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  • sideloaded
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-21-10
    • 7561

    #176
    I like
    526 Melissa McMorrow +160
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    • JoshB
      SBR Sharp
      • 03-24-11
      • 354

      #177
      Kell is not a bum for sure, but he just seems very plain to me & with that style is just waiting to get shoe shined by devon. The line may get better though i agree, but i cap devon at about -280 in this one so -175 is still decent imo. Bol.
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      • sideloaded
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-21-10
        • 7561

        #178
        Mike Alvarado +240
        I like the + odds in a fight like this. I had alverado winning until that BS stoppage
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        • sideloaded
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-21-10
          • 7561

          #179
          Originally posted by sideloaded
          I like
          526 Melissa McMorrow +160
          Win
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          • sideloaded
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-21-10
            • 7561

            #180
            Originally posted by sideloaded
            Mike Alvarado +240
            I like the + odds in a fight like this. I had alverado winning until that BS stoppage
            woah damn down to +180
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            • JoshB
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-24-11
              • 354

              #181
              I had him winning the first fight too, but that chin might not hold up well in this fight after all the big shots he took last time out, there are also rumors of him having a bad traning camp so i wouldnt go big on mike.
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              • sideloaded
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-21-10
                • 7561

                #182
                Originally posted by JoshB
                I had him winning the first fight too, but that chin might not hold up well in this fight after all the big shots he took last time out, there are also rumors of him having a bad traning camp so i wouldnt go big on mike.
                really? that sucks. But have you noticed in rios interviews the slurred speech. He really is punch drunk.
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                • sideloaded
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-21-10
                  • 7561

                  #183
                  i checked all the boxing forums were did it say alverado had a bad camp? I believe you because the odds are moving against me but was this posted on the internet?
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                  • DeFactoCrippler
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-30-12
                    • 2603

                    #184
                    Originally posted by sideloaded
                    i checked all the boxing forums were did it say alverado had a bad camp? I believe you because the odds are moving against me but was this posted on the internet?
                    Didnt see this made a thread.

                    The line has held firm at the euros. If the line was moving around its just people betting $100, probably doesn mean much.

                    If Rios dipped below -300 it was probably people just making arb bets. I would have done it myself if I was awake.
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                    • JoshB
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 03-24-11
                      • 354

                      #185
                      i heard it mentioned somewhere..i think a thread on eastside, i believed it cause of that stabbing incident mike was involved in last month.
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                      • Grits n' Gravy
                        Restricted User
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 13024

                        #186
                        Rios is the play. Harder puncher with more stamina in a back and forth bout. Alvarado is game and will give a good account of himself before losing.
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                        • Boxscout
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-20-12
                          • 222

                          #187
                          Well, I like Magdaleno and Martinez to go over 9.5. I got about half of a bet down at -250 and then 5d just dropped all of the lines from the card in China. I guess if they put them back up, bet on it.

                          Mags is very obviously on roids and a good, mobile boxer and excellent athlete. Deserving favorite, though it will be a test. I don't think Martinez can stop him between his skill and enhanced punch resistance. If he does, it's likely to be late. On the other side, Magdaleno has improved his KO rate lately as if by magic. However, he is still not a big finisher and Martinez has never been stopped. I don't think he's ever even been down.

                          We'll say $1.25 to win $0.50, though I'd bet more if I could.
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                          • PunisherIND
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-24-11
                            • 4979

                            #188
                            Originally posted by Boxscout
                            Well, I like Magdaleno and Martinez to go over 9.5. I got about half of a bet down at -250 and then 5d just dropped all of the lines from the card in China. I guess if they put them back up, bet on it.

                            Mags is very obviously on roids and a good, mobile boxer and excellent athlete. Deserving favorite, though it will be a test. I don't think Martinez can stop him between his skill and enhanced punch resistance. If he does, it's likely to be late. On the other side, Magdaleno has improved his KO rate lately as if by magic. However, he is still not a big finisher and Martinez has never been stopped. I don't think he's ever even been down.

                            We'll say $1.25 to win $0.50, though I'd bet more if I could.
                            sportsbook had o10.5 @ -135. had to make a play on that, even though I know nothing about this fight. good luck meng.
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                            • Boxscout
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 12-20-12
                              • 222

                              #189
                              Originally posted by PunisherIND
                              sportsbook had o10.5 @ -135. had to make a play on that, even though I know nothing about this fight. good luck meng.
                              Nice find. With the last loss, plus that win at $9.14.

                              Betting $2.00 on Rico Ramos at -175 tonight to win $1.27.

