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  • Ron_Paul_2012
    SBR MVP
    • 01-31-13
    • 3953

    #211
    Originally posted by Boxscout
    I can't bet it (Thanks Obama!), but outside of the US you can lock up Danny Garcia at + money vs. Khan. I'm not as dismissive of AK as some people are, but that's still nuts. Obviously, you have to be willing to keep the money tied up for a long time, though.
    What about Obama? What are you talking about?
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    • Ron_Paul_2012
      SBR MVP
      • 01-31-13
      • 3953

      #212
      Originally posted by MD
      What's the best resource for finding all upcoming (bettable, preferably) boxing matches? I don't follow boxing as much as I used to, but I have some extra time on my hands due to the lack of upcoming UFC events, so I'd like to catch up on it.
      fightnews.com, boxingscene.com, and check out dwyer70905 on youtube. GL
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      • Boxscout
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-20-12
        • 222

        #213
        "Thanks Obama," is just a meme making fun of people who blame him for everything (though I guess he IS among those to blame for our silly gambling restrictions). I believe this is the seminal work:



        Here's a concise schedule, in addition to the ones Ron offered:

        View All The Up Coming TV Boxing Schedules For Showtime HBO FOX ESPN. The Most Up-to-date Schedule On The Internet. Check Out our Fight Records


        I read this guy's predictions of fights. He tries to cover all the big ones (big by boxing standards, not just mainstream) so there's usually a pretty good correlation to what winds up betable and they guy has some good info in his picks, though obviously I don't always agree with him.



        I might bet on Floyd by Dec if a good price comes along, but the one at 5d now is pretty bad. Casinos might actually have that prop now, so I'll check there.
        Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 05-15-15, 11:50 AM. Reason: image does not exist
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        • mirinquads
          SBR MVP
          • 04-22-13
          • 3927

          #214
          Im interested in you boxing savy peoples perspective on Kessler/Froch. I know Kessler is getting old and all, but +170 seems excessive no? He already 'beat' him once though.
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          • hougigo
            SBR MVP
            • 06-01-12
            • 3665

            #215
            Originally posted by mirinquads
            Im interested in you boxing savy peoples perspective on Kessler/Froch. I know Kessler is getting old and all, but +170 seems excessive no? He already 'beat' him once though.
            This is my 2 cents.... but I think Froch takes it this time.
            He's going to be fighting at home, which is already homefield advantage. So IMO, a close fight could lean a little towards him should it go to the cards.
            I also feel like Cobra gets better with every fight.
            You might not have seen in in Mack, but in the bute fight, he stayed on him, pressured him and kept the fight going to him.
            Also Froch has an Iron like chin which will keep him coming at you.
            I'd take Kessler had it been in Denmark again... but I have a good feeling about Froch at home
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            • NunyaBidness
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-26-09
              • 9345

              #216
              Originally posted by MD
              What's the best resource for finding all upcoming (bettable, preferably) boxing matches? I don't follow boxing as much as I used to, but I have some extra time on my hands due to the lack of upcoming UFC events, so I'd like to catch up on it.
              fightnews, badlefthook, boxrec
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              • mirinquads
                SBR MVP
                • 04-22-13
                • 3927

                #217
                +850 Maligaaggi with a Broner hedge, probably KO. Although I despise the Jersey Shore looking douchbag he def. shouldn't be +850 not with his style and movement. Broner likely gets the KO, but it's a winnable jabfest type fight for Maligaaggi. Anyone know where the fight is going to be held?
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                • bobby heenan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-20-09
                  • 4120

                  #218
                  Originally posted by mirinquads
                  +850 Maligaaggi with a Broner hedge, probably KO. Although I despise the Jersey Shore looking douchbag he def. shouldn't be +850 not with his style and movement. Broner likely gets the KO, but it's a winnable jabfest type fight for Maligaaggi. Anyone know where the fight is going to be held?
                  barclays center in jersey....paulie is one tough sob and has been one of my favorite fighters for awhile...hes passed it....but i cant help but root for him...even though i like broner....if you think paulie is an easy ko watch the cotto fight....ive seen paulie fight live twice....he won me over with his grit and performance against cotto......paulie is a good guy and good for boxing....i just cant see him winning this fight...and while i agree a stoppage is likely hes a tough kid...and broner should be able to overwhelm him
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                  • bobby heenan
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-20-09
                    • 4120

