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  • Wallco99
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    • 01-01-11
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    #176
    2/26/11 – JM NHL v1 Plays
    2010-11 System to date: 54-1

    Detroit Red Wings (M/L) @ Buffalo v1 (A)
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    • jcygts6
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      • 04-05-09
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      #177
      Interested in the systems you been working on walco
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      • Wallco99
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        #178
        Originally posted by jcygts6
        Interested in the systems you been working on walco
        Have you checked out my NBA Chase 110, currently 63-0
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        • Wallco99
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          #179
          Originally posted by jcygts6
          Interested in the systems you been working on walco
          Have you checked out my NBA Chase 110, currently 63-0.
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          • ross607
            SBR Hustler
            • 02-18-11
            • 62

            #180
            You should give wallco's NBA chase system a serious look... has been very profitable for me the short time i've been following. Thanks for all the hard work here and on the NBA thread wallco you're a legend!
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            • Wallco99
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              #181
              Originally posted by ross607
              You should give wallco's NBA chase system a serious look... has been very profitable for me the short time i've been following. Thanks for all the hard work here and on the NBA thread wallco you're a legend!
              Thank you very much. Glad I can help.
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              • TRE1968
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                • 08-09-09
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                #182
                does anybody have stats on prior years with this system
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                • Wallco99
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                  #183
                  JM NHL v1 System
                  2010-11 System to date: 55-1

                  (2/26/11) Detroit (M/L) v1 (A) - Win

                  (A) 39-17
                  (B) 10-7

                  (C) 6-1

                  There are no plays for (2/27/11 – 3/4/11)

                  Next JM v1 plays:
                  (3/5/11) Chicago Black Hawks @ Toronto v1 (A)
                  (3/5/11) Edmonton Oilers @ Colorado v1 (A)
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                  • on3
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                    • 08-23-10
                    • 2197

                    #184
                    hey wallco, have you heard of the "opening game favorite" system? it works for both baseball and hockey. last year hockey went 94-1 and baseball went something like 246-7 (~+200 units)-- both very profitable on a labby line setup. i think hockey has two losses this year and baseball was 231-10 (+175 units).
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                    • imotiv8
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-28-09
                      • 892

                      #185
                      Originally posted by on3
                      hey wallco, have you heard of the "opening game favorite" system? it works for both baseball and hockey. last year hockey went 94-1 and baseball went something like 246-7 (~+200 units)-- both very profitable on a labby line setup. i think hockey has two losses this year and baseball was 231-10 (+175 units).
                      how does the system work?
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                      • Wallco99
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                        • 01-01-11
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                        #186
                        Originally posted by on3
                        hey wallco, have you heard of the "opening game favorite" system? it works for both baseball and hockey. last year hockey went 94-1 and baseball went something like 246-7 (~+200 units)-- both very profitable on a labby line setup. i think hockey has two losses this year and baseball was 231-10 (+175 units).
                        No, feel free to elaborate though. Sounds interesting.
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                        • COYLO
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                          • 10-18-10
                          • 2844

                          #187
                          Originally posted by on3
                          hey wallco, have you heard of the "opening game favorite" system? it works for both baseball and hockey. last year hockey went 94-1 and baseball went something like 246-7 (~+200 units)-- both very profitable on a labby line setup. i think hockey has two losses this year and baseball was 231-10 (+175 units).
                          can you elaborate on this "opening game fav" i have been looking at a system that sounds similar
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                          • RAK
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 11-29-10
                            • 237

                            #188
                            Stop teasing. Please explain the system.

