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knugenSBR MVP
- 12-09-09
- 2612
#2871Comment -
Nino7SBR Wise Guy
- 07-11-09
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#2872Cha +7Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#2873- there u go, Charlotte line updated.
21.01.2013
S3
(B Bet) Char: Charlotte +2 1,10u | Charlotte +7 2,31u
(A Bet) Ind fade: Memphis -6 1,10u
S4
(A Bet) Chic fade: Lakers - waiting on line movement
(A Bet) Mem fade: Indiana +6 1,10u
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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586
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baldurSBR Sharp
- 02-07-11
- 261
#2874date is wrong my friend.Comment -
samrock67SBR Wise Guy
- 05-05-12
- 647
#2875Just pointing out that the Indiana and Memphis fades go against each other, so before you place your bets, decide whether you want to skip both and place 2.2u on whichever series loses. I placed one of the bets before realizing this.Comment -
Aram325302SBR Rookie
- 02-18-10
- 43
#2876I'm no expert here but i would place the bet with both teams then risk 2.2u on the losing team on the b bet.Originally posted by samrock67Just pointing out that the Indiana and Memphis fades go against each other, so before you place your bets, decide whether you want to skip both and place 2.2u on whichever series loses. I placed one of the bets before realizing this.Comment -
DollarBill10SBR Sharp
- 05-06-11
- 449
#2877Why would you bet both teams...you lose $$$ that way...that's silly.Originally posted by Aram325302I'm no expert here but i would place the bet with both teams then risk 2.2u on the losing team on the b bet.Comment -
UK_gixxerSBR Hustler
- 11-14-11
- 89
#2878Guys....with regards to betting both sides...ugh just nevermind. I give up.Comment -
Aram325302SBR Rookie
- 02-18-10
- 43
#2879The goal is to win the series not the bet. When you lose with one team that series continues. Your goal should be to win 1 unit in both the series.Originally posted by DollarBill10Why would you bet both teams...you lose $$$ that way...that's silly.Comment -
pazimSBR Sharp
- 02-09-10
- 316
#2880You lose juice that way. I would just bet b but with the same amt. as bet a.Originally posted by Aram325302The goal is to win the series not the bet. When you lose with one team that series continues. Your goal should be to win 1 unit in both the series.Comment -
AssetSBR Sharp
- 11-07-09
- 326
#2881LMFAO!!!!!!!!Originally posted by UK_gixxerGuys....with regards to betting both sides...ugh just nevermind. I give up.
My reaction was exactly like you, BUT I didn't post LOLComment -
Grinder12000SBR MVP
- 04-21-11
- 1809
#2882Aram325302 - sorry - there are 20 pages to this conversation. It comes up once a week it seems. There are many ways to handle the situation and do as you feel comfortable.
Don't play either and bet 2.2 on the loser.
Don't play either and play 1.1 on the loser on a new 4 team chase.
Play both, lose juice and play the loser for 2.2
whatever - as long as you understand the concept do what feels right for you.Comment -
gamewinninglvSBR High Roller
- 09-18-12
- 207
#2883Originally posted by Grinder12000Aram325302 - sorry - there are 20 pages to this conversation. It comes up once a week it seems. There are many ways to handle the situation and do as you feel comfortable.
Don't play either and bet 2.2 on the loser.
Don't play either and play 1.1 on the loser on a new 4 team chase.
Play both, lose juice and play the loser for 2.2
whatever - as long as you understand the concept do what feels right for you.
Great short and sweet answer.
Mathematically, the first option (Don't play either and bet 2.2 on the loser) maximizes your winning/profit because you don't lose Juice (see previous posts for detailed discussion about this answer). But in reality, it's your $$$ and do what you think it's best for you.
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parlay100SBR High Roller
- 09-23-09
- 117
#2884I hear ya!Originally posted by UK_gixxerGuys....with regards to betting both sides...ugh just nevermind. I give up.Comment -
brewersMKESBR High Roller
- 10-09-12
- 105
#2885Lakers it is..Stifler is on the lakers tooComment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#2886- Lakers line added.
21.01.2013
S3
(B Bet) Char: Charlotte +2 1,10u | Charlotte +7 2,31u
(A Bet) Ind fade: Memphis -6 1,10u
S4
(A Bet) Chic fade: Lakers +2 1,10u
(A Bet) Mem fade: Indiana +6 1,10u
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SkivChefSBR Wise Guy
- 10-19-09
- 730
#2887Where can i find current records?Comment -
Grinder12000SBR MVP
- 04-21-11
- 1809
#2888Where can i find current records?
Please go to page 46 and read post # 1586 for a quick unders . . . . . . there are some there. Not up to date but from the last 6 years - things are pretty much working out as they backtested,Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#2889Originally posted by samrock67Just pointing out that the Indiana and Memphis fades go against each other, so before you place your bets, decide whether you want to skip both and place 2.2u on whichever series loses. I placed one of the bets before realizing this.Expert here. Betting both sides is almost as foolish as the description of why you wouldn't just play the losing B bet. Have you actually tried doing the math on your little equation there? Probably not, or you would see that samrock's way is the right way. And as far as samrock, why would you bet 2.2 units on the B bet when only 2.0 is needed? There would be no A bet juice to make up for, which is half the point of that bet strategy. The goal is to profit 1 unit for each series, not 1.1. I wouldn't make the bets any higher than they need to be, because if it happens to lose, you lost your "skip A bet discount".Originally posted by Aram325302
I'm no expert here but i would place the bet with both teams then risk 2.2u on the losing team on the b bet.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#2890I'm getting there myself. If people want to WASTE their money, why should I let it bother me. To not understand it at first is one thing, but to make arguements as to why betting both sides is better, is ignorant and show's that person's novice in sports betting.Originally posted by AssetLMFAO!!!!!!!!
