John Morrison 2013-14 NBA Thread

[Kev the Brit]

Yep, Forgot to transfer that one from my paper to the spreadsheet.

Well, it was a handsome win for the system and you should add it to the stats. I don't think our accounts will miss the stray unit. Keep up the good work, buddy.

[Kev the Brit]

Morrison Alarm Clock

BUZZ, BUZZ, RING, RING !!
Time to get up folks, you've got 2 early bets to make today....

[Kev the Brit]

Morrison 11/30 Results & 12/1 Plays

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[knugen]

Wallco cant you mention it here when one of those bonusplays comes. I dont want to miss this extraunits. Thx

[PanamaKid]

Wallco cant you mention it here when one of those bonusplays comes. I dont want to miss this extraunits. Thx

You might want to track them yourself as that's always an option and helps with performing sanity checks as well.


In other news... I'm using SportsBook.com and for the last few plays, they lines have come out last for the JM plays, while all the other games are out way early. Has anyone else been experiencing this? If so, could they be "on to us?" Meaning... could this indicate a problem in the future?

[Wallco99]

Wallco cant you mention it here when one of those bonusplays comes. I dont want to miss this extraunits. Thx

Yes, I will. But I probably won't need to. All of those games are listed on the schedule I provided earlier in the year, so I'm sure Kevin will be including them in his post anyway. As I sais earlier, the N.Y. Knicks bonus play last week only got missed because I missed it when I made the schedule, it was nothing that Kevin did wrong. Hopefully the rest of them are on the schedule so that shouldn't happen again. But if anyone notices one, please feel free to mention it, but only AFTER Kevin has made his daily post and IF it doesn't already appear on there, which it most likely will.

[Wallco99]

Covers.com has Golden State at +1 and therefore covered by +2.

Golden State
Warriors




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Regular Season

Date	Vs	Score	Type	GS Line	O/U
11/29/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404316.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864416.html (OT)	Regular Season	W 7.5	O 204
11/27/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404047.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864406.html	Regular Season	W 4.5	U 206
11/26/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404101.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864395.html	Regular Season	P -1	U 207.5
11/23/13	covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team403993.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864377.html	Regular Season	L -4	O 199
11/22/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team403977.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864367.html	Regular Season	L -5	U 203
11/20/13	covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404049.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864354.html (OT)	Regular Season	L -5	U 189
11/18/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404031.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864335.html	Regular Season	W -8	U 195.5
11/16/13	covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404031.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864326.html	Regular Season	L -15.5	U 198.5
11/14/13	covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404316.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864305.html	Regular Season	L -5	O 206.5
11/12/13	covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404153.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864290.html	Regular Season	W -9	O 204.5
11/09/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404049.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864272.html	Regular Season	L 2	O 191.5
11/08/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404302.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864263.html	Regular Season	W 5.5	U 203.5
11/06/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team403995.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864248.html	Regular Season	W 1	U 209.5
11/04/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404083.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864229.html	Regular Season	W -7	U 211.5
11/02/13	covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team403975.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864221.html	Regular Season	P -11	U 207.5
10/31/13	@ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404135.html	L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864871.html	Regular Season	L 6	O 205.5
10/30/13	covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team403977.html	W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2013-2014/boxscore864199.html	Regular Season	W -12	O 206

Golden State was clearly -1 on 11/26/13. I still don't see where they are getting points. This is copied directly from Covers.com

[Wallco99]

I see where we have our dicrepancy. For some reason The daily page on covers that has the lines for all the games on one page has GS at +1, however, the individual team page for Golden State under past results (the one that I posted above) has Golden State at -1. This is the page that I used for ALL my backtesting, so if there is a discrepancy with the lines this should be the one used. I realize we don't use ScoresandOdds for this system, but since Covers had two different lines in two different places listed for the same game I checked ScoresandOdds to see what they had, it was also -1, and at no point since the opening of the bet were Golden State ever the favorite. I guess you can do whatever you want, but if you are going to post 1-7-5 results then you should base it on the same info I used. This may be the first time it ever happened, I don't know, but if this is a regular occurance on there, then our data will be different all year and the results being posted will be based on numbers that I never used to determine success of this bet strategy. Even the day the game happened there was a discussion in this thread about who was continuing with bet and who was stopping from the push. Since I had -1.5 on that bet, my decision was obvious, but most other people pushed that bet. Other than that one section of Covers, I have not seen anywhere else Golden State being the dog team, even for a portion of the day.

[Andy3568]

Yep, Forgot to transfer that one from my paper to the spreadsheet.

No problem. I normally do my own check before all the games just because I like to do it, and I did see that one but forgot to post a comment.

