Yeh kinda got lucky with the Yanks ML tonight they've been playing horrible as of late. Tough this year with JM MLB (which is all I'm following with an aggressive labby) because there haven't been as many plays, but the key to following any system is sticking to the system and not deviating from the mean. BTW good stuff with your system Wallco keep it up kid!
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Decided this year since I had a big enough bankroll ($5,000) from NBA (Chase 110 and JM) that I'd try just JM this year in an aggressive labby so if JM MLB does ever get to a C bet I won't have to risk everything I had like the previous 2 years. The past 2 years I did JM MLB I would get to a point where I would be risking everything and he would have a loss or two during the year so I got no where (Again this is a bankroll of like say 1,000), but at the same time it's not like I would be making any thing even if I did a labby. The one thing I've learned is you need a decent sized bankroll to start with. Not 200 not 800, not 2000, but at least 5 to 10 grand. Just my opinion, but it seems to be the case at least for me. It's just like ANYTHING else in this world. It takes money to make money
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Cards and phillies tie in the 9th. This has been a good game to watch. Great pitching on both sides.Comment -
Yea, ive learned that lesson too many times... Im down to $50 units with a 12k bankroll... hopefully i can keep things under control.. started the year with $200 units and got uncomfortable yet again pretty quick... so hopefully down to $50 will work out.. we'll see though... a nice JM season and wallcos continued success could play a big part! Hopefully we can close out these few series the next few daysDecided this year since I had a big enough bankroll ($5,000) from NBA (Chase 110 and JM) that I'd try just JM this year in an aggressive labby so if JM MLB does ever get to a C bet I won't have to risk everything I had like the previous 2 years. The past 2 years I did JM MLB I would get to a point where I would be risking everything and he would have a loss or two during the year so I got no where (Again this is a bankroll of like say 1,000), but at the same time it's not like I would be making any thing even if I did a labby. The one thing I've learned is you need a decent sized bankroll to start with. Not 200 not 800, not 2000, but at least 5 to 10 grand. Just my opinion, but it seems to be the case at least for me. It's just like ANYTHING else in this world. It takes money to make money
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dlunc3 good stuff man. Again you can always just play 1 system, but increase your wager size. That's exactly what I'm doing with JM. I'm up close to $1,000 and he's only had about 4-5 system plays.Comment -
baez is in... hes garbage... should at least cover the ml here for stl backers..Comment -
Does two game sweeps count for JM plays, or does it have to be at least 3?Comment -
Wallco for JM 2-game sweeps carry over to the next 3 game series. So for example say Tampa DID win today and sweeped the 2 game set then they would have to sweep the next 3-game series in order for it to be a play on the Yanks the NEXT NEXT series.Comment -
dlunc it's tough man. Had to go through that during the NBA season was kinda unsure about which systems to follow and such, but this is how I see it. If you have say a 1,000-2,000 bankroll then you play a few different systems for small amounts by either labbying or whichever way you want and slowly increase it. If you start with a 5,000 or 10,000 or say even 20,000 bankroll then you follow one system for higher risk amounts. Just my opinion.Comment -
Yea no doubt, I got suckered back in to multiple systems.. I made a lot of money with strictly JM in 08 and 09.. then last summer started a few different systems and saw a 40k roll dwindle away and disappear. So this year as hard as it is, just starting at the bottom again and trying to grind back up.. we'll see how it goes. Not an easy business to be in as im sure you know.. I try to remember that its slow and steady, not get rich quick. BOL this season, and good ml win on the Cards everyone!Comment -
Great conversation you guys as I too am in a similar boat...i've gone back and forth with 1-2 systems or more. Currently I'm running (gulp) 6 systems on aggressive labby lines for $40/unit ($12k roll). It's probably too many but it's hard to say what systems will have a lot of plays (JM) or maybe not have a strong year...so I decided to spread it out. Fingers crossed I made the right call! A couple of the systems I start on the B bet and only run two lines so that cuts down on plays.Comment -
What I have done in the past to be profitable is have multiple sportsbook accounts opened at several books using each book only for specific plays from that system. In another words I will NOT use one book and mix plays from JM, Wallco, etc. I have 1 book only for JM plays, 1 book only for Wallco plays, 1 book for Double Play system, etc. This way you can really keep track of each system and how they perform.Comment -
So if I had a 12k roll, I would spread 3k in 4 different accounts and play each system for each account only. And not all different system plays in 1 account using the 12k.Comment -
BigBlue that's exactly what I did during the NBA season. Had one system for one sportsbook. It just makes sense doing it that way and it helped a lot to keep track of things. Now that I have a bigger bankroll though I'm increasing my wager size and following only one system, but for those that are running multiple systems it makes perfect sense to do it that way.Comment -
Keep track of multiple systems on spreadsheets, I would use the multiple sportsbooks to find the best line on each play, not keep track of them. That system is good if lines on all books are exactly the same, otherwise you could be leaving money on the table in a lot of games, or even worse, costing yourself more when you lose.Comment -
I have stripped down my systems as well...