My reaction was exactly like you, BUT I didn't post LOLComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#2891Best Buy and itunes have a bunch. What band are you searching for?Originally posted by SkivChefWhere can i find current records?Comment -
samrock67SBR Wise Guy
- 05-05-12
- 647
#2892Bear with me here- if your unit size was $10 and you skipped both bets, wouldn't your B bet be $22 to win $20? That's where I got my 2.2 from- I wasn't saying your "To Win" size should be 2.2u, I meant you'd be betting 2.2 units in order to win 2 units. Sorry for the confusion.Originally posted by Wallco99Expert here. Betting both sides is almost as foolish as the description of why you wouldn't just play the losing B bet. Have you actually tried doing the math on your little equation there? Probably not, or you would see that samrock's way is the right way. And as far as samrock, why would you bet 2.2 units on the B bet when only 2.0 is needed? There would be no A bet juice to make up for, which is half the point of that bet strategy. The goal is to profit 1 unit for each series, not 1.1. I wouldn't make the bets any higher than they need to be, because if it happens to lose, you lost your "skip A bet discount".Comment -
Aram325302SBR Rookie
- 02-18-10
- 43
#2893Originally posted by Wallco99Expert here. Betting both sides is almost as foolish as the description of why you wouldn't just play the losing B bet. Have you actually tried doing the math on your little equation there? Probably not, or you would see that samrock's way is the right way. And as far as samrock, why would you bet 2.2 units on the B bet when only 2.0 is needed? There would be no A bet juice to make up for, which is half the point of that bet strategy. The goal is to profit 1 unit for each series, not 1.1. I wouldn't make the bets any higher than they need to be, because if it happens to lose, you lost your "skip A bet discount".
Thanking you for this
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#2894Gotcha. That would be correct.Originally posted by samrock67Bear with me here- if your unit size was $10 and you skipped both bets, wouldn't your B bet be $22 to win $20? That's where I got my 2.2 from- I wasn't saying your "To Win" size should be 2.2u, I meant you'd be betting 2.2 units in order to win 2 units. Sorry for the confusion.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#2895No problem, glad I could help.Originally posted by Aram325302Thanking you for this
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tbird509SBR Wise Guy
- 11-05-09
- 761
#2896why not just pick who you like more for example...ind vs mem-7, you just use your judgement on who you think will cover,you pick ind tonight and win,and the loser(mem)as b bet next,that way u wouldnt miss out and can hit both,and if you lose,then you follow system as you normally wouldComment -
gamewinninglvSBR High Roller
- 09-18-12
- 207
#2897Originally posted by Wallco99Best Buy and itunes have a bunch. What band are you searching for?
LOL
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gamewinninglvSBR High Roller
- 09-18-12
- 207
#2898Originally posted by tbird509why not just pick who you like more for example...ind vs mem-7, you just use your judgement on who you think will cover,you pick ind tonight and win,and the loser(mem)as b bet next,that way u wouldnt miss out and can hit both,and if you lose,then you follow system as you normally would
If you only pick one and lose, then you missed out on the 1 unit win from the other bet ..... i think ...... isn't that right ?
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tbird509SBR Wise Guy
- 11-05-09
- 761
#2899only if you pass you lose out in my opinion,cause your still going to win the series even if you pick the wrong choice of the two A bets,because the loser turns into a B bet either way ......................................Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#2900Oh baby that is sooooooooooooooooo right. Unless his everyday handicapping skills are so polished that he picks winners 100% of the time, in that case, and only that case, he would be correct. His bookie must hate him.Originally posted by gamewinninglvIf you only pick one and lose, then you missed out on the 1 unit win from the other bet ..... i think ...... isn't that right ?
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7261
#2901Your way you win 1 unit sometimes and two units sometimes for the two teams. Our way you win two units ALL the time. That makes your way ineffective. Obviously if a series loses then units are not won by either method.Originally posted by tbird509only if you pass you lose out in my opinion,cause your still going to win the series even if you pick the wrong choice of the two A bets,because the loser turns into a B bet either way ......................................Comment -
Nino7SBR Wise Guy
- 07-11-09
- 798
#2902We are at + 25 units or something at half season...this is slower than backtested.Originally posted by Grinder12000
Please go to page 46 and read post # 1586 for a quick unders . . . . . . there are some there. Not up to date but from the last 6 years - things are pretty much working out as they backtested,Comment -
tbird509SBR Wise Guy
- 11-05-09
- 761
#2903if you win the a bet,you could still wager 2 units for your b bet...for a chance of 3..so i wouldnt call it ineffective at all,just more aggresiveOriginally posted by Wallco99Your way you win 1 unit sometimes and two units sometimes for the two teams. Our way you win two units ALL the time. That makes your way ineffective. Obviously if a series loses then units are not won by either method.Comment -
Grinder12000SBR MVP
- 04-21-11
- 1809
#2904I got us at 54.1 units.We are at + 25 units or something
On the 19th Stifler had us at 45 units I was a couple above Stifler with 47 I think after the "D" game)- We have had a good run since the "D" loss - up about 6 units.Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#2905Pretty sure your number is wrong. Stiflers unit count would not match a backtest. What I have falls more in line with what Nino stated. Take out the extra unit from both the 2 unit A bets and including the extra loss on Orlando (this would show up on a Covers backtest) and theres no way we could be up more than 30ish units. I had almost 30 before tonight. Underperforming based on the backtests, but a few systems are underperforming this year.Originally posted by Grinder12000I got us at 54.1 units.
On the 19th Stifler had us at 45 units I was a couple above Stifler with 47 I think after the "D" game)- We have had a good run since the "D" loss - up about 6 units.Comment
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