2014/15 NBA Thread

[fitguy67]

You know to be honest though, would you care if you made that kind of bank?

there are a few episodes in an early season of "The Shield" where these cops accidentally end up holding a pro basketball player hostage...well written script got right at this point...when the money gets ridiculously huge, why try to be #1...when you can still be fabulously wealthy as #11...

if i were top-30 in tennis, for example, i'd have everything i could possibly imagine wanting in life financially...so i'd practice and play hard enough to stay at this level for a few years to make my life's savings...but screw that killer instinct shit for psychos like Nadal and Djokovic
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It's maddening betting on these fukks tho' with the assumption that they care as much as we feel they SHOULD care...

sports legends of yesteryear played their hearts out all season...and sold cars, mowed lawns etc. during the offseason...

apart from a small handful of hyper-competitive alpha-males these modern fukks can hardly even go thu the motions of playing hard when it really counts

[t-wizzle]

They're not trying to lose, but they're not doing anything it takes to win. And almost all of that -- toughness included -- is controllable. The Wizards are teaching them a painful lesson right now, and it's not just about being "better" or executing with more efficiency.

Is this Skip Bayless posting here?

[KRIT]

Come on guys let's stop bashing the fans. They have a good fanbase. I'd still be out there if I supported this team. That's about the only good thing they have going for them.

I hate their country and all their athletes though. Their 3 main stupid tennis players have all cost me money over the years too. Raptors are climbing up the list as far as my nemeses in the NBA this season bigtime as well.

I think we can all agree they lack toughness - I doubt it's because they don't care though. It's the playoffs. Nobody steps up there trying to lose. As for the defense well they're just not a very good defensive team especially if Lowry is sitting the majority of the game.

In the end, they just aren't that good of a team. They went 13-16 after the all-star break, someone could probably make a case that they are the weakest playoff team this year. At least Boston and Nets finished strong. I think Casey's rotation is out of whack. Way too much Terrence Ross, give his minutes to Vasquez and Lou Williams. And Patterson doesn't get enough PT either, why does Hansburough start? Amir and Patterson need to see the court more IMO. Maybe I'm wrong, but seems like the rotation is too big, especially in playoffs.

[Seto]

In the end, they just aren't that good of a team. They went 13-16 after the all-star break, someone could probably make a case that they are the weakest playoff team this year. At least Boston and Nets finished strong. I think Casey's rotation is out of whack. Way too much Terrence Ross, give his minutes to Vasquez and Lou Williams. And Patterson doesn't get enough PT either, why does Hansburough start? Amir and Patterson need to see the court more IMO. Maybe I'm wrong, but seems like the rotation is too big, especially in playoffs.

Ross is an enigma. You don't really know what you're gonna get with him. The problem with Vasquez and Williams is that whatever they give you offensively is sort of negated by how Wall and even Sessions went off on them.

Valanciunas isn't yet really ready for the big stage. Amir Johnson and Hansbrough are both energy players to me who should be coming off the bench. I'd start Patterson to space the floor and give Lowry and DeRozan more room. But it's not like Casey has that much to work with in the frontcourt - they definitely need an upgrade. There's no real good solution.

[Seto]

there are a few episodes in an early season of "The Shield" where these cops accidentally end up holding a pro basketball player hostage...well written script got right at this point...when the money gets ridiculously huge, why try to be #1...when you can still be fabulously wealthy as #11...

if i were top-30 in tennis, for example, i'd have everything i could possibly imagine wanting in life financially...so i'd practice and play hard enough to stay at this level for a few years to make my life's savings...but screw that killer instinct shit for psychos like Nadal and Djokovic
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It's maddening betting on these fukks tho' with the assumption that they care as much as we feel they SHOULD care...

sports legends of yesteryear played their hearts out all season...and sold cars, mowed lawns etc. during the offseason...

apart from a small handful of hyper-competitive alpha-males these modern fukks can hardly even go thu the motions of playing hard when it really counts

Don't bet then and watch reruns of games in the 80's instead of watching current games. What can I say.

This "money has ruined sports" thing many people constantly complain about is tiring.

[fitguy67]

here's an example...back in the 60s, 70s, 80s...all the big men on every team in the game could make hook shots either hand...as well as hit 10-foot jumpers and nail free throws amost as well as the guards...

and i'm not talking just about Bird, Jabbar, Walton, Lanier, Chamberlain or Russel...damn-near all the big men used to be complete basketball players...now very few are...reason...they won't even practice the hook shot, for example, let alone from either side...why...cuz nobody really cares about the fundamentals of the game anymore...everything is marketing, razzle dazzle, money...and the modern fundamental is now playing up to the officials for minimum-contact horseshit fouls to get the points they won't/don't have to fight for in today's game

[DOM-Ganador]

BUT all this discussion is moot as TWizzle knows Lowry personally.