                            Originally posted by on3
                            hey wallco, have you heard of the "opening game favorite" system? it works for both baseball and hockey. last year hockey went 94-1 and baseball went something like 246-7 (~+200 units)-- both very profitable on a labby line setup. i think hockey has two losses this year and baseball was 231-10 (+175 units).
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                            • Wallco99
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                              #189
                              JM NHL v1 System
                              2010-11 System to date: 55-1


                              There are no JM v1 plays for (2/28/11)
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                              • TRE1968
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                                • 08-09-09
                                • 425

                                #190
                                play any team that opens 3 gm home stand of -150 or more
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                                • TRE1968
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                                  • 08-09-09
                                  • 425

                                  #191
                                  chase for 3 games dont matter lines on gms 2 and 3
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                                  • on3
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                                    • 08-23-10
                                    • 2197

                                    #192
                                    Tre basically spelled it out before I could. Any team that is opening up a home stand of 3 games or more and starts game 1 of that home stand as a -145 or more favorite (closing line), chase for three games.
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                                    • jcygts6
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                                      • 04-05-09
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                                      #193
                                      seems risky to me. WHat if the 2nd and 3rd game starting pitchers are very bad
                                      DO WORK + KROW OD
                                      do work! do work! do work! do work!
                                      od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                                      • Wallco99
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                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by on3
                                        Tre basically spelled it out before I could. Any team that is opening up a home stand of 3 games or more and starts game 1 of that home stand as a -145 or more favorite (closing line), chase for three games.
                                        Just to get the verbage right, which are you considering "more" than -150. Would that be -140, which actually is more, or -160? I assume you are playing game 1 of the series, you won't know the final line until seconds before the game starts. How do you handle this? Are you chasing the M/L, or the Puck/run Line?
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                                        • Wallco99
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                                          #195
                                          JM NHL v1 System
                                          2010-11 System to date: 55-1


                                          There are no JM v1 plays for (3/1/11)
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                                          • Wallco99
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                                            #196
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                                            • Wallco99
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                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by on3
                                              hey wallco, have you heard of the "opening game favorite" system? it works for both baseball and hockey. last year hockey went 94-1 and baseball went something like 246-7 (~+200 units)-- both very profitable on a labby line setup. i think hockey has two losses this year and baseball was 231-10 (+175 units).
                                              How can a three game chase system, with 10 losses at higher than -110 odds, be +175 units with only 231 wins. Minimum cost of a loss if playing M/L is 9 units, figuring -1.5 units on (A), and -2.5 unit for (B) & 5 units for (C) if team was a dog last two games. That is the minimun a loss could cost, less pushes. It would be considerably more if team was favored all three, or playing P/L in games. I need better info on this. I will backtest the hell out of it for you if it seems good, but I will need all accurate details. Maybe even a .pdf of the system if it is out there.
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                                              • on3
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                                                • 08-23-10
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                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                How can a three game chase system, with 10 losses at higher than -110 odds, be +175 units with only 231 wins. Minimum cost of a loss if playing M/L is 9 units, figuring -1.5 units on (A), and -2.5 unit for (B) & 5 units for (C) if team was a dog last two games. That is the minimun a loss could cost, less pushes. It would be considerably more if team was favored all three, or playing P/L in games. I need better info on this. I will backtest the hell out of it for you if it seems good, but I will need all accurate details. Maybe even a .pdf of the system if it is out there.
                                                If the opening line is more than -145 (-150, -160, etc), it is a play. There may be some late additions to the play for the day if a team at, say -140 has been bet up to -150. Also, there may be a late subtraction if a team that opened at -145 got bet down to -130, etc. Usually, there is more than enough time to gauge which team will be a play and which wont.

                                                You would be betting on ML, but for favorites over -300 the RL was used. The units were calculated using an aggressive labby. Instead of putting the losses at the end of the line, they were added to the last number on the line.

                                                10-10-10-10
                                                10-10-10-10
                                                after a loss, became:
                                                10-10-10-15
                                                10-10-10-15

                                                Here are some of the breakdowns from last year for baseball:

                                                Game 1 wins =154
                                                Game 2 wins = 57
                                                Game 3 wins = 21
                                                *Losses = 10


                                                Two game series' went 11-2. Also, there was an over/under filter of 9 runs that was applied to the figures and that brought the total to 110-3 (89-2 for home teams).


