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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23422

    #5951
    delaware

    R7 #4 avocado (12-1) should be a lot lower
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    • mrginandtonic
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-11-09
      • 7734

      #5952
      Originally posted by JBEX
      I don't play (not able to financially).. even if I did it would only be small.. I just enjoy capping and the forum gives me a place to share my opinion.. if I did it would be mostly simple win and place.. think the pick 5 is an excellent bet but I enjoy picking my spots more and don't want to get to involved with races I don't like just because they're in the sequence.. should pass on more races than I do(posting) ...without getting too long winded as I've discussed in here before I think playing longshot underneath in supers and tris a good strategy.. that's where they're going to wind up most of the time if they run well.. cover with the top 2-5 horses in 1st an 2nd depending how you feel about the race.. I feel they pay more than they should over the long haul.. use steve crist's formula for calculating the fair payoffs based on odds
      JBEX, although it is none of my business, I really don't understand why you don't play for real. I know that you mentioned you are not able to financially, but you can build up your bank roll with small bets. I am not a high roller, but I still enjoy placing a bet here and there where I see fit. You have so many angles that you like and that you feel you have an advantage over other players. So, why not use it to make some money?? I know you are not worse than me. If I can make a few dollars playing the ponies, I definitely think you can too. Why spend all these time figuring out what angles work and what doesn't?? The Horse Tourney site is excellent for building your bankroll. $12 buy in to win potentially $1000. EZ showed me this and I think it is excellent. With your knowledge in the game, I have no doubt you can have an immediate impact and win some prices. I am not asking to prove yourself, but as a fellow handicapper, I think it is such a waste and not to take advantage of your expertise. At the end of the day, the greatest reward is horse handicapping is still the monetary gain. Just think about it, HT may be worthwhile and even $2 WP bet can build up your roll, then you can move forward from there. That is my two cents. GL.
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23422

        #5953
        Originally posted by mrginandtonic
        JBEX, although it is none of my business, I really don't understand why you don't play for real. I know that you mentioned you are not able to financially, but you can build up your bank roll with small bets. I am not a high roller, but I still enjoy placing a bet here and there where I see fit. You have so many angles that you like and that you feel you have an advantage over other players. So, why not use it to make some money?? I know you are not worse than me. If I can make a few dollars playing the ponies, I definitely think you can too. Why spend all these time figuring out what angles work and what doesn't?? The Horse Tourney site is excellent for building your bankroll. $12 buy in to win potentially $1000. EZ showed me this and I think it is excellent. With your knowledge in the game, I have no doubt you can have an immediate impact and win some prices. I am not asking to prove yourself, but as a fellow handicapper, I think it is such a waste and not to take advantage of your expertise. At the end of the day, the greatest reward is horse handicapping is still the monetary gain. Just think about it, HT may be worthwhile and even $2 WP bet can build up your roll, then you can move forward from there. That is my two cents. GL.
        first of all thanks for the compliment mrgnt..really don't know where I fall in the pecking order of how good but have put a lot of time into it going back over 40 years..I like the tournament concept mainly because of the low vig and from what I gather low entry fees..my only knock is having to play designated races whether it be a whole card or just parts of others..like to pick my spots although on some days I do play too many..I believe this reality applies though..if you're a really good tourney player maybe you have a 10% edge over time..so if I play at the $10 level and play the whole card which includes races I don't like on average i'll make a dollar a day for my efforts..and that's if I am good, maybe i'm not..and I could only play two a week tops..just doesn't make sense to me..as far as making small bets a similar reality applies..you can only do so much with small volume..not discouraging others just how I feel..I was a compulsive gambler for many decades ..horses,sports..never lliked casinos..I've been in control for close to 15 years now and not even tempted to get out of hand..with either of the above my main joy was the process rather than the money..no information (pp's ,newsletters) no betting..I never bet just for entertainment ..I enjoy just freestyling on here and giving my opinion ..maybe no one follows or lots follow or somewhere in between..whatever the case it's kept me more interested in the game than I would be without it..as I said the joy is in the process for me..don't miss the betting..bol with your bank and tourneys


        play and pick interchangeable..always mean pick
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        • JBEX
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 23422

          #5954
          mountaineer


          R9 #1 beautiful gI gi (10-1)
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          • Easy-Rider 66
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-12
            • 36100

