2015 MLB Win Totals

[jjgold]

redsoxs over

[stevenash]

Seeing a lot of "overs" here. Every sharp knows if you're going to bet a season win total, you bet the under. Injuries can decimate a team especially in the pitching department.

Tampa Bay Rays Under
Cleveland Indians Under

The pick last season was KC over 81.5 though.
I have to admit, I was heavy on KC over and Oakland under, and I needed a perfect storm to win that under, because on Labor Day, they only needed 5 more wins I think, maybe six.

[EXhoosier10]

Seeing a lot of "overs" here. Every sharp knows if you're going to bet a season win total, you bet the under. Injuries can decimate a team especially in the pitching department.

Or you can find a line that is undervalued and take the over. Taking the over when a line is at/near a teams best case scenario (read -- Cubs @ 83) is bad news, but it was hardly a bad idea to take Washington over 89.5 or Seattle over 81 last year.

[El Nino]

The pick last season was KC over 81.5 though.
I have to admit, I was heavy on KC over and Oakland under, and I needed a perfect storm to win that under, because on Labor Day, they only needed 5 more wins I think, maybe six.

I'd argue Arizona was the easiest team total last season. Covered by 17 games and was a lock about a month and a half into the season. I guess I'd rather have the injuries/slumps/bad starting pitching on my side than hoping a team that is projected for success maintains expectations. I had AZ and Colorado and never sweated them. A lot of sharp lines this year. Padres being pumped up is funny.

[MexicanStallion]

I"m hoping the Reds go over, but need Votto to contribute and the young guys getting better.

[Robber]

Give me cubs under

Below .500

[Otters27]

Rockies over. Hopefully this is the year that TUlo stays healthy

[mlb]

Rockies over. Hopefully this is the year that TUlo stays healthy

just sucks that you are putting your faith in a guy to stay healthy who just can't

[Big Bear]

$60.00	$11,030.92	Pending	8 Team Parlay
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26008 BOS regular season wins under 85½ -110* vs BOS regular season wins over 85½ (Fixed Price)
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26009 CUB regular season wins over 82½ -110* vs CUB regular season wins under 82½ (Fixed Price)
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26012 CWS regular season wins under 81½ +100* vs CWS regular season wins over 81½ (Fixed Price)
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26017 COL regular season wins over 71½ -110* vs COL regular season wins under 71½ (Fixed Price)
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26048 SFO regular season wins under 84 -110* vs SFO regular season wins over 84 (Fixed Price)
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26049 SEA regular season wins over 86½ -110* vs SEA regular season wins under 86½ (Fixed Price)
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26052 STL regular season wins under 87½ -110* vs STL regular season wins over 87½ (Fixed Price)
				Pending	4/5/15 12:00pm Props Baseball 26057 TOR regular season wins over 83 -110* vs TOR regular season wins under 83 (Fixed Price)

[Big Bear]

i'm banking on the White Sox falling apart after Chris Sale or Shark go down with an arm injury. Both of those pitchers have awful mechanics and its only a matter of time before they end up on the DL.

Rockies over 71.5 is a gift.

Giants offense is basically Triple A caliber with the exception of Posey, Belt, and Pence. Everybody else in the division got better except the Giants and D-Backs.

Cardinals will miss the playoffs this year for the first time in a long time.

Blue Jays will win the AL East.

Mariners will win the AL West.

Cubs win atleast 85-86 games and either win the NL Central or get the Wild Card.

[Big Bear]

Red Sox are in big trouble. There are probably 20 pitching staffs better than the Red Sox rotation. Yeah they got a bunch of power in that line-up but they also have a bunch of fat asses who clog up the bases. ( Ortiz, Napoli, Sandoval)

Hanley Ramirez going to struggle defensively in LF.

Buchholz is a gas can at this point in his career.

[theglen123]

Lets get chatting babseball. Never too early

[seaborneq]

How are A's and Rangers within one game of each other(80-79) while in the same division? Did the RAngers get better this offseason? Did the A's get worse? Head to head A's should win 75% of the games. I would take A's over and Rangers under just based on mass talent flight from Rangers the past few years and the A's being able to plug in a scarecrow and win half their games.