                                                Let me know if you can backtest and see if this looks good. Thanks.
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                                                • Wallco99
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                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by on3
                                                  If the opening line is more than -145 (-150, -160, etc), it is a play. There may be some late additions to the play for the day if a team at, say -140 has been bet up to -150. Also, there may be a late subtraction if a team that opened at -145 got bet down to -130, etc. Usually, there is more than enough time to gauge which team will be a play and which wont.

                                                  You would be betting on ML, but for favorites over -300 the RL was used. The units were calculated using an aggressive labby. Instead of putting the losses at the end of the line, they were added to the last number on the line.

                                                  10-10-10-10
                                                  10-10-10-10
                                                  after a loss, became:
                                                  10-10-10-15
                                                  10-10-10-15

                                                  Here are some of the breakdowns from last year for baseball:

                                                  Game 1 wins =154
                                                  Game 2 wins = 57
                                                  Game 3 wins = 21
                                                  *Losses = 10


                                                  Two game series' went 11-2. Also, there was an over/under filter of 9 runs that was applied to the figures and that brought the total to 110-3 (89-2 for home teams).


                                                  Let me know if you can backtest and see if this looks good. Thanks.
                                                  I don't play labby, but I can check it out for standard chase. I assume on the (A) bet, we are placing wager as late as possible, and (B) & (C) we are trying to get best line. Do you have a formal .pdf for this system. To many "ifs" for me to properly test this. I need to see actual rules in full.
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                                                  • docvinny
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                                                    • 11-21-09
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                                                    #200
                                                    great thread thanks for all the info
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                                                    • kamzy89
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                                                      • 02-28-11
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                                                      #201
                                                      Im new to this so i was hoping somebody could explain how this system works? Dont understand what ML, v1 etc mean?
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                                                      • on3
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                                                        • 08-23-10
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                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                        I don't play labby, but I can check it out for standard chase. I assume on the (A) bet, we are placing wager as late as possible, and (B) & (C) we are trying to get best line. Do you have a formal .pdf for this system. To many "ifs" for me to properly test this. I need to see actual rules in full.
                                                        Sorry, no PDF, this was just from some friends who have been using for a 3-4 seasons so far. I can help fill in the "ifs" as much as possible, but I guess make some assumptions when you back test and maybe you can find a filter that works even better!
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                                                        • bauerranch
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                                                          • 08-01-10
                                                          • 611

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by on3
                                                          Sorry, no PDF, this was just from some friends who have been using for a 3-4 seasons so far. I can help fill in the "ifs" as much as possible, but I guess make some assumptions when you back test and maybe you can find a filter that works even better!
                                                          Sounds like something I would be willing to try!
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                                                          • Wallco99
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                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by on3
                                                            Sorry, no PDF, this was just from some friends who have been using for a 3-4 seasons so far. I can help fill in the "ifs" as much as possible, but I guess make some assumptions when you back test and maybe you can find a filter that works even better!
                                                            Do any of them have .pdf. It makes back test much much easier.
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                                                            • Wallco99
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                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by kamzy89
                                                              Im new to this so i was hoping somebody could explain how this system works? Dont understand what ML, v1 etc mean?
                                                              SportsBettingChamp.com NHL Hockey Betting System
                                                              Here’s the NBA betting system in detail. As long as you strictly follow my betting guidelines below, you will be winning almost all of your NHL bets.
                                                              In a nutshell, you will be betting that one team is going to win at least one game in a consecutive 3-game away series versus the opposing teams where at least 1 of their opponents is from the opposite conference. Always bet on the +1.5 Run Line if your team is the underdog, and always bet on the Money Line if your team is the favorite. This is a bet that you will win more than 98% of the time.
                                                              Before I go into detail on how to make the bets, I will go over the money management system. There are only three bet values you should stick to: Bet A; Bet B; and Bet C.
                                                              Bet A
                                                              = Your beginning bet. I recommend you set your beginning bet at $100 when you first start out.

