I've made my last NBA bet.

[Fed_42420]

Are you serious?



There's this number called a point spread....

So what sport isnt there a pointspread, with a spread and the players being aware of it there will be a "fix", if thats what you consider it. But I think you are being a little arrogant calling that a fix, if the team knows their fans bets on them they may try to cover for there fans. Maybe Denver was mad at the fans, could of been a million diff. things, but you say it was fixed for the spread? So you say vegas or mobs forced the players to hit the spread? Please, I find this very hard to believe. I mean you act like gambling is the only thing that sports are played for.

[PAULYPOKER]

The spread is designed to make the bet at 50% odds if the action gets one sided and the books do nothing to even it out by adjusting the spread this just simply means the books are betting on the team with the least action on it to cover some times they win and some time they lose sports wagering is not fixed by any means

[andywend]

One question: if this is how you feel, why in the hell are you on an NBA gambling board?

While I am no fan of the NBA or its players, this has nothing to do with the gambling aspect.

I would bet on women's synchronized swimming if I felt there was an edge in doing so even though I have no desire to watch it.

[anjaru]

Let's think about this intelligently for one second. A conspiracy or a fixed game would have to involve every basketball player on the floor today in that game, because if ONE single player was out of the loop and decided to make an extra basket just for the hell of it, it would ruin the entire "scheme." What do you guys think, JR Smith got a secret phone call at half time, gathered all the players and went into a room behind the coaches back and agreed that "13" was the number? Why would they risk their names, their reputations, their livelihoods for such a small payoff? This is how the human mind works. We dwell on things that don't go right. Forget about this one. There are 11 games tomorrow. You can't win if you don't bet!

[TGoat]

Any time you make a losing wager on a gambling event whether it be a hand at poker, a bet on the craps table or a basketball game the only person you should ever blame for a negative outcome is yourself. Blaming anyone or anything else is the sign of a degenerate gambler who can't and won't take responsibility for their own actions.

Anyone who thinks that Denver won this game (or that New Orleans lost it) by exactly 13 points so they could not cover the spread but still win the game outright, should sign up for Gambler's Anonymous immediately.

No, forget that...it's already too late.

[Gopi-1]

Any time you make a losing wager on a gambling event whether it be a hand at poker, a bet on the craps table or a basketball game the only person you should ever blame for a negative outcome is yourself. Blaming anyone or anything else is the sign of a degenerate gambler who can't and won't take responsibility for their own actions.

Anyone who thinks that Denver won this game (or that New Orleans lost it) by exactly 13 points so they could not cover the spread but still win the game outright, should sign up for Gambler's Anonymous immediately.

No, forget that...it's already too late.

Word...

[TGHMak]

When it's all said and done there are easier sports then the NBA to bet on

[yunnusan]

it sounds good

[Dexter]

shit happens for sure but dex i think you are foolhardy my friend. this game was rigged and its obvious you didnt watch that game or are just refusing to admit the obvious. if you didnt see the facial expressions and hand signals then you dont know what happened. i called a 13 point victory halfway thru the third- its the nba games are fixed on a regular basis and nothing anyone says will change the fact this game was rigged.

haha - you're hilarious man.....im refusing to admit the obvious? i did watch most of the game.

what can i say........you're a genius SIR LB

i would love to hear who "fixed" the game...

your statement would make a little more sense to me if i had the hornets..you act as if im trying to justify picking the hornets correctly +14....i had the nuggets -13. im not happy either that the hornets came back, but i also dont go blaming the world when i lose a bet.

[manidyon]

I have no idea whether the NBA games are fixed.. but it is quite convincing when i watched the miami orlando games.. one of the white zebra was helping the heat so much and when wade hit a 3-points in the 4 quarter to give miami a one point lead, wade put a smile on his face and was happily talking to that zebra.. luckily orlando fought back n won the game.. i still dont think the game is fixed, but there is some gambling goin on with the ref and players..

