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  • whipton
    SBR Hustler
    • 02-23-13
    • 60

    #36
    Originally posted by Vaughany
    ha so you wouldnt make a straight-up play on him at -600 but would put him in a parlay?
    wheres the value in playing something that chalky straight up ?
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    • Beelzebubzy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-06-11
      • 6995

      #37
      Originally posted by whipton
      wheres the value in playing something that chalky straight up ?
      If you think an apple it's worth 2 dollars and the supermarket is selling it for 1.50, wouldn't you buy it?
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #38
        Originally posted by whipton
        wheres the value in playing something that chalky straight up ?
        where's the value in putting something that chalky in a parlay?
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        • MD
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-31-12
          • 9728

          #39
          Originally posted by whipton
          wheres the value in playing something that chalky straight up ?
          So you think there's value in a parlay, but not straight up?
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          • PunisherIND
            SBR MVP
            • 02-24-11
            • 4980

            #40
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            ha well you can still listen to Rothwell Jnr's Kamikaze Overdrive while you at the gym!
            LMAO rothwell jr HAHA
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            • PunisherIND
              SBR MVP
              • 02-24-11
              • 4980

              #41
              Originally posted by Tommy Blingshyne
              well you dont think noons can win a dec. based on the initial bet and you stated it would be a rather unlikely fluke (maybe 10% more chance then a dec.) for him to win by TKO/KO so what youre really betting on is cerrone by dec., sub or tko/ko and i guess noons by sub right? think its a fair enough assumption that noons isnt subbing cerrone and u already have the str8 up cerrone bet...why not look for cerrone ITD then at a much better price then -530 right? cause based on the convo, it seems like thats really what youre betting on...even 2 single bets on cerrone by sub or cerrone by tko/ko would be more lucrative then not noons by dec...idk just throwing ideas out there...
              tommy, maybe I didn't explain it great, but I actually give noons 0% chance of sub. i'd say 10% itd, either in the form of a flash ko, or fluke injury. 10% chance he wins a decision. put it this way, I like cerrone SU most of all. by playing the -530, i'm still getting cerrone SU for all intents and purposes, and I get a little more coverage in case of a flash ko/fluke injury.
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              • PunisherIND
                SBR MVP
                • 02-24-11
                • 4980

                #42
                Originally posted by MD
                So you think there's value in a parlay, but not straight up?
                here we go again, lol. every fockin week we go thru this shit. don't even waste you're time.
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                • MD
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-31-12
                  • 9728

                  #43
                  Originally posted by PunisherIND
                  here we go again, lol. every fockin week we go thru this shit. don't even waste you're time.
                  Nah bro, let's hear him out. There's a lot about parlays that we still don't know, scientists aren't sure exactly how they work. Who knows what kind of wonders and mysteries they hold?
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                  • whipton
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 02-23-13
                    • 60

                    #44
                    im not going to debate betting styles.. BOL brotha
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                    • MD
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-31-12
                      • 9728

                      #45
                      Originally posted by whipton
                      im not going to debate betting styles.. BOL brotha
                      I don't blame you. All of those value parlays must have really drained your magical energy. I'm sure you're running on empty by now.

                      Such is the price we pay for creating value out of thin air.
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #46
                        lol The value when betting straight-up moneyline is ok, but the value when putting in a parlay is average
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                        • Vaughany
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #47
                          Originally posted by PunisherIND
                          here we go again, lol. every fockin week we go thru this shit. don't even waste you're time.
                          haaahahaha
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                          • Sacrelicious
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-29-12
                            • 5984

                            #48
                            Originally posted by whipton
                            Date: May 25, 2013
                            Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
                            Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena
                            Broadcast: Pay-per-view, FX, Facebook


                            MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET)
                            ==============================
                            Cain Velasquez vs. Antonio Silva - for heavyweight title
                            Junior dos Santos vs. Mark Hunt
                            James Te Huna vs. Glover Teixeira
                            T.J. Grant vs. Gray Maynard
                            Donald Cerrone vs. KJ Noons


                            PRELIMINARY CARD (FX, 8 p.m. ET)
                            ============================
                            Mike Pyle vs. Rick Story
                            Dennis Bermudez vs. Max Holloway
                            Colton Smith vs. Robert Whittaker
                            Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Abel Trujillo


