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  • k310
    SBR High Roller
    • 10-11-11
    • 111

    #2101
    Originally posted by Stifler

    pending:
    - S1 Ind, B Bet on 29.12.2012
    - S4 Atl fade, B Bet on 29.12.2012
    - S2 Orl, B Bet on 07.01.2013


    ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ____________

    all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586
    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Tor an S4 A Bet today because of the OT game yesterday?
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    • Nino7
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-11-09
      • 798

      #2102
      Originally posted by k310
      Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Tor an S4 A Bet today because of the OT game yesterday?
      It is but he didnt post the picks yet (only pending series)
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      • Grinder12000
        SBR MVP
        • 04-21-11
        • 1809

        #2103
        Isn't that S1B ind the game that went OTB. Because of the storm? Or is this a different one?

        Plus. If the S4 Atl Fade was canceled out with the S2A Cle Fade. Do we treat that as a A game or a B game.

        I say it's a brand new 4 game chase. And a strong one
        Last edited by Grinder12000; 12-29-12, 11:01 AM.
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        • Kababayan
          SBR High Roller
          • 07-19-10
          • 193

          #2104
          Originally posted by Huego
          honestly, half the fun of betting is sharing the roller coaster with fellow gamblers online. When I lose with the system, the pain is somehow less knowing we are losing together...if I win, there's more joy because we are doing it together. Life is too short, let's enjoy each other's company.
          I was never a big fan of the clutter in here...but I totally agree with this.
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          • Stifler
            SBR MVP
            • 11-11-09
            • 3511

            #2105
            - i personally bought the hook on the Indiana play (+3,5)

            29.12.2012


            S1

            (B Bet) Ind: Indiana -8 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u

            S2

            (A Bet) Orl fade: Toronto +4 1,10u

            S4

            (B Bet) Atl fade: Cleveland +5,5 1,10u | Indiana +3 2,31u
            (A Bet) Tor fade: Orlando -4 1,10u


            ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ____________

            all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586
            Last edited by Stifler; 12-29-12, 12:31 PM.
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            • Wallco99
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-11
              • 7261

              #2106
              Originally posted by overcome
              how do you know whether the system decides to fade a team or not?

              *edit: yes i read page 23.
              David Stern usually calls Stifler each night around 3:00 AM to break down the following days bets, and let him know which ones will be fades. We just wait for him to post. This way, we all don't have to call David individually. Sometimes he's a little late calling if he's busy handing out fines in West Coast games, but Stifler stays on his ass until the call is made. He was also kind enough to write a synopsis in post #1586. This has helped the few who just don't have the time to wait for Mr. Stern to call.
              Last edited by Wallco99; 12-29-12, 02:28 PM.
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              • lapi7
                SBR High Roller
                • 06-08-10
                • 230

                #2107
                Originally posted by Stifler
                - finally could get that +8.5 @ pinnacle

                28.12.2012


                S1

                (D Bet) Det fade: Wash +6 1,10u | Wash +1,5 2,31u | Atlanta -7,5 4,85u | Miami -7,5 10,19u
                (C Bet) SA fade: Dallas +11 1,10u | Toronto +13 2,31u | Houston +8,5 4,85u
                (new A Bet) NYK fade: Sacramento +3 1,10u
                (A Bet) Det: Detroit +6,5 1,13u
                (A Bet) Ind: Indiana -8 1,10u

                S2

                (A Bet) Orl: Orlando -1 1,10u
                (A Bet) Cle fade: Atlanta -5 1,10u

                S4

                (A Bet) Atl fade: Cleveland +5,5 1,10u
                (A Bet) Dal fade: Denver -2 1,10u


                ________________________________________ ______________________________________

                all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586

                Here are yesterdays selections.
                Should there not be an S2 Orlando B bet today also (which I don't see posted)?
                I could be all screwed up here so if I'm off base please let me know...thanks.


