Its not negative to me. He is just joking around cause plays are being jynxed.
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
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#2311Comment -
UK_gixxerSBR Hustler
- 11-14-11
- 89
#2312agreed, I edited.Originally posted by J.M. DiscipleIts not negative to me. He is just joking around cause plays are being jynxed.Comment -
overcomeSBR Hustler
- 12-19-12
- 83
#2313agreed. not going to play the heat game. was tempted to fade heat with half a unit, but why take a chance against the system and possibly lose half a unit?Originally posted by AssetAnd the Miami game is gonna lose LOL
In my opinion the Toronto game looks better than the Miami game, but that's just me LOL.Comment -
knugenSBR MVP
- 12-09-09
- 2612
#2314Looked so good for raptors after 3q, but hello C betComment -
AssetSBR Sharp
- 11-07-09
- 326
#2315Yup that's gambling, looks good once then all the sudden a turn. Well BOL to all of you on the upcoming "C bet"Originally posted by knugenLooked so good for raptors after 3q, but hello C bet
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#2316Asset your not playing the system? I ask cause you say good luck to all of "you" instead of "us."Comment -
AssetSBR Sharp
- 11-07-09
- 326
#2317I am, but after that last "D bet" lost I'm not playing any "S1" system. The rest is good to go for meOriginally posted by J.M. DiscipleAsset your not playing the system? I ask cause you say good luck to all of "you" instead of "us."
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UK_gixxerSBR Hustler
- 11-14-11
- 89
#2319I was wondering the same thing about you playing the system...I still have faith in S1, but I evaluate things more cautiously. For instance today I faded Toronto and made OKC -7 my B bet and hit to close the series out and get out of a potiential D situation.Originally posted by AssetI am, but after that last "D bet" lost I'm not playing any "S1" system. The rest is good to go for me
Now mind you, this is not the way to do things...I've been burnt doing this before.Comment -
lapi7SBR High Roller
- 06-08-10
- 230
#2320Started playing this system just a few weeks ago.Originally posted by AssetI am, but after that last "D bet" lost I'm not playing any "S1" system. The rest is good to go for me
Almost immediately I lost a D bet.
I'm about to bet another D bet.
I'm on several C bets as well.
Did this kind of jazz happen before I jumped in on board?
Were there more A and b game winners since I started?
Just curious cause it seems to happen to me an EXTRAORDINARY number of times.
Any others out there who seem to catch the train just before it tends to hit a really bad streak or is it just me?
I think that they should have a Powerball winner who collects on the most numbers NOT hit. But then again if they did that I'd start hitting just enough numbers to lose and not enough to win anything.
Thanks in advance...
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AssetSBR Sharp
- 11-07-09
- 326
#2321Well the record that Stif had posted are correct, but instead of HIS record of 2 loss. Some of us has 3 loss in total now because of bad lines. In the past I had noticed that out of all the systems plays, "S1" had been reaching a lot of "C & D bets". So you could say from experiencing all of Stif's systems plays, I've had decided NOT to play any of his "S1". Lately I have a lot of confidence on the rest of the systems plays especially the "S3 & S4". That's why I had mentioned that when it's an "S3 or S4" play, I play more $$ then my usual.
Btw I've been playing Stif's system plays since the beginning. Well maybe after 5-7 games because I found this thread late. Well I hope I didn't jinx myself about the "S3 & S4" LOLComment -
AssetSBR Sharp
- 11-07-09
- 326
#2322Stif's system ROCKS don't get me wrong. Everything that he had posted ARE CORRECT. As I had mentioned b4, when he post his plays daily or whatever it's the lines that he had gotten. If it happened that we didn't get the same line then...decisions, decisions, decisions. The good thing is that this system is BASED on the CLOSING line @ "Covers.com" Plus this is his first year trial run for the NBA with this system so...Originally posted by lapi7Started playing this system just a few weeks ago.
Almost immediately I lost a D bet.
I'm about to bet another D bet.
I'm on several C bets as well.
Did this kind of jazz happen before I jumped in on board?
Were there more A and b game winners since I started?
Just curious cause it seems to happen to me an EXTRAORDINARY number of times.
Any others out there who seem to catch the train just before it seems to colide or is it just me?
Thanks in advance...
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I'm confident with Stif's systems we ALL will come out on top, but I don't know by how much.Comment -
lapi7SBR High Roller
- 06-08-10
- 230
#2323I got ya on that Asset...but none of the series that areheaded to C and D games had lines in question for me. They were all preaty clear cut lines that were readily available (except for one day).Originally posted by AssetStif's system ROCKS don't get me wrong. Everything that he had posted ARE CORRECT. As I had mentioned b4, when he post his plays daily or whatever it's the lines that he had gotten. If it happened that we didn't get the same line then...decisions, decisions, decisions. The good thing is that this system is BASED on the CLOSING line @ "Covers.com" Plus this is his first year trial run for the NBA with this system so...
