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  • TechnicalTrader
    SBR MVP
    • 05-09-16
    • 1434

    #911
    Originally posted by Slanina
    Checking in.


    What system/systems are you posting?

    Good luck.

    NOst likely only this one. Again, if anyone is willing to post one of my systems, I'd be willing to provide them with the SDQL queries and explain in detail of how it works. I'll be tracking it on my spreadsheet, just don't have time to be posting the picks every day... And it should have picks every single day... Interested?
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    • Notorious_Donk
      SBR MVP
      • 03-29-11
      • 2689

      #912
      Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
      NOst likely only this one. Again, if anyone is willing to post one of my systems, I'd be willing to provide them with the SDQL queries and explain in detail of how it works. I'll be tracking it on my spreadsheet, just don't have time to be posting the picks every day... And it should have picks every single day... Interested?
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      • TechnicalTrader
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        • 05-09-16
        • 1434

        #913
        Originally posted by Notorious_Donk
        Message me

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        • TechnicalTrader
          SBR MVP
          • 05-09-16
          • 1434

          #914
          This is for those action junkies out there...

          If you are looking for some early 1st inning action, I'd recommend a simple first inning chase for opening day. I see the following 1st inning run odds for the first three games of the season. The beauty about today is, no games are overlapping, which makes this a rare chance to chase the first inning. i'm seeing great odds on Pinnacle at +237, +200 and +214.

          A 1% BR chase would only cost you 5.5% of BR. I'd recommend risking to win 0.5% of BR where if all three bets lose, your total loss would only be 2.75% of BR.

          These would be your chase legs:

          Bet 1) NYY/TB, bet 0.36% of BR to win 0.5%
          if Bet 1 does not win
          Bet 2) SF/ARZ, bet 1.23% of BR to win 1.23%
          if both Bet 1 and Bet 2 do not win
          Bet 3) CHC/STL, bet 2.75% of BR to win 2.75%

          Please keep in mind that odds might change, so your %/BR would also change with them. These are the current odds I am seeing.

          For those who decide to chase, again do not risk too much here!!!! This for me, is almost gambling... not betting and I am not a gambler!
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          • TechnicalTrader
            SBR MVP
            • 05-09-16
            • 1434

            #915
            Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
            This is for those action junkies out there...

            If you are looking for some early 1st inning action, I'd recommend a simple first inning chase for opening day. I see the following 1st inning run odds for the first three games of the season. The beauty about today is, no games are overlapping, which makes this a rare chance to chase the first inning. i'm seeing great odds on Pinnacle at +237, +200 and +214.

            A 1% BR chase would only cost you 5.5% of BR. I'd recommend risking to win 0.5% of BR where if all three bets lose, your total loss would only be 2.75% of BR.

            These would be your chase legs:

            Bet 1) NYY/TB, bet 0.36% of BR to win 0.5%
            if Bet 1 does not win
            Bet 2) SF/ARZ, bet 1.23% of BR to win 1.23%
            if both Bet 1 and Bet 2 do not win
            Bet 3) CHC/STL, bet 2.75% of BR to win 2.75%

            Please keep in mind that odds might change, so your %/BR would also change with them. These are the current odds I am seeing.

            For those who decide to chase, again do not risk too much here!!!! This for me, is almost gambling... not betting and I am not a gambler!

            Cashed! Anyone else play it??
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            • Fabiodog
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-17-13
              • 319

              #916
              Thanks for the winner sir.
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              • TechnicalTrader
                SBR MVP
                • 05-09-16
                • 1434

                #917
                Originally posted by Fabiodog
                Thanks for the winner sir.
                NP, just out of curiosity; did you bet to win 0.5% BR, 1% or what?
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                • Fabiodog
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 03-17-13
                  • 319

                  #918
                  1%,but I have a small bank roll
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                  • TechnicalTrader
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-09-16
                    • 1434

                    #919
                    Interesting stats here:

                    Tanaka is 8-5 SU and 8-5 on the RL after a game in which he lost as a favorite. BUT... He is 1-3 SU and 2-2 on the RL when his K to B ratio was below 1.7. Nothing too special here

                    Now, this is where things get interesting, his O/U record after "this type" of start is 4-8-1, it is 1-3 when his K to B ratio is under 1.7

                    His O/U on games in April where he holds an ERA higher than 5.00 is 4-7 and 9-13 through May. I'd say, the play is under next time Tanaka takes the mound.
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                    • pairadux
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 08-08-10
                      • 26

                      #920
                      TT,

                      Thanks for that link - I'm going to merge it with my sheet and see how it all plays out.
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                      • Notorious_Donk
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-29-11
                        • 2689

                        #921
                        Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
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                        • TechnicalTrader
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-09-16
                          • 1434

