New Baseball Power Rating System

[bobby29]

I have asked you nicely to stop providing incorrect and phoney records. Your not a savior and no one needs your help. All the young players here are doing just fine. First of all the ML system YTD is well over 60% and not 7-5. If you continue to annoy everyone I will have you removed from our thread.

I have told you a bunch of times, iam keeping a record of the system from aug 9th until the end of the season. I dont care what your record before that, because we have already gone over this about your 60 percent record up until aug 9th. It might very well be 60 percent but the bottomline is after paying your high juice, your not up much money.

Am sorry this bothers you, but i have asked you everyday to post a record with units won -lost along with lines, but you refuse to do it. I have every right to post in this thread as am not doing anything against the forum rules,but you are with your constant harassing me. Only reason your mad is because you want to be able to tell everybody you posted a great record, but forgot to calculate the actual units. If you take over posting a daily record i will stop posting. Have a nice day

Like i said the record is from aug 9th on and is 100 percent correct. ytd record 7-5 +12 dollars

[bobby29]

YTD RECORD FROM AUG 9TH 2010 IS 7-5 +12
If anybody needs a record of the system before that date, contact formula.

[Formulawiz]

I have told you a bunch of times, iam keeping a record of the system from aug 9th until the end of the season. I dont care what your record before that, because we have already gone over this about your 60 percent record up until aug 9th. It might very well be 60 percent but the bottomline is after paying your high juice, your not up much money.

Am sorry this bothers you, but i have asked you everyday to post a record with units won -lost along with lines, but you refuse to do it. I have every right to post in this thread as am not doing anything against the forum rules,but you are with your constant harassing me. Only reason your mad is because you want to be able to tell everybody you posted a great record, but forgot to calculate the actual units. If you take over posting a daily record i will stop posting. Have a nice day

Like i said the record is from aug 9th on and is 100 percent correct. ytd record 7-5 +12 dollars

Unfortunately this thread is not here to cater to you. Its obvious to us all you have very little handicapping skills or money management savvy. Here you are telling us all we only made $12.00 using the ML system over the past 4 days. You still are clueless that everyones betting style is different and therefore we all cant come up with a comparable unit value. Look all your doing is making a fool of yourself. Anyone who touts we should wager the same amount of money on a prohibitive fav as compared to a smaller line fav has no business posting anything anywhere. Do us all a favor and go somewhere else, we dont need your guru views.

[HoulihansTX]

8/13

S/A System

ARZ (No Play >-119)
FLA (No Play >-163)
Mets (No Play <+107) I really like the Mets today, but Philly on win streak
Braves (No Play >-175)
Balty (No Play <+191)
Tex (No Play >-175)
STL (No Play >-175)
CWS (No PLay >-136)
NYY (No Play >-175)
Oak (No Play <+161)

[bobby29]

Unfortunately this thread is not here to cater to you. Its obvious to us all you have very little handicapping skills or money management savvy. Here you are telling us all we only made $12.00 using the ML system over the past 4 days. You still are clueless that everyones betting style is different and therefore we all cant come up with a comparable unit value. Look all your doing is making a fool of yourself. Anyone who touts we should wager the same amount of money on a prohibitive fav as compared to a smaller line fav has no business posting anything anywhere. Do us all a favor and go somewhere else, we dont need your guru views.

Formula, listen i dont care what you think. Your the only one who is making a fool of himself. All year people have been asking you to post an actual record of units won -lost and you refuse to do it, because you said it takes to much time up, yet you keep managing to find the time to keep attacking me. Why dont you use that time to post a daily record, hell it only takes me about 2 minutes to do it. If the system is so great, you should not be so afraid to keep a record. The system will speak for itself.
Lastly i dont want to hear this bs, that your betting more on certain games then other games, because thats not what systems are about. Systems create picks and all the picks are basically equal. You can keep talking all you want, but bottomline is the system from aug 9th until today is 7-5 +12 dollars. Am keeping this record until the end of the season. Its funny there has been a few people in this thread, who are happy that am keeping a record of the plays, you seem to be the only one who is afraid.
I gave you the choice many times, post a daily record and i will stop posting. It wont take you long to post the actual plays every night after the games start with a actual line and how many supposed differnt units you are putting on each game. So its up to you pal. Have a nice day

[EXhoosier10]

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[bobby29]

Alright, lets try to reach some common ground here.
Nobody bets equal amounts on favorites of -175 vs. favs of -125. We bet to win the same amount. Formula, if you don't bet to win the same amount per favorite, will you recommend a better strategy for him and us?