            #5955
            Originally posted by JBEX
            first of all thanks for the compliment mrgnt..really don't know where I fall in the pecking order of how good but have put a lot of time into it going back over 40 years..I like the tournament concept mainly because of the low vig and from what I gather low entry fees..my only knock is having to play designated races whether it be a whole card or just parts of others..like to pick my spots although on some days I do play too many..I believe this reality applies though..if you're a really good tourney player maybe you have a 10% edge over time..so if I play at the $10 level and play the whole card which includes races I don't like on average i'll make a dollar a day for my efforts..and that's if I am good, maybe i'm not..and I could only play two a week tops..just doesn't make sense to me..as far as making small bets a similar reality applies..you can only do so much with small volume..not discouraging others just how I feel..I was a compulsive gambler for many decades ..horses,sports..never lliked casinos..I've been in control for close to 15 years now and not even tempted to get out of hand..with either of the above my main joy was the process rather than the money..no information (pp's ,newsletters) no betting..I never bet just for entertainment ..I enjoy just freestyling on here and giving my opinion ..maybe no one follows or lots follow or somewhere in between..whatever the case it's kept me more interested in the game than I would be without it..as I said the joy is in the process for me..don't miss the betting..bol with your bank and tourneys


            play and pick interchangeable..always mean pick
            Sounds like JBEX you are all in or all out as for as gambling goes. Your call for what works best for you. I understand you have lost your fair share when playing this great game. Now you just post. No worries. I have also a losing playing, and that is why I value the SBR point system. Keeps some skin in the game without getting hurt coin wise. I also play Horse Tourneys which is legal in my state, and can play for as little as $3 for an eight race contest. Again some skin in the game. But sounds like you have waved the white flag in trying to beat the basically for most unbeatable game. GL moving forward.
            Last edited by Easy-Rider 66; 08-26-19, 08:00 PM.
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            • JBEX
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 23422

              #5956
              Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
              Sounds like JBEX you are all in or all out as for as gambling goes. Your call for what works best for you. I understand you have lost your fair share when playing this great game. Now you just post. No worries. I have also a losing playing, and that is why I value the SBR point system. Keeps some skin in the game without getting hurt coin wise. I also play Horse Tourneys which is legal in my state, and can play for as little as $3 for an eight race contest. Again some skin in the game. But sounds like you have waved the white flag in trying to beat the basically for most unbeatable game. GL moving forward.

              just enjoy picking.. playing for small stakes does not excite me.. the mathematics bear that out imo
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              • Easy-Rider 66
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-14-12
                • 36100

                #5957
                Originally posted by JBEX
                just enjoy picking.. playing for small stakes does not excite me.. the mathematics bear that out imo
                Yeah each to his own. For me I enjoy the small stakes and then take a shot in a bigger contest if I can score in a small game. Build upon something one rung of the ladder at a time. Sounds like you were a heavy hitter back in your day. I was too at times with sports. But learned a hard lesson. You have this thread of over 250,000 views and that is your skin. No worries. Some posters have stated they appreciate the work you do and that is good. But for me I can not take it too seriously if you do not have some stake other than just making picks. But that is just my little opinion. Again each to his own. BOL.
                Last edited by Easy-Rider 66; 08-26-19, 08:23 PM.
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23422

                  #5958
                  Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                  Yeah each to his own. For me I enjoy the small stakes and then take a shot in a bigger contest if I can score in a small game. Build upon something one rung of the ladder at a time. Sounds like you were a heavy hitter back in your day. I was too at times with sports. But learned a hard lesson. You have this thread of over 250,000 views and that is your skin. No worries. Some posters have stated they appreciate the work you do and that is good. But for me I can not take it too seriously if you do not have some stake other than just making picks. But that is just my little opinion. Again each to his own. BOL.
                  you're entitled to your opinion as is everybody else in here..just gonna keep doing what I've been doing..bol
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                  • Easy-Rider 66
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-14-12
                    • 36100

                    #5959
                    Originally posted by JBEX
                    you're entitled to your opinion as is everybody else in here..just gonna keep doing what I've been doing..bol
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                    • JBEX
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-02-12
                      • 23422

                      #5960
                      at prarie meadows a fox ran about 5 feet onto the track from the outer rail on the clubhouse turn..as the field approached him he retreated rapidly lol
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                      • mrginandtonic
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-11-09
                        • 7734