                          #922
                          Sorry buddy. I lost contact to you and had someone else ask me. Check the other thread for all of the details.
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                          • Notorious_Donk
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-29-11
                            • 2689

                            #923
                            Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                            Sorry buddy. I lost contact to you and had someone else ask me. Check the other thread for all of the details.
                            Alright no problem. I have a system for first inning plays myself so was just looking to collaborate and see if we could develop something
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                            • Slanina
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-21-09
                              • 3827

                              #924
                              How long do you wait into the sseason before you start playing the first 5 system?
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                              • Capybara
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-17-08
                                • 11803

                                #925
                                Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                Interesting stats here:

                                Tanaka is 8-5 SU and 8-5 on the RL after a game in which he lost as a favorite. BUT... He is 1-3 SU and 2-2 on the RL when his K to B ratio was below 1.7. Nothing too special here

                                Now, this is where things get interesting, his O/U record after "this type" of start is 4-8-1, it is 1-3 when his K to B ratio is under 1.7

                                His O/U on games in April where he holds an ERA higher than 5.00 is 4-7 and 9-13 through May. I'd say, the play is under next time Tanaka takes the mound.
                                Hey, TT, I've read this three times and I'm afraid I'm going to need the Cliff Notes version, the pretend-I'm-your-seven-year-old version. Cuz not following it. By what reasoning are you coming up with that his next game should go under? Thanks!
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                                • TechnicalTrader
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-09-16
                                  • 1434

                                  #926
                                  Originally posted by Capybara
                                  Hey, TT, I've read this three times and I'm afraid I'm going to need the Cliff Notes version, the pretend-I'm-your-seven-year-old version. Cuz not following it. By what reasoning are you coming up with that his next game should go under? Thanks!

                                  Basically Tanaka tightens up after getting shelled... Especially in April. I'm not saying it's a sure shot, but def something to take in mind when capping his next start.
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                                  • Capybara
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-17-08
                                    • 11803

                                    #927
                                    Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                    Basically Tanaka tightens up after getting shelled... Especially in April. I'm not saying it's a sure shot, but def something to take in mind when capping his next start.
                                    Okay, well I did get that that was the gist, was just hoping to understand how you arrived at that with the analysis you included. Wanted to make sure I was understanding the numbers/records you were referencing correctly since not sure I was.
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                                    • Capybara
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-17-08
                                      • 11803

                                      #928
                                      Also... CAN'T WAIT FOR PLAYS, FEED US, TT!!
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                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-09-16
                                        • 1434

                                        #929
                                        Originally posted by Capybara
                                        Okay, well I did get that that was the gist, was just hoping to understand how you arrived at that with the analysis you included. Wanted to make sure I was understanding the numbers/records you were referencing correctly since not sure I was.
                                        How I dug up those numbers? SDQL

                                        I was watching the game and it just seemed like he was really relaxed and not faded while things were falling apart. It seemed as if he was treating the game like a ST game. So I just ran the numbers and that's what history threw back at me.

                                        One more goody for action junkies who enjoy betting live:

                                        (broken down in to variables)
                                        1) Dating back to the beginning of the 2013 season, during April or earlier
                                        2) Home Fav's with lines weaker than -140 (-140 to -105)
                                        3) After playing three innings of shutout ball (both teams not scoring)
                                        4) have gone 15-66

                                        So here's the play:

                                        IF the TOR/BAL games goes in to the fourth inning without a run scored, play TOR straight up or on the RL. Same thing for PHI.

                                        Enjoy. Let's see if we get a play
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                                        • Capybara
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 08-17-08
                                          • 11803

                                          #930
                                          TT, stop yammering and give us a First Inning Score YES or NO play...



                                          j/k, appreciate the extra action... but do want one of your signature plays...
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                                          • TechnicalTrader
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-09-16
                                            • 1434

                                            #931
                                            Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                            How I dug up those numbers? SDQL

                                            I was watching the game and it just seemed like he was really relaxed and not faded while things were falling apart. It seemed as if he was treating the game like a ST game. So I just ran the numbers and that's what history threw back at me.

                                            One more goody for action junkies who enjoy betting live:

                                            (broken down in to variables)
                                            1) Dating back to the beginning of the 2013 season, during April or earlier
                                            2) Home Fav's with lines weaker than -140 (-140 to -105)
                                            3) After playing three innings of shutout ball (both teams not scoring)
                                            4) have gone 15-66

                                            So here's the play:

                                            IF the TOR/BAL games goes in to the fourth inning without a run scored, play TOR straight up or on the RL. Same thing for PHI.

