SO why is this system being sold at sp0rtsbettingchamp.com if people can just get it here for free??
Because its a free world and we can share if we want to. Also, John Morrison sells the system but he did not make this system. Betting road teams playing out of their conference has been around for years. John Morrison's twist is he wants you to buy 3 points and chase a loss. I personally don't do either.
You can also get his system for free just by doing a Google Search.
John Morrison is great at marketing. He makes a ton off of new users buying his system. This forum will not even put a dent in those profits.
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NBA Hero
SBR MVP
12-05-08
1886
#143
thats what this forum is for,... sharing. GL to our picks.
go phoe and mia
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#144
Well, I can't quite get a strong grasp on the Atl/Pho game. You see... an injury only counts when the player scores 15 or more points on average. Horford is out - he only scores 10 points a game BUT is a Huge contributor to the defense.
I'll tell you what... I'm playing this game but I'm going lighter than usual.
So
Atlanta +9 (-170) 1 Unit
Newcomers: I suggest you split your A bet in half and bet 85 to win 50 (or whatever... based on your Roll)
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Dana4U
SBR Sharp
10-28-08
375
#145
How many points did you end up buying to get to +9? Looks like 2 right now.
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black666
SBR Hustler
01-02-09
86
#146
it all depends on the sportsbook you bet at.
at pinnacle (where I bet) I get atlanta +9 at -150 (buying 2 points)
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#147
As of right now I plan on buying 2. But there's been a lot of $$ put on Phoenix as of late so the line may move up a bit for us. I'll wait just a bit longer.
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peterpan19
Restricted User
11-02-08
3377
#148
JohnMorr08
so far the system looks really good,
if I undertsood you correct you would only bet half of an A bet today, so if my normal A bet is 200 you would only bet 100 (or would I bet enough to win 100?)
my b bet would be 500 and the C bet 1700 ?
thx
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#149
Based on winning $100 on this series (-170) your bets would be:
A 170 to win 100
B 459 to win 270
C 1239 to win 729
Believe me I know that the numbers are hard to stomach but bottom line this season it's 34-11 individually and 34-0 as a chase. So again, start out SMALL if your bankroll can't take it.
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#150
The line went up a hook... Buying 2
Atlanta +9.5 (-170) 1 Unit
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Dana4U
SBR Sharp
10-28-08
375
#151
How do you know which game to play?
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Axis
SBR MVP
01-08-09
1255
#152
^^
click the link half way up the page and read it. Explains it all.
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darkenergy
SBR MVP
01-08-09
4013
#153
I was put a wager on ATL + 7.5 earlier, forget to buy 2 point, hope I'll be ok.
Doesn't look like a good start so far. All the NFL's birds are doing so well, what's happened to this NBA's bird???
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cs11787
SBR MVP
08-26-08
1088
#154
Hey John glad to see were doing the same thing. Looks like we both cashed in on ATL tonight!!! The only difference between you and me is I dont buy points. I cant buy points from my local and I really dont see the need. Looks like our next play will be Por -1 @ Phil tomorrow. We should get it early though Because the public is already all over Portland! BOL!
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#155
I'm glad that you have had success! But please don't lead people here to believe that you don't need to buy the points. Respectfully, if it works for you great. But 6 series have been won with extra points so far this year!! That makes a BIG difference.... it is a huge part of this system.
We are obviously NOT "doing the same thing" because Portland is NOT a play tomorrow!
Portland began their series on Monday at Chicago - We took them ML and won on the first bet!
Good Luck with your picks though.
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#156
26 - 13 - 1 +37 Units (Chase 26 - 0)
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DevilDog
SBR High Roller
12-27-08
190
#157
I am so happy people are starting to see the power of systems!! This system is great...really it is! I have been with this system since last year and have done well with it!
You need to use the point buying system! As mentioned there would have been six losses so far without buying the points. But listen....with systems like this you win so often that even a loss can be spread out over other chases.
