Mlb 2012

[BiffTFinancial]

nice job biff

Thanks, Dexter. BOL to you tonight!

[2daBank]

Hmmm, well I guess that answers that! Thanks man, sometimes the best play is a pass and you certainly know your Cards.

ive been very hit and miss with them this season compared to years past so take what i say about them with a grain of salt....did nail last nights score on the head over at ctg in stalking Monday Umps thread...i just think francis the kind of soft tosser that if locating will give cards some problems early on, he doesnt walk ppl and hasnt been giving up hrs (i did just see he has bad numbers against righties tho which cards have a bunch of), cards offense while back to putting up big numbers still have lots of lulls being masked by big innings and jacks... id expect Francis to go 5 + allowing 2-3 runs most prob coming at end of outing when pen comes in and allows the inherited runners to score...still dont feel i have a great read on Kelly, ive said from jump that i like his stuff but he has been prone to leaving it a little to much over the plate at times (seems to have gotten better last few but that was against kc and a struggling fish squad), honestly think rox will get some hits but leave guys stranded early, kelly prob right around what i have francis at 5+ innings 2-3 runs....after typing all that it appears ff under is marginal, kinda just gut that thru 5 it like a 3-1 gm and total sits at 5.5 now (rather play 5 w plus money than pay the juice tho)...cant be discounted that it is sweltering here yet again and ball should fly, dont get me wrong i dont think your model off having this over 10 but think majority will come in the later innings with cards pen being used plenty tonight and rox overworked pen almost certainly out there for 3 +.... pass may be the way i end up going as well cause i could easily be way off and it 3-3 after 1 inning, more likely it will look good thru 3-4 innings then one of 2 pitchers will fall apart in the heat.. ..i hope i have a live betting option on this gm..

[Derty D]

Hello BiffTFinancial,

Keep up the great work. Your attitude after a losing day is awesome as your attitude after a winning day! I love that! Your logical almost non-emotional approach is refreshing. When we both lost that heart breaker SD under 8.5 when SD scored 6 times in the top of the 9th, 99% of people would have cussed, screamed and whined. You didn't. Very impressive. It is that approach along with your rationale approach with money management along with a plethora of other variables (since I don't know you) that make you a successful handicapper this season. Keep up the great work.

Today I like your NYY play. I went on a hike this morning with a great friend who visited so I missed the better line. You got NYY-113 and I ended up with NYY-120....hopefully it won't matter!

My best bet today is the CWS-133...



Take care,

Derty D

[blitzburgh]

Not sure if it's been said but Tracy has all col starters on a strict pitch count think its around a ridiculous 75

[2daBank]

Not sure if it's been said but Tracy has all col starters on a strict pitch count think its around a ridiculous 75

yes sir..that why i been fadingg rox or playing over in most their gms the last week, lot of pressure on starters to try and make most of those 75 pitches and pen is getting taxed....not Tracy's fault tho, this upper management decision i believe..

[BiffTFinancial]

ive been very hit and miss with them this season compared to years past so take what i say about them with a grain of salt....did nail last nights score on the head over at ctg in stalking Monday Umps thread...i just think francis the kind of soft tosser that if locating will give cards some problems early on, he doesnt walk ppl and hasnt been giving up hrs (i did just see he has bad numbers against righties tho which cards have a bunch of), cards offense while back to putting up big numbers still have lots of lulls being masked by big innings and jacks... id expect Francis to go 5 + allowing 2-3 runs most prob coming at end of outing when pen comes in and allows the inherited runners to score...still dont feel i have a great read on Kelly, ive said from jump that i like his stuff but he has been prone to leaving it a little to much over the plate at times (seems to have gotten better last few but that was against kc and a struggling fish squad), honestly think rox will get some hits but leave guys stranded early, kelly prob right around what i have francis at 5+ innings 2-3 runs....after typing all that it appears ff under is marginal, kinda just gut that thru 5 it like a 3-1 gm and total sits at 5.5 now (rather play 5 w plus money than pay the juice tho)...cant be discounted that it is sweltering here yet again and ball should fly, dont get me wrong i dont think your model off having this over 10 but think majority will come in the later innings with cards pen being used plenty tonight and rox overworked pen almost certainly out there for 3 +.... pass may be the way i end up going as well cause i could easily be way off and it 3-3 after 1 inning, more likely it will look good thru 3-4 innings then one of 2 pitchers will fall apart in the heat.. ..i hope i have a live betting option on this gm..

thanks, brother, appreciate your taking the time to convey your thoughts. i have no problem laying off a baseball over, and although T Welke still an over guy in my book, he's been on sick under run. i hope that the model is correct, but i don't think that i want to pay to find out.

