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  • JBEX
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 23421

    #5986
    could be
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    • Louisvillekid1
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-17-07
      • 52143

      #5987
      2300 to the 1 and 33k to the 5 should be live too

      Dammit
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      • JBEX
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 23421

        #5988
        saratoga


        R3 #9 big browning (12-1)

        interesting jose ortiz picks up mount for horse that did little vs specials in 2 tries.. new trainer, drops and tries the grass which she is bred to like


        R4 #6 tiz he the one (9-2)

        overmatched, bad post and wrong distance last out.. gets into this race on a little tweak of the conditions made just for him.. laurel races last year make him tough here and has run big off the layoff twice before (including debu win in that)



        R5 #5 cartabianca (10-1)

        a european who gets into a starter allowance race because of a claiming race she ran in france.. never seen anything like that before.. on races great fit for this field.. favorable running style and post position.. ortiz rides and think she'll definitely be lower..


        just to be clear her last 3 races were in north america but prior 7+ in france.. above argument still the same for this one




        R6 #4 free wheeler (4-1)


        first time starter.. @ $430k very expensive relative (not just expensive) sprint, turf top and bottom.. todd and irad

        R7 #4 snaffle (12-1)

        first time starter speed, win early pedigree
        jose/mcpeek 4 for 6 together
        trainer having good meet



        R8

        #4 noble jewel (8-1)

        nice pedigree and could see improvement 2nd time routing (4th career start).. rosario back aboard


        #10 barrel of destiny (10-1)

        fascinated irad would hop aboard for hertler who is 1/139 with turf horses ( one hundred and thirty nine)


        50% more divided by 2



        R11 #4 awesome alana (8-1)

        showed some life as a 2yo and could see taking to 2 turns on the turf.. at least the top 3 finishers out of her last race came back to repeat.. chance to get a little bit of a price with the brown /castellano combo
        Last edited by JBEX; 08-30-19, 03:12 PM.
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        • Louisvillekid1
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-17-07
          • 52143

          #5989
          Originally posted by JBEX
          saratoga


          R3 #9 big browning (12-1)

          interesting jose ortiz picks up mount for horse that did little vs specials in 2 tries.. new trainer, drops and tries the grass which she is bred to like


          R4 #6 tiz he the one (9-2)

          overmatched, bad post and wrong distance last out.. gets into this race on a little tweak of the conditions made just for him.. laurel races last year make him tough here and has run big off the layoff twice before (including debu win in that)



          R5 #5 cartabianca (10-1)

          a european who gets into a starter allowance race because of a claiming race she ran in france.. never seen anything like that before.. on races great fit for this field.. favorable running style and post position.. ortiz rides and think she'll definitely be lower..
          Such mixed feelings here, I think the #1 Dream Passage runs huge today, but the speed on the 2 horse to her right could cuz major problems in a duel setting up for horses like the #4 and #5.

          The 3rd is wide open, I went deep

          in the 4th the 6 is my second choice, I just love the form on the rail. lots coming off the bench with questions

          Can't argue with any, BOL today.



          SIDE NOTE: just saw Cheek pieces on your choice in the 5th
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          • Louisvillekid1
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-17-07
            • 52143

            #5990
            Pretty epic us talking about Personal Ensign less than 24 hours before the passing, btw...
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            • Louisvillekid1
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-17-07
              • 52143

              #5991
              Something about the fillies, I enjoy more than the boys...
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              • JBEX
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 23421

                #5992
                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                Such mixed feelings here, I think the #1 Dream Passage runs huge today, but the speed on the 2 horse to her right could cuz major problems in a duel setting up for horses like the #4 and #5.

                The 3rd is wide open, I went deep

                in the 4th the 6 is my second choice, I just love the form on the rail. lots coming off the bench with questions

                Can't argue with any, BOL today.



                SIDE NOTE: just saw Cheek pieces on your choice in the 5th

                dream passage will be tough and her pace figures are huge.. don't think the 2 will be able to stay with her and if she does it will be on a much gentler pace as this is a significant drop.. then she will have plenty left in the tank.. problem for me of course is she'll be odds on.. if I were playing horizontal couldn't argue making her a single.. as far as mine it's just very unique circumstances and want to be aboard


                what's cheek pieces.. never consider subtle equipment stuff like that?
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                • JBEX
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 23421

                  #5993
                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                  Pretty epic us talking about Personal Ensign less than 24 hours before the passing, btw...

                  yes that's really amazing
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                  • JBEX
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 23421

                    #5994
                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                    Something about the fillies, I enjoy more than the boys...