I challenge anyone to do better with "regular" handicapping than a system like this. It just is not going to happen. I have been doing this for 35 years. If you follow the system you will do well.
Read all the post in this thread...you will see that money management with a system like this is KEY. Absolutely KEY.
Thank you JohnMorr for doing what you have done. I already knew about this but just wasn't going to post it. I am now glad you did because I love to see people do well. Shame on me for being so f'n selfish!
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cs11787
SBR MVP
08-26-08
1088
#158
Oh yes I over looked that game just as I did Orlando tonight. Our next game then should be SA on the 16th correct?
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ManBearPig
SBR MVP
12-04-08
2473
#159
So what do you do in the case you dont bet the first game but they cover and you wanna bet the second?? Do you just leave the game alone cuz they already hit. See Portland for example...
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ManBearPig
SBR MVP
12-04-08
2473
#160
Originally posted by cs11787
Oh yes I over looked that game just as I did Orlando tonight. Our next game then should be SA on the 16th correct?
It looks like MIL on Friday as well against SAC...Also is Miami out since they covered already?
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DevilDog
SBR High Roller
12-27-08
190
#161
Yes, the system is for the team (like Portland) to cover one out of the three road games starting with the first game. So since Portland won yesterday the deal is done with them. Just like the other day the deal was done when Orlando beat San Antonio. And done tonight on the Hawks when they covered against the Suns.
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Smacksmiter
SBR MVP
12-20-08
1169
#162
I must say I am fascinated by this system... my great thanks to you for sharing it. There are so many who can benefit from this who have lost huge amounts of money to books...
Thank you very much!
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Axis
SBR MVP
01-08-09
1255
#163
Originally posted by ManBearPig
It looks like MIL on Friday as well against SAC...Also is Miami out since they covered already?
From what I read, it's one and done. Once they win, stop betting on that series/play.
And yes, on the 16th both San Antonio and Milwaukee start road trips @ opposite conference teams.
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cs11787
SBR MVP
08-26-08
1088
#164
Look what would have happened though if you wouldve started over as long as theirs three games left. You wouldve played Orl tonight and won and that wouldve been it so you wouldve hit Orl twice. And why only games on the road out of conference???
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#165
Yes - The next play will not be until the 16th. I'll be looking at:
Milwaukee @ Sacramento
San Antonio @ Philadelphia
cs - The system is what it is. I assure you an extension of the series like you pointed out HAS been tested LONG TERM and it is NOT profitable. The whole point is that it is a 3 tier CHASE. So, when you win you are done. Move on.
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Dexter
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-24-08
25829
#166
Originally posted by cs11787
Hey John glad to see were doing the same thing. Looks like we both cashed in on ATL tonight!!! The only difference between you and me is I dont buy points. I cant buy points from my local and I really dont see the need. Looks like our next play will be Por -1 @ Phil tomorrow. We should get it early though Because the public is already all over Portland! BOL!
bro - thats a major part of the system - also, portland already played their first road game...
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Dexter
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-24-08
25829
#167
Originally posted by cs11787
Look what would have happened though if you wouldve started over as long as theirs three games left. You wouldve played Orl tonight and won and that wouldve been it so you wouldve hit Orl twice. And why only games on the road out of conference???
lol - whats wrong with the system the way it is?
i love how your questioning a guy who is producing (and sharing for free) a rock solid system....
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Dana4U
SBR Sharp
10-28-08
375
#168
Next Plays
Maybe play both scenarios?
Another question - what is the sensitivity to the 3-point play? It appears that you are content with 2-points and in some cases, all the way down to zero points (the ML example). How do you determine when buying points is required and how many?
Originally posted by JohnMorr08
Yes - The next play will not be until the 16th. I'll be looking at:
Milwaukee @ Sacramento
San Antonio @ Philadelphia
cs - The system is what it is. I assure you an extension of the series like you pointed out HAS been tested LONG TERM and it is NOT profitable. The whole point is that it is a 3 tier CHASE. So, when you win you are done. Move on.
