New Baseball Power Rating System

[EXhoosier10]

This question has been asked at least a dozen times. CIN is a play. As long as the pitcher on the team you select has at least 20 innings it does not matter how many innings the opposing pitcher has gone. This is what we have been using last season and this season.

Really?

formulawiz (post 7)
i think you have it correct if you only consider 20 innings pitched as the min for the pitcher you choose...but wouldnt it make more sense that the opposing pitcher should have at least 20 innings pitched too...just to make sure there is enough data...I mean in a week or so we dont have to think about it anymore bc most of the pitchers will have 20 Innings in a week or two... just a thought...

GL btw yeah Bos and NYY would be the only plays if you consider 20 I pitched for both starters... and yes Bos looks fishy...

(post 10)

Yes both pitchers would have to have a minimum of 20 innings pitched.

[HoulihansTX]

Seattle (No Play >-146)
Fla (No Play >-110)
LA (No Play <+122)
ARI (No Play if Washington is <-134)
Detroit (No Play CWS <-144)
Toronto (No Play >-175)
SD (No Play SF is <-135)

Hopefully this wording of the plays is easily understandable. If not, please ask me how to interpret. Just remember to read out the symbols, and interpret them literally.

[Formulawiz]

Really?

Yes that was early on as you can see by the post number, but since then both Peter and I changed it.
Sportrends contacted me a few minutes ago regarding the immature behavior and bickering going on and therefore they no longer want their name associated with this thread. They will be removing their systems from their website and will only be availabe to their customers. Thanks bobby for a job well done. You spoiled it for all the people on this thread.

[Joe Dogs]

So which is it Formulawiz...Both pitchers need 20 innings pitched or just the pitcher of the team your wagering on needs 20 innings pitched?

[Joe Dogs]

Just caught your replay.....

[bobby29]

This question has been asked at least a dozen times. CIN is a play. As long as the pitcher on the team you select has at least 20 innings it does not matter how many innings the opposing pitcher has gone. This is what we have been using last season and this season.

sorry pal you are full of crap once again. THis might be your rule but its not sports trends rules. According to sports trends, both pitchers need 20 innings. So who should we believe you or the people who developed the system.

When comparing our projected money lines to the oddsmaker's posted lines there needs to be at least a 25-cent differential or overlay in which the oddsmakers ML's are moving in the opposite direction to our lines.
Make sure each pitcher has pitched at least 20 innings.
Never bet on a team favorite in which you must lay over -175.
Never bet on teams that are on a 2 game or more losing streak.
Never bet against a team on a 2 game winning streak or more.
Try to stay away from teams traveling long distances in their first game

[Formulawiz]

So which is it Formulawiz...Both pitchers need 20 innings pitched or just the pitcher of the team your wagering on needs 20 innings pitched?

Read my previous post. I dont think it matters any longer. It looks like sportrends removed these systems from their websites. I really hope this wont affect college and pro football. I did not want to ask them.

[Formulawiz]

Well I guess this ends our baseball thread for the actions of a few jerks. I guess I am included for letting myself get sucked into it when I should have known better. We had a good thing going for over 2 years and now its over. I dont blame sportrends for doing this because their name is associated with this and it puts them in an awkward position. As their customer I asked them a few years ago if they could provide people here on SBR with their college and pro football and basketball spreadsheets in which they agreed to.
Well good luck and hope it wont affect our college and pro football and basketball thread.

[bobby29]

lmfaoooooooooooooo as soon as somebody was going to keep an accurate record of the sports trends system plays they remove the system from their site. I told you that formula was sam or a person working at sports trends. This fraud company didnt want to be exposed with their system, so they remove it. Nice going formula or should we call you sam now

[EXhoosier10]

For anyone thinking about purchasing these systems, here are the numbers from July 15 through August 15.

ML
44-38...Win percentage = 54%... Units = -8.65u.... ROI = -7.61%

TPR
34-30...Win percentage = 53%... Units = -3.30u.... ROI = -4.00%

SA
81-88...Win percentage = 48%... Units = -8.23u.... ROI = -4.22%

[HoulihansTX]

Cool.

Petty arguments get in the way of a free system I was making money off of. Thanks fellas. Hopefully you got what you wanted.