[TheLock]

LOL at the Mets having a higher win total than the Marlins.

You can't make this stuff up, boys.

[Big Bear]

How are A's and Rangers within one game of each other(80-79) while in the same division? Did the RAngers get better this offseason? Did the A's get worse? Head to head A's should win 75% of the games. I would take A's over and Rangers under just based on mass talent flight from Rangers the past few years and the A's being able to plug in a scarecrow and win half their games.

Yes A's got much worse. Check out depth charts for teams on MLB.com the A's infield is entirely new.

A's lost John Jaso which is HUGE! they Lost relief pitcher Gregorson, Lester, Samardijija, Jed Lowrie, Donaldson

The Rangers and A's will compete for last place in the division. Rangers may be slightly better this year just b/c last year they had a ton of injuries.

[seaborneq]

Yes A's got much worse. Check out depth charts for teams on MLB.com the A's infield is entirely new.

A's lost John Jaso which is HUGE! they Lost relief pitcher Gregorson, Lester, Samardijija, Jed Lowrie, Donaldson

The Rangers and A's will compete for last place in the division. Rangers may be slightly better this year just b/c last year they had a ton of injuries.

No last place team is going to win 80 games in any division. Moneyball is still good for 80+ wins even if its smoke and mirrors.

[survive]

How are A's and Rangers within one game of each other(80-79) while in the same division? Did the RAngers get better this offseason? Did the A's get worse? Head to head A's should win 75% of the games. I would take A's over and Rangers under just based on mass talent flight from Rangers the past few years and the A's being able to plug in a scarecrow and win half their games.

I like Rangers over...pretty much everything went wrong for them last year with a ton of injuries

[StackinGreen]

Big Bear is blown up. Banking on a Samardzija and Sale injury? Foolish. Sox still go over .500

They'll win 87-88

[Big Bear]

Big Bear is blown up. Banking on a Samardzija and Sale injury? Foolish. Sox still go over .500

They'll win 87-88

watching both of those guys pitch makes
me cringe.

Awful mechanics. Tommy John Surgery.

[stevenash]

]
A's lost John Jaso which is HUGE!

The loss of John Jaso is not huge.
Not HUGE, not huge, not even noticiable.
How is a adequate fielding catcher, that hits .259, with little pop in hit bat HUGE!
Oakland has catching on it's 40 man roster, Oakland has catching down on the farm.
Loss of Jaso is insignificant, he was a spare part.

Think before you post dude, your posts lately have been head scratchers, and I'm being kind.

[Big Bear]

Nashiest apparently you and Billy Bean under estimate the importance of team chemistry.

John Jaso is a great clubhouse guy and a team leader.

Not to mention he has a life time batting average of about .500 with a lot of homeruns at Anaheim. Jaso is hugely responsible for the A's dominance of the Angels in recent years.

[stevenash]

Nashiest apparently you and Billy Bean under estimate the importance of team chemistry.

John Jaso is a great clubhouse guy and a team leader.

Not to mention he has a life time batting average of about .500 with a lot of homeruns at Anaheim. Jaso is hugely responsible for the A's dominance of the Angels in recent years.

Yankees of the past had zero team chemistry, they won a lot of rings.
Can team chemistry throw a ball, or hit a ball?

OK looks like Jaso has 6 career HR's in Anaheim in 6 years.
Looks like a couple of them were insignificant, no bearing on the outcome of a game.
6 in 6 years is not impressive.

Oh, one more thing, Jaso's catching career is over due to concussions.
Not that it's a big thing, he was a medicore defensive catcher with average catching skills.
I believe the Dwar number is 0.4
I'm not wothy.

Once again, the loss of Jaso is not huge.

[Big Bear]

Sam Fuld sucks nash.

ike Davis is a K Machine.

Semien is unproven.

[stevenash]

Oh, one more thing Bear.
Jaso is .286 lifetime in Anaheim, not .500

And no, I belive Donaldson and others are more instrumental to the success, and pitching had a lot to do with it.

