Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

yeah..won by 7+ and looked like she wasn't asked for much to do it ..didn't even realize going in that it was a filly ..other cool thing is it's out of a liam's map mare and wesley ward is the sole owner ..has to say something about the sire that he would buy one for himself



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they mentioned on tvg she might be a candidate for royal ascot..army mule above avg turf and liam's map of course is sire of deterministic..remember last year when clement was interviewed about deterministic (think prior to his 3yo debut)he said he had another by liam's map who won a turf sprint stakes (or allowance ..not 100% sure) ..doesn't seem unrealistic he might give that a shot

[batt33]

yeah..won by 7+ and looked like she wasn't asked for much to do it ..didn't even realize going in that it was a filly ..other cool thing is it's out of a liam's map mare and wesley ward is the sole owner ..has to say something about the sire that The he would buy one for himself



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Yes for sure! I agree people are starting to take notice more and more with the Army Mules,

[batt33]

I always immediately go visually to the legs , feet and body when I see all these horses. Just a habit. Nothing seemed different but a view is just a start. His demeanor was fine and he seemed calm and comfortable. Those white smudges we’re probably uptight, a poultice that is pre mixed but that can be routine for the soundest of horses.
I will watch the rerun but from what you guys said, it sounded like it made sense too me.

I would have signed a contract to have all mine look that good post race .

[JBEX]

Wow Pinky finger was impressive! Lily didn't run to bad either!

yeah..won by 7+ and looked like she wasn't asked for much to do it ..didn't even realize going in that it was a filly ..other cool thing is it's out of a liam's map mare and wesley ward is the sole owner ..has to say something about the sire that he would buy one for himself



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[str]

Thanks STR! I would have believed DanBlacker would have said something in the video the next morning. Well I know one thing he will have some time off!

I always immediately go visually to the legs , feet and body when I see all these horses. Just a habit. Nothing seemed different but a view is just a start. His demeanor was fine and he seemed calm and comfortable. Those white smudges we’re probably uptight, a poultice that is pre mixed but that can be routine for the soundest of horses.
I will watch the rerun but from what you guys said, it sounded like it made sense too me.

I would have signed a contract to have all mine look that good post race .

[batt33]

He looks fine Batt. That is the most important thing.
Glad he ate up and seems good to go. Legs look good from afar. Still haven't seen the race but will find it asap.

Thanks STR! I would have believed DanBlacker would have said something in the video the next morning. Well I know one thing he will have some time off!

[batt33]

by army mule .. monday

keeneland

R1 (two horses)

#1 lily's army (15-1)
#8 pinky finger (7-5)

the 2yo races are beginning ..2 first time starters going 4.5f

Wow Pinky finger was impressive! Lily didn't run to bad either!

[str]

Yes agreed
Yes and off a layoff cant wait!
Thanks JBEX! there was reports the he was off... But as you saw in the video the trainer didn't mention it.

Look forward to the 2 year old races!

He looked comfortable grazing. Hard to see any subtle joint filling on a video like that . It is usually very subtle and you need to feel those legs every day or every other day at the least to have a firm grasp on the heat, filling, etc. I saw some white marks on a couple of legs in various spots that could have been remnants of poultice applied but that's probably standard procedure post race.
If he WAS off, he looked comfortable there. Doubt anything would be serious but it doesn't take much as Batt can attest to.

[str]

yes saw the same thing.... legs looked good... wondering if it could be a breathing issue....

Good eye Batt. That would be my first guess.

[str]

didn't look good with war mule..guess he was eased in the stretch and noticed when he crossed the wire his head was up and went side to side

The rider immediately became concerned actually just before the 1/4 pole ( red and white at top of the stretch). He either heard something or felt something and by then the horse was quite concerned and therefore a bit confused as well. He was never really in hand down the backside so the horse knew something was not perfect because he seemed to be focusing on whatever it was and not the race or the riders instructions. Being an Army Mule, he ran through it but it was evident that the horse was not himself even before the turn from the 1/2 mile pole ( red pole before the far turn) through the 3/8ths pole( green and white into the turn.)