                        #5961
                        Originally posted by JBEX
                        first of all thanks for the compliment mrgnt..really don't know where I fall in the pecking order of how good but have put a lot of time into it going back over 40 years..I like the tournament concept mainly because of the low vig and from what I gather low entry fees..my only knock is having to play designated races whether it be a whole card or just parts of others..like to pick my spots although on some days I do play too many..I believe this reality applies though..if you're a really good tourney player maybe you have a 10% edge over time..so if I play at the $10 level and play the whole card which includes races I don't like on average i'll make a dollar a day for my efforts..and that's if I am good, maybe i'm not..and I could only play two a week tops..just doesn't make sense to me..as far as making small bets a similar reality applies..you can only do so much with small volume..not discouraging others just how I feel..I was a compulsive gambler for many decades ..horses,sports..never lliked casinos..I've been in control for close to 15 years now and not even tempted to get out of hand..with either of the above my main joy was the process rather than the money..no information (pp's ,newsletters) no betting..I never bet just for entertainment ..I enjoy just freestyling on here and giving my opinion ..maybe no one follows or lots follow or somewhere in between..whatever the case it's kept me more interested in the game than I would be without it..as I said the joy is in the process for me..don't miss the betting..bol with your bank and tourneys


                        play and pick interchangeable..always mean pick
                        Fair enough. But still, if I were to put in all these effort in handicapping and I feel I have advantage; I would play to get some of my losses back. Since the tuition fees have been paid over the year, now it's time for the rewards. GL
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                        • JBEX
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 23422

                          #5962
                          Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                          Fair enough. But still, if I were to put in all these effort in handicapping and I feel I have advantage; I would play to get some of my losses back. Since the tuition fees have been paid over the year, now it's time for the rewards. GL

                          thanks
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                          • JBEX
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 23422

                            #5963
                            saratoga


                            R4 #4 indian pride (2-1)

                            chad brown debuter (wish it were someone else just to get a better price)..speed,win early pedigree and out of an extremely productive dam..besides today have a hunch this is going to be a good one down the road


                            R6 #3 moonachie (4-1)

                            fts ...expensive for pedigree


                            R7 #5 jazzique (5-1)

                            fts..homebred with classy european bloodlines top and bottom ..chad brown..field is deep in talent
                            Last edited by JBEX; 08-28-19, 12:54 PM.
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                            • JBEX
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 23422

                              #5964
                              month >=8 and team =Yankees and LGS and SGS =3 and streak >=2 and line <=-200 and season >=2009

                              nyy
                              august +
                              last game
                              3 game series
                              streak >=2 (wins)
                              favorite >=200
                              2009



                              10-0 o/u (3.75)
                              9-1 (-1.5) (-138) (4.80) it's 6.30 avg straight up margin

                              nyy 9.6 /opp 3.3

                              very few unearned runs for nyy..besides the one 3 run game (nyy) the 9 others averaged 10.3/rpg with the lowest being 7


                              nyy team total over 5 (-120)
                              nyy -1.5 (-130)
                              Last edited by JBEX; 08-28-19, 12:50 PM.
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                              • Louisvillekid1
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-17-07
                                • 52143

                                #5965
                                Didn’t know you capped sports

                                Good luck today
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 23422

                                  #5966
                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                  Didn’t know you capped sports

                                  Good luck today

                                  thanks.. just using the sdql.. personnel know very little
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23422

                                    #5967
                                    added 6 7
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                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-17-07
                                      • 52143

                                      #5968
                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                      month >=8 and team =Yankees and LGS and SGS =3 and streak >=2 and line <=-200 and season >=2009

                                      nyy
                                      august +
                                      last game
                                      3 game series
                                      streak >=2 (wins)
                                      favorite >=200
                                      2009



                                      10-0 o/u (3.75)
                                      9-1 (-1.5) (-138) (4.80) it's 6.30 avg straight up margin

                                      nyy 9.6 /opp 3.3

                                      very few unearned runs for nyy..besides the one 3 run game (nyy) the 9 others averaged 10.3/rpg with the lowest being 7


                                      nyy team total over 5 (-120)
                                      nyy -1.5 (-130)
                                      Came through with the TT In 5

                                      Looking to sweep
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                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-17-07
                                        • 52143

                                        #5969
                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                        saratoga


