on3's MLB 2012 Opening Game system thread 194-8 last year +60 units

[aznknightt]

Filtered Games 2011 results:

Game 1: 31-25
Game 2: 17-8
Game 3: 8-0

56-0 (might have missed a game or two)

Notes about filtered games only* Yankees and Rangers covered most of game 1's. Red Sox lost almost all their game 1's. When line barely opens above -145 and then drops below -145 (no play), away team usually wins

[thelimit0310]

There was a loss on the filtered games last year.

Chicago Cubs 5/30 against Houston the line on the first game was -151 with an over/under of 13.

[Gndias]

damn friday the 13....
oh and seattle is never a strong play

[Douchebag50]

On3 stated for the first couple of weeks we will be playing ML. An alternative to that would be to take the -1 line if you can get it to keep it below -180.

Thanks JM, must have missed that one.

[dlunc3]

There was a loss on the filtered games last year.

Chicago Cubs 5/30 against Houston the line on the first game was -151 with an over/under of 13.

System record 78-2*
*BOS (C) vs. tampa bay bet still pending

units: +37

Game 1 win = 46
Game 2 win = 25
Game 3 win = 7

5/30

#82 -- san diego @ ATL -180 (A) o/u 7
#83 -- minnesota @ DET -145 (A) o/u 8.5
#84 -- chi white sox @ BOS -189 (A) o/u 8

Labby Line

22-22-14-14
x-x-x-13
13-13-13-13

all to win 32

if STL gets above -145, play to win 26

That was on3s post on 5/30 last season. He had chose not to play this houston series. They only opened up at -130 on 5dimes, but it does look like it got brought it up to -148 later in the day. Guess it depends if you are looking at closing or opening lines.

[Nino7]

could anyone post the labby lines and the amounts to bet cuze im completly lost with the labby thing.
thx.

[dlunc3]

could anyone post the labby lines and the amounts to bet cuze im completly lost with the labby thing.
thx.

on3 will post them before gametime

[Douchebag50]

on3 will post them before gametime

One of the games starts in 40 min would be nice to get the amount to play for that one

[Nino7]

sigh could anyone post it anyways?

[CrazyCarl]

sigh could anyone post it anyways?

Well, JM posted the plays last night and they seem to be accurate, but will be interesting to see what on3 does with his labby lines. I already moved mine around quite a bit but I'm curious how the 'strongest plays' are determined which JM was already asking earlier on but he got ignored.

If on3 doesn't post soon you could probably play STL as one of your bigger plays as it's the only game starting at 1, or go the platinuminvesting guy's route and play all of your games at the largest labby line and then adjust them at the end of the day.

But then the labby line is up to you.

[Nino7]

i dont understand labby lines so unless its posted i dunno what to bet

[on3]

4-4 on the day, time to clear these guys up.

System record 11-0-0; 4-0-0
Units +7.5
1 unit = $20

4/14

#9 -- chicago @ STL -185 (B)
#11 -- ny mets @ PHI -155 (B)
#13 -- balt @ TOR -159 (B)
#14 -- oakland @ SEA -103 (B)

Game 1 win = 9-6; 3-1
Game 2 win = 2-0; 1-0
Game 3 win = 0-0; 0-0

Labby Line (regular)

17-26-38-19
17-16-19-23
10-10-10-10

shuffle to balance out

21-22-23-22
21-21-24-21
10-10-10-10

Labby Line (filter)

x-10-10-x

STL to win 43
PHI to win 45
TOR to win 42
SEA to win 45

[sstrunks52005]

i just added my losses together and spread it over 4 lines. added a 1/4 of a unit to the cardinals game

[swordsandtequila]

No offense intended to anyone, but a few points:

If on3 doesn't post soon you could probably play STL as one of your bigger plays as it's the only game starting at 1, or go the platinuminvesting guy's route and play all of your games at the largest labby line

There is no "strongest play" when running a labby line (properly, anyway). Wager size is determined by whichever line you're on (all plays today should be based on line 2, i.e. game 2). You can customize, or alter as you will, but why would you do that if you don't even understand the basic premise?

As stated, plays today are based on line 2. The size of your bets are dependent on the unit size you started with. You shouldn't need On3 to post amounts to place your bets.

You don't make your plays based on the "largest labby line". You make them based on the series and game being played. The 4 games lost yesterday were game 1 of the series and should have been bet on line 1. Today is game 2, so use line 2. Clearing a line because of wins doesn't mean you go to line 2 for next bet, just start a new line with your base unit size.

Once again, no offense, but some of you are making this way more complicated than it is. Run the basic labby spelled out in the links and check On3's posts for qualifying games. If this eludes you, you probably should sit out awhile, read the links, and start fresh when understand; otherwise you risk blowing your bankroll.