[Dexter]

Any time you make a losing wager on a gambling event whether it be a hand at poker, a bet on the craps table or a basketball game the only person you should ever blame for a negative outcome is yourself. Blaming anyone or anything else is the sign of a degenerate gambler who can't and won't take responsibility for their own actions.

Anyone who thinks that Denver won this game (or that New Orleans lost it) by exactly 13 points so they could not cover the spread but still win the game outright, should sign up for Gambler's Anonymous immediately.

No, forget that...it's already too late.

couldnt have said it better myself.

[Dexter]

31 points in 24 minutes against a team that gave up 10 in a little over 1 minute last night to start the fourth quarter. And we're talking about a comeback at Denver vs. a collapse at Curry-less Golden State.

Come on, fellas. Think about it.

dude.............tell me who fixed the game and WHY??? do you think the nuggets players shaved points?

if you would have said the refs fixed the game, i would have never replied to your thread cause thats possible (though unlikely)....

[Dexter]

So it was just a coincidence that it ended up 13?

OK.

your sour because you lost and i can guarantee you havent been betting long.

this happens all the time. ive been betting for 20 years. linesmakers get paid for a reason. they have talent when it comes to this shit.

again, if this was a college game....i may be crying bs as well (if i saw heavy money come in on the dog)

you wanna tell me the refs fixed the game...i can buy it.

the denver nuggets stars didnt shave points.

[Wilforth]

your sour because you lost and i can guarantee you havent been betting long.

this happens all the time. ive been betting for 20 years. linesmakers get paid for a reason. they have talent when it comes to this shit.

again, if this was a college game....i may be crying bs as well (if i saw heavy money come in on the dog)

you wanna tell me the refs fixed the game...i can buy it.

the denver nuggets stars didnt shave points.

[bobspicks]

I didn't watch the game but hammered new orleans 2H...
Why wouldn't you hedge your bet when you were up by 25 at the half and could have gotten new orleans +1.5
I pushed on denver 3U for the game won them 1H 1U and won 10U on new orleans 2H.
Anytime a team is up big they normally back off and play uninspired because they dont need to win by 20 points they just need to win!!!
So now why wouldn't you try to middle your bet at half with such a nice size window to hit both ways
Learn how to gamble and keep this in mind so your @ss wont feel so soar next time.

[Wilforth]

Anytime a team is up big they normally back off and play uninspired because they dont need to win by 20 points they just need to win!!!

[BernardMadoff]

I have no idea whether the NBA games are fixed.. but it is quite convincing when i watched the miami orlando games.. one of the white zebra was helping the heat so much and when wade hit a 3-points in the 4 quarter to give miami a one point lead, wade put a smile on his face and was happily talking to that zebra.. luckily orlando fought back n won the game.. i still dont think the game is fixed, but there is some gambling goin on with the ref and players..

Contradiction aint it?

[sni757575]

it wasn't a fix period

[SpreadSniper]

I wouldn't mind games being fixed... but Im always on the so close yet so fukked side that it does get a bit sickening... and the stretch i've been on, well Ill tell ya, last nights game had me thinking the same thing as the OP.... twas also lovely to be on MIA and watch that game to OT and the rested home team fall short... fukkin wicked

[krazey47409]

i dont know if any players fixed this denver game but i wouldnt doubt it these ghetto ass thug ballers always trying to make some more $$$$$$ u know their trying to look out for their peoples in da hood thats why i dont even fuk with them big spreads denver could had covered that 14 points if they really wanted to they didnt give a fuk they just wanted the easy win i know some players in the are fixing shit and gamble but fuak it thats just the way shit its when you got a bunch of ghetto mother fukas controlinng billions of dollars shit happens

[Wilforth]

i dont know if any players fixed this denver game but i wouldnt doubt it

A decent number of these players are gamblers. So you can't rule that out.

