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  • EmpireMaker
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    • 06-18-09
    • 15580

    #36
    Pujols is starting to wake up....... missed out on Norris someone ahead of me in the waiver order got him
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    • milwaukee mike
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      • 08-22-07
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      #37
      are we going to keep this thread going just to get an extra point every day?

      seems silly but i'm all for it
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      • EmpireMaker
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        • 06-18-09
        • 15580

        #38
        Pagan, Rios, C lee, Luke Scott, Ross, Cuddyer, J Bruce, Zobrist who are the best 3 fantasy (eligible) outfielders here ?
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        • milwaukee mike
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          • 08-22-07
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          #39
          carlos lee will be injury prone, so I would pick 3 others
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          • JAKEPEAVY21
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            • 03-11-11
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            #40
            Jay Bruce is #1 on your list...
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            • EmpireMaker
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              • 06-18-09
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              #41
              I have Bruce Cuddyer Zobrist and Viciedo are any of the others better than what I have ?
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              • milwaukee mike
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                • 08-22-07
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                #42
                That sounds pretty good empire maker

                Why are you picking up 3 outfielders?
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                • Robber
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                  • 10-21-09
                  • 6432

                  #43
                  Pujols red hit anyone who stole him looks great.

                  Only stupid people would dump him for little tho
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                  • infamousbacardi
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                    • 03-16-08
                    • 4556

                    #44
                    Ross is pretty solid in that Sox line up when he is healthy obviously. Not a bad option...
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                    • koz-man
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                      • 11-21-08
                      • 7102

                      #45
                      I would never trade Pujols.
                      Have to feel that its just a matter of time...
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                      • Mikail
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                        • 07-19-09
                        • 21689

                        #46
                        and look at Pujols now.
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                        • EmpireMaker
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                          • 06-18-09
                          • 15580

                          #47
                          Pujols is finally getting fit and getting his timing back woulda been a steal if I coulda got him... I don't love my outfield I think some of these guys I mentioned could possibly turn out better than the guys I have..... I have Weaver too hope this injury isn't too serious
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                          • EmpireMaker
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                            • 06-18-09
                            • 15580

                            #48
                            Carlos Quentin is back, anyone like him better than any of my outfielders ?
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                            • koz-man
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                              • 11-21-08
                              • 7102

                              #49
                              I'm not big on Quentin. Tough ballpark to hit in @ SD.
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                              • dudekid
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                                • 12-08-09
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                Pagan, Rios, C lee, Luke Scott, Ross, Cuddyer, J Bruce, Zobrist who are the best 3 fantasy (eligible) outfielders here ?
                                these guys are all pretty much in the same tier, but id go with pagan, c lee, and cuddyer
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                                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                  • 03-11-11
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                                  #51
                                  no to Quentin, too injury prone and plays at Petco Park
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                                  • EmpireMaker
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                                    • 06-18-09
                                    • 15580

                                    #52
                                    Quentin strikes out a lot too, only thing is, he has a lot of power and can hit home runs in bunches
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                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                      • 03-11-11
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                                      #53
                                      Quentin has looked locked in the first 2 games, hitting the ball hard...might be worth picking him up
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                                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                        • 03-11-11
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                                        #54
                                        another homer for Quentin...guy swingin a hot stick
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                                        • koz-man
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                                          • 11-21-08
                                          • 7102

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                          another homer for Quentin...guy swingin a hot stick
                                          Yah, he might be worth a look. Seems like he is in the zone
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            • 03-11-11
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                                            #56
                                            3 games for Quentin this season...7 hits, 6 of which are extra base hits(3 homers)
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                                            • peacebyinches
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                                              • 02-13-10
                                              • 1112

                                              #57
                                              Without a doubt go with pujols in this trade, depends on your current team though
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                                              • EmpireMaker
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                                                • 06-18-09
                                                • 15580

                                                #58
                                                Quentin get on big streaks ... he tore up the minors too
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                                                • EmpireMaker
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                                                  • 06-18-09
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                                                  #59
                                                  I would have to drop Cuddyer or Bruce to take Quentin what do you guys think ???
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                                                  • EmpireMaker
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                                                    • 06-18-09
                                                    • 15580

                                                    #60
                                                    I could also drop Zobrist or Infante to pick up Quentin, any of these moves sound like a good idea ???
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                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                      • 03-11-11
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                                                      #61
                                                      out of the 4 players you suggested dropping, Cuddyer is your guy in my opinion...let's see how Quentin does at Petco Park..
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                                                      • mp5070
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                                                        • 09-13-08
                                                        • 5446

                                                        #62
                                                        ... Pujols
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                                                        • stevenash
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                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 65568

                                                          #63
                                                          Is this a 5x5 league?

                                                          Kyle Lohse has made 11 starts this season, he will make 24 more (providing he does not get injured)

                                                          Of those 24 starts, he will win 10, no more than 11 games. You can pretty much make book on that.
                                                          He will be a 16 game winner, maybe 17 game winner.