Sometimes it is fukking exhausting simply signing in to SBR nowadays.

[t-wizzle]

BUT all this discussion is moot as TWizzle knows Lowry personally.

Sometimes it is fukking exhausting simply signing in to SBR nowadays.

It's relevant to the discussion. He's not a piece of shit like some people were insinuating. And he's highly, highly competitive.

You wanna bash his game tonight - by all means. Get in line. It had absolutely nothing to do with "not caring." That's as lazy and irresponsible as an argument gets. And that should frustrate you more than my post.

[Seto]

Sometimes it is fukking exhausting simply signing in to SBR nowadays.

Why don't you save yourself the trouble then?

[Seto]

here's an example...back in the 60s, 70s, 80s...all the big men on every team in the game could make hook shots either hand...as well as hit 10-foot jumpers and nail free throws amost as well as the guards...

now look at these awkward lurches...a half-assed semi-big-man from a few decades ago like journeyman Bill Lambier of the Pistons would chew most of the current elite big guys up around the boards on either end AND was durable...most teams had someone like that back in the day...

and i'm not talking just about Bird, Jabbar, Walton, Lanier, Chamberlain or Russel...damn-near all the big men used to be complete basketball players...now very few are...reason...they won't even practice the hook shot, for example, let alone from either side...why...cuz nobody really cares about the fundamentals of the game anymore...everything is marketing, razzle dazzle, money...and the modern fundamental is now playing up to the officials for minimum-contact horseshit fouls to get the points they won't/don't have to fight for in today's game

[Seto]

Today: 0-4, -11.15x
Total: 177-290-8, +16.15x

[fitguy67]

fair enough...be it resolved that

the city with a coke-head mayor also has an under-achieving NBA-team...

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Toronto Raptors are to basketball-betting what Fabio Fognini is to tennis-betting

money can be made with both, but you gotta bet them with extra care

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as far as the yesteryear>current-era issue...most of the water that has passed under the bridge is probably bad water from a "pure" sport angle, but it ain't gonna flow back to how it was...

and, at the end of the day, the most important "sport" is making money from whatever sport there is available to bet on...

but little "the way it was and the way it should be" tantrums are occasionally fun
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go UNITS!!!

[t-wizzle]

Seto my friend. I'm sorry but...

RIP Mavs.

[Seto]

Seto my friend. I'm sorry but...

RIP Mavs.

Sure looks that way. I've had a frustrating past couple years in most sports as a fan. Oh well. Comes and goes. I got to celebrate an NBA Championship, a Champions League and a Wimbledon title in 3 consecutive years just before that.

Hoping for a bounceback day tomorrow in here.

[Seto]

fair enough...be it resolved that

the city with a coke-head mayor also has an under-achieving NBA-team...

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Toronto Raptors are to basketball-betting what Fabio Fognini is to tennis-betting

money can be made with both, but you gotta bet them with extra care

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as far as the yesteryear>current-era issue...most of the water that has passed under the bridge is probably bad water from a "pure" sport angle, but it ain't gonna flow back to how it was...

and, at the end of the day, the most important "sport" is making money from whatever sport there is available to bet on...

but little "the way it was and the way it should be" tantrums are occasionally fun
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go UNITS!!!

That's not comparable. Fognini is an idiot. Now with him you could have a very reasonable case that he doesn't care.

I'm not sure if it's what's most important but it's definitely something that matters very much to me in the next couple months. I hope this is just a minor blip. We'll try to do better tomorrow.

[Seto]

Clippers-1 -110 (betcris) (risking 2.75x to win 2.5x)

[ace_202]

Sure looks that way. I've had a frustrating past couple years in most sports as a fan. Oh well. Comes and goes. I got to celebrate an NBA Championship, a Champions League and a Wimbledon title in 3 consecutive years just before that.

Hoping for a bounceback day tomorrow in here.

Cavs, Barca and Djokovich. There's your '15 futures right there.

[SharkAA]

Clippers-1 -110 (betcris) (risking 2.75x to win 2.5x)

Do you think it's going to be pretty similar like in Gm 1, or is this game going to be close?
I was really surprised, when I saw this:

Green 2-11
Parker 4-11
Ginobili 3-10
Diaw 2-12

Combined FG: 11-44 (25%)

Total BrickFest. I guess if those guys actually make shots in Gm 2, this game should be pretty close. If not, Clips win by double digits.