Shut Out and Crusher were not performing and system integrity I just flat out did not like,
def playing JM and Wallco, I like Chilidog`s picks and now playing DaBas 1st inning.
I still follow opening game favorites, but might drop that too soon, see how it performs.
DaBa`s 1st inning is great because they are all + bets, so when doing a labby, they clear easier as the dog is always played !!
I get 150 and even 170 at betus almost every night, so loving it !!!
But yeah, I too am now playing four systems actively, wich is a lot less then what I begun with !!Comment -
Now looking for the + money bets to start coming through. Thanks Wallco!!
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I`ll do better !!!
When I said Chilidog, I meant his thread wich hosts Hagball`s picks wich I tail !!
So here we go again
MY SYSTEMS ( doing a labby with these, reshuffling the lines everyday to make bets equal 5-5-5-5 with two losses 5-5-5-5-10-10
now add up and divide we get my new line 8-8-8-8-8 )
JM MLB
Wallco`s MLB PLUS
Hagball`s picks http://forum.sbrforum.com/sports-pro...ystem-p75.html
Opening game favorites ( a lotta action, great labby explanation, and occasionally 5-0 nights. very stressing for the bankroll when hits a losing streak, so for no following, but thinking this over )
DaBa`s 1st Inning dogs ( a new love !! all dogs, so great value, don`t need as many winners, but still hitting hard)
You can find me on all these threads talking like I even know something, but just sharing the love !!
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As for the shut out system. i think it performs just fine .. it obviously is a system with a LOT of plays, so you HAVE to use a labby. It's a chase system, but if you keep doubling your betsizes at the B, C, D, etc. bet, then you will go broke for sure with this system.
I'm making money with it so I guess it can't perform that badly
.. but I've learned a lot about labby- and bankroll-management in the last couple of weeeks. That's probably the most complicated part about the Shut Out system..
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Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 57-1
System profit/loss: +67.72 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +47.45 units (42-1) (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-7.00 units)
(5/17/11) St. Louis (M/L) (B) – Win
(5/17/11) St. Louis (-1½) (B) – Loss
(5/17/11) Tampa Bay (-1½) (B) – Loss
(A) 32-29
(B) 12-16
(C) 8-6
(D) 5-1
Games for (5/18/11):
Detroit (M/L) @ Boston (B) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
Houston @ St Louis (-1½) (C) *Official* (8:15 pm EDT)
N.Y. Yankees (-1½) @ Baltimore (C) (7:05 pm EDT)
Atlanta @ Arizona (M/L) (A) (9:40 pm EDT)
Colorado @ Philadelphia (M/L) (A) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
Colorado @ Philadelphia (-1½) (A) *Official) (7:05 pm EDT)
Tampa Bay @ Toronto (M/L) (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
PLEASE READ THE NEXT POST BEFORE ASKING ANY QUESTIONS. But do not skip over the next paragraph to do so. Thanks.
** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.Comment -
The first three plays are the continuation of the three current open series:
Detroit/Boston (B) is the continuation of Baltimore/Boston
Houston/St. Louis (C) is the continuation of Philadelphia/St. Louis
N.Y. Yankees/Baltimore (C) is the continuation of N.Y. Yankees/Tampa Bay
The last four plays are all new series, thus they are listed with an (A)
I’m sure someone will be asking soon and often about this, even though I have directed them here in my previous post, to where all plays are described in detail. Just refer them to this post when they ask and save yourself the aggrevation.
The over/under for people asking what plays are what, even after they become official, is 6, I am taking action on this if anyone is interested. Lol.
Over 6 (-350)
Under 6 (+270)Comment -
lol @ the over/under action everything crystal clear, no one can possible misunderstand something so easy to follow...... !
Thanks for the update Wallco - GL all, lets get those C bets tonight!Comment -
Hey Wallco, I think stevex explained it earlier but it also is a continuation of a series. When I last posted the JM update I mentioned there were some series continuing with these 2 game sets and KAN was one of them. If they lost both games to CLE they would be a play. That happened and they meet again on 7/29. COL was in the same situaution when they started up with SFO but they won both games so now that series starts to go the other way but is not a play yet. Lastly KAN starts another 2 game set today against TEX and it's a continuation of a sweep. If they lose these next 2 games then they will become a system play. I will update the JM page in a little bit. Hope this helps.Comment -
It does, thanks. The one thing I didn't understand when stevex explained it, he said if a team won the two games now, they wouldn't be a play next time, but we had to monitor that series and if they swept again, then the next time they would be a play. Well then, why would this series matter at all then, if they sweep the next one they would be a play in the series after that regarless of what happened in this past series, unless of course, the next series is also a two game set, which maybe is what he meant. If it is a three game series, then yesterday's sweeps or non sweeps wouldn't affect that at all, would it? Hope I didn't confuse you, I think I confused me.Comment -
The over play is juiced that high! I will take the under please. JK. lol. Good luck!Comment
its a tough call.. i used to do JM only and did very well.. might be the smart way to go 
