you would have won on the first B Bet. That would have knocked $30 off the Labby line right at the beginning. That would have increased the Labby line win to $70 not counting the additional juice money that would have been saved on the reduced line. The Labby doesn't profit as fast as the Martingale, but it's much safer when managing the bankroll.Comment -
J.M.
Lets be clear....you say I am " chasing still ".....
I am NOT....I dont chase...I do a Labourchere....
And you say NOT buying 3 points.." you have a lot more losses
this way "....
I did not come up with that conclusion...
Out of 22 System Wins so far this year .. " buying 3 points
would only come to play ONE TIME ".....
This is the last time I mention the 3 points deal.....
Simply do what you feel comfortable with....and what will
make you the most money....
But...dont imply I chase........ ok ??Comment -
I see Suns +2 now!Comment -
I took Suns at + 2....
I am actually at a new profit level
on the Labourchere where I have
my 3 PS Away plays....so when
you do the labby and this happens, you have the
option of increasing your basic
wager today or play at the old
wager....
In as much as the Nash situation could
impact the outcome of the game...I will
just play the old unit amount....If
Suns lose...i am still above my designated
profit level and will increase basic unit
2morrow...
That is just another nice thing you
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OHH I took them at -2 and bought three points so I am sitting at plus one. At least I didnt throw the bank at it as I have done in the past. I have had a good day with football so it wont destroy me--however it will pisss me off but no one to blame but myself.
I failed a this last year and it came down to the word GREED and improper money management
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And the suns lossComment -
Phoenix Suns lost by 18 points so they didn't cover the spread.
Official JM NBA record:
v1 10-1 (I count the suns as a loss, but only on the A bet, because I didn't make b and c thanks to Nash)
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JM is doing cartwheels in his penthouse right now collecting a large share of his losers $$ from betus and sportsbetting..comDO WORK + KROW OD
do work! do work! do work! do work!
od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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sorry JW cash. I should of went back and read your thing. I was mixing up different post then. I just Wanted to reference your name with the Labby system. Didn't mean to offend. I have your system down now. NO chase no buying points i got it. I will reread your post a little bit later on.
SOrry for those of you who bet on phx.
My small parlay Lost as well. Freaking Miami losing to Memphis (a team who is 4-9) haha. Too my hype on Miami. They should never lose to Memphis.
Ill be sticking strictly to the system rest of the season. No more of doing my own Parlays.Comment -
suns lose to the catsComment -
stop using this system is fake. The guy is called tony chung . Is a nippon SCAMMERComment -
cala, why would I stop using a system that made me over +100 units last year? Please, do explain...Comment -
Hey Guys
Sorry to hear you lost on the suns!!
what us inexperienced bettors need from you pro's though is discipline to stick to the rules of the system and that also helps us have the best chance of making this thing work, had i found this site just a few days ago i wouldn't be in the mess I'm in now losing my 1st 2 bets and it would have been 3 if i hadn't read on here how important the guidlines to the system are, plus I've now got a proper staking plan and i'm planning on trying this labby betting system too.
I'm gonna get a refund on his crap once i've done that then anyone following in this thread here can pm me and they can have all the systems for free if they don't have them, i've also found an excellent spreadsheet from another site that i'm going to use, It has a 2% for bet A, 6% for bet B and a 14% for bet C which seems to be reasonable and your never risking more than a maximum of 22% on a loss so in theory you could lose 4 times in a row and still be in the game!!
Thanks for all the advise and JW Cash for showing the Labby system, I might be able to make this work although my 1st 2 bets have me down over 5k now!!
When the last ones a no bet what happens to bet C?
Steve
Just got this too!!!
Just as the system had predicted when the team's best player is out
to injury, Phoenix could not manage to cover the spread in their
game at Charlotte. This series has been the perfect example of why
we have an injury filter in the NBA system to pass on any series
where the team we're betting on has its best player out due to injury!
Steve Nash, future hall of famer, 2-time back-to-back league MVP,
and by far the best player on the Phoenix roster was injured right
after the first game of their road trip. As the system clearly states,
it becomes unreasonably risky to make bets on a team whose best player
is out to injury. The game has been a perfect example of why you
should follow the system and its filters exactly to the letter! Make
sure to pass on any team when their best player is injured and won't play!
Our next official system bet will occur on the November 24th
See you then!
John Morrison, PhDComment