[bobby29]

Cool.

Petty arguments get in the way of a free system I was making money off of. Thanks fellas. Hopefully you got what you wanted.

Nobdy to blame here but formula or should we call him sam from now on.

[bobby29]

For anyone thinking about purchasing these systems, here are the numbers from July 15 through August 15.

ML
44-38...Win percentage = 54%... Units = -8.65u.... ROI = -7.61%

TPR
34-30...Win percentage = 53%... Units = -3.30u.... ROI = -4.00%

SA
81-88...Win percentage = 48%... Units = -8.23u.... ROI = -4.22%

That cant be right, formula is up close to a million units using the ml system.
glad to see somebody actually kept an accurate record for the last month. Numbers dont lie thats for sure

[Formulawiz]

For anyone thinking about purchasing these systems, here are the numbers from July 15 through August 15.

ML
44-38...Win percentage = 54%... Units = -8.65u.... ROI = -7.61%

TPR
34-30...Win percentage = 53%... Units = -3.30u.... ROI = -4.00%

SA
81-88...Win percentage = 48%... Units = -8.23u.... ROI = -4.22%

I know your a late comer to our thread and are trying your best, but dont you think it would be more accurate to utilize YTD win/loss stats for the ML system rather then 1 month of data. I guess it would be too much to ask of you but dont worry, I already went back and did the work and found the ML system hit well over 60% YTD and made alot of money for many of us who utilize good money management techniques.

I have no issue with you but your win/loss % for the ML system may be correct from the dates you post, but you cant measure how good a baseball system performs only using 1 month of data. In addition, the units won or lost along with the ROI you post is flawed for the simple reason your assuming everyone bets the same amount of money on every game like that idiot Bobby does. Any unexperienced handicapper would have enough common sense not to follow the money management that dumbass Bobby utilizes. It is fair to say if you followed that idiot's money management you would lose money no matter what system you use, even if your handed a system that hits 80%. As I explained to that loser you cant wager the same amount of money on every game and that is a fact. His type of money management is unconscionable and will land you in the poor house very quickly.
As far as TPR and S/A system I did not keep the daily win/loss records but it would be fair to say they also performed pretty well by simply using some common sense money management.

[EXhoosier10]

xxx

[bobby29]

I know your a late comer to our thread but Isnt it funny you only go back to check the results of the ML system from July 15th thru Aug 15th, when you should be going back to the beginning of the season. It would be too much of a shock I guess to find the ML system hit well over 60% YTD and made alot of money for many of us.

As far as TPR and S/A system I did not keep the daily win/loss records but it would be fair to say they also performed pretty well.

dont you worry as soon as i get some extra time am gonna go back from the start of the year and post the record for this system and expose you as a big fraud formula or should we call you sam. You pulled the plug on the ml system because a few smart bettors stumbled into your thread and were gonna expose you for posting a system that really wasnt making money.
All i have to do is go thru may, june and part of julys record to prove that your system is garbage.
And like i keep saying but you being the rookie gambler that you are, hitting 60 percent on a system that picks all big favorites will not make you any money. Dont know how many times you need to be told, percentages mean nothing in baseball betting, its all about the units and the lines you are playing everyday and the lines you play everyday are big favorites almost everyone over -150.

[bobby29]

If you didn't keep win/loss records, how can you be fairly certain that they performed pretty well when clearly, my data shows different results?

exactly How he can sit here and say the system performed well, when he didnt keep a daily record is once again him trying to blow smoke up peoples butts. He just wants to say his system hit 60 percent so bad and get people to like him, he refuses to calculate an honest record using moneylines and units. I surf alot of sites on the web and this formula clown is one of the biggest frauds i have ever seen.

If this system was as good as he said it was, then you can bet your butt i would have made sure i was keeping a honest record everyday, so i could prove it to people with solid proof.

[Formulawiz]

If you didn't keep win/loss records, how can you be fairly certain that they performed pretty well when clearly, my data shows different results?

