The JM "Chase system" $1000 bank roll

cartytay · 02-24-09, 11:08 PM

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Magregus · 02-24-09, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by jsmith00075

Charlotte +12 here.. :P

Funny the line was -7 ..........

cartytay · 02-24-09, 11:43 PM

i got them at + 10 as well and it pushed

Magregus · 02-24-09, 11:44 PM

Ok we have a push, what does that mean ? Do we go to Bet C??

Vincepcion · 02-24-09, 11:45 PM

I saw it at +6.5 this morning so sorry to anyone who bet that

I stayed away from this series...I'll wait for the e-mail from JM in a couple hours

jsmith00075 · 02-24-09, 11:47 PM

That was a close one :P

W0lfy · 02-24-09, 11:48 PM

Had them at +9. Love how DJ pulled the ball out for that 3 for Felton at the end. It was a 4 on 1. Unbelievable.

cartytay · 02-24-09, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Magregus

Ok we have a push, what does that mean ? Do we go to Bet C??

For some strange reason JM considers a push as a win b/c it didnt loose. LOLOLOL

ridiculous!! so there will not be a c bet according to his system rules. But I am going to bet them tomorrow for my own system of betting and i will bet the same amount as a b bet

cartytay · 02-24-09, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by W0lfy

Had them at +9. Love how DJ pulled the ball out for that 3 for Felton at the end. It was a 4 on 1. Unbelievable.

Ya wtf was that

texhooper · 02-24-09, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by jj28

cant this system go wrong if people get it at different lines. Ive seen the lines change by as much as 1.5 points for some of these system bets. now, if the rule is, when you hit in a series, you're done with that series. Well, some people can lose if they got the line less than what others got it at. if you were to lose by 1/2 point on a bet c, that can be devastating. Any answers to that dilemma?

interesting, i'm in this dilemma. i had charlotte +9.5. so what the **** now?

Magregus · 02-24-09, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by cartytay

For some strange reason JM considers a push as a win b/c it didnt loose. LOLOLOL

ridiculous!! so there will not be a c bet according to his system rules. But I am going to bet them tomorrow for my own system of betting and i will bet the same amount as a b bet

Yeah interesting that but what about the people who lost as they had +6.5 line not +7. Bit weird.

texhooper · 02-25-09, 12:02 AM

charlotte is a bet c for me tomorrow. bring it on sacto. i don't care what that fraud says, he got me into this, now i'm taking the law into my own hands. what a stupid, rigged ****ing system. i hate that i bought into it.

cartytay · 02-25-09, 12:08 AM

Tex.

the system is not rigged it does work. im 113-0 betting this way and jm is 62-0

Magregus · 02-25-09, 12:09 AM

Plus if you did Bet A, now Bet B is push and considered win you've actually lost money so how the heck is that any good? olololol

texhooper · 02-25-09, 12:11 AM

because bet b is not a win for me, because i had charlotte +9.5. if the system says stop because you people that got +10, but i lose, i could care less about your record.

jj28 · 02-25-09, 12:22 AM

WTH? Earlier in this thread, I brought up the point differential spreads that people would get. NO system is perfect and today is a great example.

I got 9.5. For some reason, that 0.5 point was haunting me all day. Now, it was for good reason. Every system has a flaw, and this is it. Not everybody gets the same lines.

cartytay · 02-25-09, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by texhooper

because bet b is not a win for me, because i had charlotte +9.5. if the system says stop because you people that got +10, but i lose, i could care less about your record.

I agree with you 100% man how or why JM considers a push a "win" is absurd especially after the "A" bet lost

netinfo · 02-25-09, 12:26 AM

I think it is best to buy that extra half point whenever one plays this system. I bought 3.5 points, at +10, and I got a push. I'm going for another bet on Charlotte tomorrow, so I can try again to recover my bet A loss.

netinfo

sizzur · 02-25-09, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by cartytay

Sizz, what line did u get on the A bet v. Miami? I had them at +3.5 and they lost by 6

sorry for the late reply cartylay, i din win the a or b bet.. the most i can buy is 2pts for my local book.. did it hit for u already?

cartytay · 02-25-09, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by sizzur

sorry for the late reply cartylay, i din win the a or b bet.. the most i can buy is 2pts for my local book.. did it hit for u already?

ya man they lost by 6 and with buying the 3 points they covered on the A bet v. Miami

texhooper · 02-25-09, 12:41 AM

jj28, i wasn't attacking you, i was only citing what you were saying.

i personally think it's beyond ****ed up that the proprietor of the system considers a push a win and won't claim any losses suffered by those who failed to get his line and continue on to recoup the losses they had from bet a. because a push won't get that back, will it?

cartytay, you're ok in my book.

this shit is for housewives who want to make an extra income from home. if you can cap, you shouldn't even blink at the opportunity to make a ****ing unit on a road trip, and i have no idea why i thought this was a good idea in the first place.

whatisit · 02-25-09, 12:46 AM

Cartytay do you have a thread where you post your plays? You basically bet on any team that has 3 straight road games regardless of conference?

smallbluedonkey · 02-25-09, 12:49 AM

Does anybody know of any Aussie based sportsbooks that allow you to buy the three points required by JM's method?