                              I just don't see Ramos as being washed up. Maybe he's not the most mentally tough guy on the planet, but this fight shouldn't be that big of a test for him. I've only seen a bit of Gonzalez, but Ramos looks to be a better athlete and I think Gonzalez has a lot of trouble getting through Ramos' defense. Ramos certainly has the better background and the higher level of opposition. I say Rico gets back on track here. Nice price too, as overseas books have him at -225 and -200.
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                              • Boxscout
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 12-20-12
                                • 222

                                #190
                                I think my calculations with what that last one paid are a bit off. And now it's moved to -165. So what I'm going to do is just cheat and say I put in all of my bets at -165 and bet 2.00 to win 1.21 because that's the easiest thing to do and I need to go back to sleep.
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                                • Sacrelicious
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-29-12
                                  • 5984

                                  #191
                                  Razor thin after five. I got it 3-2 Rico, but 3-2 Gonzales is entirely reasonable.
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                                  • Sacrelicious
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-29-12
                                    • 5984

                                    #192
                                    Wellll its a miracle of Rico wins here...
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                                    • Boxscout
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-20-12
                                      • 222

                                      #193
                                      Yeah, that was a rough one. Cards were really wide to Oscar anyway, so the KD is less frustrating. I was really confident in this one and almost bet more. Oh well. Mathematically, I'm more likely to have a good weekend at poker now.
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                                      • Boxscout
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-20-12
                                        • 222

                                        #194
                                        Down to $7.14, I believe.

                                        Sprinkling a bit on the over and on Canelo to win, just in case. Main bet is Canelo by decision, at +145. Betting to win $1.00.

                                        I think this will be a competitive fight. Obviously, I think it will go to the cards. Canelo probably doesn't have the closing ability to stop Trout, but, of course, it's possible.

                                        My initial lean was to go with Trout. To me it's about 50/50, so of course that's nice for the dog. Canelo has good reflexes and movement, but an open stance and sometimes seems to not even care if he is hit. Trout could exploit that and then avoid being hit himself. On the other hand, Canelo throws much more impressive punches and has great punch selection and accuracy. He loves to go to the body, where Trout is often open. Canelo doesn't relentlessly move forward and, in fact is comfortable going back. However, there figure to be more moments where he is charging and could be perceived as the aggressor.

                                        The reason I'm taking Canelo is the judging. Particularly in a fight that might be so subjective. We might already assume that, with a young star who could easily generate tens of millions, and who will have crowd support, the judges would favor the guy. Even more so in a finesse vs. power matchup where the star is the latter. I think a lot of what happens in Texas fights is just random incompetence, which would favor Trout (because of the + money). But in this case, one of the judges is Laurence Cole, a shitty ref who has been suspended for unethical conduct. He is the son of the head of the state athletic commission. He has a day job selling insurance to boxing and MMA promoters for their events. No shit. The rooster_eater has judged FIVE fights in the past ten years. All 4-6 rounders. I don't like to go TOO far with the conspiracy type shit, but boxing is boxing. This guy is not even close to being qualified for the assignment, but if anyone on earth knows who is supposed to win here, it's this sack of shit.

                                        So, if we have the possibility that Trout needs to win 8-4 or 9-3 to take a decision, Canelo looks pretty appealing. I wouldn't make this play just on the basis of attempting to read the judges and so forth. As I said, I think it'll be competitive. But that little extra edge nudges me to Canelo.
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                                        • Boxscout
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-20-12
                                          • 222

                                          #195
                                          Correction. Boxrec listings now have Cole reffing the fight, rather than judging it. Stanley Christodoulou, who has tons of experience both judging and reffing, was listed as the ref and is now listed as a judge. Tend to think this is good news for Trout, but news for me. I still expect judges to favor Canelo, but we'll see.
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                                          • Grabaka
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-19-11
                                            • 3216

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by Boxscout
                                            Correction. Boxrec listings now have Cole reffing the fight, rather than judging it. Stanley Christodoulou, who has tons of experience both judging and reffing, was listed as the ref and is now listed as a judge. Tend to think this is good news for Trout, but news for me. I still expect judges to favor Canelo, but we'll see.
                                            Isnt cole father known as a crookey guy? very interesting....share more if you find more....
                                            thank you
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                                            • PunisherIND
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-24-11
                                              • 4979

                                              #197
                                              canelo/trout o11.5 @ -130 on sportsbook
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                                              • flickavic
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 07-23-10
                                                • 181

                                                #198
                                                Canelo at -170 and i absolutely stole Andres Gutierrez @ -280..
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                                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-25-08
                                                  • 7237

                                                  #199
                                                  anyone taking a shot with Steve Cunningham at +450? Tyson Fury is huge but its his 1st fight in the US, i'm taking a shot with Cunningham
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                                                  • Boxscout
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 12-20-12
                                                    • 222

                                                    #200
                                                    +$1.50 = $8.64.

                                                    Fury, probably a poor bet, but I'll take it. Though, on the other hand, if one of the worst case scenarios happens and you still win, maybe that's good. Oh well.

