John Morrison 2013-14 NBA Thread

**Kev the Brit** · 11-27-13, 05:13 PM

Hi Wallco and Limit, I have read your posts with interest. There is no doubt that the unfiltered system produces greater rewards, but it is a rollercoaster ride on the BR. The filter does bring a smoother ride but with less profit. I prefer the smoother ride. In fact I prefer it so much that I am considering returning to the 3 point buy but playing 0-3-3. Same total risk as 1-1-1. This season the "3-point buy 0-3-3" profit is +18 units so far, with no series losses.....

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 05:14 PM

I subscribed to ESPN Insider and they have a section where they predict which nba team will cover the spread and their source of information is from multiple sports books and three other main sources (team rankings.com, number fire.com, and rotowire.com). Regardless of this information we’ll still be following the two systems the way it is. This is something extra we can use. If you guys like, I don’t mind posting the picks. Here’s an example of the pick. Let me know if you guys would like me to continue posting.

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 05:14 PM

I'm going to have to re-size the data to make it look more clear.

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 05:21 PM

NumberFire Picks [?]

[*=left]Spread
[*=left]Money Line
[*=left]Totals

WSH-2.5
LIKELIHOOD38.6%

MIL+2.5
LIKELIHOOD61.4%

	Our Pick	Return
Money Line	WSH -138	-22.5%
Spread	MIL +2.5	17.2%
Totals	Over 190	-24.1%

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 05:23 PM

I had to change the formatting around to make it look more clear on sbr. They have these percentages for money line to. There's a lot more info on the actual espn page, but it's hard to copy everything onto here. I'll post ny knicks picks to.

**Melda** · 11-27-13, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by adidas-b 88

I had to change the formatting around to make it look more clear on sbr. They have these percentages for money line to. There's a lot more info on the actual espn page, but it's hard to copy everything onto here. I'll post ny knicks picks to.

you cant be serious using ESPN Insider as a reference for capping games.. I would highly suggest not following their bullshit numbers.

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 05:28 PM

NY Knicks vs La Clippers (11-27-13)

NumberFire Picks [?]

NY+9.5
LIKELIHOOD 57.9%

LAC-9.5 LIKELIHOOD 42.1%

110

	Our Pick	Return
Money Line	LAC -521	-11.9%
Spread	NY +9.5	10.5%
Totals	Under 205.5	19.5%

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 05:34 PM

I'm only using it for the two systems that I'm following and I'm still testing it out so we'll see how it goes.

**imotiv8** · 11-27-13, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Kev the Brit

Hi Wallco and Limit, I have read your posts with interest. There is no doubt that the unfiltered system produces greater rewards, but it is a rollercoaster ride on the BR. The filter does bring a smoother ride but with less profit. I prefer the smoother ride. In fact I prefer it so much that I am considering returning to the 3 point buy but playing 0-3-3. Same total risk as 1-1-1. This season the "3-point buy 0-3-3" profit is +18 units so far, with no series losses.....

Lol...it's all a matter of preference. I'm a risk taker and as of now can afford to be. I'm with Wallco for now but I can see myself using TheLimits filters after a few years. I'd never go back to the old way tho

**BCC585** · 11-27-13, 05:36 PM

Thanks for posting Adidas.
I'm interested in tonight's outcome of espn's likelihood

**kdavis** · 11-27-13, 06:22 PM

Anybody playing the 2nd half of the Bulls series tonight?

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by BCC585

Thanks for posting Adidas.
I'm interested in tonight's outcome of espn's likelihood

No problem. me to!

**adidas-b 88** · 11-27-13, 06:59 PM

I hope detroit is down first half, so I can take the second half. I did a $30 parlay on heat and pacers m/l.

**bonhammer** · 11-27-13, 11:01 PM

Go Warriors!! also had the +1.5 from last night

**Andy3568** · 11-27-13, 11:46 PM

It's one of those questions each person must ask: Does the increased reward of the 1-7-5 unfiltered system justify the risk of a -95 unit season? I imagine everyone will have a different answer.

**Wallco99** · 11-28-13, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Andy3568

It's one of those questions each person must ask: Does the increased reward of the 1-7-5 unfiltered system justify the risk of a -95 unit season? I imagine everyone will have a different answer.

That's why I put the numbers out there.

**play4win** · 11-28-13, 12:55 AM

knicks eat shit and i hope you choke on it!

**KennyM10** · 11-28-13, 12:56 AM

Wow wallco two d losses in the same night for you.

**knugen** · 11-28-13, 12:57 AM

Knicks suck.. they miss everything.. unbelivible

**Andy3568** · 11-28-13, 01:03 AM

Wasn't really concerned about the Bucks D loss; all systems have their losses. The Knicks loss is big, though. It was a JM V2 (C), JM V1 (B), and Chase 110 (D) loss.