                            PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook, 6:35 p.m. ET)
                            ===================================
                            Nah-Shon Burrell vs. Stephen Thompson
                            Brian Bowles vs. George Roop
                            Estevan Payan vs. Jeremy Stephens


                            @whipthecapper


                            Brian Bowles
                            ============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            ok striker
                            ok punching tech.
                            heavy handed
                            throws various punching combos
                            weak kicker
                            rarely kicks
                            > avg striker in the clinch
                            < avg head movement
                            > avg footwork
                            ok clinch td
                            ok shoot td
                            prefers to shoot for td
                            > avg clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            > avg top control
                            > avg jits
                            avg guard passing ability
                            > avg gnp
                            < avg guard
                            avg chin
                            > avg cardio


                            George Roop
                            ============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            ok striker
                            ok punching tech.
                            throws various punch/kick combos/ 1-2 or 1-2 kick mostly
                            ok kicker
                            > avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            > avg striker in the clinch
                            < avg head movement
                            ok footwork
                            weak clinch td
                            avg shoot td
                            prefers to shoot for a DL against the cage
                            avg clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            > avg top control
                            < avg jits
                            weak guard passing ability
                            ok gnp/good elbows
                            avg guard/ active w/ strikes
                            < avg chin
                            ok cardio


                            Brian via KO or Dec


                            Confidemce meter: 6/10




                            What the Odds should be
                            =======================
                            Brian Bowles -175
                            George Roop +140




                            Stephen Thompson
                            ==================
                            switches stance
                            striker
                            aggressive
                            decent striker
                            > avg punching tech.
                            throws various punch/kick combos
                            good kicker
                            ok leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the leg/body/head
                            throws a variety of kicks
                            avg striker in the clinch
                            < avg head movement
                            > avg footwork
                            weak clinch td
                            weak shoot td
                            rarely attempts td
                            weak clinch trip tdd
                            weak shoot SL or DL tdd
                            weak top control
                            weak jits
                            weak guard passing ability
                            weak top control
                            weak gnp
                            weak guard
                            < avg chin
                            < avg cardio




                            Nah-shon Burrell
                            ================
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            decent striker
                            heavy handed
                            decent punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            avg kicker
                            > avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            > avg striker in the clinch
                            > avg head movement
                            > avg footwork
                            ok clinch td/trip
                            > avg shoot td
                            prefers SL td against the cage
                            weak clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            > avg top control
                            weak jits
                            weak guard passing ability
                            ok gnp
                            < avg guard
                            < avg chin
                            > avg cardio


                            nah-shon burrell via dec


                            Confidence Meter: 5/10


                            what the odds should be
                            ========================


                            Stephen Thompson +110
                            Nah-shon Burrell -130




                            Robert Whittaker (lacked footy)
                            ================================
                            Striker
                            aggressive
                            decent striker
                            contact striker
                            ok punching tech.
                            throws various punch/kick combos
                            good kicker
                            decent leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            avg striker in the clinch
                            avg head movement
                            avg footwork
                            weak clinch td
                            weak shoot td
                            doesn't attempt tds
                            weak clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            top control ???
                            < avg jits
                            guard passing ability
                            > avg gnp
                            avg guard
                            > avg chin
                            ok cardio




                            Colton Smith
                            =============
                            Grappler/striker
                            aggressive grappler/tentative counter strike
                            avg striker
                            contact striker
                            avg punching tech.
                            throws a 1-2 at most
                            avg kicker
                            > avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body
                            avg striker in the clinch/ looks for td
                            < avg head movement
                            > avg footwork
                            good clinch td
                            > avg shoot td
                            prefers DUH td in the clinch
                            < avg clinch tdd
                            < avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            decent top control
                            ok jits
                            > avg guard passing ability
                            ok gnp
                            avg guard
                            < avg chin
                            > avg cardio


                            colton smith via sub 3rd rd


                            Confidence Meter: 5/10


                            What the odds should be
                            =========================
                            Robert Whittaker+155
                            Colton Smith -180