                                        R4 #4 indian pride (2-1)

                                        chad brown debuter (wish it were someone else just to get a better price)..speed,win early pedigree and out of an extremely productive dam..besides today have a hunch this is going to be a good one down the road


                                        R6 #3 moonachie (4-1)

                                        fts ...expensive for pedigree


                                        R7 #5 jazzique (5-1)

                                        fts..homebred with classy european bloodlines top and bottom ..chad brown..field is deep in talent
                                        You picked 3 huge ones

                                        Excellent
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #5970
                                          That 7th race was nuts
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23422

                                            #5971
                                            thanks..yeah everything was on target today inclung the baseball..they were all impressive maiden wins with the last one of a different running style..didn't realize moonachie was parcells (makes sense)and know he races under august dawn farm..he's named a couple of his horses after players(carthon,bavaro)and they seem to wind up being halfway decent runners..have to keep an eye out for that in the future
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                                            • JBEX
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 23422

                                              #5972
                                              month >=8 and DAY and starter =Zack Greinke and season >=2013 and line <=-120 and total >=7

                                              greinke
                                              aug +
                                              day games
                                              favorite >=120
                                              total >=7
                                              2013

                                              5-0
                                              2-1
                                              1-0
                                              7-2
                                              10-8
                                              2-1
                                              1-0
                                              4-3
                                              4-3
                                              5-2
                                              6-2 (this year)
                                              4-1



                                              tb team total under 3.5
                                              Last edited by JBEX; 08-29-19, 10:13 AM.
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23422

                                                #5973
                                                baseball play above



                                                saratoga

                                                R1 #5 irish danzing (4-1)

                                                nyb maiden specials (2yo)

                                                todd's got a $340k yearling purchase firster #4 more glitter (2-1) so be no value with him especially vs ny breds.. mine expensive for the pedigree, jose ortiz rides and solid works


                                                R2 #4 ides of arch (15-1)

                                                R3 #6 tayler's the boss (6-1)

                                                blinkers on seems to have helped in her last 3 starts.. exits much tougher ny bred claimer to try 20k n2L.. bad trainer and jockey will only help the price.. jockeys avg win price in sprint races is a shade over $40 and that's from a good sample of 10 wins


                                                R4 #6 lundqvist (8-1)



                                                R5 #2 bronxville (5-1)


                                                R6 #9 pink freud (5-1)


                                                R7 #8 saratoga beauty (9-2)



                                                R10 #6 freudycatfever (12-1)
                                                Last edited by JBEX; 08-29-19, 11:29 AM.
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                                                • JBEX
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 23422

                                                  #5974
                                                  put up the total
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                                                  • JBEX
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 23422

                                                    #5975
                                                    added 6 7
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                                                    • JBEX
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 23422

                                                      #5976
                                                      finished
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                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                        • 52143

                                                        #5977
                                                        Your red hot

                                                        I think they want that 4 on turf
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                                                        • JBEX
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23422

                                                          #5978
                                                          should just stick to newbies lol
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #5979
                                                            Originally I was on your pick here in the 3rd, this one is tough to figure ... ended up singling him tho. Hoping refinds that early form 2nd off break... then I’m deep in the 4th looking for a price.
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                                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-17-07
                                                              • 52143

                                                              #5980
                                                              Actually hoping Luis wins 3 in a row
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23422

                                                                #5981
                                                                my big knock on the favorite is he wasn't a nothing horse last year to make this kind of drop.. I know pletcher good on the drop but think the 6 is a good price largely because of the jt combo
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                                                                • JBEX
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 23422

                                                                  #5982
                                                                  didn't even realize miranda had another horse.. wins at 36-1..unbelievable
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                                                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-17-07
                                                                    • 52143

                                                                    #5983
                                                                    Yep terrible not having that one

                                                                    Tried to steal a single instead of taking advantage of what the field really was

                                                                    2 prob wins if doesn’t leap outta the gate
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                                                                    • JBEX
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23422

                                                                      #5984
                                                                      I missed that.. I'm pretty conservative with saying "I would have" but this one really a good longie.. they probably shared a van ride up here
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                                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                                        • 52143

                                                                        #5985
                                                                        I hear ya , I’m pretty mad at myself

                                                                        Live n learn I suppose

                                                                        Pretty much used the 6 to setup to setup the 3
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