John Morrison 2011 MLB

[honeyeater]

I just read back and see what happened. Wallco, get your head out of your tail and focus on the matter at hand and lets win some money together. Stop getting caught up in the war of words and act like a professional and stop making mistakes. I realize that this will probably rub you the wrong way and I dont really care. You can come back at me in retaliation if you want too, if it makes you feel better inside. I dont care. Whatever it takes to move this in a positive direction is what needs to happen. STOP RESPONDING TO THE DOUCHE BAGS AND FOCUS! This is the last thing you will read from me about this matter. Now, moving forward, lets get rich.

FYI
If he was a professional he would be charging you for this service not just giving his picks away. He has stated he does not have a gambling mentality so you can forget getting rich anytime soon (it's to bad he has chosen Sports Betting to pursue since he does not have a gambling mentality). And finally why should he care if you get rich anyway- you haven't given him a dime. He really owes you nothing.
I miss the discussions about JM. At least then everyone seemed to have one common complaint. That our fictional hero JM was ripping us off. The entire forum rallied around burning the man at the stake. The good old days.

[Wilba]

Honeyeater - just making sure that I understand: you play to win 10% on the biggest fav of the day at -1.5 everytime the biggest fav (at -1.5) has lost 3 straight, this is correct?

and you do it on a 3 game chase? so you risk ~70% of your bankroll on the belief that the biggest fav of the day will not lose 6 days straight at -1.5 RL

please let me know if what I say above is correct?

[dogs1972]

Fcking Cubs.

[honeyeater]

Honeyeater - just making sure that I understand: you play to win 10% on the biggest fav of the day at -1.5 everytime the biggest fav (at -1.5) has lost 3 straight, this is correct?

and you do it on a 3 game chase? so you risk ~70% of your bankroll on the belief that the biggest fav of the day will not lose 6 days straight at -1.5 RL

please let me know if what I say above is correct?

I could care less if you understand or not. I'm not here to sell you on anything. You play your picks with your money management and I'll play mine. In the meantime forget the name Honeyeater and I'll forget Wilba- Tracking?

[SUPEREAGLE43]

Well put Honeyeater, well put sir. Anything else you want to get off your chest so we can lay this to rest? Anyone else?

[Wilba]

so I take it that that is a yes? you admit that you play the system in this way?

come on man, if your such a pro why would you have trouble admitting to your method - why would you run away from answering a simple yes/no question?

[Wilba]

I just want to know how to make +100% a month is all, because I have been in this game for a long time and I consider a steady increase of 10-15% per month as very good.

excuse me trying to enlighten myself by gaining knowledge from one of the pros, I have a spare 50K and I really want to know a guaranteed way to turn it into 4 million dollars within two years

[Wilba]

Well done on the Cubs Wallco

[Wilba]

I will now fade the Cubs on a 2 game chase - this has been pure gold every time after a win fade the Cubs on a 2 game chase..

[honeyeater]

I just want to know how to make +100% a month is all, because I have been in this game for a long time and I consider a steady increase of 10-15% per month as very good.

excuse me trying to enlighten myself by gaining knowledge from one of the pros, I have a spare 50K and I really want to know a guaranteed way to turn it into 4 million dollars within two years

There are no guarantees that's why they call it gambling- As for increased money supply 1st- you should understand it's a lot easier to risk 50% of 50K then it is 50% of 1M. As for 4 million in 2 years once again you are compounding the wins. That's impossible. Mainly because no book is going to take a 50K bet let alone higher. If you use a gov run book in OZ or UK you can make large bets but if you are using multiple accounts you WILL move the price because no one in those countries bets on MLB (I'm not certain about UK but in OZ the NSW pool on MLB for TAB on any given game I doubt is over 150K).
As you can see growth is finite. Unlike deep liquid markets like Commodities or Equities in Sports Betting you will reach a ceiling.
As for my systems and how I play once again you've done nothing but trash it so I really have no ambition to help you understand. And since you have nothing to do with putting food on my table I have reason to enlighten you about anything. This post is a simple way to bury the hatchet and forget about each others issues- agree?