[Jedi]

NBA games are not fixed.. and no Lunar Landing conspiracy, we really went there..

the NBA ref who went to jail and lost his whole life is the extent of it...

if games were fixed, none of us would really be here, would we?
blaming a fix = not taking responsibility for one's actions..
a like individual points fingers at everyone else, powerless to control anything

[Noles506]

Majority of teams don't give 2 shits about covering a spread, there out to win the game....They get a big lead and wanna rest there starters, give mins to other guys....so really, anything can happen.Denver has been known to come out dull more than once thats for sure.

If they lost, and you lost your bet...suck it up & move on,. theres another day of action today....if you keep thinking about last nights loss, or losses...its gonna play with your head.

[SpreadSniper]

NBA games are not fixed.. and no Lunar Landing conspiracy, we really went there..

the NBA ref who went to jail and lost his whole life is the extent of it...

if games were fixed, none of us would really be here, would we?
blaming a fix = not taking responsibility for one's actions..
a like individual points fingers at everyone else, powerless to control anything

Ignorance really must be bliss I guess.... If you really believe this you are as ignorant as they come... You must really believe it's only cheating if you get caught.
Screw giving this guy points, I'd take em away if I could....
Fixing is very common in NBA games... what more proof than last nights game do you need? Seriously? I'm here to try and possibly see through all the bullshit that is displayed infront of me on a daily basis and with the help of wise gamblers on this site, make what I hope to be sharp bets...

Players should be banned from having any way to communicate with anyone other than their coaching staff and teammates while a game is going on... no calling buds to place bets on their behalf at half time.

[Dexter]

Ignorance really must be bliss I guess.... If you really believe this you are as ignorant as they come... You must really believe it's only cheating if you get caught.
Screw giving this guy points, I'd take em away if I could....
Fixing is very common in NBA games... what more proof than last nights game do you need? Seriously? I'm here to try and possibly see through all the bullshit that is displayed infront of me on a daily basis and with the help of wise gamblers on this site, make what I hope to be sharp bets...

Players should be banned from having any way to communicate with anyone other than their coaching staff and teammates while a game is going on... no calling buds to place bets on their behalf at half time.

who fixed the game last night? please (someone) elaborate who made money by fixing this game.

someone had to be in on it.

also, if the game was fixed why was there never any sharp spike down in the line?

again - i had the nuggets

[SpreadSniper]

DENVER (NBA.com exclusive) -- The Nuggets created a work of art in the first half Thursday. The second half, on the other hand, wasn't worthy enough to tape to the refrigerator door.
But Carmelo Anthony's 26 points and career-high 18 rebounds helped the Nuggets piece together a 93-80 win over the Hornets. And at this time of the year, the final score is all that counts, no matter if the performance would win an Oscar or a Razzie.
"The first half was perfect basketball," acting coach Adrian Dantley said.
The second half? Denver didn't look like the team sitting in second in the Western Conference. Missed shots, missed free throws and turnovers gave New Orleans a chance to make it a game.
"We got a little lull, we missed a lot of shots, missed free throws," Dantley said.
Not many would blame the Nuggets for getting distracted. In the past two weeks they've lost Kenyon Martin, their best defensive player and top rebounder, and have had to play without their head coach.

The Nuggets stretched it to 62-37 at the break despite Anthony and Chauncey Billups, their top two scorers, combining for just 18 points.
"Early in the game, they didn't need it as much," Anthony said. "We had everyone playing well."
Denver's led by as much as 27 early in the third quarter but let the Hornets back into the game. Down 77-61 after three periods New Orleans went on an 8-2 run to open the fourth to cut it to nine.
But when they needed him most, Anthony stepped up. He hit a fadeaway jumper in the lane and after Darren Collison missed a 3-pointer, Anthony rebounded his own miss and hit a short jumper over James Posey to make it 85-72 with 4:20 left.