Lifetime at Anaheim

Year	Team	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	IBB	SF	GDP	1B	TB	PA	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
2010	Tampa Bay Rays	28	2	10	1	0	1	6	0	1	1	3	0	0	0	0	8	14	30	0.357	0.379	0.5	879
2011	Tampa Bay Rays	20	3	8	2	0	0	2	1	1	3	3	0	0	0	2	6	10	23	0.4	0.478	0.5	978
2012	Seattle Mariners	50	10	15	3	0	3	10	1	0	11	7	0	0	0	1	9	27	61	0.3	0.426	0.54	966
2013	Oakland Athletics	19	5	5	1	0	1	5	0	0	5	2	0	0	0	2	3	9	24	0.263	0.417	0.474	891
2014	Oakland Athletics	26	5	3	0	0	1	3	0	0	1	7	2	0	0	0	2	6	29	0.115	0.148	0.231	379
Totals:		143	25	41	7	0	6	26	2	2	21	22	2	0	0	5	28	66	167	0.287	0.386	0.462	848

[stevenash]

Sam Fuld sucks nash.

ike Davis is a K Machine.

Semien is unproven.

I didn't mention Fuld or Davis or Semien

[Big Bear]

anyway Nasher i guarantee you the A's will regret parting ways with Jaso.

[stevenash]

^
A catcher that can not catch anymore, who hits .259 with limited power.

I don't think anyone in the Oakland front office is losing sleep, no less their jobs over the departure of John Jaso.
This is John Jaso we are speaking of, not Johnny Bench.

Good night Bear, I got to go.

[survive]

anyway Nasher i guarantee you the A's will regret parting ways with Jaso.

Can't tell if serious...

[Andy117]

Nashiest apparently you and Billy Bean under estimate the importance of team chemistry.

John Jaso is a great clubhouse guy and a team leader.

Not to mention he has a life time batting average of about .500 with a lot of homeruns at Anaheim. Jaso is hugely responsible for the A's dominance of the Angels in recent years.

Baseball isn't really a team sport. It's an individual sport played by a team.

[turtlejc]

watching both of those guys pitch makes
me cringe.

Awful mechanics. Tommy John Surgery.

watching sale makes you cringe? sorry that sucks, i like watching a guy throw near 98 mph and hit the black every pitch

will be in the cy young running for the next 7 years

you lost your parlay already, white sox win 82+

[Big Bear]

only a matter of time of before chris sale has to have tommy john

hell even pitchers with good mechanics like Matt Harvey and Jose Fernandez had it.

Chris Sale is putting a lot of pressure on that arm with that herky jerky delivery

[klemopixx]

Phillies over 68.5, barely! That bullpen will win them enough games to get them to 70 but they will STINK this year!

[Big Bear]

Phillies over 68.5, barely! That bullpen will win them enough games to get them to 70 but they will STINK this year!

good value "if" they even try to win

Like the head lines maker at the Atlantis said the Phillies are total sell mode.

If Logan Morrison gets off to a slow start Ryan Howard could be headed to Seattle

[Robber]

Phillies over 68.5, barely! That bullpen will win them enough games to get them to 70 but they will STINK this year!

I agree

They should get to 70. .

[StackinGreen]

only a matter of time of before chris sale has to have tommy john

hell even pitchers with good mechanics like Matt Harvey and Jose Fernandez had it.

Chris Sale is putting a lot of pressure on that arm with that herky jerky delivery

This is a self fulfilling prophecy rather than an empirical one: Apparently Harvey and Fernandez didn't have "good mechanics" because they are the ones injured. Meanwhile, Sale isn't injured and you talk about mechanics.

The reality is that no one really knows. Mark Prior had "perfect mechanics" and ... was out of baseball shortly thereafter. Sale and Samardzija have been pitching at a high level for a long time. You're just guessing. Saberhagen and Quisenberry lasted.

I can give you as many guys who had good mechanics vs. bad supposedly and you will NOT find an injury difference in them.

Sorry, try again.