For example, the ML plays today are

Arizona @ -105
Florida @ -130
Philadelphia @ -125
Milwaukee @ -105

How mucha re you betting on each game?

sorry exhoosier, if you dont bet the games to win the same amounts, then you are defeating the purpose of a system. Perfect example would be is if you put only 50 bucks on all the plays over -150 and then put 100 bucks on plays -150 and under. You could very well get destroyed if all the -150 plays and up won for 50 bucks, while the 100 dollar plays all lost.
You have to make your bets to win the same amounts or you defeat the purpose of a system, so dont let anybody tell you other wise. Remember when the system picks the games, it doesnt say a -175 play is weaker then a -125 play. The system creates all the plays the same. At least this system does. So until sports trends says how many units should be bet on each play, based on the moneyline, you have to treat all the plays equal.

[bobby29]

Alright, lets try to reach some common ground here.
Nobody bets equal amounts on favorites of -175 vs. favs of -125. We bet to win the same amount. Formula, if you don't bet to win the same amount per favorite, will you recommend a better strategy for him and us?

For example, the ML plays today are

Arizona @ -105
Florida @ -130
Philadelphia @ -125
Milwaukee @ -105

How mucha re you betting on each game?

Hoosier, he will never tell you that because then he cant claim the system is making tons of cash, if we all see the record. Hes doing the same thing i see all over the net, people posting amazing win -loss records in baseball, but they are leaving out a unit tally, which is the most important thing in betting baseball.

[Formulawiz]

Alright, lets try to reach some common ground here.
Nobody bets equal amounts on favorites of -175 vs. favs of -125. We bet to win the same amount. Formula, if you don't bet to win the same amount per favorite, will you recommend a better strategy for him and us?

For example, the ML plays today are

Arizona @ -105
Florida @ -130
Philadelphia @ -125
Milwaukee @ -105

How mucha re you betting on each game?

May I ask what is the purpose of a handicapping system. We would all agree it aids the handicapper to uncover a team where there is value or an advantage. There is no way a handicapping system will aid in money management. My money management has no filters since it is not set in stone and would be different then yours. One common sense filter I can provide to you is Don't bet the same amount of money on a prohibitive fav as compared to one with a lower ML. There are also times where I may wager differently on 2 games where the fav's may have the same ML. I feel money management should be left up to the handicapper.
As I expressed previously, baseball is a different sport due to the fact your betting a ML as compared to a line such as basketball or football. The only measure we really have to evaluate the ML system is by its win/loss records and can be verified very easily.
It behooves me that you have a person like bobby who has no clue and makes rediculous assumptions. If I were a bookie I would love to take his action.

[bobby29]

May I ask what is the purpose of a handicapping system. We would all agree it aids the handicapper to uncover a team where there is value or an advantage. There is no way a handicapping system will aid in money management. My money management has no filters since it is not set in stone and would be different then yours. One common sense filter I can provide to you is Don't bet the same amount of money on a prohibitive fav as compared to one with a lower ML. There are also times where I may wager differently on 2 games where the fav's may have the same ML. I feel money management should be left up to the handicapper.
As I expressed previously, baseball is a different sport due to the fact your betting a ML as compared to a line such as basketball or football. The only measure we really have to evaluate the ML system is by its win/loss records and can be verified very easily.
It behooves me that you have a person like bobby who has no clue and makes rediculous assumptions. If I were a bookie I would love to take his action.

one of the funniest posts ever.
I doubt you would want to take my action chump, because over the course of 30 years i have learned how to handicap and bet.
Like i said am keeping a record of this system, which by the way doesnt belong to you, until the end of the year. I dont care if your up 5 million units betting with the system, am here to post an accurate record of what sports trends system does for the year from aug 9th on. So get over it.
Amazing you got all this time to keep coming back to this thread all day long, but you dont have an extra 5 minutes everyday to post a record. Uhm i wonder why that is?