By my own words I am obviously blaming DEN players for shaving... Hell I may just be whining about a sharp line like you guys are saying... but when it looks like a duck, has feathers and a bill like a duck, quacks like a duck - fukkk it must be a duck.


Today is a new day and I gotta learn rather than stew...

[TGoat]

Does anyone here really think this thread would even exist if LakerBoy had picked New Orleans last night instead of Denver?

[julio_cat]

That happens in NBA on TNT Thursdays more often than you think. Last year Mavs shot FH about 30% in a game they were huge favs

[laziie]

That Denver game was fixed. Period.

if u think its fixed, just be on the right side of the fix...

[WesJeffery]

Watch chancy billup intentionally not grabbing the def rebound with 2-3 mins to go. Nene and Andersen missing easy dunks. Vegas influences all these games, believe it now or you'll lose and learn later.

As I have said b4 in other post, all the capping we do and lookup stats and ****ing play the game in our mind, never works. We are happy if we can hit 60% lol. Why not 70-80 if we are smart and have stats?

Biggest handicapping advice you all will ever get. Cap your own games, write it on paper, go to your books and play the opposite. You must follow as I said and start counting cash. Fading yourself means $$$$ but we need Balls for that.

Big time setup game: Bret Favre forced to throw Nfc championship game. Watch the damn tape if you don't believe me.

[Bluehorseshoe]

That happens in NBA on TNT Thursdays more often than you think. Last year Mavs shot FH about 30% in a game they were huge favs

It's the second time the Hornets pulled this off on national tv in about three weeks. They did the same thing to Dallas on a Sunday ESPN game.

[crownontheground]

so what about baseball?

[Aurelius]

Haven't read the entire thread cause it's late and I'm slightly inebriated... I was wrong about you NC, you aren't clueless.

Certain teams regularly rig games... top tier teams that "appear" to struggle against <.500 teams, like the nuggets, are the worst offenders. I had no money on nugs vs hornets. I had money v washington.

I'm seeing trends where these teams vs teams that have 0 chance of winning/beating spread, they make first half tight, blow them out in the 3rd then keep the 4th competetive for the viewers but win/cover. Against decent teams that have a chance of beating/covering spread in 24 min of play, they blow them out first half then let them play catch up in the 2nd.

The arguement that pro players have no interest in the spread/total results because they already earn 7 figures/year is retarded. Money is still money people. It's easy to stop playing D, easy to miss shots, easy to stop taking the high % opportunities, easy to lose quarters in other words.

Denvers last 2 games have made it so obvious though... they should have smashed Was and NOH. Watch the last 3 minutes of Den v Was in particular last few plays, nene stops playing D and gives was an easy layup then next offensive play he gets fouled, bricks 2 free throws into the back of the rim, then watch nene as the ball is accidentally tipped in, he hangs his head like "****, that wasn't suppoed to happen, we might make the spread now". Then last play, 30 on the clock, denver possession, 1pt to make spread, JR smith holds the ball at half court, lets the clock run the fires an airball...

Real skill in this game is working out which side of the line the rigged team is going for

[SpreadSniper]

Does anyone here really think this thread would even exist if LakerBoy had picked New Orleans last night instead of Denver?

I was on DEN from the get go Goat.... some of us have a mind of our own and can think for ourselves.
As I said, I know Im now complaining about something I have no control over, which in itself is useless.... especially given if games truly are fixed, how in the hell are you ever gonna know? You win some and you loose some...

DEN scoring 31 points in any half, when was the last time that happened? DEN rested, comfortable and acclimatized to the thin air vs a tired NOH team... One would think DEN was really gonna spank em given that usually teams on b2b fade in the 2h, but that wasn't the case last night.... Last night was NBA irony at it's finest and obviously some of us (myself included) have a tougher time dealing with that shit than others....

Whatever... it's just the continuation of a shitty week for me and I'm over it.... on to loosing money today!

[migz]

NBA is fixed!