I didnt have to keep win/loss records. All I had to do is go back to the history of my posts and lo and behold, like magic all the facts were there for all to see on a daily basis. I am not sure if you read my previous post to that idiot Bobby in which I provided the win/loss records from the beginning of the season until the allstar break. I did the work and went back to every play I posted. The ML system hit 60.2% and 50 games over .500. If we incorporate your win/loss record from after the allstar break to aug 14, the ML system would still be in the 60% range so I believe its you who have their facts wrong. EXhoosier, be honest and tell us all, do you wager the same amount on every game.

And for you Bobby, you jackass the solid evidence is there, but all you do is spew from your asshole without looking at the facts and also everyone can thank you for closing down this thread.

[bobby29]

I didnt have to keep win/loss records. All I had to do is go back to the history of my posts and lo and behold, like magic all the facts were there for all to see on a daily basis. I am not sure if you read my previous post to that idiot Bobby in which I provided the win/loss records from the beginning of the season until the allstar break. I did the work and went back to every play I posted. The ML system hit 60.2% and 50 games over .500. If we incorporate your win/loss record from after the allstar break to aug 14, the ML system would still be in the 60% range so I believe its you who have their facts wrong. EXhoosier, be honest and tell us all, do you wager the same amount on every game.

And for you Bobby, you jackass the solid evidence is there, but all you do is spew from your asshole without looking at the facts and also everyone can thank you for closing down this thread.

seriously do you even bet? How many more times are you going to keep beating this dead horse about how you went 60 percent in bases? Going 60 percent in bases means jack shit, when you are laying heavy juice everyday.
Really everytime you keep talking about this 60 percent you make a complete fool of yourself and it shows how little you know about gambling. Now if you were hitting 60 percent in football laying -110 or even -105 on the plays i would be saluting you, but 60 percent in bases is nothing when 90 percent of your plays carry a juice over 150. It doesnt matter if you play all the games for differnt amounts like you say you do, the majority of your plays are still over -150 juice.
Also you said that betting favorites was the way to go, then why the hell would you bet more on the dogs then the favorites. You see you talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Also the sports trends system didnot say anywhere to bet the system plays less on the favorites then the dogs, so quit making up more bs.
Like i said am gonna go back from the first of the year and calculate all the plays that you posted and am pretty sure that the system will be in the minus column. The sports trends heavy favorite system is a complete scam and thats why your boy sam took it down, he didnt want anybody seeing the true record, because then nobody might by his software.

[Formulawiz]

seriously do you even bet? How many more times are you going to keep beating this dead horse about how you went 60 percent in bases? Going 60 percent in bases means jack shit, when you are laying heavy juice everyday.
Really everytime you keep talking about this 60 percent you make a complete fool of yourself and it shows how little you know about gambling. Now if you were hitting 60 percent in football laying -110 or even -105 on the plays i would be saluting you, but 60 percent in bases is nothing when 90 percent of your plays carry a juice over 150. It doesnt matter if you play all the games for differnt amounts like you say you do, the majority of your plays are still over -150 juice.
Also you said that betting favorites was the way to go, then why the hell would you bet more on the dogs then the favorites. You see you talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Also the sports trends system didnot say anywhere to bet the system plays less on the favorites then the dogs, so quit making up more bs.
Like i said am gonna go back from the first of the year and calculate all the plays that you posted and am pretty sure that the system will be in the minus column. The sports trends heavy favorite system is a complete scam and thats why your boy sam took it down, he didnt want anybody seeing the true record, because then nobody might by his software.

Hey jackass why are you going back now to check the records. You come in here and spute out of your asshole like you have the facts, make false accusations and are clueless and then you have the nerve to tell us you have to go back now and check the plays so you can get the correct records. You then come in here and try to tell us we must bet the same amount on every game. You are biggest moron and loser I have ever seen.
Go back you scammer and tell the sports service you work for, you were successful in badmouthing sportrends and shutting down this thread.

[bobby29]

Hey jackass why are you going back now to check the records. You come in here and spute out of your asshole like you have the facts, make false accusations and are clueless and then you have the nerve to tell us now you have to go back and check the plays so you can get the correct records. You then come in here and try to tell us we must bet the same amount on every game. You are biggest moron and loser I have ever seen.
Go back you scammer and tell the sports service you work for, you were successful in badmouthing sportrends and shutting down this thread.