[oldscho0led]

Seto, what do you think about the Grizz-Blazers game? Im leaning Blazers here with the points especially at 6. Blazers still have two prolific scorers and they will grind this out and Grizz win in a super close one.

[killersweet]

Guys this is the same team that lost to the loser nets in the playoffs last year.

Just a pathetic team. Loser fans, loser franchise, loser country. I'd guess even their mayor is a loser. I wonder if all those Canadians are still watching the game outside down 18 in a must win

Oh yea, the fans even supported the team when it was going through so many rebuilding phases. They remain passionate and loyal. Also last time I checked, majority of the players on the raptors team are Americans. It is not team Canada basketball. So I don't get why people are blaming the fans and the country. Also Raptors are still in better shape than some of the loser teams in the NBA.

[Seto]

Cavs, Barca and Djokovich. There's your '15 futures right there.

Cavs lol.

[Seto]

Do you think it's going to be pretty similar like in Gm 1, or is this game going to be close?
I was really surprised, when I saw this:

Green 2-11
Parker 4-11
Ginobili 3-10
Diaw 2-12

Combined FG: 11-44 (25%)

Total BrickFest. I guess if those guys actually make shots in Gm 2, this game should be pretty close. If not, Clips win by double digits.

I think the game will be closer than game 1.

[Seto]

Seto, what do you think about the Grizz-Blazers game? Im leaning Blazers here with the points especially at 6. Blazers still have two prolific scorers and they will grind this out and Grizz win in a super close one.

Idk I think Memphis probably wins somewhere around the spread. Don't really feel like touching that one.

[Seto]

Nets ml +450 (paddy power) (risking 1x to win 4.5x)

Nets ml +425 (paddy power) (risking 1x to win 4.25x)

total bet: Nets ml +438 (paddy power) (risking 2x to win 8.75x)

Nets+9.5 -105 (betcris) (risking 0.53x to win 0.5x)

[Seto]

Nets ml +450 (5dimes) (risking 1x to win 4.5x)

total bet: Nets ml +442 (paddy power/5dimes) (risking 3x to win 13.25x)

Taking a minor shot here. If they cover but don't win I'll only get 1 unit out of it but I really feel like they will pull this game out.

[Pauulzcappin]

im on hawks first half, probably hitting something else live

good luck tonight bro

[Seto]

Really had a shot there. 2 opportunities to tie/take the lead late and they just couldn't make easy shots.

I added 500 on Nets 2nd half, 100 on the 2nd half ml and 50 on the full game ml. Coulda made fukking 2700 on this game had they won SU, or at least a bit more on the 2nd half ml but for those stupid late free throws.

+450 is still ok as long as the Clippers win and make it +700 total on the day I guess.

I am hammering these idiots in game 3 and possibly game 4.

[Seto]

im on hawks first half, probably hitting something else live

good luck tonight bro

welcome back bro

[freeeze]

Damn, you were close to getting that Brooklyn ML. They should win one of the next two games.

Memphis just stifled Portland again. Like, at no point in the 2nd half did the Blazers look like they have a shot at turning the game around. Series bets are looking good.

I guess Clipps have a good shot at winning again tonight. Will be a lot closer though, imo.

[t-wizzle]

Good call on Brooklyn bro. I didn't like the game.

Like Milwaukee and GSW tomorrow.

[Seto]

Damn, you were close to getting that Brooklyn ML. They should win one of the next two games.

Memphis just stifled Portland again. Like, at no point in the 2nd half did the Blazers look like they have a shot at turning the game around. Series bets are looking good.

I guess Clipps have a good shot at winning again tonight. Will be a lot closer though, imo.

I agree it will be a close game tonight. I probably should've taken that "largest lead under" prop. Just occurred to me.

[Seto]

Good call on Brooklyn bro. I didn't like the game.

Like Milwaukee and GSW tomorrow.

The game should be close in Milwaukee tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Bulls win and Bucks cover even with the short line.

Not sure about the other 2 games. I think both New Orleans and Boston should be able to gut out a win at home but maybe it'll be in game 4.

[Seto]

I really don't know how the Clippers do it. How do you give up a fast break basket up 2 with 8 seconds to go?

Team just never fails up to come up small in big moments. It's quite frankly amazing. Great game though, I guess.

[Seto]

Today: 2-2, -1.75x
Total: 179-292-8, +14.4x

[Seto]

Also I can understand Jordan missing free throws. But Matt Barnes bricking 3 of 4 all in the 4th and even Redick missing a huge one is just typical of this team. If they can find a way to lose - you bet they're going to do it.