The JM "Chase system" $1000 bank roll

[Dexter]

You really think this will win going forward? If the max progression is doubling up 3 times, and you're buying at most 3 points...

I'd wager 100k that this system will lose money over the next 400 plays versus average market lines. The only requirement is that the system must be spelled out - no choice in what is played if it "qualifies".

If you or anyone else is interested, I'll set it up at matchbook. This system is nothing more than one of many scams. If it's not a scam, I'm sure the "winners" would have no trouble matching my bet.

how can you not have a choice? like i said earlier, some handicapping has to be involved. if the filters are clearly spelled out (ie, a player of >15ppg is out) they should be part of the systems overall success or failure.

while it would be convinent to close your eyes, and make the plays - thats just possible in the world of sports gambling.

[Justin7]

how can you not have a choice? like i said earlier, some handicapping has to be involved. if the filters are clearly spelled out (ie, a player of >15ppg is out) they should be part of the systems overall success or failure.

while it would be convinent to close your eyes, and make the plays - thats just possible in the world of sports gambling.

Ok, handicapping allowed.

Same offer: 400 plays. I bet his handicapping won't have a 7% return on risk. A system that hits 60% at -110 would have a return of 16%, so this should be trivial.

I bet for a living, and nothing I've seen in this thread convinces me that he can do half as well as claimed. If you are going to sell your information, you better damn well have something worth paying for. That's doesn't look like the case here.

[pico]

Ok, handicapping allowed.

Same offer: 400 plays. I bet his handicapping won't have a 7% return on risk. A system that hits 60% at -110 would have a return of 16%, so this should be trivial.

I bet for a living, and nothing I've seen in this thread convinces me that he can do half as well as claimed. If you are going to sell your information, you better damn well have something worth paying for. That's doesn't look like the case here.

[Dexter]

Ok, handicapping allowed.

Same offer: 400 plays. I bet his handicapping won't have a 7% return on risk. A system that hits 60% at -110 would have a return of 16%, so this should be trivial.

I bet for a living, and nothing I've seen in this thread convinces me that he can do half as well as claimed. If you are going to sell your information, you better damn well have something worth paying for. That's doesn't look like the case here.

well, its not really a "claim" when the numbers are there. i'm 20-0 since starting on 1/16. even if lose an entire series right now at -15 units, im still up for the year.

i under your skepticism, but this system appears true. my buddy even crunched the numbers last year - and it was great

[Justin7]

well, its not really a "claim" when the numbers are there. i'm 20-0 since starting on 1/16. even if lose an entire series right now at -15 units, im still up for the year.

i under your skepticism, but this system appears true. my buddy even crunched the numbers last year - and it was great

Then you'll accept my offer?

[Dexter]

Then you'll accept my offer?

offer to do what?? bet 100K with some stranger on the internet. no thx.

dude - go pull up all of the games this year. i was skeptical at first as well. ive seen one series lose all year, and that was apparently filtered out by morrison himself.

[Justin7]

offer to do what?? bet 100K with some stranger on the internet. no thx.

dude - go pull up all of the games this year. i was skeptical at first as well. ive seen one series lose all year, and that was apparently filtered out by morrison himself.

Do you know what matchbook is?

[Dexter]

Do you know what matchbook is?

not really - i know its not a straight up "sportsbook."

[Justin7]

not really - i know its not a straight up "sportsbook."

If you or anyone else decide that this system will win going forward, look up Matchbook. Or set up a wager at any "A" rated sportsbook, and I'll bet against the system, up to 100k.

If you've won in the past, great. Take a withdrawal. Mark my words though - no creator of this system will take my bet, because they are a substantial underdog to win.

[alid]

betus.com

based on the results of this system and the fact betus.com adjust the points spread on jm plays is there any reason why you cannot bet the opposite team to system using the betus spread to beat them at there own game.often they will give up to three point difference to other books.
is there any results on all games and spreads on these games.
or am i looking at it upside down due to being in australia

[cartytay]

Justin,

I except your challenge. but 400 games will take way to long. how bout we do all of next season. Ill even make it easy for you. no filters. I will play all 3 game road trips using to JM method. we can bet more if you like. Ill go as high as 250K?