Bad mouthing sports trends? Your buddy sam or like i said before is really you, got scared when somebody started actually keeping a daily record of this system and had to remove it from the website so people wouldnt stop buying the sports trend software. Your the only scammer on this site and to keep saying i work for some sports service, so what a complete fool you are. Lets think about this for a minute, if i did work for a sports service, what could i possibly gain for the service i supposed work for by just keeping a record of this system everyday. Please enlighten all of us as to what benefit this could be. Please let us all know how keeping a daily record helps the service i supposedly work for Your a friggin fraud and complete joke, and am sure most on this site now know that about you. First you were whining about me keeping a daily record, then you resort to some made up tale about somebody emailing you saying i work for a service, when nobody on this entire site even knows me. Unlike you who align themselves with scumbag sports services, i dont want anything to do with them. There isnt one service on this planet that i would pay one cent to for picks.. So please feel free to create more lies, fraud.


For anyone thinking about purchasing these systems, here are the numbers from July 15 through August 15.

ML
44-38...Win percentage = 54%... Units = -8.65u.... ROI = -7.61%

the numbers dont lie
hows your 1-3 day looking today? does all that juice you laid on seattle-150 and laa -150 taste good? Oh i know, on the 2 of the 3 losers you didnt bet much because they were big favorites, and instead put all the money on the one winner texas, oh wait wasnt texas also a big -150 favorite, so it looks like you didnt have much cash on them either. phony with a capital p

[Formulawiz]

For anyone thinking about purchasing these systems, here are the numbers from July 15 through August 15.

ML
44-38...Win percentage = 54%... Units = -8.65u.... ROI = -7.61%

TPR
34-30...Win percentage = 53%... Units = -3.30u.... ROI = -4.00%

SA
81-88...Win percentage = 48%... Units = -8.23u.... ROI = -4.22%

I didnt have to keep win/loss records. All I had to do is go back to the history of my posts and lo and behold, like magic all the facts were there for all to see on a daily basis. I am not sure if you read my previous post to that idiot Bobby in which I provided the win/loss records from the beginning of the season until the allstar break. I did the work and went back to every play I posted. The ML system hit 60.2% and 50 games over .500. If we incorporate your win/loss record from after the allstar break to aug 14, the ML system would still be in the 60% range so I believe its you who have their facts wrong. EXhoosier, be honest and tell us all, do you wager the same amount on every game.

And for you Bobby, you jackass the solid evidence is there, but all you do is spew from your asshole without looking at the facts and also everyone can thank you for closing down this thread.

[bobby29]

I didnt have to keep win/loss records. All I had to do is go back to the history of my posts and lo and behold, like magic all the facts were there for all to see on a daily basis. I am not sure if you read my previous post to that idiot Bobby in which I provided the win/loss records from the beginning of the season until the allstar break. I did the work and went back to every play I posted. The ML system hit 60.2% and 50 games over .500. If we incorporate your win/loss record from after the allstar break to aug 14, the ML system would still be in the 60% range so I believe its you who have their facts wrong. EXhoosier, be honest and tell us all, do you wager the same amount on every game.

And for you Bobby, you jackass the solid evidence is there, but all you do is spew from your asshole without looking at the facts and also everyone can thank you for closing down this thread.

No your boss sam closed down the thread because his scammer butt realized that his silly big favorite system would be exposed as being a money loser. Face it formula, your just a young punk who works for sam and probably never made a bet in your life. Dont worry me and am sure Hoosier will go back to day 1 of this thread to expose the truth that your silly system was a money burner. Gotta love how you keep talking about this great 60 percent record, but you just keep failing to talk about all the juice you laid on your plays. I keep trying to explain to you in bases going 60 percent is garbage when your laying -150 on every game. If this was football then 60 percent would be a great record, in bases with the juice you lay, its downright awful. By your simple lack of understanding, just shows everybody on this site how little you know about gambling and real does expose you as a phony. How did those 2 -150 losers taste today?