                                                              Bet B
                                                              = In case Bet A fails, you make bet B to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A, plus any profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A was $100, your Bet B can be $250.

                                                              Bet C
                                                              = In case Bet B fails, you make bet C to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A plus Bet B, plus profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A plus Bet B was $350, your Bet C can be $650.
                                                              There is no Bet D, or E, or anything thereafter. If you lose Bet C, you lose the bet. However, do not be concerned, because losing a Bet C is something that will almost never happen. I’ll talk more about that later. Here’s the betting system:
                                                              1. 1.
                                                              Check the NHL schedule and mark down any series where one team will be playing at least 3 consecutive games on the road.
                                                              2.
                                                              For the team that will be playing 3 or more consecutive games on the road, check to make sure that at least 1 of their 3 opponents is from the opposite conference.
                                                              3.
                                                              If at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposite conference, then make a bet A for the team on the road on its first day.
                                                              4.
                                                              If you lose bet A, make a bet B on their next game for the same team.
                                                              5.
                                                              If you lose bet B, make a bet C on their next game for the same team.
                                                              Now keep this in mind: ALWAYS bet on the money line if the team you’re betting on is the favorite to win. ALWAYS bet on the +1.5 puck line if the team you’re betting on is the underdog. You can check to see which team is the favorite or the underdog by looking at the puck line in the bet lineup. A team showing a +1.5 in the puck line means

                                                              they are the underdog. A team showing a -1.5 in the run line means they are the favorite. Basically, you always take the +1.5 puck line if it is offered for your team. If the puck line shows as -1.5, then take the money line instead.
                                                              Remember: Whenever you are betting on the +1.5 puck line,
                                                              you’ll win the bet even if your team loses by 1!
                                                              Here are the NHL teams from the Eastern Conference:
                                                              New Jersey Devils
                                                              New York Islanders
                                                              New York Rangers
                                                              Philadelphia Flyers
                                                              Pittsburgh Penguins
                                                              Boston Bruins
                                                              Buffalo Sabres
                                                              Montreal Canadiens
                                                              Ottawa Senators
                                                              Toronto Maple Leafs
                                                              Atlanta Thrashers
                                                              Carolina Hurricanes
                                                              Florida Panthers
                                                              Tampa Bay Lightning
                                                              Washington Capitals

                                                              Here are the NHL teams from the Western Conference:
                                                              Chicago Blackhawks
                                                              Columbus Blue Jackets
                                                              Detroit Red Wings
                                                              Nashville Predators
                                                              St. Louis Blues
                                                              Calgary Flames
                                                              Colorado Avalanche
                                                              Edmonton Oilers
                                                              Minnesota Wild
                                                              Vancouver Canucks
                                                              Anaheim Ducks
                                                              Dallas Stars
                                                              Los Angeles Kings
                                                              Phoenix Coyotes
                                                              San Jose Sharks
                                                              Important: When a team is going into a 6-game series, DO NOT break it down into two different 3-game series. You should only play the first 3 games of the road trip, regardless of how many consecutive road games your team is going on (assuming of course that at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from the opposing conference)

                                                              Another exception is that you should never bet on a team that is starting their series in one of their first 3 games of the season. The reason for this is that at the start of the season, the oddsmakers are still not entirely familiar with the strengths of the teams, and as a result would heighten the level of risks involved with betting. Wait until your team has played at least 3 games in the NHL season before making any wagers that fall under the system.
                                                              One final exception is that you should never bet on a team who has the worst road record in league. A team with the worst road record in the league carry a much greater risk, and it's better to be safe than sorry.
                                                              Now, I want to give you an example from the 2008-09 NHL season to make sure you’re able to follow the betting method. On 10/27/08, the Boston Bruins (Eastern Conference) had a road game versus the Edmonton Oilers (Western Conference). Their next game was also a road game versus Vancouver (Western Conference) on 10/28. On 10/30 they had another road game versus Calgary (Western Conference). This means that Boston had three consecutive games on the road where at least 1 out of the 3 teams they're playing against is from an opposing conference. Note that in this case, all 3 of Boston's opponents are from the opposite conference. However, keep in mind that as long as at least just 1 of the teams can be from the opposite conference in order to make the series eligible for play.