                                                    Danny Garcia +507 to decision Zab. I think people have gotten carried away because of the famous chicken dance. Zab is not really that easy to stop. Even the chicken dance was him trying to get to his feet and continue. He recently went 12 and got a nod against one of the most feared punchers in the sport, in Matthysse. He's looked fit, possibly thanks to PEDs, which aid punch resistance greatly. Training with Pernell might have had some effect on his D. His head is said to be together. In other words, all of the reasons this is thought to be an early stoppage have some holes in them. Plus, matchup wise, Danny's looping shots, esp. the left hook, are not really what gets to Zab. Garcia has shown an improved, straight right that is actually straight, which worries me. But I still like the price. I expect Danny's class to prevail. Plus, it is better for the business of boxing if he wins. A close or controversial decision for him would really be win/win.

                                                    Kind of like the over too and recommended it to someone by PM, but I never actually bet it and the price dropped a lot, so here we are. Might put a little there if it goes back up.

                                                    .5 to win 2.53
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                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-31-13
                                                      • 3953

                                                      #201
                                                      Khan vs Diaz over 6.5 rounds -160. Get it while you can.
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                                                      • Boxscout
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-20-12
                                                        • 222

                                                        #202
                                                        -130 on 5d. What is your thinking? Khan has become more patient and cautious?

                                                        Considering Carlos Molina made it that far easily, might be a good idea. Diaz has been stopped early a couple times unlike Molina, but then Molina was undersized and outclassed. Perhaps Khan just looks to pummel with speed from distance.
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                                                        • MD
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-31-12
                                                          • 9728

                                                          #203
                                                          Appreciate your thoughts as always. You're one of the few who posts consistently thought-out analysis for their picks, and possibly the only one for boxing, and it's always nice to see. I took Garcia by decision earlier, too. I like it a lot. I think it should be closer to +270.
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                                                          • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-31-13
                                                            • 3953

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by Boxscout
                                                            -130 on 5d. What is your thinking? Khan has become more patient and cautious?

                                                            Considering Carlos Molina made it that far easily, might be a good idea. Diaz has been stopped early a couple times unlike Molina, but then Molina was undersized and outclassed. Perhaps Khan just looks to pummel with speed from distance.
                                                            The over 6.5 is now -125. My thinking is that I was impressed with how Diaz dealt with the speed of Shawn Porter. Khan should win. However, I don't see him putting Diaz's lights out before 6.5 rounds, if ever at all.
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                                                            • hougigo
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-01-12
                                                              • 3665

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by Boxscout
                                                              -130 on 5d. What is your thinking? Khan has become more patient and cautious?

                                                              Considering Carlos Molina made it that far easily, might be a good idea. Diaz has been stopped early a couple times unlike Molina, but then Molina was undersized and outclassed. Perhaps Khan just looks to pummel with speed from distance.
                                                              I'm intrigued by it.
                                                              I expect Khan to still be the same old fighter, but have a little more caution in his step. Virgil Hunter might have him slow down a little too because his style of flurry, rest, repeat has gotten him in trouble in the past.
                                                              Also, Khan is the kind of guy who hurts you through an accumulation of punishment. I don't even count the Zab KO because he was trying to bait the ref.
                                                              Took Khan a while to KO the little Molina too.
                                                              I just feel that if it's under, it's because Diaz blew him out.
                                                              Over looks good and 7.5 rounds seems fast enough to make it through.
                                                              Diaz getting a lot of hype now because of the Shawn Porter fight.... IMO, he's still a fighter learning.
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                                                              • Boxscout
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-20-12
                                                                • 222

                                                                #206
                                                                Nice bet on the Khan over there. Somewhat scary with the Khan KD, but he wasn't all that hurt and Khan wasn't ever stopping Diaz early.

                                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                                Appreciate your thoughts as always. You're one of the few who posts consistently thought-out analysis for their picks, and possibly the only one for boxing, and it's always nice to see. I took Garcia by decision earlier, too. I like it a lot. I think it should be closer to +270.
                                                                Thank you, nice to hear.
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                                                                • Ron_Paul_2012
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-31-13
                                                                  • 3953

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Double $ . Khan vs Diaz over 6.5 and Khan to win! Tiny play on Garcia later tonight as well.
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                                                                  • Boxscout
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 12-20-12
                                                                    • 222

                                                                    #208
                                                                    I can't bet it (Thanks Obama!), but outside of the US you can lock up Danny Garcia at + money vs. Khan. I'm not as dismissive of AK as some people are, but that's still nuts. Obviously, you have to be willing to keep the money tied up for a long time, though.
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                                                                    • MD
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-31-12
                                                                      • 9728

                                                                      #209
                                                                      What's the best resource for finding all upcoming (bettable, preferably) boxing matches? I don't follow boxing as much as I used to, but I have some extra time on my hands due to the lack of upcoming UFC events, so I'd like to catch up on it.
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                                                                      • Dwil125
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-08-12
                                                                        • 2048

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Are you betting the mayweather fight this saturday?
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