[2daBank]

thanks, brother, appreciate your taking the time to convey your thoughts. i have no problem laying off a baseball over, and although T Welke still an over guy in my book, he's been on sick under run. i hope that the model is correct, but i don't think that i want to pay to find out.

you know i trust your model, francis just the kind of guy that if locating will have cards getting themselves out..kelly kinda a wild card still...we do know the pens will get plenty of work and neither are very good so even if im correct there a good chance your model has it pegged cause no way would i get involved with gm under knowing we see prob 6 innings combined of these pens...

[BiffTFinancial]

Hello BiffTFinancial,

Keep up the great work. Your attitude after a losing day is awesome as your attitude after a winning day! I love that! Your logical almost non-emotional approach is refreshing. When we both lost that heart breaker SD under 8.5 when SD scored 6 times in the top of the 9th, 99% of people would have cussed, screamed and whined. You didn't. Very impressive. It is that approach along with your rationale approach with money management along with a plethora of other variables (since I don't know you) that make you a successful handicapper this season. Keep up the great work.

Today I like your NYY play. I went on a hike this morning with a great friend who visited so I missed the better line. You got NYY-113 and I ended up with NYY-120....hopefully it won't matter!

My best bet today is the CWS-133...



Take care,

Derty D

thanks a lot, Derty, i appreciate that. for what it's worth, i did throw a little tantrum in my basement after that meltdown by Myers in the top of the 9th, you just didn't see that, haha. i handle losses better than i used to, but they definitely still bother me. i also know that i've been the beneficiary of good fortune a lot this season, certainly more than bad breaks.

i like Good Guys and Sale over Rangers tonight, but feel like i missed the good number there so would probably go -1 and could definitely see that being a one-run game. BOL to you tonight, go Good Guys, go Yanks!

[2daBank]

oak tt ov 3 is worth considering...been playing oaktown ml or tt quite a bit w decent success this last month.. oak has scored at least 3 runs in something like 22 of last 30 gms (take out series at sea, where no one scores and it 22 of 25 i think)...Lester has given up 3 or more in 7 of last 8 starts, until recently oak was scoring more per gm against lhp and has been one of the better offenses since start of june..

did you run numbers on this gm Biff? if not do you have time?

[BiffTFinancial]

oak tt ov 3 is worth considering...been playing oaktown ml or tt quite a bit w decent success this last month.. oak has scored at least 3 runs in something like 22 of last 30 gms (take out series at sea, where no one scores and it 22 of 25 i think)...Lester has given up 3 or more in 7 of last 8 starts, until recently oak was scoring more per gm against lhp and has been one of the better offenses since start of june..

did you run numbers on this gm Biff? if not do you have time?

running em right now. will post back with thoughts.

[1Time!]

Now that the Indians total is down to 9 is that gonna be a play?

[BiffTFinancial]

oak tt ov 3 is worth considering...been playing oaktown ml or tt quite a bit w decent success this last month.. oak has scored at least 3 runs in something like 22 of last 30 gms (take out series at sea, where no one scores and it 22 of 25 i think)...Lester has given up 3 or more in 7 of last 8 starts, until recently oak was scoring more per gm against lhp and has been one of the better offenses since start of june..

did you run numbers on this gm Biff? if not do you have time?

i don't have 3 available to me, unfortunately, only 3.5 +110. it's hard not to like 3, you're correct about both Lester starts and A's recent form. really hard to see A's being held to 2 runs here. if i had to hang a projection on A's, i'd say 3.6-3.85.

[BiffTFinancial]

Now that the Indians total is down to 9 is that gonna be a play?

i was initially going to pass on total because of weather concerns, but the forecast now is better than it was this morning. am going to take another look at that game right now.

[2daBank]

i don't have 3 available to me, unfortunately, only 3.5 +110. it's hard not to like 3, you're correct about both Lester starts and A's recent form. really hard to see A's being held to 2 runs here. if i had to hang a projection on A's, i'd say 3.6-3.85.

BM has oak tt ov 3 -120....went ahead and got down as i normally do when i can get a 3 with them, figure push at worst...appreciate you running it for me brother..

[BiffTFinancial]

BM has oak tt ov 3 -120....went ahead and got down as i normally do when i can get a 3 with them, figure push at worst...appreciate you running it for me brother..

if i had 3 available to me, i'd be on it with you. BOL to you, Bank.

[Madison]

Unders in Pittsburgh were really good to me early in the season. i'll always remember them fondly. if there were an under ump here, i'd be on it, but not with Gerry Davis.

Always appreciate the ump insight as not a strength of mine. Thanks again and BOL as always.

[BiffTFinancial]

Votta in the lineup for the Reds. don't love that for the under, but didn't make a significant adjustment when i capped the game anyway.