[Wilba]

LOL i guess you actually took my post seriously

you seriously think I'm dumb enough to risk 70% of my roll on blind faith that the biggest favorite of the day at RL -1.5 won't lose 6 days straight? I guess I have been around a lot longer than you because I know for a fact that it is only a matter of time before this happens (occurs on average 3x a season)

Yep no worries here with burying the hatchet - you were the one that came in here and poked me so I poked back is all. I don't actually have anything against you, I just appreciate the entertainment.

You have my word that there will be no more unprovoked ROFLing at your stories about how people invest thousands of dollars with you to bet on random SBR forum systems (actually I can't guarantee that I won't be laughing, but I promise that I won't post anything about it)

all the best champ and good luck with it all

[Wilba]

sorry again to everyone in here for stirring the pot, I realise it's annoying to scroll through heaps of crap posts.

I will be quiet now!

[G's pks]

will you guys stop clogging the thread please...I am meditating...

[atari5200]

I'm back again fellas for a quick message.

This is thread is what it is, many people come on here looking for a way to get an edge on MLB.

If you want to see 1 strong pick a night, please feel free to stop by my thread.

My win tonight has put my record at 9-2.

take care and BOL!

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-handicapping/1139259-atari5200-mlb-play-day-p4.html

[honeyeater]

LOL i guess you actually took my post seriously

you seriously think I'm dumb enough to risk 70% of my roll on blind faith that the biggest favorite of the day at RL -1.5 won't lose 6 days straight? I guess I have been around a lot longer than you because I know for a fact that it is only a matter of time before this happens (occurs on average 3x a season)

Yep no worries here with burying the hatchet - you were the one that came in here and poked me so I poked back is all. I don't actually have anything against you, I just appreciate the entertainment.

You have my word that there will be no more unprovoked ROFLing at your stories about how people invest thousands of dollars with you to bet on random SBR forum systems (actually I can't guarantee that I won't be laughing, but I promise that I won't post anything about it)

all the best champ and good luck with it all

Thanks Wilba- while this is not important I think the only issue I have with you is you do not read the posts. I think you just skim them. 1rst I don't follow "random" SBR forum picks. The Shut Out System I've followed for 4 years. That's been around for awhile. And JM is another that I have used playing through my own filters. The shut out has lost but overall the past 4 years has worked well. As for the FAV it's the OPENING FAV on a certain book. I have back tested this and NO the way I play it- it has NOT lost 6 in a row (back testing since 2005). So no offense but you make up stuff and I think that's what gets under people's skin.
Now I have no idea what you do for a living BUT one thing I'm sure of you do not raise money. I know this because if you did you would realize how easy it is to raise $50K from someone- especially over the phone IF you are capable of calling 300-400 numbers a day and have decent lead cards. Every 300-400 calls will equal about 3 interested people. Of those 3 people that you continue to pursue 1 out of 15 will buy. Now in person the ratio is much higher. You can meet with 30 people and find a buyer in one. Making them money and retaining clientele is obviously reliant on whether or not you make money.
So those are the facts and your very condescending post I suppose made me feel you should at least be aware of what is true. I'm glad I could make you laugh. I'm able to laugh all day long.
Good Luck With Whatever it is You Do

[Wilba]

why is G's back again? I thought he hated this thread

well done Atari on your new thread it looks good

[G's pks]

why is G's back again? I thought he hated this thread

well done Atari on your new thread it looks good

I am waiting for the morrison picks and the girls basketball too...

[Wallco99]

Wallco man you gotta stop arguing and get your head in the game. In my opinion I think you're getting distracted from all this fuss. Because of today's mistake I lost the money + the money I could've earned. Not bashing because everyone makes mistakes but there comes a responsibility when many are depending on you. Hope you understand

Not to make excuses, because I did screw up today, but as I stated in my post, you could have doubled up on the St Louis bet and your Baltimore bet would have basically canceled itself out, less a couple dollars, $10 on $100 bet. The change was made with plenty of time before the start of game. But as for your other point, the bickering is over, at least on my end.