Don't know if the not switching leads was a soreness problem or a breathing, bleeding internally problem that preoccupied the horses focus away from switching leads. Finally switched late in the stretch most likely when the horse was out of contention and being eased up and the horse kind of let down and let normalcy creep ,back in. Hope that makes sense.

Also, hope the horse is OK.

[str]

Just wasn't his day..... Yes Blacker has!

Straight No Chaser Post Race Update



Straight No Chaser bounced out of the G1 Golden Shaheen in good order this morning. Trainer Dan Blacker passed along the video above of him, reporting he jogged up sound and is good spirits. Straight No Chaser is currently scheduled to leave Dubai on Wednesday and we will follow up with any additional information.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...3917405044.mp4

He looks fine Batt. That is the most important thing.
Glad he ate up and seems good to go. Legs look good from afar. Still haven't seen the race but will find it asap.

[str]

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it's really amazing how often these army mules have legit excuses when they run subpar..it's great to know this stuff for follow up plays and to further confirm he is producing solid runners overall even when it's not obvious to the untrained eye ..great job str


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on a separate note thought you might find this race interesting


carter stakes at aqu (army mules finale) ..don't really have an opinion but deep solid field

couple of interesting notes
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ed allard shipping from laurel with a horse that's only run there in 5 career starts (won 4 of them)

linda rice has an "8yo" she claimed 4 starts back who ran a career high figure last start




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Yes JBEX. I am not making this stuff up. And if I see one that is not trying or looking for a reason to disengage, I will point that out. So far all I have seen is hard trying, determined horses running hard. Only exception are a few that have not had the lightbulb go off yet.
In some cases, it could be the horse but for the most part, I would be looking at the trainer.

They damn near all do the same thing. Try like crazy.

[batt33]

we'll see what str thinks .. hopefully he's ok

think ovetta's hobby got a lot out of that race and is primed for a big effort 2nd off the layoff

sorry about SNC batt..sure after a few months away to recoup he'll have a nice year back at home

by army mule .. monday

keeneland

R1 (two horses)

#1 lily's army (15-1)
#8 pinky finger (7-5)

the 2yo races are beginning ..2 first time starters going 4.5f

Yes agreed
Yes and off a layoff cant wait!
Thanks JBEX! there was reports the he was off... But as you saw in the video the trainer didn't mention it.

Look forward to the 2 year old races!

[JBEX]

by army mule .. monday

keeneland

R1 (two horses)

#1 lily's army (15-1)
#8 pinky finger (7-5)

the 2yo races are beginning ..2 first time starters going 4.5f

[JBEX]

sorry about SNC batt..sure after a few months away to recoup he'll have a nice year back at home

[JBEX]

yes saw the same thing.... legs looked good... wondering if it could be a breathing issue....

we'll see what str thinks .. hopefully he's ok

think ovetta's hobby got a lot out of that race and is primed for a big effort 2nd off the layoff

[batt33]

didn't look good with war mule..guess he was eased in the stretch and noticed when he crossed the wire his head was up and went side to side

yes saw the same thing.... legs looked good... wondering if it could be a breathing issue....

[JBEX]

didn't look good with war mule..guess he was eased in the stretch and noticed when he crossed the wire his head was up and went side to side

[JBEX]

(AM SA6)OH cold on the board ..6-1 w/3 mtp

[batt33]

I have not seen this race but I don't care for the " antsy" part. I was hopeful that he had matured somewhat away from that especially after his last 2 races. But in his defense, it does not take much , especially at a different venue, to get any horse wound up pre race.

Sorry that occurred Batt. Seems it might take an event like this to beat him between the pre race nerves and the bad break.

He will be back. I think your trainer has done a super job with him and most likely will off this race as well.

Just wasn't his day..... Yes Blacker has!

Straight No Chaser Post Race Update



Straight No Chaser bounced out of the G1 Golden Shaheen in good order this morning. Trainer Dan Blacker passed along the video above of him, reporting he jogged up sound and is good spirits. Straight No Chaser is currently scheduled to leave Dubai on Wednesday and we will follow up with any additional information.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...3917405044.mp4