UFC 140: Jones vs Machida

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  • Vitooch
    SBR MVP
    • 09-26-11
    • 3470
    #106
    Haven't really seen Lentz fight before. Isn't he the fighter considered to have a very boring fighting style by many MMA fans?
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      • jacktheknife
        SBR MVP
        • 09-25-10
        • 1217
        #107
        The splotch of blood on the back of his skull might be a clue. And never mind that he was owning dude until then.
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          • DarkfallOnline
            SBR Rookie
            • 11-26-11
            • 20
            #108
            Originally posted by The HOFF
            Yeah right on the temple. What I don't get is why a 12-6 elbow is illegal, but striking down with the point of the elbow is legal from all other angles. It's the same strike.
            I watched a vid interviewing big John explaining back when they were trying to sanction MMA etc doctors viewed footage of fights to decide what should be legal. Apparently a clip was shown of a fighter taking his opponents back and raining 12-6 elbows down on the back of his neck or something like that.
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              • Kaladarus
                SBR MVP
                • 11-11-09
                • 1876
                #109
                Originally posted by Vitooch
                Looked legal to me. All strikes were by the temple, not back of the head. Betting on Attonito as a heavy favorite isn't the smartest idea IMO.
                Easy to say that after a fight. Especially after a fight he was dominating the whole time until he accepted the elbows. He wasn't really a heavy favorite when he opened either, only like -170.
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                  • NunyaBidness
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-26-09
                    • 9345
                    #110
                    Originally posted by Vitooch
                    Looked legal to me. All strikes were by the temple, not back of the head. Betting on Attonito as a heavy favorite isn't the smartest idea IMO.
                    Rubbing things in with 20/20 hindsight isn't the coolest thing IMO.
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                      • Pew Pew
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-21-10
                        • 2267
                        #111
                        Originally posted by Vitooch
                        Looked legal to me. All strikes were by the temple, not back of the head. Betting on Attonito as a heavy favorite isn't the smartest idea IMO.
                        Thank you very much for your opinion after the fight already ended. It was really, really helpful.
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                          • Vitooch
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-26-11
                            • 3470
                            #112
                            Haha sorry guys.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563
                                #113
                                Originally posted by Vitooch
                                Looked legal to me. All strikes were by the temple, not back of the head. Betting on Attonito as a heavy favorite isn't the smartest idea IMO.
                                If Attonito at -215 is deemed a "heavy favourite" then what is Hominick at -400 to -500 range!?
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                                  • Vitooch
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-26-11
                                    • 3470
                                    #114
                                    I just think there is more value in other fights. Hominick, Mir, Bones, and Sos seem like surer picks. But yea, my bad.
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                                      • Vitooch
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-26-11
                                        • 3470
                                        #115
                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                        If Attonito at -215 is deemed a "heavy favourite" then what is Hominick at -400 to -500 range!?
                                        A super mega favorite
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563
                                            #116
                                            Originally posted by Vitooch
                                            I just think there is more value in other fights. Hominick, Mir, Bones, and Sos seem like surer picks. But yea, my bad.
                                            More value but you dont mention the odds? Do you think there is as much value in Hominick at -500 as there is in him at -280 then?
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563
                                                #117
                                                Lentz loves a guillotine!
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563
                                                    #118
                                                    Bocek's cardio could be an issue here, depends on Lentz's I guess
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                                                      • Vitooch
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-26-11
                                                        • 3470
                                                        #119
                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                        More value but you dont mention the odds? Do you think there is as much value in Hominick at -500 as there is in him at -280 then?
                                                        There is alot more value in Hominick at -280 than at -500, of course. You and I both know that lol. I thought the average odds for that fighter in that fight as it corresponds to the value in that pick was implied.
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                                                          • The Bet Master
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-29-10
                                                            • 2665
                                                            #120
                                                            Bocek
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                                                              • NunyaBidness
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-26-09
                                                                • 9345
                                                                #121
                                                                Bocek over Lentz by being Lentz'd.
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                                                                  • spurginobili
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-09-09
                                                                    • 3065
                                                                    #122
                                                                    LOL @ Lentz, you lost you goofy-looking fukker.
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                                                                      • The HOFF
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-02-08
                                                                        • 4847
                                                                        #123
                                                                        I hate it when fighters get a win without doing anything. Although I suppose Lentz has been given a few of those.