[J.M. Disciple]

On3 is not playing all game 2s on line two though, so people are referring to his post to see which lines he is placing his games on. As you can see from today's post he is using line 1 and 2 and clearing his biggest lines.

STL = $43 (line 1)
Phi = $45 (line 1)
TOR = $42 (line 2)
Sea = $45 (line 2)

Keep note of which line each game is on, so if you do not understand, you will be able to see on his next official post how each number got to the line.

[J.M. Disciple]

aznknightt thanks for back testing the Filtered games from last year even though you missed a few. 2pts rewarded. I actually got up a little early this morning to do this myself and even found last years thread.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-betting/1012179-opening-game-home-favorite-chase-246-7-last-year-p33.html

You already had the work done, so saved me some time.

Thanks
JMD

[swordsandtequila]

On3 is not playing all game 2s on line two though, so people are referring to his post to see which lines he is placing his games on. As you can see from today's post he is using line 1 and 2 and clearing his biggest lines.

STL = $43 (line 1)
Phi = $45 (line 1)
TOR = $42 (line 2)
Sea = $45 (line 2)

Keep note of which line each game is on, so if you do not understand, you will be able to see on his next official post how each number got to the line.

JM you understand that, but it's obvious from some of the posts/questions that some are completely in the dark. Post was geared towards them. Trying to run before learning how to walk. They should keep it simple and run a basic labby; if they have the bankroll I would suggest doing a 1 line, can't get any simpler than that.

There's more than enough info posted, so let's make some !

[AwesomeGuy]

4-4 on the day, time to clear these guys up.

System record 11-0-0; 4-0-0
Units +7.5
1 unit = $20

4/14

#9 -- chicago @ STL -185 (B)
#11 -- ny mets @ PHI -155 (B)
#13 -- balt @ TOR -159 (B)
#14 -- oakland @ SEA -103 (B)

Game 1 win = 9-6; 3-1
Game 2 win = 2-0; 1-0
Game 3 win = 0-0; 0-0

Labby Line (regular)

17-26-38-19
17-16-19-23
10-10-10-10

shuffle to balance out

21-22-23-22
21-21-24-21
10-10-10-10

Labby Line (filter)

x-10-10-x

STL to win 43
PHI to win 45
TOR to win 42
SEA to win 45

Now I'm really confused. I tried playing around with the numbers in multiple ways but still couldn't get them to the labby lines in on3's latest post.

Yesterday's games looked like this:

#9 -- chicago @ STL -185 (A) -- o/u 7
#10 -- pittsburgh @ SF -171 (A) -- o/u 6.5
#11 -- ny mets @ PHI -170 (A) -- o/u 6/5
#12 -- houston @ MIA -200 (A) -- o/u 7.5
#13 -- balt @ TOR -188 (A) -- o/u 8.5
#14 -- oakland @ SEA -160 (A) -- o/u 6.5

Labby Line (regular)

10-10-15-15
10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

Labby Line (filter)

10-10-20-10 (new)

STL to win 25
SF to win 25
PHI to win 20
MIA to win 20
TOR to win 20
SEA to win 20

So On3 bet:
$38.5 on STL to win $25
$39.5 on SF to $25
$31.8 on PHI to win $20
$30 on MIA to win $20
$30.6 on TOR to win $20
$32.5 on SEA to win $20

EDITED BECAUSE ABOVE MATH WAS WRONG:

$46.30 on STL to win $25
$43.10 on SF to $25
$33.90 on PHI to win $20
$30 on MIA to win $20
$37.74 on TOR to win $20
$31.75 on SEA to win $20
$30 on NYY to win $20

(EDITED FOR A 3RD TIME TO INCLUDE YANKEES)



That's a net loss of $88.5 EDITED: $104.68, EDITED 3RD TIME: $85.00 How did he get the new labby lines of:

Labby Line (regular)

17-26-38-19
17-16-19-23
10-10-10-10

shuffle to balance out

21-22-23-22
21-21-24-21
10-10-10-10

Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'm sure others are confused as well.

[Gndias]

taking phillies...what do you guys think?

[swordsandtequila]

Now I'm really confused. I tried playing around with the numbers in multiple ways but still couldn't get them to the labby lines in on3's latest post.

That's a net loss of $88.5. How did he get the new labby lines of:

Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'm sure others are confused as well.

You don't take a "net loss". You strike/cross out numbers for your wins, then add your losses back in. Based on your bets, losses for the day total $133.40.

Not being a douche, but read/study the platinum investing link (if you have, read it again). It's posted all over this thread.