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                • Asset
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-07-09
                  • 326

                  #2108
                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                  David Stern usually calls Stifler each night around 3:00 AM to break down the following days bets, and let him know which ones will be fades. We just wait for him to post. This way, we all don't have to call David individually. Sometimes he calls a little late calling if he's busy handing out fines in West Coast games, but Stifler stays on his ass until the call is made. He was also kind enough to write a synopsis in post #1586. This has helped the few who just don't have the time to wait for Mr. Stern to call.
                  You f*cking crack me up. I <3 your comments LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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                  • Asset
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 11-07-09
                    • 326

                    #2109
                    Originally posted by lapi7
                    Here are yesterdays selections.
                    Should there not be an S2 Orlando B bet today also (which I don't see posted)?
                    I could be all screwed up here so if I'm off base please let me know...thanks.


                    .
                    Look carefully at today's plays
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                    • Nino7
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-11-09
                      • 798

                      #2110
                      Originally posted by lapi7
                      Here are yesterdays selections.
                      Should there not be an S2 Orlando B bet today also (which I don't see posted)?
                      I could be all screwed up here so if I'm off base please let me know...thanks.


                      .
                      S2 deals with home OR road series.Yesterday was a the beggining of a road serie.Tonight orlando plays @home.thats why.
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                      • Asset
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 11-07-09
                        • 326

                        #2111
                        Originally posted by Nino7
                        S2 deals with home OR road series.Yesterday was a the beggining of a road serie.Tonight orlando plays @home.thats why.
                        Why you gotta spoil him with the answer for? We all have to learn how to be like Wallco....an A$$ LMAO.

                        @Wallco: no harm bud
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                        • lapi7
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 06-08-10
                          • 230

                          #2112
                          Originally posted by Nino7
                          S2 deals with home OR road series.Yesterday was a the beggining of a road serie.Tonight orlando plays @home.thats why.
                          Thanks Nino...I think I'm as rightly stupid as I feel...thanks for the explaination in kind words !!!

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                          • lapi7
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 06-08-10
                            • 230

                            #2113
                            Originally posted by Asset
                            Why you gotta spoil him with the answer for? We all have to learn how to be like Wallco....an A$$ LMAO.

                            @Wallco: no harm bud
                            Because he's a human being.
                            And at least I admit when I've acted in a really stupid manner about my own inadequacies.
                            I remember quite well Asset, towards the beginning of this thread where YOU asked a lot of questions that were quite painfully obvious to many others.
                            Perhaps you should attempt treating other human beings that way YOU would like to be treated pal !!!
                            I dislike bullies and people with "gang-up with the in people" mentalities.
                            Hopefully you're not a cop !!!

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                            Last edited by lapi7; 12-29-12, 01:26 PM.
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                            • Asset
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 11-07-09
                              • 326

                              #2114
                              Originally posted by lapi7
                              Because he's a human being.
                              I remember quite well Asset, towards the beginning of this thread where YOU asked a lot of questions that were quite painfully obvious to many others.
                              Perhaps you should attempt treating other human beings that way YOU would like to be treated pal !!!
                              Hopefully you're not a cop !!!

                              .
                              Yes you're correct about me asking a lot of questions at the beginning of this thread. My comment(s) was not attended to offend you, but if it did I'm sorry No harm?
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                              • lapi7
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 06-08-10
                                • 230

                                #2115
                                Originally posted by Asset
                                Yes you're correct about me asking a lot of questions at the beginning of this thread. My comment(s) was not attended to offend you, but if it did I'm sorry No harm?
                                No harm at all Asset...it takes a REAL man to say "I'm sorry".
                                And that you are my friend.
                                We are ALL friends here. God bless !!!



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                                Last edited by lapi7; 12-29-12, 01:32 PM.
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                                • njb5572
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 01-29-12
                                  • 126

                                  #2116
                                  aww, this is all just great!
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                                  • Wallco99
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-01-11
                                    • 7261

                                    #2117
                                    Originally posted by njb5572
                                    aww, this is all just great!
                                    I see you say "aww" and "all". Are you trying to start another do, due, duex, dew debate? Land Of Lincoln.
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                                    • lapi7
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 06-08-10
                                      • 230

                                      #2118
                                      Originally posted by njb5572
                                      aww, this is all just great!
                                      LOL...didn't mean to start a revival meeting or anything.

                                      I'm here for this great NBA system.

                                      I just see so much negativity of people towards others these days that a little bit of humanity (in between game posts and questions) lifts up my spirits.