                                                              Since this Boston series qualify as a play, on 10/27/08 you would bet on the Boston Bruins in the +1.5 puck line in their game versus the Edmonton Oilers, starting with the amount you’ve set to bet on in your Bet A. As it turned out, Boston won the game 1-0. You would stop here and move on to the next eligible series.
                                                              If, however, Boston had lost on that A bet, then you would have needed to follow up on the bet on 10/28 when Boston played Vancouver, and again on the puck line since the +1.5 puck line was offered. Had your B bet lost again, then you would need to place a C bet on Boston again on 10/30 (again on the +1.5 puck line since that was offered).
                                                              I can assure you that you will almost never lose a betting series by following my system. In an entire NHL season, as long as you follow my guidelines, your chances of winning by the B bet level is over 90%. Your chances of losing bet C in any series is
                                                              close to 0%. Bet under these rules and you will profit. Whenever you win a bet in any series, stop and move on to the next one. If you have a huge bankroll, your Bet A can start out higher, provided that you have enough in your bankroll to make a Bet B and a Bet C if needed. Similarly, if you have a small bankroll, your Bet A can be smaller. Enjoy!

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                                                              • Wallco99
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                                                                • 01-01-11
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                                                                #206
                                                                JM NHL v1 System
                                                                2010-11 System to date: 55-1


                                                                There are no JM v1 plays for (3/2/11)
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                                                                • on3
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-23-10
                                                                  • 2197

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                  Do any of them have .pdf. It makes back test much much easier.
                                                                  None of them have a .pdf. Sorry.
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                                                                  • Wallco99
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                                                                    #208
                                                                    JM NHL v1 System
                                                                    2010-11 System to date: 55-1


                                                                    There are no JM v1 plays for (3/3/11)
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                                                                    • Wallco99
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                                                                      • 01-01-11
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                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by on3
                                                                      If the opening line is more than -145 (-150, -160, etc), it is a play. There may be some late additions to the play for the day if a team at, say -140 has been bet up to -150. Also, there may be a late subtraction if a team that opened at -145 got bet down to -130, etc. Usually, there is more than enough time to gauge which team will be a play and which wont.

                                                                      You would be betting on ML, but for favorites over -300 the RL was used. The units were calculated using an aggressive labby. Instead of putting the losses at the end of the line, they were added to the last number on the line.

                                                                      10-10-10-10
                                                                      10-10-10-10
                                                                      after a loss, became:
                                                                      10-10-10-15
                                                                      10-10-10-15

                                                                      Here are some of the breakdowns from last year for baseball:

                                                                      Game 1 wins =154
                                                                      Game 2 wins = 57
                                                                      Game 3 wins = 21
                                                                      *Losses = 10


                                                                      Two game series' went 11-2. Also, there was an over/under filter of 9 runs that was applied to the figures and that brought the total to 110-3 (89-2 for home teams).


                                                                      Let me know if you can backtest and see if this looks good. Thanks.
                                                                      You say 89-2 for home team, what about the rest of the games? I thought we were only playing the home teams. So any if "game 1" was over 9 runs, the series was skipped, and the result was half the amount of plays. Is this correct?
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                                                                      • on3
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-23-10
                                                                        • 2197

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                        You say 89-2 for home team, what about the rest of the games? I thought we were only playing the home teams. So any if "game 1" was over 9 runs, the series was skipped, and the result was half the amount of plays. Is this correct?
                                                                        NHL is only home stands of 3 or more games. MLB is any 3 game series home or away.
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