                    #219
                    Originally posted by hougigo
                    This is my 2 cents.... but I think Froch takes it this time.
                    He's going to be fighting at home, which is already homefield advantage. So IMO, a close fight could lean a little towards him should it go to the cards.
                    I also feel like Cobra gets better with every fight.
                    You might not have seen in in Mack, but in the bute fight, he stayed on him, pressured him and kept the fight going to him.
                    Also Froch has an Iron like chin which will keep him coming at you.
                    I'd take Kessler had it been in Denmark again... but I have a good feeling about Froch at home
                    agreed
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                    • mirinquads
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-22-13
                      • 3927

                      #220
                      Well i obviously don't think he's easy to Ko as I'm dropping dime on him, but broners stopping power is legit. I think he can avoid it if he fights his own fight though
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                      • hougigo
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-01-12
                        • 3665

                        #221
                        Originally posted by mirinquads
                        Well i obviously don't think he's easy to Ko as I'm dropping dime on him, but broners stopping power is legit. I think he can avoid it if he fights his own fight though
                        He's a big guy for his weight class. He's moving up 2 weight classes against a guy who's been hit a lot by harder guys.
                        I'll take Broner in a decision or the over when it comes out.
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                        • Boxscout
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-20-12
                          • 222

                          #222
                          Originally posted by mirinquads
                          Im interested in you boxing savy peoples perspective on Kessler/Froch. I know Kessler is getting old and all, but +170 seems excessive no? He already 'beat' him once though.
                          Going to dissent with the others a bit. I put a little on Kessler +170 and more on Kessler by decision at +469 and the over, which is now -180. While I'm giving out links, here is a blog with a full writeup on this fight and this guy's views correspond remarkably well with my own.


                          In a nutshell, these guys fought hard and landed plenty last time and the fight was never really close to being stopped. People might be overreacting a bit to Froch's recent performances. They're great, but I'm not sure what they change about this matchup. His confidence is high, he's on his game, but I think Kessler still has some tactical advantages and he knows how to exploit Froch's stance. Should be another close one and maybe on a roll, at home, Froch should be a small favorite but I wouldn't make him that much of one. So:

                          $1.80 on the over at -180 and $0.25 on kessler by decision at +469.

                          Last week, lost a buck on Fernando. Won $2.53 on Garcia. Total = $10.17
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                          • MD
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-31-12
                            • 9728

                            #223
                            Worth taking Froch -160? I think so. Played it earlier.
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                            • christianshreve
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 11-28-12
                              • 34

                              #224
                              Clearly, Kessler knows this is the time to reverse his fortunes. He has to control the distance at all times, as Froch has improved the economy of motion with his shots. It always seemed strange when he would pull his right hand behind him to lash out with the left.
                              Kessler has to move in and out the whole time, and a loss at this stage would move him out of elite status.
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                              • ballahollic2
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-30-10
                                • 986

                                #225
                                Originally posted by mirinquads
                                +850 Maligaaggi with a Broner hedge, probably KO. Although I despise the Jersey Shore looking douchbag he def. shouldn't be +850 not with his style and movement. Broner likely gets the KO, but it's a winnable jabfest type fight for Maligaaggi. Anyone know where the fight is going to be held?
                                at +850 it is def worth a flier IMO. Odds shouldn't be nearly that high. Paulie has a better chance to win then guerrero did vs floyd. proper odds should probably be like +375. with the fight being at the barclays center it should give him some extra fuel not that he needs it. Broner is magnificent and should be able to overwhelm him but the way Broner acts in the ring and away from the ring I could see him letting Paulie jab him to death and stealing the fight from him and somehow pulling out a decision of some kind if Broner doesn't bring it. Paulie is a gritty SOB
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                                • Boxscout
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 12-20-12
                                  • 222