[BiffTFinancial]

Always appreciate the ump insight as not a strength of mine. Thanks again and BOL as always.

Davis was a great over ump for last couple of years, but beginning late last year, he's skewed really hard under. i've listened to a few games this season where the announcers have talked about how inconsistent his zone is. totals in his games are no play for me right now. that said, he has been skewing under.

[BiffTFinancial]

Now that the Indians total is down to 9 is that gonna be a play?

i think that i'm going to pass, but Angels/Tribe under 9 is credible as a 1* play. BOL whatever you decide.

also think that i may have found my final play - Cubs/Braves over 9 +100 really has my attention right now.

[Madison]

oak tt ov 3 is worth considering...been playing oaktown ml or tt quite a bit w decent success this last month.. oak has scored at least 3 runs in something like 22 of last 30 gms (take out series at sea, where no one scores and it 22 of 25 i think)...Lester has given up 3 or more in 7 of last 8 starts, until recently oak was scoring more per gm against lhp and has been one of the better offenses since start of june..

did you run numbers on this gm Biff? if not do you have time?

First off Banker thanks for your insightful input. Much appreciated. Lester has been consistently mediocre. The Lester from prior years would occassionally have his cutter flatten for a start here or there and get raked but it's just not been biting like it used to date.

[rumnblack]

I played the Cubs ov. BOL

[pattymayo]

First timer here Biff... love what you've been doing this season.

Throwing a square play out there.. but Pitt looks like a steal again tonight. I faded them yesterday, but they proved me wrong big time. They are killing the ball lately, and I was surprised to see their TT only set at 4. Granted it's juiced, but might as well hop on the train while it's still running.

[BiffTFinancial]

adding

2* Cubs/Braves over 9 (+100)

Tuesday 7.3.2012 updated card
2* Marlins/Brewers over 9 (-107) - WINNER
2* Giants ML (+119)
2* Yankees ML (-113)
2* Cubs/Braves over 9 (+100)
1* Reds/Dodgers under 6' (-110)

BOL to all tonight. heading out with wife for her birthday dinner in little italy (the cleveland one).

[BiffTFinancial]

First timer here Biff... love what you've been doing this season.

Throwing a square play out there.. but Pitt looks like a steal again tonight. I faded them yesterday, but they proved me wrong big time. They are killing the ball lately, and I was surprised to see their TT only set at 4. Granted it's juiced, but might as well hop on the train while it's still running.

thank you, i appreciate that. thanks for stopping by. i lean under on that game, think it's Pirates 4-3 or 4-2. i think that Pirates should get 4, but they might not have to get more to beat Astros. i can certainly see why you like it, but right now, i don't want much to do with a total in a Gerry Davis umpired game. very inconsistent this season and has been skewing under. BOL whatever you decide, i'm out for the night boys.

[1Time!]

i think that i'm going to pass, but Angels/Tribe under 9 is credible as a 1* play. BOL whatever you decide.

also think that i may have found my final play - Cubs/Braves over 9 +100 really has my attention right now.

Have got it at 9.5 & I guess it's moved in a favorable direction so may just let it ride & hope for the best!

[newbottles]

BM has oak tt ov 3 -120....went ahead and got down as i normally do when i can get a 3 with them, figure push at worst...appreciate you running it for me brother..

I took the o3.5 at 5dimes. o3 is great - well played.

[2daBank]

I took the o3.5 at 5dimes. o3 is great - well played.

well lets hope i dont push and you cash with the plus money

[NYyanks14]

quick question been following biff for a few days from a far great work!... how many units if I have Oak TT at 3

[2daBank]

quick question been following biff for a few days from a far great work!... how many units if I have Oak TT at 3

Biff isnt playing oak tt ov, some of us are but he passed..far as how many units? whatever you feel comfortable with is best answer i can give you

[NYyanks14]

ok thanks, lets get it!!!!

[2daBank]

rox/stl ff u 5.5 cashes by a hair on my chinny chin chin...needed that after the suck that was sf and nyy..

maybe i am starting to get my groove back with Cards, that would be swell

[No coincidences]

rox/stl ff u 5.5 cashes by a hair on my chinny chin chin...needed that after the suck that was sf and nyy..

How did that cash? I'm on the Rockies TT over and just scratching my head over here.

[2daBank]

How did that cash? I'm on the Rockies TT over and just scratching my head over here.

if you go back and read my thoughts on this yo would have saw that rox would have tons of baserunners but Kelly would wiggle out of trouble a lot thru the 1st 5...i wouldnt worry bro, cards pen will surely give up another run or 3 at some point..

[1Time!]

anyone have any idea on the rain delay in the Indians game? Any chance of it being called so i get my money back on the total?!

[2daBank]

sorry 1time, think it starting back up...