[Wallco99]

I just read back and see what happened. Wallco, get your head out of your tail and focus on the matter at hand and lets win some money together. Stop getting caught up in the war of words and act like a professional and stop making mistakes. I realize that this will probably rub you the wrong way and I dont really care. You can come back at me in retaliation if you want too, if it makes you feel better inside. I dont care. Whatever it takes to move this in a positive direction is what needs to happen. STOP RESPONDING TO THE DOUCHE BAGS AND FOCUS! This is the last thing you will read from me about this matter. Now, moving forward, lets get rich.

No, you are right in everything you say, I screwed up and admit it. Focus is back and will not be lost again.

[G's pks]

good luck with your "c" bets guys tomorrow guys what is the total unit risk on 2 "C" bets anyways?...

[ken23lau]

Not to make excuses, because I did screw up today, but as I stated in my post, you could have doubled up on the St Louis bet and your Baltimore bet would have basically canceled itself out, less a couple dollars, $10 on $100 bet. The change was made with plenty of time before the start of game. But as for your other point, the bickering is over, at least on my end.

Thing is I didn't check the thread before the game. I trusted your "official" picks and it wasn't the easiest thing checking the thread when I was at work. Everyone makes mistakes so I'm not pointing fingers, G is a fuqing @ss hole anyways, so I actually blame this thing on him. The best thing to do is just to ignore the douchebag and let him live in his own little world. I'm glad that you decided to be the bigger man. That itself shows how childish and arrogant he is. Looking forward to your next plays, just make sure to double check this time!! Thanks.

[ken23lau]

good luck with your "c" bets guys tomorrow guys what is the total unit risk on 2 "C" bets anyways?...

The total risk is 8 units. More than you'll ever make this season.

[xgame]

Fcking Cubs.

I like that!!!

[jphil]

Anything else you want to get off your chest so we can lay this to rest? Anyone else?

no sir. i too am also meditating....

[jphil]

Fcking Cubs.

filter: play every 3rd gm. after 2 losses.

[peeiempee]

This thread is funny. You get all sorts of people here

[ross607]

aah...fuc...k! bet was st louis not baltimore... I did the same supereagle... placed my bet as soon as it went official in first post and not checked thread again till now.... that'll teach me not to be so eager lol. I need my luck to turn around soon my roll is really hurting!

[Kev the Brit]

Wallco, my friend, I don't accept your statement that you corrected your error in good time for us to make corrective bets. As you have said, many times, we must wait for the word "official" and then we can act. I did just that: checked the posts regularly yesterday until I saw Baltimore as official. Like most folk here, I am also getting very annoyed with the arguments, so once I see your official word I don't come back online until the following morning. Why would I want to come back in the meantime? I have the official word to go ahead with the bet. I have a life outside this forum and I don't want to continuously wade through all the $hit that is written here.

Some people have suggested that you were distracted by the arguments. Only you know if that is true.

I sense a cooling down in the arguments, which is welcome.

Wallco, you have put a hell of a lot of effort into the system. For that you have gained my respect and I'm onboard and investing real money in your work. Please do not allow my respect, and that of the others here, to be eroded by allowing yourself to enter into vacuous discussions.

Finally, this morning I beat myself up over what I thought was yet another mistake that I had made (6 units in lost stake plus 2+ units in lost revenue). I make mistakes with betting, so I wasn't surprised to make another one. Fortunately, it was small consolation to find out that I did not make the mistake. On the basis that we all make mistakes, I'm prepared to move on, but please, please, do not get sucked into disputes.

Let your system speak for you.

Regards
Kev

[J.M. Disciple]

Start 6/28
John Morrison Champ Selections: for 6/29
3* Star pick: New York Yankees.....Win
2* Star pick: Boston Red Sox .......Lose
2* Star pick: Oakland Athletics.......Lose
1* Star pick: Seattle Mariners........lose
1* Star pick: Houston Astros.........Lose

Profit: -5 Units
Record 2-8[/color]
Each star represents 1 unit
So much for that 10 game winning streak.... 2 day losing streak since the plays have started being posted. Wondering when we should start fading him.