[Justin7]

Justin,

I except your challenge. but 400 games will take way to long. how bout we do all of next season. Ill even make it easy for you. no filters. I will play all 3 game road trips using to JM method. we can bet more if you like. Ill go as high as 250K?

Do you mean you accept?

Identify the rules of engagement when a play is made. A progressive roulette player can be a favorite to win (despite having -EV) if the sequence is short enough.

If we find acceptable rules, you can bet as much as you like. At matchbook, there are probably millions of dollars that would oppose this system. you'd probably get a price better than even money as well - although the more bets made, the higher your payout would be.

[pico]

if there is a contest. i'll put up some money on justin's side.

[007Fatty]

I want in on this!! hahaa

[cartytay]

Do you mean you accept?

Identify the rules of engagement when a play is made. A progressive roulette player can be a favorite to win (despite having -EV) if the sequence is short enough.

If we find acceptable rules, you can bet as much as you like. At matchbook, there are probably millions of dollars that would oppose this system. you'd probably get a price better than even money as well - although the more bets made, the higher your payout would be.

yes I meant accept lol. i was typing from the iphone. I am good with whatever you would like to do. What are you trying to prove? that the system is not +ev over what time frame. I have a 30K a week bankroll (With local) and about a 100k spread with sportsbook and betus. The only reason i use them is for the -170 price buying the 3 points. so im willing to bet about whatever you like for the nba next year or next 2 years? you can pm if you would like and we can figure something out

[saro7]

I've been using the john morrison system for a couple years now and I have to say that it indeed does work just as well as he advertises it. This challenge is going to be interesting but I can tell say that I would NOT want to bet against the system in any way. It uses progression but no more than twice. So far this NBA season the system on the 61-0 record, 60 of them were won on the very first or second bet, and only once did the system needed to go to a C bet, which was due to the Chris Bosh injury.

I can understand Justin's skepticism also but it's hard to be a skeptic looking over these results. There's about 80 games a season so to make it to 400 games you'd have to keep this challenge alive for 5 years. Keep that in mind.

[Justin7]

yes I meant accept lol. i was typing from the iphone. I am good with whatever you would like to do. What are you trying to prove? that the system is not +ev over what time frame. I have a 30K a week bankroll (With local) and about a 100k spread with sportsbook and betus. The only reason i use them is for the -170 price buying the 3 points. so im willing to bet about whatever you like for the nba next year or next 2 years? you can pm if you would like and we can figure something out

Here's where we go to "market" prices. The fair market price buying 3 full points is NOT -170. At TheGreek, you lay -220. I don't believe any other "A" rated books let you buy 3 full points.

Any monkey can beat NBA getting 3 full points at +3. You could blindly play every dog at +3.5 to +5.5 (buying 3), or every favorite of -6 to -10 (this is quick, and you could optimize it further).

Find me 2 books rated "B-" or better that let you buy 3 full points at -170. BetUS? Sportsbook.com? Are you kidding me? Especially Sportsbook, they could give you +170 on 3 points - it doesn't matter, since they won't pay you if you win big.

[saro7]

Betjamaica is A rated and they let you buy 3 points for 170.

[cartytay]

Here's where we go to "market" prices. The fair market price buying 3 full points is NOT -170. At TheGreek, you lay -220. I don't believe any other "A" rated books let you buy 3 full points.

Any monkey can beat NBA getting 3 full points at +3. You could blindly play every dog at +3.5 to +5.5 (buying 3), or every favorite of -6 to -10 (this is quick, and you could optimize it further).

Find me 2 books rated "B-" or better that let you buy 3 full points at -170. BetUS? Sportsbook.com? Are you kidding me? Especially Sportsbook, they could give you +170 on 3 points - it doesn't matter, since they won't pay you if you win big.

I have had no problems getting paid with the sites thru Football season i have not cashed out with BBall yet but like i said i also use a local guy. As far as A rated or B rated or whatever why would i lay 220 when i get 170? But whatever you want to do for the wager works for me...

[Alpinestars7]

You can get -170 at the greek on phone wagers only online is it -220

[Lets_Get_Money]

To the Honorable Moderator of course the system will lose eventually, It lost the 1st Series of the year but I'm gonna echo what other people said if your smart and disciplined you can make moey with the system.