I'm confident with Stif's systems we ALL will come out on top, but I don't know by how much.
And, if I undersatnd you correctly, even you have stopped playing the S1 seires because of the increasing number of C and D games.
I think I'm going to follow your lead and stick with the S2, S3 and S4 only.
Thanks for the input.
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RiceboiSBR Wise Guy
- 10-03-11
- 857
#2324You guys are forgetting that this is his first year playing the system, there could be a lot more system losses than previous years or maybe there will be a lot of C and D bets but no more system losses for the season. Just remember nothing is guaranteed. If you don't feel comfortable with a play or starting a chase on a certain team, then don't play it, no one is clicking the submit button for you.
Good Luck to everyone in this thread the rest of the NBA season.Comment -
hockeylax312SBR Hustler
- 12-26-10
- 53
#2325This seems like a very solid system, I am for sure going to keep my eye on it!Comment -
tr4shSBR Sharp
- 09-06-12
- 311
#2326Just a fyi to guys skipping certain systems, goto post #133. There's really no reason to be skipping a certain system based on past results. Overreacting to short-term usually leads to more losses imo. Certain years, the S1 made up for like 33-40% of the yearly wins.Comment -
thelegend67SBR Rookie
- 09-05-11
- 46
#2327how correct. if a d bet makes you nervous, you should not be betting systems at all.Originally posted by tr4shJust a fyi to guys skipping certain systems, goto post #133. There's really no reason to be skipping a certain system based on past results. Overreacting to short-term usually leads to more losses imo. Certain years, the S1 made up for like 33-40% of the yearly wins.Comment -
UK_gixxerSBR Hustler
- 11-14-11
- 89
#2328completely agree, S1 most likely sees the most C and D bets because S1 sees the most games, period.Originally posted by tr4shJust a fyi to guys skipping certain systems, goto post #133. There's really no reason to be skipping a certain system based on past results. Overreacting to short-term usually leads to more losses imo. Certain years, the S1 made up for like 33-40% of the yearly wins.
Problem is, peopl are coming in and starting the system like today, and they don't have the 40+ units that the system is already up, so when they get hit with an 18 unit loss, they freak out.Comment -
MalekuSBR Wise Guy
- 01-18-11
- 610
#2329Which is why bookies will never sway system bettors away. Most gamblers in general lack the disclipline to "see things though".Originally posted by UK_gixxercompletely agree, S1 most likely sees the most C and D bets because S1 sees the most games, period.
Problem is, peopl are coming in and starting the system like today, and they don't have the 40+ units that the system is already up, so when they get hit with an 18 unit loss, they freak out.
Most hit the panic button once variance shows it's ugly head and run for the hills.
No matter what type of wagering you do... you must stay the course.
I would say maybe 15% of people on these forums are capable of riding out the smallest of storms.
It is sad to see such a lack of discipline... but that is how Vegas got built I guess.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7270
#2330I totally agree. Books love the system players for the most part.Originally posted by MalekuWhich is why bookies will never sway system bettors away. Most gamblers in general lack the disclipline to "see things though".
Most hit the panic button once variance shows it's ugly head and run for the hills.
No matter what type of wagering you do... you must stay the course.
I would say maybe 15% of people on these forums are capable of riding out the smallest of storms.
It is sad to see such a lack of discipline... but that is how Vegas got built I guess.Comment -
RiceboiSBR Wise Guy
- 10-03-11
- 857
#2331it's because a lot of system players lack discipline like Maleku said and factor in human error as well , rather than because "system's don't work". Systems can work if you do the research and stick to them, but people will still deny systems work (straight bet only type guys and maybe even bookies).Originally posted by Wallco99I totally agree. Books love the system players for the most part.Comment -
easysaidSBR Wise Guy
- 05-18-12
- 690
#2332Im definitely not fading S1 but certain teams for the S1 system, i.e toronto/milwaukee.. teams like spurs, grizz, okc are teams to do the s1 with.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7270
#2333Exactly on point. That is why when certain people say that they are afraid their bookie will find out they are playing a system and will drop them, one of two things are true. They either have an amateuer bookie, or they really don't understand that their bookie will welcome them.Originally posted by Riceboiit's because a lot of system players lack discipline like Maleku said and factor in human error as well , rather than because "system's don't work". Systems can work if you do the research and stick to them, but people will still deny systems work (straight bet only type guys and maybe even bookies).Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#2334records:Originally posted by Stifler06.01.2013
S1
(B Bet) Tor: Toronto -6,5 1,10u | Toronto +7 2,31u
S4
(A Bet) Wash fade: Miami -14 1,10u
S1: W 34 | L 2 (-2,90 units)
S2: W 16 | L 0 (+16,00 units)
S3: W 10 | L 0 (+10,00 units)
S4: W 26 | L 0 (+27,00 units)
pending:
- S2 Orl, B Bet on 07.01.2013
- S1 Mil, D Bet on 08.01.2013
- S1 Tor, C Bet on 09.01.2013
- S2 Bos fade, B Bet on 07.01.2013
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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586
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Grinder12000SBR MVP
- 04-21-11
- 1809
#2335Heck - Stifler has MADE me into an action junkie!!. I used to bet too many games a day since I am an action junky.