[Formulawiz]

one of the funniest posts ever.
I doubt you would want to take my action chump, because over the course of 30 years i have learned how to handicap and bet.
Like i said am keeping a record of this system, which by the way doesnt belong to you, until the end of the year. I dont care if your up 5 million units betting with the system, am here to post an accurate record of what sports trends system does for the year from aug 9th on. So get over it.
Amazing you got all this time to keep coming back to this thread all day long, but you dont have an extra 5 minutes everyday to post a record. Uhm i wonder why that is?

I know its one of the funniest post I made because it shows your ignorance.

[bobby29]

I know its one of the funniest post I made because it shows your ignorance.

since your here right now, why not post the plays and how many units your playing on the games tonight, that way we all can see ahead of time what the final plays are? I know too time consuming yet, you have the time to keep making posts to me.
Sports trends moneyline system, does not say a -175 play is worth less then a -125 play. Thats a fact my friend

[Formulawiz]

since your here right now, why not post the plays and how many units your playing on the games tonight, that way we all can see ahead of time what the final plays are? I know too time consuming yet, you have the time to keep making posts to me.
Sports trends moneyline system, does not say a -175 play is worth less then a -125 play. Thats a fact my friend

Why dont you post your plays along with your amounts. I am sure we all will get a good laugh when you lay the same amount of money on the NYY as you will on other games. Go ahead, show us how ignorant you are.

[Cranium]

Formula,

If this about making money as you have stated so many times why not share with us how you bet? If you have made more than 12 units, tell us how to make more. Isn't the purpose to beat your bookie?

I don't understand why you have to be so secretive about how you wager on baseball? If you're not willing to share, I believe Bobby is correct in using a single unit and we can judge the ML system for its merit.

Just my two cents..

Cranium

[bobby29]

Formula,

If this about making money as you have stated so many times why not share with us how you bet? If you have made more than 12 units, tell us how to make more. Isn't the purpose to beat your bookie?

I don't understand why you have to be so secretive about how you wager on baseball? If you're not willing to share, I believe Bobby is correct in using a single unit and we can judge the ML system for its merit.

Just my two cents..

Cranium

Bravo another person who is saying thru this fraud. The guy just posts plays with no lines or units, then says the system is kicking ass. Go over to sports trends and read the system yoruself, this system doesnt say a -175 play is worth less then a -125 play. The system treats all plays the same, thus you have to play each play to win 1 unit and thats the way am keeping the record.
Formula just wants to say at the end of the year the system hit 60 percent, but wont say it broke out even or lost money because of all the juice he laid. Good luck with your plays

[bobby29]

Why dont you post your plays along with your amounts. I am sure we all will get a good laugh when you lay the same amount of money on the NYY as you will on other games. Go ahead, show us how ignorant you are.

lmfaooooooooooooo you have more time to make posts to me, but you dont have 5 minutes to post the plays with units, now that is funny.
Your a fraud and by the end of the baseball season everybody else will know it.

[bobby29]

Formula,

If this about making money as you have stated so many times why not share with us how you bet? If you have made more than 12 units, tell us how to make more. Isn't the purpose to beat your bookie?

I don't understand why you have to be so secretive about how you wager on baseball? If you're not willing to share, I believe Bobby is correct in using a single unit and we can judge the ML system for its merit.

Just my two cents..

Cranium

I almost forgot Cranium, the system has made 12 dollars since aug 9th, not 12 units. Its .12 units
But formula will tell you thou, he made a 1 million units since aug 9th using the system. I will keep the record everday and then you can be the judge yourself. You dont have to believe me or formula, we will let the numbers do the talking.