[alid]

noone

based on the results of this system and the fact betus.com adjust the points spread on jm plays is there any reason why you cannot bet the opposite team to system using the betus spread to beat them at there own game.often they will give up to three point difference to other books.
is there any results on all games and spreads on these games.
or am i looking at it upside down due to being in australia

noone can advise......i know you are all looking forwards to the big this system cannot work vs it can work 100k stand off but in the real world i have an idea....

[pico]

all these new posters are defending this system. someone is trying to sell it really hard. seen these type of scams at the forex forum all the time. i have a library of metatrader programs that suppose can make you a millionaire. pm me if you're interested. i'll sell you the whole package of over 100 programs for 5k.

[jtnguyen79]

nice one pico you got the forex made easy hehe

red light sell green light buy

[CashMoney]

all these new posters are defending this system. someone is trying to sell it really hard. seen these type of scams at the forex forum all the time. i have a library of metatrader programs that suppose can make you a millionaire. pm me if you're interested. i'll sell you the whole package of over 100 programs for 5k.

???? No one is trying to "sell" the system. I guy who bought the system decided to share it with SBR. What's wrong with sharing the love? Afterall, aren't we all here to win some $$$?

[MJT1212]

Who signed that "red sox suck" picture Cash money millionaire?

[NBA Hero]

cashmoney,

THATS THE RIGHT ATTITUDE!!!!
about the selling,msg might not be meantf or you. somebody is selling

[dbartinbwgc]

For what I have seen nobody is selling the system here.
We are offering what we came across to share and maybe
help other people win also
The JM NBA and new JM MLB system, I never offered to sell it to
any of the people who sent me a PM.

I see all kind of "systems" on these threads.
Road game, 70%, over/under, or what ever.
But if you say it is a JM system everyone starts
hating.

[Dexter]

Here's where we go to "market" prices. The fair market price buying 3 full points is NOT -170. At TheGreek, you lay -220. I don't believe any other "A" rated books let you buy 3 full points.

Any monkey can beat NBA getting 3 full points at +3. You could blindly play every dog at +3.5 to +5.5 (buying 3), or every favorite of -6 to -10 (this is quick, and you could optimize it further).

Find me 2 books rated "B-" or better that let you buy 3 full points at -170. BetUS? Sportsbook.com? Are you kidding me? Especially Sportsbook, they could give you +170 on 3 points - it doesn't matter, since they won't pay you if you win big.

and while betus may give you 3 points at -170, their lines on the jm games are always 1-2 points off from the consensus elsewhere...

i do 2 at -150...works just fine at any book not named betus

[SlowRoll]

all these new posters are defending this system. someone is trying to sell it really hard. seen these type of scams at the forex forum all the time. i have a library of metatrader programs that suppose can make you a millionaire. pm me if you're interested. i'll sell you the whole package of over 100 programs for 5k.

Pico.. You cannot be serious bro... Take that $hit to CraigsList!

[cartytay]

I am not trying to sell anyone on this forum anything. I paid for it myself. All I am saying is it will turn a profit after the nba season. So anyone who doubts that it does not work I am willing to wager up to 250k. We can use escrow to hold the $. For all you haters it will be the easiest $ you ever made. Please PM if you would like to finalize the bet

[cartytay]

I will even make it easy for you haters. I will play all 3 game road trips with no filters. If I don't turn a profit over an entire season the 250k is yours. And like I stated above I am willing to escrow the $....

[whatisit]

^^Don't make it easy bro, play the system how its supposed to be played. That's what the bet should be, playing the system exactly as its defined....if you change up the system, they're not betting against the JM system, they'd just be betting against their version of the system, which is not the same.

[unique7685]

Has anyone provided the complete schedule of the game series for JM system?

[CashMoney]

Who signed that "red sox suck" picture Cash money millionaire?

True story....

Kid is at Fenway with his Dad and sees Shelly Duncan going into the stadium and asks for his autograph. Duncan wrote "Red Sox Suck" and signed it LOL.

The picture actually ran in the Boston papers.