                                                          Lohse WH/IP ratio is 1.21 right now, and his ERA is 3.36
                                                          I expect those numbers to inch up some, and after 35 starts should end the season with 16 wins, 1.26 WH/IP ratio and ERA of 3.41
                                                          Those are three categories you need to win, and he gives you that. Wins, WH/IP and ERA
                                                          What Lohse won't give you is King Hernandez type strikeouts, Lohse will not help you in the strike out category, he doesn't close, so saves you have to throw out.

                                                          Lohse will help you in 3 out 5 pitching categories, not help in the K department.
                                                          Lohse is one of those pitchers that you need on your staff if you want to win a fantasy league, because you can't all have a staff of Verlander, Kershaw, etc. etc.

                                                          Regarding Pujols, he hits .330 + every year, he hits 30 + homers every year, that's a given, obviously he will fall short of those numbers, however he is at .243 right now and climbing, he has 8 homers now and that will climb, he is too good a hitter not to improve on those numbers, and history proves he is capable.

                                                          I expect Albert to hit about 23 or so more homers to finish around 32 or so, he will hit about .320 going forward to finish the season, I am guessing around .288? He'll drive a lot more runs going forward now.

                                                          Pujols from June 1 onward will be a force I believe, he will give you major HR points, RBI points, BA points.......

                                                          Cuddyer is a nice player, vastly underrated, he's at .282 right now, and will finish right around there.
                                                          He'll give you 11 to 14 more homers from June 1 onward, and he'll drive in maybe 62 more to wind up in the mid to upper 90's RBI's.

                                                          Pretty close trade, edge to the Pujols side, but know this, if Pujols has to go 30 day disabled list at anytime, that person's season is screwed, done, no chance.

                                                          But edge to Albert.
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                                                          • dynamite140
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                                                            • 07-05-08
                                                            • 4958

                                                            #64
                                                            pujols
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                                                            • koz-man
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                                                              • 11-21-08
                                                              • 7102

                                                              #65
                                                              I would not drop Zobrist or Infante.
                                                              I'm still not sold on Quentin, yes he hit 3 homers but that was at Wrigley. Petco will not give up much.

                                                              disclaimer: Because I said this, watch him go on a ripper
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                                                              • Terrapin Station
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                                                                • 01-05-10
                                                                • 2583

                                                                #66
                                                                Love the way Quentin has been playing. I lucked out picking him up on a whim right when he got off DL, enjoyed his three games against the Cubs.
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                                                                • EmpireMaker
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 06-18-09
                                                                  • 15580

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                  Is this a 5x5 league?

                                                                  Kyle Lohse has made 11 starts this season, he will make 24 more (providing he does not get injured)

                                                                  Of those 24 starts, he will win 10, no more than 11 games. You can pretty much make book on that.
                                                                  He will be a 16 game winner, maybe 17 game winner.

                                                                  Lohse WH/IP ratio is 1.21 right now, and his ERA is 3.36
                                                                  I expect those numbers to inch up some, and after 35 starts should end the season with 16 wins, 1.26 WH/IP ratio and ERA of 3.41
                                                                  Those are three categories you need to win, and he gives you that. Wins, WH/IP and ERA
                                                                  What Lohse won't give you is King Hernandez type strikeouts, Lohse will not help you in the strike out category, he doesn't close, so saves you have to throw out.

                                                                  Lohse will help you in 3 out 5 pitching categories, not help in the K department.
                                                                  Lohse is one of those pitchers that you need on your staff if you want to win a fantasy league, because you can't all have a staff of Verlander, Kershaw, etc. etc.

                                                                  Regarding Pujols, he hits .330 + every year, he hits 30 + homers every year, that's a given, obviously he will fall short of those numbers, however he is at .243 right now and climbing, he has 8 homers now and that will climb, he is too good a hitter not to improve on those numbers, and history proves he is capable.

                                                                  I expect Albert to hit about 23 or so more homers to finish around 32 or so, he will hit about .320 going forward to finish the season, I am guessing around .288? He'll drive a lot more runs going forward now.

                                                                  Pujols from June 1 onward will be a force I believe, he will give you major HR points, RBI points, BA points.......

                                                                  Cuddyer is a nice player, vastly underrated, he's at .282 right now, and will finish right around there.
                                                                  He'll give you 11 to 14 more homers from June 1 onward, and he'll drive in maybe 62 more to wind up in the mid to upper 90's RBI's.

                                                                  Pretty close trade, edge to the Pujols side, but know this, if Pujols has to go 30 day disabled list at anytime, that person's season is screwed, done, no chance.

                                                                  But edge to Albert.
                                                                  Nice analysis, I am in a heads up league. Lohse always starts hot then fades to some degree as the season wears on him. Pujols is starting to hit his stride good things to come.
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                                                                  • EmpireMaker
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                                                                    • 06-18-09
                                                                    • 15580

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                    out of the 4 players you suggested dropping, Cuddyer is your guy in my opinion...let's see how Quentin does at Petco Park..
                                                                    I am waiting to see how he handles Petco it is much harder to hit HRs there than Wrigley with the wind blowing out.
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                      • 03-11-11
                                                                      • 29294

                                                                      #69
                                                                      yep, I picked him up in one of my 3 leagues and have him on bench for now
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                                                                      • koz-man
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                                                                        • 11-21-08
                                                                        • 7102

                                                                        #70
                                                                        If you have room on your bench. He is worth the pick up.
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