John Morrison 2011 MLB

[IceBet]

which are the official plays for today?

It blows me away that Wallco & Hagball spoon feeds us but still some cannot bother to read a page a day to get even that.

IceBet

[alkmtz]

jajaja, right thank you, is just because yesterday they were more, sorry

[Wallco99]

which are the official plays for today?

Yes, the square root of 64 is 8, why do you ask?

[clamchowder]

which are the official plays for today?

You read his plays for today but didn't bother to read the rules below the plays?

[BigOrangeBrother]

[quote=Wallco99;10022903]Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 5/17/11
2011 System to date: 56-1
System profit/loss: +66.72 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +46.45 units (41-1) (fin. series)
Current open series: 4 (-4.45 units)


Baltimore @ Boston (M/L) (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
Philadelphia @ St Louis (M/L) (B) *Official* (8:15 pm EDT)
Philadelphia @ St Louis (-1½) (B) *Official* (8:15 pm EDT)
N.Y. Yankees @ Tampa Bay (-1½) (B) *Official* (6:40 pm EDT)


This is probably a dumb question, but here goes. I know Tampa Bay ML (A) was a winner last night under the system. But, if you are going to play Tampa Bay -1.5 (B) today why would you not also play the ML again today? Just wondering.

[mikey360]

That is crazy! I would have placed those as two separate bets to make it easier when I look back for tracking to know if it was A, B, C or D bet. In fact I did with Bet365. So if you change your mind on the amount you bet and want to add more they would consider this an issue?

I use Pinnacle heavily but may have to consider this in the future.

IceBet

The thing is pinny is regarded as just about the best book there is to use, this is very odd coming from them, I'm interested to see what they decide to do on this.

I use pinny more than any other book and have many times made multiple plays on the same team throughout the day, adding a bit more here and there and have never had a problem, so I want to know what the reason is they pushed those bets.

[lawalahmed]

Alright, here is my final backtest results. I still plan on doing the 2004 season, but I think honest opinions from all of you can probably be derived from my data. There is a guy purchasing the rights from me, so he believes it can be a money maker even with the horrid 2006 season. I told him I will still be posting plays on here for a while as part of our deal. So it looks like the two months of work will pay off after all. I am still working on a few small bugs. Since 2005, including the few games that have been played in 2011, the system has amassed a profit of +551 units. This is an annual profit of 86 units, with 2011 currently at @ +20 units. Just turn your head when you get to 2006. I think all stock market results were similar that year also. I will post the (A) (B) (C) (D) when I tally them up.

2011: + 20 units (15-0) (No open series as of yesterday, 5 (A) bet plays for today).
2010: +151 units
2009: +174 units
2008: +201 units
2007: + 78 units
2006: -147 units
2005: + 74 units

Let me know what you think. There are five plays for today, if people want them posted I will do it closer to game times. Many times, our selections are based on certain teams, and other times, they are based on whoever is the dog or favorite in certain games. Some of our plays today fall into the bet the favorite category, and the lines on the game are close. The actual favorite could change by game time. I am working on a posting system so you will know which games these are, and you should wait until game time to put in your bets on some of them. This is to assure we are betting the right team. System wins and losses will be based on final lines at ScoresandOdds.com, and whoever they have listed as favorites or dogs will be what we go by, even if our personal books have it differently. If both teams are -105 and -105, there is certain bet criteria for this game, and I will address thet when it comes up. There may be a situation wher ScoresandOdds.com has a team listed as a favorite and your book has them listed as dog. If this is the case and the bet for the day is the favorite (-1 1/2) runs (based on scoresandodds favorite) then your play that day would be betting the dog with the alternate run line of -1 1/2, since they would be getting +1 1/2 with your book as the dog. This is to try to get the highest return on our money. I will tell you from my backtesting, the majority of the time we bet the favorite (S/U), they win on (A) or (B). However, some bets do go to (D), and yes, some lose. These are expensive, but there are never a lot per year. When betting the dogs and the Favorite (-1 1/2), a lot more bets go to (C) and (D), but this is really what we want. It may sound ridiculous, but a +160 team hitting on an 8 unit (D) bet pays a hell of a lot more than than a 1 unit (A) bet win. There are more losses in these categories, but the rewards are much higher and profit recovery is a lot quicker, and the max loss on a four game (+ money) chase is 15 units (almost all the time). This is some high paced action, with chance to lose money in large chunks. But the amount of action can make up for that quickly. I will say, if you are that player that will bitch and scream and start popping Xanax everytime there is a loss, DO NOT PLAY THIS SYSTEM, I do not want to hear it. There is risk, like anything else. and anyone who gets on the net and starts guaranteeing winning seasons is full of s##t. This is for real players only. I promise you, there will be losses, and some at the same time. This is like stock market wagering, there will be your bad days, and some cases bad years, but over the long haul, it's pretty damn good. I just need a good name for it, open for suggestions.