                    I never had any preferences.. always cap them the same
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                    • Louisvillekid1
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-17-07
                      • 52143

                      #5995
                      Originally posted by JBEX
                      dream passage will be tough and her pace figures are huge.. don't think the 2 will be able to stay with her and if she does it will be on a much gentler pace as this is a significant drop.. then she will have plenty left in the tank.. problem for me of course is she'll be odds on.. if I were playing horizontal couldn't argue making her a single.. as far as mine it's just very unique circumstances and want to be aboard


                      what's cheek pieces.. never consider subtle equipment stuff like that?
                      Just equipment attached to the nose band , keep focused , nose down
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                      • Louisvillekid1
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-17-07
                        • 52143

                        #5996
                        Originally posted by JBEX
                        I never had any preferences.. always cap them the same
                        I’m saying from a fan perspective
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                        • JayTris07
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-10-14
                          • 3010

                          #5997
                          GL JBEX,
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                          • JBEX
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 23421

                            #5998
                            Originally posted by JayTris07
                            GL JBEX,

                            thanks jay tris
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                            • JBEX
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 23421

                              #5999
                              added 6 7
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                              • JBEX
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 23421

                                #6000
                                finished saratoga.. gonna look at kentucky downs later tonight or tomorrow
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                                • JBEX
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 23421

                                  #6001
                                  kentucky downs

                                  R1 #3 appealing way (8-1)
                                  R2 #6 better tapit (10-1)
                                  R3 #10 kitten's cat (9-2)
                                  R4 #9 hitch (15-1) lower


                                  R5 #2 call to victory (8-1)
                                  R5 #6 spinning top (30-1) half unit


                                  R6 #1 wexx (10-1)
                                  R6 #8 lady elsa (10-1) half unit


                                  R7 #1 cascaneuces (15-1)
                                  R8 #2 next shares (7-2)


                                  R9 #9 battleofwinterfell (15-1)
                                  R10 #4 night time (6-1)



                                  saratoga

                                  R1 #4 structor (2-1)

                                  chad monster.. $15k fee.. dam a winner (not stakes).. first foal to race ..$850k!!

                                  R2 #7 brockmoninoff (6-1)

                                  bad start last out in first race off long layoff.. weaver fantastic 2nd off.. sensible drop from sb n1x to clm 2l..(do consider the former much tougher).. exclude the yielding surface 2 back he always gives it a go



                                  R5 #4 risk profile (7-2)

                                  another brown firster who cost a bunch relative and they paid this large amount for him as a weaning.. like that trippi is the dam sire as that's all speed.. have a hunch also when klaravich names a horse with an investment theme they mean business.. belive it or not no pun intended lol


                                  R7 #1 necker island (12-1)

                                  stacked maiden race and sure they'll be some good ones coming out of here.. typical on woodward undercard.. this one fits my go to angle the best but he'll have his work cut out for him


                                  R8 #6 tapaloof (12-1)

                                  finally a first time starter with a monster ped that's not chad or todd..bit of an exaggeration but helps the price



                                  R8 #4 no word (9-2)
                                  R9 #1 hallawallah (4-1)


                                  R10 #5 mrs sippy (4-1)
                                  R11 #7 yoshida (5-2)
                                  R12 #1 somes sound (12-1)
                                  Last edited by JBEX; 08-31-19, 04:25 PM.
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                                  • JBEX
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 23421

                                    #6002
                                    saratoga through 5
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                                    • JBEX
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 23421

                                      #6003
                                      through 8 saratoga
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                                      • mrginandtonic
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-11-09
                                        • 7734

                                        #6004
                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                        kentucky downs

                                        R1 #3 appealing way (8-1)
                                        R2 #6 better tapit (10-1)
                                        R3 #10 kitten's cat (9-2)
                                        R4 #9 hitch (15-1) lower


                                        R5 #2 call to victory (8-1)
                                        R5 #6 spinning top (30-1) half unit


                                        R6 #1 wexx (10-1)
                                        R6 #8 lady elsa (10-1) half unit




                                        saratoga

                                        R1 #4 structor (2-1)

                                        chad monster.. $15k fee.. dam a winner (not stakes).. first foal to race ..$850k!!

                                        R2 #7 brockmoninoff (6-1)

                                        bad start last out in first race off long layoff.. weaver fantastic 2nd off.. sensible drop from sb n1x to clm 2l..(do consider the former much tougher).. exclude the yielding surface 2 back he always gives it a go



                                        R5 #4 risk profile (7-2)

                                        another brown firster who cost a bunch relative and they paid this large amount for him as a weaning.. like that trippi is the dam sire as that's all speed.. have a hunch also when klaravich names a horse with an investment theme they mean business.. belive it or not no pun intended lol


                                        R7 #1 necker island (12-1)

                                        stacked maiden race and sure they'll be some good ones coming out of here.. typical on woodward undercard.. this one fits my go to angle the best but he'll have his work cut out for him


                                        R8 #6 tapaloof (12-1)

                                        finally a first time starter with a monster ped that's not chad or todd..bit of an exaggeration but helps the price
                                        Sorry to bring the bad news; but #6 Tapaloof is scratched
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                                        • JBEX
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23421

                                          #6005
                                          Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                          Sorry to bring the bad news; but #6 Tapaloof is scratched
                                          ok have to look again..thanks mrgnt
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                                          • JBEX
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23421

                                            #6006
                                            added both tracks
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                                            • JBEX
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 23421

                                              #6007
                                              finished saratoga
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                                              • JBEX
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23421

                                                #6008
                                                finished kd
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                                                • JBEX
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 23421

                                                  #6009
                                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                  Pretty epic us1 talking about Personal Ensign less than 24 hours before the passing, btw...