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                                                                          • The HOFF
                                                                            SBR MVP
                                                                            • 07-02-08
                                                                            • 4847
                                                                            #124
                                                                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                            Bocek over Lentz by being Lentz'd.
                                                                            Haha.
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                                                                              • proposition joe
                                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                                • 10-06-11
                                                                                • 532
                                                                                #125
                                                                                That fight went exactly opposite of how I thought it would. Bocek LNP while Lentz goes for subs. Wow.
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                                                                                  • hels
                                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                                    • 04-12-09
                                                                                    • 8767
                                                                                    #126
                                                                                    At least the Toronto judges have a clue how to score a fight this time around.
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                                                                                      • Vitooch
                                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                                        • 09-26-11
                                                                                        • 3470
                                                                                        #127
                                                                                        Bocek could have taken more risks and tried to pass guard with more ferocity, but he displayed solid GnP and great submission defense.
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                                                                                          • Vitooch
                                                                                            SBR MVP
                                                                                            • 09-26-11
                                                                                            • 3470
                                                                                            #128
                                                                                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                                            Rubbing things in with 20/20 hindsight isn't the coolest thing IMO.
                                                                                            That was admittedly arrogant on my part. Not really trying to rub it in although it seems that way.
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                                                                                              • hels
                                                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                                                • 04-12-09
                                                                                                • 8767
                                                                                                #129
                                                                                                Anyone think Lyoto has a chance?
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                                                                                                  • Vitooch
                                                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                                                    • 09-26-11
                                                                                                    • 3470
                                                                                                    #130
                                                                                                    I don't think so. Jones will be able to take Machida down pretty easily and GnP. Can't really find a guy that can match Jones's skillset just yet.
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                                                                                                      • Vitooch
                                                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                                                        • 09-26-11
                                                                                                        • 3470
                                                                                                        #131
                                                                                                        Anyone know if rest of prelims will be available to stream on firstrowsports
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                                                                                                          • hels
                                                                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                                                            • 04-12-09
                                                                                                            • 8767
                                                                                                            #132
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                                                            I don't think so. Jones will be able to take Machida down pretty easily and GnP. Can't really find a guy that can match Jones's skillset just yet.
                                                                                                            You're right, if Lyoto lets Jones have control of the fight it's over before it starts.
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                                                                                                              • iQon
                                                                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                                                                • 04-08-10
                                                                                                                • 1483
                                                                                                                #133
                                                                                                                Where are the prelims airing? Not seeing it on facebook or spike.
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                                                                                                                  • hels
                                                                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                                                                    • 04-12-09
                                                                                                                    • 8767
                                                                                                                    #134
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                                                                    Anyone know if rest of prelims will be available to stream on firstrowsports
                                                                                                                    http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/97216/1/watch-ufc-140-:-preliminaries.html
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                                                                                                                      • NunyaBidness
                                                                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                                                                                        • 9345
                                                                                                                        #135
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                                                                        Anyone know if rest of prelims will be available to stream on firstrowsports
                                                                                                                        I'll let you know after it's over. Seem fair?
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                                                                                                                          • NunyaBidness
                                                                                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                                                                            • 07-26-09
                                                                                                                            • 9345
                                                                                                                            #136
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by hels
                                                                                                                            Anyone think Lyoto has a chance?
                                                                                                                            Until we see Jones take a solid punch, I'll take any solid hitter by KO at +800 or better against him.
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                                                                                                                              • Vitooch
                                                                                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                                                                                • 09-26-11
                                                                                                                                • 3470
                                                                                                                                #137
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                                                                                I'll let you know after it's over. Seem fair?
                                                                                                                                Haha well played. Just realized that streams for all UFC fights are available via a certain social networking account. PM if interested.
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                                                                                                                                  • Vitooch
                                                                                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                                                                                    • 09-26-11
                                                                                                                                    • 3470
                                                                                                                                    #138
                                                                                                                                    Watson appears the more composed fighter.
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                                                                                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                                                                                        • 45563
                                                                                                                                        #139
                                                                                                                                        Jabouin takes first round
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                                                                                                                                          • Vaughany
                                                                                                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                                                                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                                                                                                            • 45563
                                                                                                                                            #140
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                                                                                            I'll let you know after it's over. Seem fair?
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