                                  #226
                                  Tomorrer I figure Matthysse wins late, possibly by late stoppage but more likely by decision. If it were a video game, I think Lamont could win by sticking his jab at max distance, not constantly but with regularity, and then rushing in with movement and mauling Lucas inside and applying some pressure to him. But he doesn't really like to do those things very much and will capitulate to a clinch if they get very close. Both guys are harder to hit than you might think and, for the most part keep their chin areas well protected. Obviously, Lucas can KO anyone at any time, but I figure a KD with a shot higher on the head is more likely. He should also be able to batter LP's body. Couple that with Lamont giving away a round or two at the beginning as he is a big "feel out" guy, and a few more eye catching shots for LM, and Lucas should be able to win most of the time.

                                  In reality, I sprinkled little bets all over depending on prices. I'll clean the table if LM gets a decision and get cleaned out if LP gets the KO. So I'll say the over $1.00 @-160 to win 62 cents. LM to win by dec. 25 cents @ +328 to win 82 cents. LM to win $1.00 @-200 to win 50 cents.
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                                  • Boxscout
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-20-12
                                    • 222

                                    #227
                                    Lost 75 cents, down to $9.42 but it didn't sting too much. Blown away by Lucas' performance. Got a few things right, was wrong about just how good he is. Losing cleanly and perhaps witnessing the birth of a real star > losing on a bad decision or other frustrating boxing crap.

                                    Bellew Chilemba is basically just a mess. I don't know how different it will be the second time around. Chilemba might try to do a bit more early, but I think he'll try to let Tony tire himself out a little. Bellew should adjust to Chilemba by taking a little off his punches and just making sure to score a bit more and conserve his energy. It'll be subjective to score again. Lots of missed punches for Bellew. Periods of inactivity from Chilemba. I think it would be reasonable for over 10.5 to be as high as -400. -275 seems to be at the low end of the spectrum, so I'll take that. $2.00 to win back most of last week, paying 73 cents.

                                    If you like Bellew, the prices on him on 5d are pretty good.

                                    Froch Kessler, already up there somewhere. Slightly better prices available on that over, though Kessler by dec. prices are long gone.
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                                    • visualrealism
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-13-11
                                      • 880

                                      #228
                                      I might do the over when it is available on my book as well.
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                                      • Sacrelicious
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-29-12
                                        • 5984

                                        #229
                                        I got a little bit on Kessler Dec +469 I took a few weeks ago, also on the over -180, best of luck my man.
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                                        • mirinquads
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-22-13
                                          • 3927

                                          #230
                                          Any thoughts on Kessler/Froch fight tonight? Kessler KO +700.. Froch is going to be a lot more aggressive this fight I believe, might just happen, maybe the under? Froch dec would obviously be the most obvious play, but I don't know, both fighter's are getting older.
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                                          • bobby heenan
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-20-09
                                            • 4120

                                            #231
                                            i actually like a play on kessler...but unless he knocks him out itll be tough to get a decision over there
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                                            • DeFactoCrippler
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-30-12
                                              • 2603

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by Boxscout
                                              Going to dissent with the others a bit. I put a little on Kessler +170 and more on Kessler by decision at +469 and the over, which is now -180. While I'm giving out links, here is a blog with a full writeup on this fight and this guy's views correspond remarkably well with my own.
                                              http://www.tkoboxing.net/boxing-bett...ion-to-kessler
                                              shameless plug for his own POS website

                                              classless shit

                                              whats next? we parade around our handicapped children begging for handouts?

                                              or maybe try and sell some insurance
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                                              • MD
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-31-12
                                                • 9728

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler
                                                shameless plug for his own POS website

                                                classless shit

                                                whats next? we parade around our handicapped children begging for handouts?