                                      Anyway...sermon over. Thank God !!!

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                                      • Wallco99
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-01-11
                                        • 7261

                                        #2119
                                        Cheers to everyone....

                                        This actually is a fun thread.
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                                        • njb5572
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 01-29-12
                                          • 126

                                          #2120
                                          I agree^

                                          So I hate to bring this up but when I woke up this morning with a hangover I began to think about this system and all of you, because that's what I do when I wake up with a hangover.. and thought about the following scenario..

                                          Today we have two A-bets going head to head, now the smart thing to do would be to not bet on either game and play on once one team wins.. But let's say Orlando won and Toronto lost. We are supposed to continue with the S2 Orlando FADE, but what if this series loses? Wouldn't we have 1u less than if we had played both games?

                                          Am I still drunk?
                                          Last edited by njb5572; 12-29-12, 02:44 PM.
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                                          • Wallco99
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-01-11
                                            • 7261

                                            #2121
                                            Originally posted by njb5572
                                            I agree^

                                            So I hate to bring this up but when I woke up this morning with a hangover I began to think about this system and all of you, because that's what I do when I wake up with a hangover.. and thought about the following scenario..

                                            Today we have two A-bets going head to head, now the smart thing to do would be to not bet on either game and play on once one team wins.. But let's say Orlando won and Toronto lost. We are supposed to continue with the S2 Orlando FADE, but what if this series loses? Wouldn't we have 1u less than if we had played both games?

                                            Am I still drunk?
                                            No, because the amount of the losing series would be 1+ units less than a normal loss, so that missing unit you are speaking of is made up there.

                                            Playing one losing series @ 1+ units less for the loss = playing both series with one series winning and one @ normal loss price. The math will ALWAYS work when skipping bets, and usually a portion of a unit in your favor. Run both scenarios out on paper and you will see that the skipping bets method nets you less overall loss than the other way. And if skipping bets and both win, you will still win the 2 units.
                                            Last edited by Wallco99; 12-29-12, 03:06 PM.
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                                            • Asset
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-07-09
                                              • 326

                                              #2122
                                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                                              Cheers to everyone....

                                              This actually is a fun thread.
                                              I totally agree with ya bro On a side note, because of this thread, losing makes me feel much better than losing alone. That might not sound right but o well. Not trying to bring every1 down with me. I'm just thinking positive and trying to stay happy LOL. Maybe that's why I like/wait for ppl to post their comments, especially Wallco LOL. I guess when I'm happy it makes a loss day a better day...idk maybe it's just me

                                              @lapi7: we alwayz friends bud Sometimes I tend to open my mouth b4 using my brain, and for that you deserve my apologize If it happens again please don't take it too personal. Like you'd said, we ALL friends here in this great thread.

                                              Btw BOL to every1 today
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #2123
                                                Actually, I will spell it out:

                                                Playing both series, not skipping bets (Teams A & B)
                                                A wins series and B loses series:
                                                A - win 100
                                                B - lose (-1845)
                                                Tot (-1745)

                                                Both Win Series:
                                                A - win 100
                                                B - win 100
                                                Tot +200

                                                Playing both series, Skipping (A) bet (Teams A & B)
                                                A wins series and B loses series:
                                                A - win 0
                                                B - lose (-1653)
                                                Tot (-1653) **This is actually .92 units more productive.**

                                                Both Win Series:
                                                A - win 0
                                                B - win 200
                                                Tot +200 **This is the same.**

                                                When I skip bets, I play the next bet in line for the normal bet amount for that bet minus the juice, I don't get greedy. If I skip an (A) bet, on my (B) bet I will try to win 200, not 210, since 200 was the original goal anyway for the 2 series (2 units), and since there was never any juice on the (A) bet that needs to be made up anyway, why would I throw an extra $10 on the (B) bet for no reason. You won't make the extra $10 if you win, but you see how much lower the loss is if you lose. The results will be the same for skipping any bet in the series, the only difference is the skipping bet lose scenario loss will be a little higher the deeper in the series the bet gets skipped, but it will always cost less than the non skipping loss amount.