[bobby29]

have a nice day guys

[Cranium]

I'm not saying Formula is any way a fraud Bobby. I'm just asking for transparency and insight into how he makes money. If he's making more than I'm hoping he'll provide some insight to those less fortunate.

[bobby29]

I'm not saying Formula is any way a fraud Bobby. I'm just asking for transparency and insight into how he makes money. If he's making more than I'm hoping he'll provide some insight to those less fortunate.

you are wasting your time waiting for formula to post the lines and units on the games. It just wont happen, because then everybody will see the system isnt as good as he makes it out to be.

[Formulawiz]

I'm not saying Formula is any way a fraud Bobby. I'm just asking for transparency and insight into how he makes money. If he's making more than I'm hoping he'll provide some insight to those less fortunate.

Cranium, with all due respect the purpose of our thread is to give out plays and hope we are successful in making money by utilizing several handicapping tools. We are not here to discuss my own or anyone elses money management ideas. This is private to each individual. So far the ML system has made me quite a bit of money last season and continues to do so this season. I dont have to explain anything to an idiot who has no idea as to what he is talking about. If this idiot cant make money with a system hitting over 60% YTD then he has no business betting and leading people down a path to the poor house. I dont want to hear this jackass insinuating he is the threads savior. If he is such a good handicapper, let him share his money management with everyone. I am sure he wont because he will demonstrate what a fool he really is. As I mentioned previously, anyone who bets the same amount on prohibitive favorites should go home and take up bowling. If someone wants to know about money management they should start their own thread for this purpose. This is not the place.
I have been on several threads here on SBR and I cant find anyone who gives out their own personal betting styles.

[EXhoosier10]

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[callmejrk1]

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thanks and have a greatnight

[bobby29]

Cranium, with all due respect the purpose of our thread is to give out plays and hope we are successful in making money by utilizing several handicapping tools. We are not here to discuss my own or anyone elses money management ideas. This is private to each individual. So far the ML system has made me quite a bit of money last season and continues to do so this season. I dont have to explain anything to an idiot who has no idea as to what he is talking about. If this idiot cant make money with a system hitting over 60% YTD then he has no business betting and leading people down a path to the poor house. I dont want to hear this jackass insinuating he is the threads savior. If he is such a good handicapper, let him share his money management with everyone. I am sure he wont because he will demonstrate what a fool he really is. As I mentioned previously, anyone who bets the same amount on prohibitive favorites should go home and take up bowling. If someone wants to know about money management they should start their own thread for this purpose. This is not the place.
I have been on several threads here on SBR and I cant find anyone who gives out their own personal betting styles.

Formula, stop blowing smoke up peoples butts with this 60 percent bs. You cant make money hitting 60 percent if your average lay price is -145 a game, so really stop your bs.
Nobody gives a crap how much you bet on games and dont want your personal betting account. All people want you to do is post the plays, put a line next to the plays with how many units should be bet on the games.
Also this is sports trends system, so stop making it out to be yours like you own it, unless you indeed are sam from sports trends.
There is no where in the system rules over at sports trends does it say plays should be bet for differnt amounts.
Just posting big favs on this site and then saying how its winning so much money is pure bs. Maybe you can fool young bettors who dont know any better, but your certainly not gonna fool guys like me who have been betting for more years then you have probably been alive. By the end of baseball season, this system will be stuck big bucks and everybody will get to see it first hand, how you blew smoke up their butts.
Nobody here is asking for a money management lesson, what they want to see is how exactly you are betting this system with an actual record of lines and units bet. This is has nothing to do with how much your betting on the games, nobody cares. We all just want to see the break down of the games every night, yet you wont do it because your afraid the system will be exposed as a losing bet.
Like i said sports trends system does not say to play the games for differnt amounts and these plays are their system.