**Kev the Brit** · 11-28-13, 05:44 AM

Morrison 11/27 Results & 11/28 Plays

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**hagball52** · 11-28-13, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Andy3568

Wasn't really concerned about the Bucks D loss; all systems have their losses. The Knicks loss is big, though. It was a JM V2 (C), JM V1 (B), and Chase 110 (D) loss.

According to JM Knicks won. He said line opened at 10.5 went to 11 then dropped to 9.5.

**Kev the Brit** · 11-28-13, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by hagball52

According to JM Knicks won. He said line opened at 10.5 went to 11 then dropped to 9.5.

Yeh, he asked for his subscribers to reply with their own results. A win was only possible if the bet was placed the previous day, which is highly unlikely. A push could have happened if the bet was placed while eating breakfast cereal; again most unlikely.

**hagball52** · 11-28-13, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Kev the Brit

Yeh, he asked for his subscribers to reply with their own results. A win was only possible if the bet was placed the previous day, which is highly unlikely. A push could have happened if the bet was placed while eating breakfast cereal; again most unlikely.

Yeah I went back and checked the line movements and never saw it at 11 anywhere but it briefly opened at 10.5 but quickly moved to 10 and closed at 9.5. JM has done this concensus thing in the past but always comes back and says it was unanimous we'll score it as a win. Funny now how he deeply cares about our success after his websites have been seized and shut down by the feds.

**Andy3568** · 11-28-13, 10:16 AM

He's taken these "polls" before, and they always come back as the majority of people covering the bet, resulting in a win. I was just looking at the 1-7-5 we've been discussing here, with no point buys.

**Wallco99** · 11-28-13, 10:43 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2013-14 System to Date: 9-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -30.21 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(11/27/13):
#8 N.Y. Knicks (+9½) (D) - Loss
#9 Milwaukee (+2½) (D) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 5-6
(B) 3-3
(C) 0-3
(D) 1-2
Losses: None

There are no system plays for (11/8/13)

Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

**KennyM10** · 11-28-13, 10:56 AM

The whole issue here mate is that most people would be completely wiped out going from plus 20 units to to minus 30 units. A 50 unit loss in one night and the same in the nhl thread, am I the bad guy or the one making sense. Seriously if following these two systems most are busy reloading here...
This type of loss two d losses is beyond reasonable. Now he will pile on the series trying to get the five or six of you to believe this works. If you have one million units sure anyone else Ouch!

**thelimit0310** · 11-28-13, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by KennyM10

The whole issue here mate is that most people would be completely wiped out going from plus 20 units to to minus 30 units. A 50 unit loss in one night and the same in the nhl thread, am I the bad guy or the one making sense. Seriously if following these two systems most are busy reloading here...
This type of loss two d losses is beyond reasonable. Now he will pile on the series trying to get the five or six of you to believe this works. If you have one million units sure anyone else Ouch!

+20 to -30 is a change of -50, so if you're bankroll is made up of 100 units, that's half. No reloading necessary unless you overstepped your bounds Kenny

**thelimit0310** · 11-28-13, 11:42 AM

Not the best night last night, but whatever, it's the holidays! Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

**Wallco99** · 11-28-13, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

+20 to -30 is a change of -50, so if you're bankroll is made up of 100 units, that's half. No reloading necessary unless you overstepped your bounds Kenny

Not to mention, if you were +20, your bankroll would have been 120 units at the outset of the bad night,. The constant bad math on her part in every post could explain her bitterness and her reason for failure in sports wagering. Happy Thanksgiving Limit.

**BCC585** · 11-28-13, 01:10 PM

Happy thanksgiving everyone
enjoy your day off

**thelimit0310** · 11-28-13, 01:23 PM

You too Wallco!

**KennyM10** · 11-28-13, 01:24 PM

Is that not special that two people have pointed out wallco posted two c plays as a b. What a joke now he will simply edit because two of you caught him on his nhl thread.

**Kev the Brit** · 11-29-13, 03:57 AM

Morrison 11/28 Results & 11/29 Plays

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**Kev the Brit** · 11-29-13, 04:22 AM

Daily Morrison Post - Important Change

Hi guys, Wallco published a 10 year back test at Post #625. The back test clearly indicates that the 1-7-5 (without filters) has out-performed the other betting variants. Therefore, with regard to his outstanding efforts I have decided, with immediate effect, to replace the filtered 1-7-5 strategy with the unfiltered 1-7-5 strategy. In addition to being more lucrative, which is what gambling strives for, the unfiltered strategy is very simple to operate.

This coming Sunday I will update the season so far (to Saturday 11/30) with the 1-7-5 unfiltered data.

Regards
Kev