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                                                  • JBEX
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 23421

                                                    #6010
                                                    saratoga

                                                    R1 #6 chimney rock (4-1)
                                                    R3 #1 three outlaws (4-1)


                                                    R5 #10 bobbyfromthepalm (4-1)
                                                    R7 #4 andiama (15-1)
                                                    R8 #1 day dayenu (7-2)
                                                    Last edited by JBEX; 09-01-19, 01:06 PM.
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                                                    • JBEX
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 23421

                                                      #6011
                                                      through 8
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                                                      • JBEX
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23421

                                                        #6012
                                                        going to take a break from this thread post kentucky downs and for the next few days.. going to do a thread on my theme of "maidens who cost a lot for their pedigree specs" .. first or 2nd starts but if first start is a really good effort will pass as it's too obvious.. these horses could cost as little as $30k (most likely spotted in maiden claimers) or the sky's the limit.. cover all tracks but mostly the better ones.. a large majority of these will be gray area decisions but that's handicapping.. will not tally but final odds and results will be posted.. no explanations will be given
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                                                        • JBEX
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 23421

                                                          #6013
                                                          Originally posted by JBEX
                                                          going to take a break from this thread post kentucky downs and for the next few days.. going to do a thread on my theme of "maidens who cost a lot for their pedigree specs" .. first or 2nd starts but if first start is a really good effort will pass as it's too obvious.. these horses could cost as little as $30k (most likely spotted in maiden claimers) or the sky's the limit.. cover all tracks but mostly the better ones.. a large majority of these will be gray area decisions but that's handicapping.. will not tally but final odds and results will be posted.. no explanations will be given

                                                          will be posted well in advance.. no looking at odds
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #6014
                                                            Will be following
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                                                            • JBEX
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23421

                                                              #6015
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                              Will be following

                                                              ok lkid.. hopefully nail some good ones.. may begin today not sure
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                                                              • JBEX
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23421

                                                                #6016
                                                                will be looking at thursday's kentucky downs card tomorrow..weather looks good through the weekend
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                                                                • JBEX
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                                  • 23421

                                                                  #6017
                                                                  kentucky downs.. thursday

                                                                  R1 #1 big beautiful wall (3-1)
                                                                  R2 #11 alien season (5-1)
                                                                  R3 #4 the drake (12-1)

                                                                  kind of surprised ml.. 2yo with classy bloodlines..racing and working right along and the works are at fair hill which tends to get them fit.. jose ortiz

                                                                  R4 #10 comic kitten (9-2)
                                                                  R5 #6 mr matuschek (5-1)

                                                                  just missed the cut for the other thread



                                                                  R6 #2 arabella bella (7-2)
                                                                  Last edited by JBEX; 09-04-19, 09:33 AM.
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                                                                  • JBEX
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 23421

                                                                    #6018
                                                                    p:R9 >=4 and op:R9 >=4 and H and total >=8.5 and o:STR and STR

                                                                    both teams scored >= 4 runs in the 9th previous game
                                                                    both starters righties..
                                                                    total >=8.5

                                                                    8-0 o/u (5.12) big

                                                                    about 8 unearned in sample but runs wouldn't have affected any of the overs (5 in one game)

                                                                    nym/was over 10 (1pm)


                                                                    kentucky downs tomorrow above
                                                                    Last edited by JBEX; 09-04-19, 10:08 AM.
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                                                                    • JBEX
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23421

                                                                      #6019
                                                                      month >=8 and DAY and WP<=40 and op:WP <=35 and season >=2012 and H


                                                                      6-0 (-129) (3.17)


                                                                      kc won on this twice last year.. 9-1 and 6-4


                                                                      kc -105


                                                                      just do this on occasion for weekday afternoon games..understand the arguments against this method (back fitting, small sample size and logic related)


                                                                      all horses will be in the contest thread.. not going to double post (except for the "you paid what for that horse" thread)
                                                                      Last edited by JBEX; 09-05-19, 11:32 AM.
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                                                                      • JBEX
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 23421

                                                                        #6020
                                                                        parx

                                                                        R3 #7 trunk of money (7-2)
                                                                        R5 #7 dennis diamond (10-1)
                                                                        R6 #7 terry's charm (10-1)
                                                                        R7 #9 sweet august lady (8-1)


                                                                        R9 #1 charly's charm (3-1)
                                                                        R10 #4 no hiding place (12-1)




                                                                        indiana grande


                                                                        R8 #2 arch socialite (5-1)
                                                                        Last edited by JBEX; 09-10-19, 12:13 PM.
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