                            Abel Trujillo
                            ==============
                            Striker/Grappler
                            aggressive
                            > avg striker
                            > avg punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            weak kicker
                            weak leg kicks
                            never kicks
                            < avg striker in clinch
                            ok head movement
                            ok footwork
                            decent clinch td
                            rarely shoots for td
                            prefers SL/DL td against the cage
                            avg clinch tdd
                            > avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            ok top control
                            > avg jits
                            avg guard passing ability
                            decent gnp
                            < avg guard
                            > avg chin
                            decent cardio


                            Khabib Nurmagomedov
                            ====================
                            aggressive grappler/counter striker
                            ok striker
                            < avg punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            avg kicker
                            ok leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            avg striker in the clinch
                            > avg head movement
                            ok footwork
                            good DUH clinch td/trip
                            decent shoot SL td
                            prefers to shoot for SL td
                            > avg clinch tdd
                            > avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            ok top control
                            good jits
                            good guard passing ability
                            good gnp
                            > avg active guard
                            ok chin
                            ok cardio


                            Khabib Nurmagomedov via sub rd 1 or dec


                            Confidence meter:5.5/10


                            What the odds should be
                            =======================
                            Khabib Nurmagomedov -300
                            Abel Trujillo +255




                            Dennis Bermudez
                            ===============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            ok striker
                            ok punching tech.
                            heavy handed
                            throws a 1-2 or 1-1-2 combos
                            < avg kicker
                            avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            ok striker in the clinch
                            > avg head movement
                            ok footwork
                            decent clinch td
                            decent shoot SL td
                            prefers DL against the cage
                            avg clinch tdd
                            > avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            ok top control
                            > avg jits
                            > avg guard passing ability
                            ok gnp
                            < avg guard
                            < avg chin
                            ok cardio


                            Max Holloway
                            =============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            decent punching tech.
                            thorws various punch/kick combos
                            decent kicker
                            ok leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            good striker in the clinch/ good body puncher
                            ok head movement
                            ok footwork
                            avg clinch td/trip
                            never shoots for td
                            prefers trips in from the clinch
                            weak clinch tdd
                            < avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            avg top control
                            < avg jits
                            < avg guard passing ability
                            > avg gnp
                            avg active guard
                            ok chin
                            ok cardio


                            dennis bermudez via sub 1st round


                            Confidence Meter: 7/10


                            What the odds should be
                            =======================
                            Dennis Bermudez -350
                            Max Holloway +290




                            Rick Story
                            ==========
                            southpaw
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            decent striker
                            heavy handed
                            ok punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            > avg kicker
                            ok leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body
                            good striker in the clinch/ good body striker
                            avg head movement
                            avg footwork
                            decent clinch td
                            decent shoot SL td
                            prefers to shoot for a DL/SL td against the cage
                            avg clinch tdd
                            < avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            ok top control
                            ok jits
                            > avg guard passing ability
                            deent gnp
                            > avg active guard
                            good chin
                            ok cardio




                            Mike Pyle
                            ==========
                            Striker/grappler
                            ok striker
                            decent punching tech.
                            throws a 1-2 mostly
                            > avg kicker
                            > avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body
                            > avg striker in the clinch
                            < avg head movement
                            ok footwork
                            ok clinch td/trip
                            ok shoot td
                            prefers trip td from the clinch
                            weak clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            ok top control
                            decent jits
                            ok guard passing ability
                            decent gnp
                            decent active guard
                            weak chin
                            ok cardio


                            Rick Story via KO/TKO Rd 1


                            Confidence meter:6.5/10


                            What the odds should be
                            =======================
                            Rick Story -250
                            Mike Pyle +210




                            Donald Cerrone
                            ===============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            decent punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos/ 1-2 or 1-2 kick mostly
                            good kicker
                            good leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            ok striker in the clinch/ good knees
                            weak head movement
                            avg footwork
                            < avg clinch trip td
                            decent shoot DL td
                            prefers to shoot for a DL td
                            < avg clinch tdd
                            < avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            avg top control
                            ok jits
                            ok guard passing ability
                            decent gnp
                            decent active guard
                            ok chin
                            ok cardio




