UFC 140: Jones vs Machida

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by v1y

I'm actually really surprised patrick isn't more of a dog against Ebersole.

yeah I thought more money would come in on Ebersole, guess it still might closer to fight time

**Lick496** · 12-07-11, 05:29 AM

You guys think the line on Soszynski is going to move much?

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by Lick496

You guys think the line on Soszynski is going to move much?

Nope, he'll stay around -200 to -235 range I think

**Lick496** · 12-07-11, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Nope, he'll stay around -200 to -235 range I think

I want to jump on him right now... cause i feel its going to go down. I mean, what edge does Igor have on him?

**proposition joe** · 12-07-11, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Lick496

I want to jump on him right now... cause i feel its going to go down. I mean, what edge does Igor have on him?

There are serious health concerns with Sos. Igor poses no threat BUT there is a chance that Polish Nightmare falls apart in the cage at any point

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by proposition joe

There are serious health concerns with Sos. Igor poses no threat BUT there is a chance that Polish Nightmare falls apart in the cage at any point

I thought he'd had surgeries after his last fight that have solved his back issues? Sure I saw an interview a few months ago with him saying he is in best condition that he's ever been in and got a lot of longstanding lingering issues solved. Have to look in to it some more over next couple days

**proposition joe** · 12-07-11, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

I thought he'd had surgeries after his last fight that have solved his back issues? Sure I saw an interview a few months ago with him saying he is in best condition that he's ever been in and got a lot of longstanding lingering issues solved. Have to look in to it some more over next couple days

His knees are the issue. I've read an article somewhat recently saying that his career longevity will be severely hampered by an untreatable condition. Deterioration or something, I believe

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 10:35 AM

Full odds are out on bookmaker. Rich Attonito at -170 will probably get hammered. Pissed off I haven't got any money in my BM account, all in Sportbet

Like the Watson odds as well, I think it should be closer to 50/50 fight. I see Walel having advantage on ground and good enough stand-up (big height and reach advantage) to hang with Jabouin. Hallman at +125 is worth a pop as well

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-07-11, 10:47 AM

Attonito's chin worries me

I grabbed 1.4u on Attonito at -170. His boxing is decent and his wrestlign should be efficient enough to take this down if need be

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 10:52 AM

Hecht isn't even training with Fiore anymore. He's the head coach over in Cork, Ireland. Have to question the level of sparring that he's getting in

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 12-07-11, 10:52 AM

where do you think the money will come on the Lentz +110 Vs Bocek -140

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

where do you think the money will come on the Lentz +110 Vs Bocek -140

I'd assume Bocek but shouldnt be vast

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-07-11, 11:03 AM

when did hecht step in as a replacement?

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

when did hecht step in as a replacement?

Early november

**BIGDAY** · 12-07-11, 11:33 AM

Nice to see Bmaker coming out with more openers.

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Nice to see Bmaker coming out with more openers.

Not for me! Sportbet/5dimes usually offer much better lines when they release!

**sirchadwick1** · 12-07-11, 11:47 AM

Wow, 5dimes released the Machida by dec prop at +1300. I'm big on Bones to win... but had to hedge with that prop. Seriously a nice cushion in case Machida keeps his distance and wins on the judges cards somehow. Can't see him KOing Bones.

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 12:06 PM

KSoz vs Pokrajac...

**BIGDAY** · 12-07-11, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Not for me! Sportbet/5dimes usually offer much better lines when they release!

5Dimes has been taking the back seat as of late as far as openers? Wonder why?

Bmaker has been a good book for me for other sports and I love their moble site. Very easy to look and refresh for when lines drop.

**TheCalculator** · 12-07-11, 04:44 PM

FADING TITO DEEP...

Not sure how recent this video is (uploaded on Dec. 5th) Tito looks VERY unhealthy here. Dark circles under the eyes. Looks smaller and fatter. And he's got 0 hunger left. Living in the achievements on his past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fddRdNRIv1Y&feature=player_embedded

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by TheCalculator

FADING TITO DEEP...

Not sure how recent this video is (uploaded on Dec. 5th) Tito looks VERY unhealthy here. Dark circles under the eyes. Looks smaller and fatter. And he's got 0 hunger left. Living in the achievements on his past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fddRd...layer_embedded

yeah watched tht yesterday and thought the same, looks like he had flu or something. He's also said in the Karen Bryant fight that he's not in the best shape/health he's ever been in and not had the best of camps. Usually he's hyping himself up saying that he's 100% after surgeries blah blah blah

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-07-11, 04:50 PM

nice gives me some reassurance on Lil Nog

**brooks85** · 12-07-11, 05:04 PM

Ya it definitely seems like something is up and reminds me of another time. ive dug around multiple times to find it but roy nelson gave an interview before the mir fight that, too me, clearly showed he was sick.

here we go, forgot he also mentioned he was sick ha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPsBnApeqSY&feature=related

**Vaughany** · 12-07-11, 05:16 PM

Just to play devil's advocate but recently we've heard about fighters who had a whole raft of injuries and illnesses yet still won their fights. Caraway had a load of injuries including fractured hand and had pneumonia week before his fight with Neace

**Vaughany** · 12-08-11, 06:11 AM

Fight week blog week!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB_LICZRd8k&feature=player_embedded

**proposition joe** · 12-08-11, 01:57 PM

On Mir, Ebersole, Lentz large, Attonito and Machida with medium bets, and a flier on Jung. Will play Hallman if it climbs to 140 or more

**bjpenn85** · 12-08-11, 03:15 PM

how do you see Nick Lentz beat bocek?

**Beelzebubzy** · 12-08-11, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

how do you see Nick Lentz beat bocek?

LNP or much improved standup

**bjpenn85** · 12-08-11, 03:45 PM

I think it will be fairly close, but i think bocek have the advantage on the grond. I dont like to bet against people with ground advantage.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 12-08-11, 07:37 PM

**BIGDAY** · 12-08-11, 07:46 PM

Frank Mir by TKO/KO looks decent at +210.

**BIGDAY** · 12-08-11, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Frank Mir by TKO/KO looks decent at +210.

Couldn't pass this value up.

Small action/value play. Already have a parlay that ends with Mir but needed to put a little on this also.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 12-08-11, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Wow, 5dimes released the Machida by dec prop at +1300. I'm big on Bones to win... but had to hedge with that prop. Seriously a nice cushion in case Machida keeps his distance and wins on the judges cards somehow. Can't see him KOing Bones.

Those are nice odds, but personally I only see machida winning by tko/ko, if it goes 5 I think jones will win the D, but who knows. GL

**MMAbetMASTA** · 12-08-11, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by proposition joe

On Mir, Ebersole, Lentz large, Attonito and Machida with medium bets, and a flier on Jung. Will play Hallman if it climbs to 140 or more

Why you like lentz over bocek, joe? I was leaning toward bocek - he's looked good in all his defeats and his wins are brilliant (and you can make a good case he beat J. Miller, a better version of lentz imo, perhaps smaller though). And if it hits the ground I gotta go with a guy who is great on top or off his back, not a guy that just lays there. Stand up is a concern though... Let me know what you're breakdown is son.

Also, V and a few others are on Rich Antonnito, why are some of you going heavy on him? What's the breakdown?

Thanks

**FindTheLock** · 12-09-11, 03:24 AM

This is a favorite heavy card(Juiced) in my opinion. i find it tough to pull the trigger on many of the dogs for this event.