[Formulawiz]

No your boss sam closed down the thread because his scammer butt realized that his silly big favorite system would be exposed as being a money loser. Face it formula, your just a young punk who works for sam and probably never made a bet in your life. Dont worry me and am sure Hoosier will go back to day 1 of this thread to expose the truth that your silly system was a money burner. Gotta love how you keep talking about this great 60 percent record, but you just keep failing to talk about all the juice you laid on your plays. I keep trying to explain to you in bases going 60 percent is garbage when your laying -150 on every game. If this was football then 60 percent would be a great record, in bases with the juice you lay, its downright awful. By your simple lack of understanding, just shows everybody on this site how little you know about gambling and real does expose you as a phony. How did those 2 -150 losers taste today?

Scammer, jackass go back to your sports service you mental midget. The people here should thank you for ending this thread.

[bobby29]

Scammer, jackass go back to your sports service you mental midget. The people here should thank you for ending this thread.

Hey loudmouth, you still havent said what benefit it would be of the sports service i supposedly work for to keep a daily record of the system plays. Your mouth goes round and round but nothing but lies and hot air come out of it. I said it before the only reason i jumped into this thread was because i noticed you claiming a winning record percentage wise, but you werent tracking a daily record of units won-lost with the actual juice that was being laid on the games, so i jumped into the thread because i didnt want to see young gamblers who dont know any better playing a system that bets all big favorites. Isnt it funny how you keep saying well the big favorites is the way to go betting these days and how dogs dont win like they used, but then out of the other side of your mouth you say to bet the dogs for more then the favorites. Now why in the world would you do that if you just got done saying the favorites was the way to go. Because your full of crap thats why, you actually dont even know how to gamble or keep an honest record of units won-lost. Your a phony and am very glad i exposed you and your boss as both phonies with this silly system that can cost people big money.
Lastly quit making a fool of yourself with this i work for a sports service stuff, because the more you keep saying it the more people will see what a total phony you are. Whats really comical is the fact that if i worked for a sports service, what good would it do for that service if am not promoting it?
Truth is all sports services are complete garbage and anybody that pays for a service, should have their heads checked out. Your the only guy in this thread who is lined up with a sports service, so really you should be the one to leave scammer.
At first i thought you might be sam, but then i realized that you couldnt be sam because you are actually to dumb to own your own business, your just one of sams flunkies he sends out to the messageboards in order to get software sales.

Oh i will be waiting for you to explain how am scamming anybody on this site.
Truth is your boss closed this thread, byb taking down the moneyline system from his website. He didnt want people to see the real record and figured he better get it off the site right away. So thank him, but you already knew that.
Just know this fraud, i will be watching you for future systems that can hurt young gamblers. I just want to do my part in helping them so they dont have to learn the hard way like i did early on in my life. Guys like you are very dangerous to them.

you never told us how those big -150 favorite losers tasted today. heck by now am sure your used to eating -150 losers, because thats all your system picks anyways.

[Formulawiz]

seriously do you even bet? How many more times are you going to keep beating this dead horse about how you went 60 percent in bases? Going 60 percent in bases means jack shit, when you are laying heavy juice everyday.
Really everytime you keep talking about this 60 percent you make a complete fool of yourself and it shows how little you know about gambling. Now if you were hitting 60 percent in football laying -110 or even -105 on the plays i would be saluting you, but 60 percent in bases is nothing when 90 percent of your plays carry a juice over 150. It doesnt matter if you play all the games for differnt amounts like you say you do, the majority of your plays are still over -150 juice.
Also you said that betting favorites was the way to go, then why the hell would you bet more on the dogs then the favorites. You see you talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Also the sports trends system didnot say anywhere to bet the system plays less on the favorites then the dogs, so quit making up more bs.
Like i said am gonna go back from the first of the year and calculate all the plays that you posted and am pretty sure that the system will be in the minus column. The sports trends heavy favorite system is a complete scam and thats why your boy sam took it down, he didnt want anybody seeing the true record, because then nobody might by his software.

Scammer, jackass go back to your sports service you mental midget. The people here should thank you for ending this thread.