[Kev the Brit]

I see where we have our dicrepancy. For some reason The daily page on covers that has the lines for all the games on one page has GS at +1, however, the individual team page for Golden State under past results (the one that I posted above) has Golden State at -1. This is the page that I used for ALL my backtesting, so if there is a discrepancy with the lines this should be the one used. I realize we don't use ScoresandOdds for this system, but since Covers had two different lines in two different places listed for the same game I checked ScoresandOdds to see what they had, it was also -1, and at no point since the opening of the bet were Golden State ever the favorite. I guess you can do whatever you want, but if you are going to post 1-7-5 results then you should base it on the same info I used. This may be the first time it ever happened, I don't know, but if this is a regular occurance on there, then our data will be different all year and the results being posted will be based on numbers that I never used to determine success of this bet strategy. Even the day the game happened there was a discussion in this thread about who was continuing with bet and who was stopping from the push. Since I had -1.5 on that bet, my decision was obvious, but most other people pushed that bet. Other than that one section of Covers, I have not seen anywhere else Golden State being the dog team, even for a portion of the day.

That's fine. I'm glad you were able to discover the error on covers.com. I normally use the multi-game results page, which I will continue to use for easy access to multiple results. I'm sure you will keep me (and covers) straight. I'm now going to edit my posted stats to reflect the correct spread. Thanks

[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2013-14 System to Date: 14-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -25.21 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(11/30/13):
#13 Milwaukee (+2½) (B) – Win
#15 Minnesota (M/L) (A) – Win
#16 Cleveland (+4½) (A) – Win **

** Play not posted


v1 Plays
(A) 9-7
(B) 4-3
(C) 0-3
(D) 1-2
Losses: NYK (-18.45 u), MIL (-20.76 u)



There are no system plays for (12/1/13)


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

[Wallco99]

That's fine. I'm glad you were able to discover the error on covers.com. I normally use the multi-game results page, which I will continue to use for easy access to multiple results. I'm sure you will keep me (and covers) straight. I'm now going to edit my posted stats to reflect the correct spread. Thanks

It's fine to use that, but on games that have final scores within 1-2 points of the game line, it may be worth it to double check against the individual pages. I do the same thing as you, but I use the scores page on ScoresandOdds because I like the layout. But any game that I am grading from which I used Covers.com as my backtest site that ends up being a close score/line game, I will check also on Covers team page. You are doing an outstanding job, all of the errors are from plays before you took over or discrepancies of data on the same website. If we are on the same page then all is OK.

[Kev the Brit]

Morrison Results &amp; Profit/Loss Statement to Date: 11/1 - 11/30

MORRISON RESULTS & P/L FOR THE SEASON SO FAR: 11/1 - 11/30

Currently Published Morrison System:
3 point buy all bets @ odds -185/1.54

V1
Series scheduled: 12
Series filtered out: 2 (#6 - worst road team, #24 - most eff player injured)
Series complete: 10
Series stopped: 1 (#15 stopped after A Bet - big fav lost)
Completed series results:
A Bets: 6-4
B Bets: 1-2
C Bets: 2-0
Unit P/L:
9 wins = +9.00
1 stop (A) = -1.85
0 series loss = 0
V1 Total P/L = +7.15 units

V2
Series scheduled: 3
Series filtered out: 0
Series complete: 3
Series stopped: 0
Completed series results:
A Bets: 1-2
B Bets: 1-1
C Bets: 0-1
Unit P/L:
2 wins = +2.00
0 stop
1 series loss = -22.17
V2 Total P/L = -20.17 units

V3
Series scheduled: 14
Series filtered out: 1 (#21 - worst road team)
Series complete: 13
Series stopped: 1 (#10 stopped after B Bet - big fav lost)
Completed series results:
A Bets: 7-6
B Bets: 4-2
C Bets: 1-0
Unit P/L:
11 wins = +12.00
1 stop (B) = -7.13
series loss = 0
V3 Total P/L = +4.87 units

All Versions Summary
Series scheduled: 29
Series filtered out: 3 (see above for details)
Series complete: 26
Series stopped: 2 (1 @ A Bet & 1 @ B Bet; see above for details)
Completed series results:
A Bets: 14-12
B Bets: 6-5
C Bets: 3-1
Unit P/L:
23 wins = +23.00
2 stops (1 after A Bet @ -1.85, & 1 after B Bet @ -7.13) = -8.98
1 series lost = -22.17

Currently Published Morrison System Total P/L so far, for the period 11/1 to 11/23: -8.15 units
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Morrison 1-7-5 (Filtered) System
All bets ATS @ odds -110/1.91

Series scheduled: 29
Series complete: 29
Series stopped: 7 (after A Bet narrowly lost or pushed ATS)
Completed series results:
A: 10-17-2 (7 series stopped after A Bet, incl 2 series pushed out). 10 series wins @ 1 unit = +10.00 units; 5 series lost @ 1.10 units = -5.50 units; 2 series pushed @ 0.00 units. A Bet sub total: +4.50 units
B: 6-6. 6 series wins @ 7 units = B Bet sub total: +42.00 units
C: 3-3. 3 series win @ 5 units = +15.00 units; 3 series lost @ 26.52 units = -79.56 units. C Bet sub total = -64.56 units
Unit P/L:
A Bets: +4.50
B Bets: +42.00
C Bets: -64.56
Morrison 1-7-5 System (Filtered) Total P/L so far, for the period 11/1 to 11/30: -18.06

The Morrison 1-7-5 (Unfiltered) System stats will follow before the end of today, once I have collated all the data

The next comprehensive Morrison statement for the season so far will be posted on Sun 12/8

[Kev the Brit]

It's fine to use that, but on games that have final scores within 1-2 points of the game line, it may be worth it to double check against the individual pages. I do the same thing as you, but I use the scores page on ScoresandOdds because I like the layout. But any game that I am grading from which I used Covers.com as my backtest site that ends up being a close score/line game, I will check also on Covers team page. You are doing an outstanding job, all of the errors are from plays before you took over or discrepancies of data on the same website. If we are on the same page then all is OK.