                            KJ Noons
                            ========
                            Striker
                            aggressive
                            decent striker
                            decent punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            > avg kicker
                            ok leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            > avg striker in the clinch/ good body punches
                            decent head movement ???
                            avg footwork
                            weak clinch td
                            < avg shoot td
                            rarely goes for td
                            prefers to shoot for a DL td
                            weak clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            weak top control
                            avg jits
                            weak guard passing ability
                            < avg gnp
                            < avg guard
                            decent chin
                            ok cardio


                            KJ Noons via Decision


                            Confidence meter: 4/10


                            What the odds should be
                            ========================
                            Donald Cerrone -150
                            KJ Noons +125




                            Gray Maynard
                            =============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            decent striker
                            decent punching tech.
                            heavy handed
                            throws various punching combos
                            avg kicker ???
                            > avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/head
                            ok striker in the clinch/good knees
                            > avg head movement
                            ok footwork
                            good clinch td
                            good shoot DL td
                            prefers to shoot for a DL td against the cage
                            avg clinch tdd
                            decent shoot sl or dl tdd
                            decent top control
                            > avg jits
                            > avg guard passing ability
                            decent gnp
                            < avg guard
                            ok chin
                            ok cardio




                            TJ Grant
                            =========
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            decent striker
                            decent punching tech.
                            throws various punching ccombos
                            > avg kicker
                            ok leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            good striker in the clinch/good knees & elbows
                            > avg head movement
                            > avg footwork
                            ok clinch td
                            ok shoot td
                            prefers to shoot for a DL/knee tap td
                            < avg clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            > avg top control
                            decent jits
                            decent guard passing ability
                            ok gnp
                            decent active guard/good sweeps
                            good chin
                            ok cardio


                            Gray Maynard via Decision


                            Confidence Meter: 6.5/10


                            What the odds should be
                            =======================
                            Gray Maynard -250
                            TJ Grant +200




                            Glover Teixeira
                            ================
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            heavy handed
                            ok punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            > avg kicker
                            > avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            ok striker in the clinch
                            > avg head movement
                            avg footwork
                            avg clinch td
                            decent shoot td
                            prefers to shoot for SL/DL td
                            > avg clinch tdd
                            > avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            decent top control
                            good jits
                            good guard passing ability
                            good gnp
                            guard ??? no one has put him on his back in 16 fights
                            decent chin
                            decent cardio




                            James Te Huna
                            ==============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            heavy handed
                            good hand speed
                            good punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            avg kicker
                            > avg leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            avg striker in the clinch
                            > avg head movement
                            > avg footwork
                            decent clinch td
                            ok shoot SL td
                            prefers high-c td against the cage
                            < avg clinch tdd
                            avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            decent top control
                            ok jits
                            ok guard passing ability
                            good gnp
                            < avg guard
                            < avg chin
                            ok cardio


                            Glover Texiera via KO/TKO/SUB Round 1


                            Confidence Meter: 6.5/10


                            What the Odds should be
                            =======================
                            Glover Texiera -250
                            James Te Huna +210




                            Mark Hunt
                            ==========
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            heavy handed
                            decent punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            ok kicker
                            good leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            ok striker in the clinch/good knees
                            avg head movement
                            avg footwork
                            ok clinch td
                            < avg shoot td
                            prefers DUH td/trips in the clinch
                            weak clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            avg top control
                            ok jits
                            > avg guard passing ability
                            decent gnp
                            avg guard
                            good chin
                            avg cardio




                            Junior Dos Santos
                            ==================
                            Striker
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            heavy handed
                            decent punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            > avg kicker
                            ok leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            rarely kicks
                            > avg striker in the clinch/good body punches
                            avg head movement
                            ok footwork
                            > avg clinch td
                            > avg shoot td
                            prefers DUH trips in the clinch
                            rarely attempts tds
                            > avg clinch tdd
                            avg shoot sl or dl tdd
                            < avg top control
                            weak jits
                            weak guard passing ability
                            > avg gnp
                            weak guard
                            decent chin
                            > avg cardio


                            Mark Hunt via KO round 3


                            Confidence Meter:5/10


                            What the Odds Should be
                            =======================
                            JDS -200
                            Hunt +165