I joined up at centrebet and they don't allow buying points, only betting on an "alternate line" at +/- 5 points.

texhooper · 02-25-09, 12:51 AM

cartytay's got enough balls to call a spade a spade. a push isn't a ****ing win, and if you want to tuck your tail in between your legs and run away after a push, then you don't have a lot of faith in your system.

is this really what john morrison says, that if a game pushes, the series is over? because if he's going on to bet c, then i have a lot more respect for this system.

cartytay · 02-25-09, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by whatisit

Cartytay do you have a thread where you post your plays? You basically bet on any team that has 3 straight road games regardless of conference?

well i never really started a thread of my own. I just contributed to these road trip series threads and if anyone asked I would email them a copy of the games I play. And to answer your question yes i play all 3 game road series regardless of confrence and it has not lost this year.

there have been about 15 or so people on this forum that i have emailed the spreadsheet and they can verify that it has not lost. or you can go to vegas insider and look up all 3 game road trips on your own to verify yourself

brooks85 · 02-25-09, 12:54 AM

I have 3 C bets tomorrow. Atl, Cha, and Det.

cartytay · 02-25-09, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by texhooper

cartytay's got enough balls to call a spade a spade. a push isn't a ****ing win, and if you want to tuck your tail in between your legs and run away after a push, then you don't have a lot of faith in your system.

is this really what john morrison says, that if a game pushes, the series is over? because if he's going on to bet c, then i have a lot more respect for this system.

yes i back this guys method 99%. but i do not agree on a couple points of his sytem. 1. i dont think some of his filters make since and the biggest fault of his system imo is about a "push" if the series dosent win outright I dont see how you can consider that a "win" especially after the "A" lost

for the record im riding Charlotte tomorrow v. sacramento regardless if JM emails as a play or not. if he does not that BS to the guys who strictly follows his sytem

brooks85 · 02-25-09, 01:01 AM

I would not suggest anyone jump in on this system half-way through the season. The road-trip system WILL lose this season, only a matter of time. So, if you jump in half-way , and dont have the bankroll to support it, you are wasting your time. I had to cut my bets back a lot personally.

cartytay · 02-25-09, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

I have 3 C bets tomorrow. Atl, Cha, and Det.

Brooks what line did you get on ATL "B" bet? they were -7 and won by 5......... and yes i am betting cha and det as well for "C" bets

texhooper · 02-25-09, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

I have 3 C bets tomorrow. Atl, Cha, and Det.

detroit? are you referring to the john morrison system? that doesn't qualify at all, not by the largest stretch of the imagination.

and atlanta is going to be a loss. denver is going to push their shit in. but if you didn't win at sacramento, it would be a d bet anyway as it'll be the fourth game of their road trip.

how many points do you buy?

brooks85 · 02-25-09, 01:09 AM

Atlanta played their first set of 3 games, and covered the A bet against Detroit.
The next set of 3 games(6 game road trip) they had +4.5 at portland and they lost by 10. The B bet was Atl +8 at Utah and they lost by 19. Thus, Denver would be the C bet. I am not talking about JM filters, just the straight up 3-road game bets.

cartytay · 02-25-09, 01:09 AM

Tex.

the Det. and Atlanta bets are part of the way I bet. Nothing to do with the morrison system at all. Like I said I bet all 3 game road trips regardless of conference and i have emailed the plays to several people on this forum

brooks85 · 02-25-09, 01:12 AM

So you have 2 C bets tomorrow correct cartytay?(not counting your bet for Cha)

texhooper · 02-25-09, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

I would not suggest anyone jump in on this system half-way through the season. The road-trip system WILL lose this season, only a matter of time. So, if you jump in half-way , and dont have the bankroll to support it, you are wasting your time. I had to cut my bets back a lot personally.

this isn't about my bankroll, this is about the system. i can handle the loss, i'm just a little too into justice i guess. for this guy to turn his back on people that paid money for his horseshit little east/west system and say "sorry, but that's all i got...if you got a push you lose, and if you got a loss, well, **** you even more"...i ain't ok with that.

i didn't buy it, though, as i was testing it out to see if it would be worth it. but now i know it isn't. not even by a longshot, and i'm glad as hell i didn't buy it.

and don't give me this "don't jump on it halfway though the season" horseshit...all you guys do is gloat about how incredible the record is. why in the name of GOD should it matter when someone decides to try it out?

brooks85 · 02-25-09, 01:18 AM

No one is talking about your bankroll. I am talking about ANYONE's bankroll that plans on using this method. the SYSTEM WILL LOSE THIS YEAR and more than once. Look back the past 10 years, I DID. And when the losers come, if the person has not built up enough money or already has a high enough bankroll they will not be able to support a loss. So, anyways you have 2 "c" bets tomorrow correcT? And again I am NOT talking about JM system in case others are confused.