I had it in mind to that anyway. However, it looks like the error on the covers.com page was a "+" versus "-" typo, which means it could have been, say, "-10" instead of "+10". Anyway, I'll do my best to get it right.

I'm now about to have a stab at your unfiltered stats for the year so far before posting them this evening. With no filters to screw me up, I'm hoping it should be straight forward......

[Andy3568]

Kev, you may have mentioned it in a previous post and I missed it, but what lines do you use for 3-point buys? I know it only affects the total units if a series loses, but I've seen it at various books from -170 to -220.

[Kev the Brit]

Kev, you may have mentioned it in a previous post and I missed it, but what lines do you use for 3-point buys? I know it only affects the total units if a series loses, but I've seen it at various books from -170 to -220.

I use -185 (Bet365)

[Kev the Brit]

Morrison 1-7-5 System Results &amp; Profit/Loss Statement to Date: 11/1 - 11/30

All please note that from here onwards I will not use the term "unfiltered" to describe the unfiltered system. I will simply name it "Morrison 1-7-5 System". The filtered version will be named, guess what? The "Morrison 1-7-5 (Filtered) System"

Morrison 1-7-5 System
All bets ATS @ odds -110/1.91. Source: covers.com

Series completed: 29
Series stopped: 2
Results:
A Bets: 10-17-2. 10 series wins @ 1 unit = A Bet sub total: +10.00 units
B Bets: 8-9. 8 series wins @ 7 units = B Bet sub total: +56.00 units
C Bets: 6-3. 6 series win @ 5 units = +30.00 units; 3 series lost @ 26.52 units = -79.56 units. C Bet sub total = -49.56 units
Unit P/L:
A Bets: +10.00
B Bets: +56.00
C Bets: -49.56

Morrison 1-7-5 System Total P/L so far, for the period 11/1 to 11/30: +16.44


The next comprehensive Morrison statement for the season so far will be posted on Sun 12/8

PS. If you see 1 SBR point below from Wallco, you can assume that my stats are correct. Wallco?

[Kev the Brit]

A good day for Morrison

[Wallco99]

Kevin, did you get my two PM's?

[Kev the Brit]

Morrison 12/1 Results &amp; 12/2 Plays

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[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2013-14 System to Date: 14-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -25.21 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0


v1 Plays
(A) 9-7
(B) 4-3
(C) 0-3
(D) 1-2
Losses: None



There are no system plays for (12/2/13)


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

[gtakare]

Great thread! I am playing the JM 1-7-5 but does any one have a "next calculation spreadsheet" or any other good spreadsheet to track on my bets?

Thanks!

[Boyne]

Hi gtakare, go to this thread, page 3, post 78 where a truly wonderful spreadsheet with all the matches listed will appear before your very eyes. Please donate a point or two to the author who obviously went to a lot of time and trouble.

[Kev the Brit]

Morrison 12/2 Results &amp; 12/3 Plays

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[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2013-14 System to Date: 14-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -25.21 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0


v1 Plays
(A) 9-7
(B) 4-3
(C) 0-3
(D) 1-2
Losses: None



Games for (12/3/13):
#17 Orlando @ Philadelphia (M/L) (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#18 Toronto (+7½) @ Golden State (A) (10:35 pm EST)


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in posts #44 & #45.

Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses.

[Wallco99]

The Toronto game was missed in my earlier post, it has now been added to the list of plays . Thank you Andy for pointing that out.

[gtakare]

Hi gtakare, go to this thread, page 3, post 78 where a truly wonderful spreadsheet with all the matches listed will appear before your very eyes. Please donate a point or two to the author who obviously went to a lot of time and trouble.

Thats great! Do anyone have a excel file for money management for 1-7-5 system?

[BCC585]

Orlando helps us out with .09 left

[Andy3568]

Orlando helped us out.

[Wallco99]

Orlando helped us out.

Yes, we got heads and tails on that one.

[Andy3568]

For some reason, the SBR Sportbook shows Orlando as a loss. I sent them a message, because they definitely got that wrong.

[knugen]

What happening.. raptors were up 17 buy half and still lose by 9.. how is that possible.. well 2 new 7 units bet then

[KennyM10]

Now this was funny craptors up by 27 krugen speaks and they not only blow the lead they blow the cover too and lose by 9. Warriors warrior crowd chanting at the end. Nice fade thanks.

[KennyM10]

And he comes back and edits post LOL knugen.

[knugen]

Good for us kenny. We will cash in 7 units instead for 1