[bobby29]

Scammer, jackass go back to your sports service you mental midget. The people here should thank you for ending this thread.

you keep calling me a scammer but just like you have done all year in this thread, you refuse to answer questions.
What and who exactly am i scamming? Keep posting this because everybody is getting a good first hand look at what a nutjob you truly are. Dont be mad that i exposed you in this thread, amybe you can find a new website to go hang out at.
Your the only scammer in this thread and your the only one who constantly promotes a sports service. This one called for a 5 roller

[Formulawiz]

you keep calling me a scammer but just like you have done all year in this thread, you refuse to answer questions.
What and who exactly am i scamming? Keep posting this because everybody is getting a good first hand look at what a nutjob you truly are. Dont be mad that i exposed you in this thread, amybe you can find a new website to go hang out at.
Your the only scammer in this thread and your the only one who constantly promotes a sports service. This one called for a 5 roller

Scammer, jackass go back to your sports service you mental midget. The people here should thank you for ending this thread.

[bobby29]

Scammer, jackass go back to your sports service you mental midget. The people here should thank you for ending this thread.

keep making the same post all you want, just shows everybody on this site what a complete jerkoff you are. You never answered anybodys questions all year, why start now.
Like i said your the only scammer on this thread with your constant promoting sports trends. Isnt there a special service promtions forum for scammers like you post in.
Just remember little mam, i will be here watching you, to make sure you dont blow anymore smoke up young gamblers butt. Cant wait to keep track of your football plays, should be fun watching you play favorite after favorite each week
I hope nobody here buys another thing from your boss, for pulling the ml system from the website. Hes the guy who ended it, not me. If he was that afraid of somebody keeping a record of the plays each day, that right there shows you he has something to hide.
SBR is a good forum and they certainly dont need guys like you scamming bettors with your bosses junk systems.
Let me read you a post Justin7 made over in the think tank

"A system is any type of betting that doesn't care what the spread or money line is. If you follow this, you will lose. Please don't clutter up the Think Tank with losing systems."
That sounds exactly like the system you were here trying to promote, one that doesnt care about moneylines or units.

man for a guy who didnt have an extra 5 minutes a day to keep a record, you sure find all kinds of time to keep replying back to my posts at all hours of the day. Now why is that? You should have just kept a record.

[ShivaBowl]

Nice work girls, if you ask me, your all mental midgets.

I have talked with Sam at Sportrends many times about his Systems and he is a class act and a good man.
Sorry, I should have kept in mind that Sportrends good name, was associated with this thread.
MLB 2010 Premium Internet Service 142 - 86 ( + 27.6 Units )
BOL

[HoulihansTX]

Yea it was a good thing while it lasted.

The bickering was childish, and really wasnt about the system. People didnt like Formula, and formula didnt like others. Conflict, and then boom no more systems.

I'm just wondering why bobby is still posting about a system that doesnt exist anymore?

[ShivaBowl]

Quote: 07/11/2010

Originally Posted by ShivaBowl
WIZ so we have a play on the pitcher, that has pitched at least 20 innings.
With the M/L System, The New System and TPR.
Perfect ex PHI is a play today, with all system?

WIZ
Thats correct.

[ShivaBowl]

yea it was a good thing while it lasted.

The bickering was childish, and really wasnt about the system. People didnt like formula, and formula didnt like others. Conflict, and then boom no more systems.

i'm just wondering why bobby is still posting about a system that doesnt exist anymore?

no life ?

[bobby29]

Quote: 07/11/2010

Originally Posted by ShivaBowl
WIZ so we have a play on the pitcher, that has pitched at least 20 innings.
With the M/L System, The New System and TPR.
Perfect ex PHI is a play today, with all system?

WIZ
Thats correct.

not according to the rules posted on sports trend website. they say both pitchers need 20 innings.

When comparing our projected money lines to the oddsmaker's posted lines there needs to be at least a 25-cent differential or overlay in which the oddsmakers ML's are moving in the opposite direction to our lines.
Make sure each pitcher has pitched at least 20 innings.
Never bet on a team favorite in which you must lay over -175.
Never bet on teams that are on a 2 game or more losing streak.
Never bet against a team on a 2 game winning streak or more.
Try to stay away from teams traveling long distances in their first game

[bobby29]

no life ?

more life then you will ever have pal. Am posting because that fraud keeps making posts to me.
Lastly until i go back and do a complete record check of the system from day one, this thread will be alive.