                            Cain Velasquez
                            ===============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            good punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos/ 1-2 kick favored
                            decent kicker
                            decent leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            good striker in the clinch/good activity & variety
                            good head movement
                            ok footwork
                            good clinch td
                            good shoot td
                            prefers to shoot for a SL/DL td
                            > avg clinch tdd
                            ok shoot sl or dl tdd
                            good top control
                            > avg jits
                            ok guard passing ability
                            plus gnp
                            guard ???
                            > avg chin
                            good cardio




                            Antonio Silva
                            ==============
                            Striker/grappler
                            aggressive
                            good striker
                            heavy handed
                            ok punching tech.
                            throws various punching combos
                            ok kicker
                            good leg kicks
                            throws kicks to the legs/body/head
                            ok striker in the clinch
                            weak head movement
                            avg footwork
                            ok clinch td/trip
                            decent shoot td
                            prefers to shoot for a DL td
                            weak clinch tdd
                            weak shoot sl or dl tdd
                            decent top control
                            decent jits
                            decent guard passing ability
                            good gnp
                            avg guard
                            avg chin
                            decent cardio


                            cain velasquez via tko round 2


                            confidence meter: 8/10


                            what the odds should be
                            ========================
                            Cain Velasquez -650
                            Antonio Silva +500

                            @whipthecapper
                            WTF is this?
                            Comment
                            • whipton
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 02-23-13
                              • 60

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                              WTF is this?
                              my thread
                              Comment
                              • Sacrelicious
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-29-12
                                • 5984

                                #50
                                Originally posted by whipton
                                my thread
                                Unreal.

                                Comment
                                • whipton
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 02-23-13
                                  • 60

                                  #51
                                  How can I compete with your ever so informative thread ???
                                  Comment
                                  • whipton
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 02-23-13
                                    • 60

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                                    Unreal.

                                    How can I compete with your ever so informative thread ???

                                    Stay positive
                                    Comment
                                    • PunisherIND
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-24-11
                                      • 4980

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by whipton
                                      my thread
                                      oh shit, I thought this was the event thread. lol. my bad for infiltrating dude. next time try to use a different thread title.
                                      Comment
                                      • PunisherIND
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-24-11
                                        • 4980

                                        #54
                                        Ufc 160
                                        Comment
                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #55
                                          lol
                                          Comment
                                          • whipton
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 02-23-13
                                            • 60

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                            oh shit, I thought this was the event thread. lol. my bad for infiltrating dude. next time try to use a different thread title.
                                            Infiltrating ???? Nah bro you're all welcome to post. Why would I care. Positive or negative reactions I love it .
                                            Comment
                                            • PunisherIND
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 4980

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by whipton
                                              Infiltrating ???? Nah bro you're all welcome to post. Why would I care. Positive or negative reactions I love it .
                                              cool. some people get sensitive about their personal threads.
                                              Comment
                                              • mirinquads
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-22-13
                                                • 3927

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                I don't blame you. All of those value parlays must have really drained your magical energy. I'm sure you're running on empty by now.

                                                Such is the price we pay for creating value out of thin air.
                                                Rofl whipton gettin' straight whipped on.
                                                Comment
                                                • whipton
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 02-23-13
                                                  • 60

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                  Rofl whipton gettin' straight whipped on.
                                                  Am I ?
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                                                  • sideloaded
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-21-10
                                                    • 7561

                                                    #60
                                                    dude this is a shit show, everyone think this is ufc 160 thread now
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                                                    • mirinquads
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-22-13
                                                      • 3927

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by whipton
                                                      Am I ?
                                                      You should find a better way to setup your post my friend, You prob. got some valid insight, but this is just wierd and annoying.
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                                                      • whipton
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 02-23-13
                                                        • 60

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                        You should find a better way to setup your post my friend, You prob. got some valid insight, but this is just wierd and annoying.
                                                        Is it weird and annoying because I don't see how.
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                                                        • whipton
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 02-23-13
                                                          • 60

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                          You prob. got some valid insight
                                                          Thanks for the one positive thing you have ever said about me.