                                                ** And as Asset says, I am the guy who never helps!!!!!**

                                                Last edited by Wallco99; 12-29-12, 03:42 PM.
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                                                • njb5572
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 01-29-12
                                                  • 126

                                                  #2124
                                                  Another satisfied student of Wallco University.. Makes perfect sense now, appreciate the help!
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                                                  • Nino7
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 07-11-09
                                                    • 798

                                                    #2125
                                                    Guys i need help.I can find this page http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/consensus/ from google typing "sbr"+"consensus" but I can't find it again from inside sbr.

                                                    any idea?
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                                                    • Asset
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 11-07-09
                                                      • 326

                                                      #2126
                                                      Originally posted by Nino7
                                                      Guys i need help.I can find this page http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/consensus/ from google typing "sbr"+"consensus" but I can't find it again from inside sbr.

                                                      any idea?
                                                      Try to look all the way on the top of this webpage. It's under "LIVE ODDS". I hope this helps Unless that's not the page your looking for...
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                                                      • Nino7
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 07-11-09
                                                        • 798

                                                        #2127
                                                        Originally posted by Asset
                                                        Try to look all the way on the top of this webpage. It's under "LIVE ODDS". I hope this helps Unless that's not the page your looking for...
                                                        I wouldn't have posted before trying this thx though
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                                                        • hotelis
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-31-12
                                                          • 1995

                                                          #2128
                                                          i will never understand what is stifflo doing here in this thread
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                                                          • Nino7
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-11-09
                                                            • 798

                                                            #2129
                                                            okay i found but its only avaible for the NFL
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                                                            • Grinder12000
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-21-11
                                                              • 1809

                                                              #2130
                                                              Stifflo is Stifflers evil twin brother. He is here because he knows that the more people we alienate the better chance "we" have of succeeding.
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                                                              • Wallco99
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-01-11
                                                                • 7261

                                                                #2131
                                                                Originally posted by Grinder12000
                                                                Stifflo is Stifflers evil twin brother. He is here because he knows that the more people we alienate the better chance "we" have of succeeding.
                                                                There's an evil twin now??? This thread really is getting confusing.
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                                                                • Mousey
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 11-29-10
                                                                  • 88

                                                                  #2132
                                                                  so how is everyone playing tonight? what's the ... consensus ... for this thread?

                                                                  orlando? since s4 has the higher percentage?
                                                                  indiana? how many units?
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                                                                  • njb5572
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-29-12
                                                                    • 126

                                                                    #2133
                                                                    Originally posted by Mousey
                                                                    so how is everyone playing tonight? what's the ... consensus ... for this thread?

                                                                    orlando? since s4 has the higher percentage?
                                                                    indiana? how many units?
                                                                    I'm flipping a coin.. That's what we do in here, right?
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                                                                    • Wallco99
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                                      • 7261

                                                                      #2134
                                                                      Originally posted by Mousey
                                                                      so how is everyone playing tonight? what's the ... consensus ... for this thread?

                                                                      orlando? since s4 has the higher percentage?
                                                                      indiana? how many units?
                                                                      Read post #2123. I really can't make it any clearer.
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                                                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 11-16-10
                                                                        • 5154

                                                                        #2135
                                                                        Originally posted by Stifler
                                                                        overall winning percentages:

                                                                        record: 1308-23

                                                                        A Bet: 731-600 (54,92%)
                                                                        B Bet: 344-256 (57,33%)
                                                                        C Bet: 166-90 (64,84%)
                                                                        D Bet: 67-23 (74,44%)

                                                                        could post those stats for every season / every system aswell, but hopefully this is enough.
                                                                        Was looking at the overall record for this system and different betting strategies. As wallco came up with a 1-3-5 strategy detailed below; applying the same logic to b-c-d bets while skipping all A bets i believe its more profitable.

                                                                        B) 1.1 to win 1.0
                                                                        C) 4.51 to win 4.1
                                                                        D) 11.67 to win 10.67

                                                                        Multiplying these numbers you get 1,338.03 units of profit.

                                                                        Take the 23 units X 17.28 total series loss from total wins.

                                                                        344 + 680.60 + 710.87 - 397.44

                                                                        Total: 1338.03.

                                                                        Did this on my phone so please double check my math.

                                                                        --Jmd
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