Books just love ALL players - except this year in the NFL where Las Vegas actually had to tap their emergency reserves because they took a serious bath.Books love the system players for the most part.Comment -
thes0vereignSBR Wise Guy
- 02-13-12
- 712
#2336Apparently, that's not as true as we've been led to believe.Originally posted by Grinder12000Heck - Stifler has MADE me into an action junkie!!
Books just love ALL players - except this year in the NFL where Las Vegas actually had to tap their emergency reserves because they took a serious bath.
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Grinder12000SBR MVP
- 04-21-11
- 1809
#2337Thanks - when CBS had a piece on the subject I thought it was interesting but weird. CBS said the reason was that the top 4 teams the public wagers on all won 60% of the time (spread wise).
Guess they needed to fill up some time with faux news.Comment -
StiflerSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 3511
#233807.01.2013
S2
(B Bet) Orl: Orlando -1 1,10u | Orlando +6,5 2,31u
(B Bet) Bos fade: Atlanta -4,5 1,10u | NY Knicks -6 2,31u
S4
(A Bet) Dal fade: Utah -5 1,10u
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tr4shSBR Sharp
- 09-06-12
- 311
#2339Books dont gamble, they make their money on juice. That's the main thing a lot of people don't understand. They don't really care if some specific people win at a high rate, as long as they get even money on both sides of the bet. At least this is how all books should approach it and if they don't, they will not be as successful as they could be.Originally posted by Wallco99Exactly on point. That is why when certain people say that they are afraid their bookie will find out they are playing a system and will drop them, one of two things are true. They either have an amateuer bookie, or they really don't understand that their bookie will welcome them.Comment -
UK_gixxerSBR Hustler
- 11-14-11
- 89
#2340G/L everyone; let's get this money to night to take some stress off a looming D bet tomorrow!Comment -
gamewinninglvSBR High Roller
- 09-18-12
- 207
#2341Originally posted by AssetStif's system ROCKS don't get me wrong. Everything that he had posted ARE CORRECT. As I had mentioned b4, when he post his plays daily or whatever it's the lines that he had gotten. If it happened that we didn't get the same line then...decisions, decisions, decisions. The good thing is that this system is BASED on the CLOSING line @ "Covers.com" Plus this is his first year trial run for the NBA with this system so...
I'm confident with Stif's systems we ALL will come out on top, but I don't know by how much.
Less poop in your pants if no S1 plays, Mr. Asset ?
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0tuks0SBR Rookie
- 03-04-11
- 10
#2342Hi Stifler, do you have any detailed statistics per system; number of won/lost A/B/C/D bets of every system (i.e. A 20-12; B 7-5; C 5-0; D 0-0) and would you be kind enough to share it please? thxComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-01-11
- 7270
#2343Hey, where is your normal disclaimer at the bottom of your post?Originally posted by gamewinninglvLess poop in your pants if no S1 plays, Mr. Asset ?
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UK_gixxerSBR Hustler
- 11-14-11
- 89
#2344its around here somewhere, if you need it right away i'd just start skimming the threadOriginally posted by 0tuks0Hi Stifler, do you have any detailed statistics per system; number of won/lost A/B/C/D bets of every system (i.e. A 20-12; B 7-5; C 5-0; D 0-0) and would you be kind enough to share it please? thxComment -
UK_gixxerSBR Hustler
- 11-14-11
- 89
#2345kind of off topic for tonight, but the opening line on the Bucks @ home vs Suns D bet tomorrow is out @ Bucks -5.5...just curious what everyone thinks of this line, will it go up or down by tomorrow? I know it's best to wait for Stif to post the line, but I personally would like to get the best possible line for this game.Comment
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