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                                                          • Grabaka
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-19-11
                                                            • 3216

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                            cool. some people get sensitive about their personal threads.
                                                            Yeah. You never post in mine. I dont know what im doing wrong
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                                                            • PunisherIND
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-24-11
                                                              • 4980

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Grabaka
                                                              Yeah. You never post in mine. I dont know what im doing wrong
                                                              heehe. I was duped into posting here. i like to stay in neutral territory. international waters, if you will.
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                                                              • whipton
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 02-23-13
                                                                • 60

                                                                #66
                                                                How do I post a pic in my avatar ?? It's not working for me.
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                                                                • PunisherIND
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-24-11
                                                                  • 4980

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by whipton
                                                                  How do I post a pic in my avatar ?? It's not working for me.
                                                                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                                  • whipton
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 02-23-13
                                                                    • 60

                                                                    #68
                                                                    thanks broski
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                                                                    • Tommy Blingshyne
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 12-11-12
                                                                      • 821

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                                      tommy, maybe I didn't explain it great, but I actually give noons 0% chance of sub. i'd say 10% itd, either in the form of a flash ko, or fluke injury. 10% chance he wins a decision. put it this way, I like cerrone SU most of all. by playing the -530, i'm still getting cerrone SU for all intents and purposes, and I get a little more coverage in case of a flash ko/fluke injury.
                                                                      thats why im saying...noons not by dec. means youre betting on cerrone by dec, tko/ko, sub as well as noons by sub, tko/ko all in one bet...noons by dec. would be graded as a loss according to that specific prop...according to what you said, you give noons zero chance at a sub and only 10% chance at a ko/tko...so basically theres pretty much nothing noons can do to help you win your bet according to your analysis, save for a very small chance (10%) via flukey injury or flash KO...so basically, to win your bet, according to what you think, youre really banking on cerrone finishing noons or winning a decision...since you already have cerrone straight up, why not take cerrone ITD +135 odds (5D) or wait till the specific prop odds come out for a tko/ko or sub and play those for even bigger + odds? as opposed to -530 odds...you dont think noons can sub cerrone, you dont think noons can decision cerrone and you only give noons a 10% chance to possible ko him...that pretty much only leaves cerrone by finish or decision...either of those props (itd, tko/ko or sub) would pay out far better then a -530 not noons by dec bet....if you gave noons a real chance at a ko/tko or a sub, this -530 bet would have more sense, but you only give a small fluke chance of a ko/tko and zero chance of a sub...so why make a bet that includes those outcomes if they dont even provide any value to you?
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                                                                      • PunisherIND
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-24-11
                                                                        • 4980

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Tommy Blingshyne
                                                                        thats why im saying...noons not by dec. means youre betting on cerrone by dec, tko/ko, sub as well as noons by sub, tko/ko all in one bet...noons by dec. would be graded as a loss according to that specific prop...according to what you said, you give noons zero chance at a sub and only 10% chance at a ko/tko...so basically theres pretty much nothing noons can do to help you win your bet according to your analysis, save for a very small chance (10%) via flukey injury or flash KO...so basically, to win your bet, according to what you think, youre really banking on cerrone finishing noons or winning a decision...since you already have cerrone straight up, why not take cerrone ITD +135 odds (5D) or wait till the specific prop odds come out for a tko/ko or sub and play those for even bigger + odds? as opposed to -530 odds...you dont think noons can sub cerrone, you dont think noons can decision cerrone and you only give noons a 10% chance to possible ko him...that pretty much only leaves cerrone by finish or decision...either of those props (itd, tko/ko or sub) would pay out far better then a -530 not noons by dec bet....if you gave noons a real chance at a ko/tko or a sub, this -530 bet would have more sense, but you only give a small fluke chance of a ko/tko and zero chance of a sub...so why make a bet that includes those outcomes if they dont even provide any value to you?
                                                                        that 10% makes this bet worthwhile for me. I have cerrone winning 80% of the time, and noons winning itd 10% of the time. so that's 90% of possible outcomes at -530, or 84.1%. I understand a lot disagree with my numbers, but if we're going along with my numbers, I think the bet makes sense. you are right, however, that my bet includes noons by sub, but overall its still has value imo. im not sure I can explain it better. I think the lines for cerrone itd and by decision are about right. I don't see any value there at the moment.
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