Hey Walcco, i'm talking about your backtested results...
May be we are expecting another fabulous season, profit above +160 units.... E.g 2008 and 2009...
Hope you get my messenge.....

[Wallco99]

[QUOTE=BigOrangeBrother;10024363]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 5/17/11
2011 System to date: 56-1
System profit/loss: +66.72 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +46.45 units (41-1) (fin. series)
Current open series: 4 (-4.45 units)


Baltimore @ Boston (M/L) (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
Philadelphia @ St Louis (M/L) (B) *Official* (8:15 pm EDT)
Philadelphia @ St Louis (-1½) (B) *Official* (8:15 pm EDT)
N.Y. Yankees @ Tampa Bay (-1½) (B) *Official* (6:40 pm EDT)


This is probably a dumb question, but here goes. I know Tampa Bay ML (A) was a winner last night under the system. But, if you are going to play Tampa Bay -1.5 (B) today why would you not also play the ML again today? Just wondering.

Because if the run line series loses, it will only cost 15 units. The M/L has already won, If the M/L bet doesn't hit again, the loss will be huge. There are several seasons when the fav. M/L only lost once, and several cases, 0 times. Those same years, the r/l bets had losses, usually 5 or 6. Since we don't know what series this will happen in, why take the chance.
Losses occur:
1. Most frequently in M/L bets on dogs
2. Next most frequently on (-1 1/2) run line bets
3. On occasion, M/L on favorite bets.

I play the M/L fav bets as though we are going to win them, and assume that the +money bets will lose. There is no backtesting to prove that the M/L favorite bet wins more than once in a series, since we already got that win, series is over.

If you play them that way, here is what would have happened the last two years:

2010
M/L favorites were 82-0 (+82 units)
(-1 1/2) plays were 73-4 (+74 units)

Had you played out the favorites past their first win (when R/L lost):
M/L favorites would be 83-2 (+63 units) This would be less.

2009
M/L favorites were 97-1 (+72 units)
(-1 1/2) plays were 88-3 (+91 units)

Had you played out the favorites past their first win (when R/L lost):
M/L favorites would be 97-2 (+61 units) This would be less.

[teecee]

even if the system only pays out the avg amount of units (88.5) this season, the guy who wagers 50/game is netting nearly 4500 dollars, if my math is correct. well, 68.5, since we missed some of the series, but, winning nearly $3500 in a season is nothing at which to sneeze. i mean, shit, all you have to do is click a few boxes to make that kind of money. i'm a very small bettor, so i won't make nearly as much as you all, but a few hundred bucks is worth it in my opinion. anything above 90 units is just icing on the cake.

[Wallco99]

Hey Walcco, i'm talking about your backtested results...
May be we are expecting another fabulous season, profit above +160 units.... E.g 2008 and 2009...
Hope you get my messenge.....

I agree with you 100%, don't get me wrong. I just can't say that will happen again, only that it has in the past. I don't know if this helps or hurts, but we are ahead of last year's pace at this point. However, a loss can happen at any time to change those figures. I have to repost that backtest that you quoted here, the results are slightly different than these now that I have had time to accurately add them up, actually they're better I think. I will get to that this week.

[DreJay25]

Ok, I frequent this site, and I have never seen a system this successful, but I will be quite frank when I say I am still confused as all hell as how to bet it. I have gone back and read through and everything, and I don't say this with the intention of being mocked, but it all honesty I am confused. Very confused.... Would someone PM me with a little help?? That would be astounding... Thank you in advance...

Dre

[GoGooners]

hey wallco, just wondering if boston is a near game-time decision? I'm deciding if I should catch some sleep first. definitely not rushing you though. thanks for your great work

[teecee]

Ok, I frequent this site, and I have never seen a system this successful, but I will be quite frank when I say I am still confused as all hell as how to bet it. I have gone back and read through and everything, and I don't say this with the intention of being mocked, but it all honesty I am confused. Very confused.... Would someone PM me with a little help?? That would be astounding... Thank you in advance...

Dre

it is a chase system. are you familiar with chase systems? the only thing you really need to do, to play this particular system, is wager on the blue teams that are followed by the word "official." it is really, very simple.

[Fede_Gu]

Problem with Pinnacle resolved.

[oklahoma]

drejay, familiarize yourself with how a chase system works eg. A,B,C,D bets. and bet the plays that wallco says are official. pretty much it, very simple though some people are overthinking it.