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DevilDog
SBR High Roller
12-27-08
190
#169
Guys! Stick to the system! It has been well tested and has been proven year after year! ONE win and DONE.
As far as buying points. JohnMorr does it slightly different than the system in that he does NOT buy three points all of the time. I would recommend that you do...the time you don't is the time you get beat by a point or so and regret not buying three.
As an example: The Miami Heat against the Kings. Miami had actually gone to a five point favorite (with some books) in that game. If you had not bought the points you would have lost the bet and there are probably four to seven more examples of that this year.
But since the three point buy was made the game won. The system is undefeated this year! Why in the hell would you want to change it. Well....I know why some would...because they want more plays! Do NOT get greedy when betting sports. Just do NOT do it!
The system produces enough plays.
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Smogs
SBR MVP
12-31-08
4173
#170
I'm jumping aboard on the 16th, i only saw it and read it last night and from the record and analysis on the forum, its brilliant. i love how some people want to differ from it, dont give the bookies a chance
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DevilDog
SBR High Roller
12-27-08
190
#171
I did not see Dana4U's post. An example of going with the ML happened a couple of nights ago with Portland. They were about 3 to 3.5 favs. Buying three points would have gotten the spread to 0 or -.5. Well if the ML is about -150 to take Portland it would have been better to do that than buy three points at -170.
So the play was on the Portland ML at -140 to -155 whichever is was the best and you could get.
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Dana4U
SBR Sharp
10-28-08
375
#172
Thanks for the Clarification
Gotcha ... thanks!
Originally posted by DevilDog
I did not see Dana4U's post. An example of going with the ML happened a couple of nights ago with Portland. They were about 3 to 3.5 favs. Buying three points would have gotten the spread to 0 or -.5. Well if the ML is about -150 to take Portland it would have been better to do that than buy three points at -170.
So the play was on the Portland ML at -140 to -155 whichever is was the best and you could get.
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JohnMorr08
SBR Sharp
11-18-08
366
#173
I love it! It's great to have eveyone aboard. Just please do not deviate from the system. As for buying different points - I am afterall a Capper at heart so I try to justify the points I buy. So If I cap the game and don't think I need the points or need less, or I figure I shouldn't bet the series at all... then I follow my capping skills and intuition.
With everyone aboard we'll surely get some conversation about each series as well.
Be careful. Point being - the very first series this year should have been Sacramento (look it up)... I did NOT play that series because they were Atrocious... they had 0 wins at that time. I passed on the series. And it LOST. So read the PDF that I attached and look into this thread to get the plays!!!
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alittlemoresound
SBR Sharp
12-14-08
472
#174
NICE to meet you JOHN. my name is WILL
im a capper trying to make a living. My job might get yanked very soon, so i have to make good profits to support my rent and habbits. Im off to a good start.. turned $70 into $500. Feeling good about the whole thing.
I got CK... the mvp and you John morr the Mathematics Guru. Wilforth and a few other heads.
LETS kill the books in the next few weeks.. i want to be up a few thousand before febuary
So the next play is on the 16th ?
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Dana4U
SBR Sharp
10-28-08
375
#175
Sounds Good
I guess I will read this thread and see what everyone thinks about the number of points to buy for each game. I have no problem with buying points ... but don't understand why sometimes two points and other times three points. So I'm looking forward to future discussions.
Originally posted by JohnMorr08
I love it! It's great to have eveyone aboard. Just please do not deviate from the system. As for buying different points - I am afterall a Capper at heart so I try to justify the points I buy. So If I cap the game and don't think I need the points or need less, or I figure I shouldn't bet the series at all... then I follow my capping skills and intuition.
With everyone aboard we'll surely get some conversation about each series as well.
Be careful. Point being - the very first series this year should have been Sacramento (look it up)... I did NOT play that series because they were Atrocious... they had 0 wins at that time. I passed on the series. And it LOST. So read the PDF that I attached and look into this thread to get the plays!!!