[J.M. Disciple]

I am wondering for all those who misbet wagers on Baltimore today instead of ST. LOuis. I wouldn't blame it all on wallco. If he says Baltimore as -1.5 but they are clearly an underdog in the game, wouldn't you find it strange when you don't see the line -1.5 on your book? Should ring some bells in your head that something is wrong before you place you bet.

Did you all just take them money line? He has stated many times that he never bets +1.5.

[Andy3568]

I just want to know how to make +100% a month is all, because I have been in this game for a long time and I consider a steady increase of 10-15% per month as very good.

excuse me trying to enlighten myself by gaining knowledge from one of the pros, I have a spare 50K and I really want to know a guaranteed way to turn it into 4 million dollars within two years

I know how you can turn $100 into $5.4 billion in a year. With $50,000, you can have $2.7 trillion!

[ross607]

I am wondering for all those who misbet wagers on Baltimore today instead of ST. LOuis. I wouldn't blame it all on wallco. If he says Baltimore as -1.5 but they are clearly an underdog in the game, wouldn't you find it strange when you don't see the line -1.5 on your book? Should ring some bells in your head that something is wrong before you place you bet. Did you all just take them money line? He has stated many times that he never bets +1.5.

I'm not really blaming wallco, more myself for not coming back to the forum to check, I could have seen the revision and then just doubled up on st louis to cancel my balt wager out. Just echoing what Kev said tho, the reason I didnt come back to check... was all the nonsense going on lately, just grown tired of it. With regard to the +1.5 balt line yeah thats true but there have been several times this year where my book throws up the reverse run line to what wallco's line is and I dont get a choice of an alternate line so I thought this was just one of those occasions where my book was out of whack with the general consensus. So yeah just threw it on the M/L I'm an ass lol. No worries, hoefully better times ahead!

[ken23lau]

I am wondering for all those who misbet wagers on Baltimore today instead of ST. LOuis. I wouldn't blame it all on wallco. If he says Baltimore as -1.5 but they are clearly an underdog in the game, wouldn't you find it strange when you don't see the line -1.5 on your book? Should ring some bells in your head that something is wrong before you place you bet.

Did you all just take them money line? He has stated many times that he never bets +1.5.

Are you dumb, you can still bet -1.5 for underdogs

[Wallco99]

I am wondering for all those who misbet wagers on Baltimore today instead of ST. LOuis. I wouldn't blame it all on wallco. If he says Baltimore as -1.5 but they are clearly an underdog in the game, wouldn't you find it strange when you don't see the line -1.5 on your book? Should ring some bells in your head that something is wrong before you place you bet.

Did you all just take them money line? He has stated many times that he never bets +1.5.

It is my fault JMD, the word official was there. Everyone has a right to be pissed. Please don't make excuses, that is not my intent. If the only rule is wait for official, and official is there, how can you fault anyone for playing that game. I realize you have only been on this thread for a couple weeks, and may have missed some of our earlier action when we were playing -1 1/2 on dogs, and some will happen in the future, but you really can't push this on anyone but me. Kevin has made some very good points, as usual, my only focus from here on out is on MLB PLU$$$. I am by no means going to make any excuses, because I know it was my stupidity that caused the mis-paste, but it will no longer be from childish name calling if, in fact, that was the cause.

[Bradfordmiller]

I'm not really blaming wallco, more myself for not coming back to the forum to check, I could have seen the revision and then just doubled up on st louis to cancel my balt wager out. Just echoing what Kev said tho, the reason I didnt come back to check... was all the nonsense going on lately, just grown tired of it. With regard to the +1.5 balt line yeah thats true but there have been several times this year where my book throws up the reverse run line to what wallco's line is and I dont get a choice of an alternate line so I thought this was just one of those occasions where my book was out of whack with the general consensus. So yeah just threw it on the M/L I'm an ass lol. No worries, hoefully better times ahead!

Hey Paul,
As Wallco has admitted total liability perhaps you can send him your Victor Chandler Account
details where he can reimburse you for the sickening loss you suffered.