[Wallco99]

hey wallco, just wondering if boston is a near game-time decision? I'm deciding if I should catch some sleep first. definitely not rushing you though. thanks for your great work

5:00. It will be up then.

[WINNERS ONLY]

How come one post has baltimore as the play and another has boston as the play. Which is the play?

[teecee]

hey wallco, just wondering if boston is a near game-time decision? I'm deciding if I should catch some sleep first. definitely not rushing you though. thanks for your great work

get some sleep, bud. game does not start until 7:05 eastern. nearly 5 hours. line probably won't be much different @ 6:30.

[GoGooners]

5:00. It will be up then.

get some sleep, bud. game does not start until 7:05 eastern. nearly 5 hours. line probably won't be much different @ 6:30.

thanks guys!

[GoGooners]

How come one post has baltimore as the play and another has boston as the play. Which is the play?

The play might change unless it turns *OFFICIAL*. just wait for the official play to be posted by wallco later before placing the bet.

[GoGooners]

Problem with Pinnacle resolved.

hey Fede, I was thinking of getting a Pinnacle a/c as a backup for the alternate lines. would you mind sharing with us what was the issue there?

[Franchise19]

The St.Louis match looks good for tonight since Oswalt is back from the disabled list and he's on limited pitch count for about 60-65 pitches. Should give us strong hope with Garcia at the mound for St.Louis

[Fede_Gu]

hey Fede, I was thinking of getting a Pinnacle a/c as a backup for the alternate lines. would you mind sharing with us what was the issue there?

Unfortunately I have no explanation from the Customer Office, only my money.

I think there was a general error on some wagers, but they regraded every wager as "win", in my case. 7/8 hours to resolve it and a decent email updating from their CC. Not really bad at all.

[soldier1047]

Unfortunately I have no explanation from the Customer Office, only my money.

I think there was a general error on some wagers, but they regraded every wager as "win", in my case. 7/8 hours to resolve it and a decent email updating from their CC. Not really bad at all.

That is still pretty fast customer service!

[wunwun]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 56-1
System profit/loss: +66.72 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +46.45 units (41-1) (fin. series)
Current open series: 4 (-4.45 units)

(5/16/11) Toronto (M/L) (C) – Win
(5/16/11) Baltimore (M/L) (A) – Loss
(5/16/11) Philadelphia (M/L) (A) – Loss
(5/16/11) Philadelphia (-1½) (A) – Loss
(5/16/11) Tampa Bay (M/L) (A) – Win
(5/16/11) Tampa Bay (-1½) (A) – Loss
(5/16/11) Seattle (M/L) (A) *Double Play* - Win, Win
(5/16/11) Seattle (-1½) (A) *Double Play* - Win, Win


(A) 32-29
(B) 11-14
(C) 8-6
(D) 5-1


Games for (5/17/11):
Baltimore (M/L) @ Boston (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
Philadelphia @ St Louis (M/L) (B) (8:15 pm EDT)
Philadelphia @ St Louis (-1½) (B) (8:15 pm EDT)
N.Y. Yankees @ Tampa Bay (-1½) (B) *Official* (6:40 pm EDT)


** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.

Sorry for my ignorance, but if this is a chase, why isn't today's bet on Philly instead of the Cards?
Thanks for sharing.

[ken23lau]

Sorry for my ignorance, but if this is a chase, why isn't today's bet on Philly instead of the Cards?
Thanks for sharing.

If you're sorry for your ignorance you wouldn't be asking that.

[kjrudemi]

Sorry for my ignorance, but if this is a chase, why isn't today's bet on Philly instead of the Cards?
Thanks for sharing.

The specific team in a chase can change depending on criteria. Just follow what Wallco says, and you will be fine.

[GGPLAYER]

The answer is contained within the thread. Let me make it easy. Don't try to figure it out because you won't. Just put your trust in Wallco and the system. It's not like anything you have ever seen or done before but it works. This is not a standard chase where you pick one team and go A,B,C and hope you don't get burned by -200 odds. Series can go to a D bet and the teams can change sometimes just before the first pitch so you have to be diligent in making sure you see the word "Official". It is really the only work you or anybody else has to do. Wallco has the hard part but in the end we all collect at the window.

[wunwun]

The specific team in a chase can change depending on criteria. Just follow what Wallco says, and you will be fine.

Thanks again.

[ok15533]

what was Wallcos's Record last year. ?

[ok15533]

sup bro thanks for the post. what are your record last year. how many looses? if any.

[Wallco99]

what was Wallcos's Record last year. ?

I believe you already asked this, And I know I answered it.

[SkivChef]

i experience deja vu daily!

[SkivChef]

i experience deja vu daily

[GGPLAYER]

I'm starting to lose faith in humanity.