[on3]

Any help will be greatly appreciated. I'm sure others are confused as well.

yesterday started with $90 on lines 1 and 2 total. we won $60 (SF, MIA, NYY), lost roughly $145, net of -$85. we take the $90 add the $85 lost and now we have $175 on lines 1 and 2.

how is this confusing?

[CrazyCarl]

No offense intended to anyone, but a few points:




There is no "strongest play" when running a labby line (properly, anyway). Wager size is determined by whichever line you're on (all plays today should be based on line 2, i.e. game 2). You can customize, or alter as you will, but why would you do that if you don't even understand the basic premise?

As stated, plays today are based on line 2. The size of your bets are dependent on the unit size you started with. You shouldn't need On3 to post amounts to place your bets.

You don't make your plays based on the "largest labby line". You make them based on the series and game being played. The 4 games lost yesterday were game 1 of the series and should have been bet on line 1. Today is game 2, so use line 2. Clearing a line because of wins doesn't mean you go to line 2 for next bet, just start a new line with your base unit size.

Once again, no offense, but some of you are making this way more complicated than it is. Run the basic labby spelled out in the links and check On3's posts for qualifying games. If this eludes you, you probably should sit out awhile, read the links, and start fresh when understand; otherwise you risk blowing your bankroll.

Funny, didn't hear you saying this stuff when we were all playing 2 games at $25 yesterday and 4 at $20. Even though they were all on line 1.

There's lots of ways to run the labby, and just because you have found a way that works for you doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it.. (oh but no offense).

I even offered your alternative, basically, when talking about playing all the plays the same. Whether or not you average your lines out prior to doing this is a personal choice, not a statistical fact or overcomplicating things.

[Nino7]

lol it really is..anyone got a link for Cards?

[swordsandtequila]

I wasn't being a "dick" about it, hence the phrase "no offense". I haven't wavered from one thing I've posted. I've stipulated it doesn't matter how you add your losses, that's up to the individual, but it's obvious that some aren't grasping this by the same questions over and over. It's one thing to punch numbers into a calculator, it's another to know how to add. I don't give two shits how people run their lines, just trying to help those who need it. Feel free to take up the mantle.

[CrazyCarl]

Yeah, I saw your comment about whether or not you meant offense. I also added a similar comment if you didn't notice.

[swordsandtequila]

The difference was I meant it. If I wanted to offend you, I would. Let it go.

[J.M. Disciple]

Funny, didn't hear you saying this stuff when we were all playing 2 games at $25 yesterday and 4 at $20. Even though they were all on line 1.

There's lots of ways to run the labby, and just because you have found a way that works for you doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it.. (oh but no offense).

I even offered your alternative, basically, when talking about playing all the plays the same. Whether or not you average your lines out prior to doing this is a personal choice, not a statistical fact or overcomplicating things.

I do not think he was being a dick about it. The method he laid out is a little different then On3, but it keeps it a little more simple.

Line 1 = A
Line 2 = B
line 3 = C

Adds your losses of game 1 to line 1 and average out your line.
If you have more games then #s on your line, then add an additional line for that game.

I actually like the way he laid it out compared to on3s method. on3 reduces the risk some by spreading it out, but i could see how it could be a little confusing to new labbiers.

Lets go 4-0 today and clear the lines Then we will have fresh lines for Monday and maybe on3 can give a further break down from there on.

[CrazyCarl]

Seemed passive-aggressive to me, but the internet often fails at conveying tone. Sorry if I actually did get it wrong.

Anyhow, go Cards..

And second that comment about the link. Seems like they all went down during the delay.

[AwesomeGuy]

yesterday started with $90 on lines 1 and 2 total. we won $60 (SF, MIA, NYY), lost roughly $145, net of -$85. we take the $90 add the $85 lost and now we have $175 on lines 1 and 2.

how is this confusing?

Hey,

Ok my math was totally off the first time, then I completed left out the yankees so it messed up the net loss. Ok so what you said makes sense when you're dividing the loss of $85 between the first two lines. However, I don't understand how you got this initially:

Labby Line (regular)

17-26-38-19
17-16-19-23
10-10-10-10

I know it all works out to be the same in the end after you average out the 4 numbers on each line but just for my knowledge, I'd like to know how you got those numbers posted above.

Thanks!

(And I have read that labby investment site multiple times)

[Gndias]

thank you phillies for ruining my day

[TripleDDD]

Philly is terrible

[Gndias]

the big question is.....will they win tomorrow?

[imzdeals]

phillies offense has been terrible so far

[gofightingirish]

cards winner

nice win for us............philly fukkin sux.....toronto down 1.....gotta clear these chases.....gonna be an interesting day!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[dlunc3]

toronto blows 8th inning leads two days in a row