                                                or maybe try and sell some insurance
                                                SBR was better when you were banned.
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                                                • DeFactoCrippler
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-30-12
                                                  • 2603

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by MD
                                                  SBR was better when you were banned.
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                                                  • Boxscout
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 12-20-12
                                                    • 222

                                                    #235
                                                    Frankie Gavin over Denton Vassell. $2.00 to win $1.00. I haven't seen a ton of Vassell, but it certainly looks like Gavin should out class him. Vassell can make it ugly, and I'm particularly afraid of him getting away with lots of butts and fouls, but then again, Gavin is the cash cow here. I guess Hatton's behind Vassell, but Gavin's already close to serious money and, more to the point is easily the more proven and skilled man.
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                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-31-13
                                                      • 3953

                                                      #236
                                                      GGG by KO, TKO or DQ @ -433, GGG wins in rounds 4-6 @ +240 & GGG wins in rounds 7-9 @ +280. Spread wisely amongst the three & you should do well.
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                                                      • MD
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-31-12
                                                        • 9728

                                                        #237
                                                        I'm on Gavin, also. Probably. I have some more tape to watch before I lay my bets.

                                                        Golovkin is being overvalued here in my opinion. He's a clear favourite, but 80%+ chance he KO's a guy as tough as Macklin? I don't think so. I think there's value on Not Golovkin 1-6 at -131 and Golovkin decision +670.
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                                                        • Crassus
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-08-12
                                                          • 1538

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by MD
                                                          Golovkin is being overvalued here in my opinion. He's a clear favourite, but 80%+ chance he KO's a guy as tough as Macklin? I don't think so. I think there's value on Not Golovkin 1-6 at -131 and Golovkin decision +670.
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                                                          • Boxscout
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 12-20-12
                                                            • 222

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by MD
                                                            I'm on Gavin, also. Probably. I have some more tape to watch before I lay my bets.
                                                            I couldn't really find much on Vassell. If you can find any besides the random round on youtube and the Welson fight, I'd like to see it.

                                                            Still, I'm high enough on Gavin that I just needed to see some holes in Vassell. He looks like a huge pain in the ass, which prevented me from betting more. But I saw him miss some punches and didn't see anything to indicate he has Gavin's class.

                                                            Brits seem sold on the possibility of a Vassell KO, but his boxrec doesn't explain why. He has 2 KOs since 09 and 1 was the Welson fight which was just Welson quitting, due to some kind of facial damage I think. Never even close to being knocked down.
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                                                            • Crassus
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-08-12
                                                              • 1538

                                                              #240
                                                              0.25U on Golovkin by unanimous decision at +1000!
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                                                              • Boxscout
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-20-12
                                                                • 222

                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by Crassus
                                                                0.25U on Golovkin by unanimous decision at +1000!
                                                                I saw that. Tempting. Gonna see if it hits +1010. BOL.
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                                                                • Crassus
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-08-12
                                                                  • 1538

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Congrats on the win dude and thanks for the overview.
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                                                                  • MD
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-31-12
                                                                    • 9728

                                                                    #243
                                                                    I was going to play Gavin, and Gavin KO as I had no idea why it was in the +400 range. Then I forgot that the fights were on today.

                                                                    The look on my face.
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                                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-31-13
                                                                      • 3953

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                                                      GGG by KO, TKO or DQ @ -433, GGG wins in rounds 4-6 @ +240 & GGG wins in rounds 7-9 @ +280. Spread wisely amongst the three & you should do well.
                                                                      Nearly ALL IN on GGG! 80% GGG by KO, TKO or DQ @ -433, 5% GGG wins in rounds 4-6 @ +240 & 5% GGG wins in rounds 7-9 @ +280! 10% of bank roll saved for UFC 162. After seeing MD's opinion of Golovkin saying that he is over valued and that there is value in GGG by decision @ +670...... The only thing I can say is that after the fight everyone will see the difference between a PRO at the top of his game and a couch potato wannabe. Take some notes kid. School is in session.
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                                                                      • MD
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-31-12
                                                                        • 9728

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                                                        Nearly ALL IN on GGG! 80% GGG by KO, TKO or DQ @ -433, 5% GGG wins in rounds 4-6 @ +240 & 5% GGG wins in rounds 7-9 @ +280! 10% of bank roll saved for UFC 162. After seeing MD's opinion of Golovkin saying that he is over valued and that there is value in GGG by decision @ +670...... The only thing I can say is that after the fight everyone will see the difference between a PRO at the top of his game and a couch potato wannabe. Take some notes kid. School is in session.
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