                                            Enjoy. Let's see if we get a play

                                            Here we go: Just refined it:

                                            1) Dating back to the beginning of the 2012 season, during April or earlier
                                            2) Home Fav's with lines between -165 and -120
                                            3) After playing three innings of shutout ball (both teams not scoring)
                                            4) have gone 25-75

                                            Today's plays: SEA, TOR, PIT

                                            I am going to jump on these. great numbers!

                                            As for my 1st inning plays, don't expect any before April 20th. the system performs the best now, averaging a 80% hit rate over the last 12 seasons and I am keeping these picks or me. Just joking. LOL
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                                            • thekoreanmang
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-17-14
                                              • 1422

                                              #932
                                              Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                              Interesting stats here:

                                              Tanaka is 8-5 SU and 8-5 on the RL after a game in which he lost as a favorite. BUT... He is 1-3 SU and 2-2 on the RL when his K to B ratio was below 1.7. Nothing too special here

                                              Now, this is where things get interesting, his O/U record after "this type" of start is 4-8-1, it is 1-3 when his K to B ratio is under 1.7

                                              His O/U on games in April where he holds an ERA higher than 5.00 is 4-7 and 9-13 through May. I'd say, the play is under next time Tanaka takes the mound.
                                              Nice angle. I wonder though if this same bounceback mentality could just be applied to all pitchers who get shelled their prior start, especially if they're a proven starter.
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                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-09-16
                                                • 1434

                                                #933
                                                I doubt it. A "pitcher" isnt just a pitcher, some aces struggle in April, some don't. This is just something I picked up while watching the game.

                                                This is just the beginning, I'm sure the same can be done for player props (another bet Vegas tends to not spend too much time on). FOr example a player like Miggy who has been rock solid over the last... hell decade might react a certain way to a certain past performance. You can't forget these players have such a repetitive ritual in training, recovery, warming up. They work like little machines, well at least the really good ones do. that's what makes them so damn good. Consistency!
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                                                • Capybara
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 08-17-08
                                                  • 11803

                                                  #934
                                                  Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                  Here we go: Just refined it:

                                                  1) Dating back to the beginning of the 2012 season, during April or earlier
                                                  2) Home Fav's with lines between -165 and -120
                                                  3) After playing three innings of shutout ball (both teams not scoring)
                                                  4) have gone 25-75

                                                  Today's plays: SEA, TOR, PIT

                                                  I am going to jump on these. great numbers!

                                                  As for my 1st inning plays, don't expect any before April 20th. the system performs the best now, averaging a 80% hit rate over the last 12 seasons and I am keeping these picks or me. Just joking. LOL
                                                  Hey, TT, did any of these make it through the three shutout innings? Hopefully not as they were all losers.
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                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                    • 1434

                                                    #935
                                                    Originally posted by Capybara
                                                    Hey, TT, did any of these make it through the three shutout innings? Hopefully not as they were all losers.
                                                    Only PIT. Here are today's:

                                                    STL postponed
                                                    MIN

                                                    I added a few filters to my model.
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                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                      • 1434

                                                      #936
                                                      Oh and I play the dog if tied after 5. Much better results.
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                                                      • juveitalia
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 11-24-15
                                                        • 42

                                                        #937
                                                        Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                        Oh and I play the dog if tied after 5. Much better results.
                                                        Is that usually RL or ML? Thanks for the input and all your hard work. Excited for the season. BOL!
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                                                        • TechnicalTrader
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-09-16
                                                          • 1434

                                                          #938
                                                          RL.

                                                          Again, I am still playing around with different variables so nothing is set in stone...

                                                          I think the strategy has legs, just needs to be refined.
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                                                          • juveitalia
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 11-24-15
                                                            • 42

                                                            #939
                                                            Checking in. This first inning system still a go this season?
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                                                            • TechnicalTrader
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-09-16
                                                              • 1434

                                                              #940
                                                              Originally posted by juveitalia
                                                              Checking in. This first inning system still a go this season?
                                                              Yep, the model i use requires at least two weeks of data. Best case scenario we will have some plays around April 20th...
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                                                              • juveitalia
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 11-24-15
                                                                • 42

                                                                #941
                                                                Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                                                                Yep, the model i use requires at least two weeks of data. Best case scenario we will have some plays around April 20th...
                                                                Got ya. Just wasn't sure. Keep up all the great work! Much appreciated.
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                                                                • Slanina
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-21-09
                                                                  • 3827

                                                                  #942
                                                                  Any word on this?
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                                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                                    • 1434

                                                                    #943
                                                                    Nothing yet... Still waiting for a play.
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                                                                    • SlickRick1382
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-15-11
                                                                      • 3838

                                                                      #944
                                                                      Patiently waiting like ...
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                                                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-09-16
                                                                        • 1434

                                                                        #945
                                                                        Soon.... We still have plenty of baseball ahead of us. No need to rush any picks.
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