[Formulawiz]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-h...ere-p2000.html

I am sure there are some people running threads that give out unit plays, but what are these plays based on and why would someone depend on unit values on each game without backup. This is not money management, instead you have someone guessing what the unit value should be. Our thread is entirely different in that we are trying to evaluate and continually improve these handicapping systems and make money in the process. By the way you never answered any of my other posts with regard to money management and how this idiot tells people to bet the same on all plays including prohibitive favorites. Should this idiot be lecturing anyone?

[bobby29]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-h...ere-p2000.html

for him to sit here and say other people dont post plays with actual units shows what a complete fraud he is. Good handicappers always post plays with units on the games and they keep an honest record everyday. Only the scammer wanna bes throw out a bunch of high priced plays, dont keep a record and then say the plays are winning mega bucks.
Whats really funny is how he keeps talking about this 60 percent figure the system is hitting, yet he fails to talk about how the average lay price is like -145 a game. Anybody that knows anything about math knows that they need a higher win percentage then 60 percent to win money laying -145 a game. The math just doesnt lie

[bobby29]

I am sure there are some people running threads that give out unit plays, but what are these plays based on and why would someone depend on unit values on each game without backup. This is not money management, instead you have someone guessing what the unit value should be. Our thread is entirely different in that we are trying to evaluate and continually improve these handicapping systems and make money in the process. By the way you never answered any of my other posts with regard to money management and how this idiot tells people to bet the same on all plays including prohibitive favorites. Should this idiot be lecturing anyone?

The system from sports trends does not say to play the game for differnt amounts, so quit saying you are supposed to play the games for differnt amounts because thats an outright lie. When you have a a system like sports trends which just spits out plays, yes you are supposed to play all the games for the same amount in order to win equal units. With systems you dont want to be betting 50 bucks on one play and 100 bucks on another play, because you defeat the purpose of a system which just spits out plays. really go learn something about gambling before you try preaching to people. Your the one who is giving bad advice out and really should stop it, because your gonna cause people to lose money.
And another thing you sound like a broken record with all your excuses for not posting a daily record.
The object is to try and win 1 unit off each game, thats why you need equal bet amounts.

If you truly were out to help people make money, then you would show then each day how many units should be bet on each play, then all these people can decide how much an actual unit is worth to them. some people might bet 50 bucks a unit, some might bet 10 and others might bet 100, but you need to tell them what the units should be on the plays since you keep saying the plays should be bet for differnt amounts.

You lost all credibilty when you said the sportsbooks were reading your posts and moving the lines, so there wouldnt be plays. That was probably one of the funniest posts i have ever read in all my years gambling. Yes the books are deathly afraid of your big favorite system, lollllllll

[Formulawiz]

for him to sit here and say other people dont post plays with actual units shows what a complete fraud he is. Good handicappers always post plays with units on the games and they keep an honest record everyday. Only the scammer wanna bes throw out a bunch of high priced plays, dont keep a record and then say the plays are winning mega bucks.
Whats really funny is how he keeps talking about this 60 percent figure the system is hitting, yet he fails to talk about how the average lay price is like -145 a game. Anybody that knows anything about math knows that they need a higher win percentage then 60 percent to win money laying -145 a game. The math just doesnt lie

Your the only idiot who states the average wager for the ML system is -145. This may be your ML average which I am sure it is, and this proves how stupid you are and then you have the nerve to call yourself a good handicapper. Shame on you and by the way take up bowling, you may have a better chance at that. You are by far the dumbest idiot I have seen on SBR YTD. You make no sense and you are a joke.
By the way someone just emailed me and told me you are a scammer who is working for a sports service who is just trying to make sportrends look bad. I should have known that. Get lost we dont want lowlifes like you here!!!

[bobby29]

Your the only idiot who states the average wager for the ML system is -145. This may be your ML average which I am sure it is, and this proves how stupid you are and then you have the nerve to call yourself a good handicapper. Shame on you and by the way take up bowling, you may have a better chance at that. You are by far the dumbest idiot I have seen on SBR YTD. You make no sense and you are a joke.
By the way someone just emailed me and told me you are a scammer who is working for a sports service who is just trying to make sportrends look bad. I should have known that. Get lost we dont want lowlifes like you here!!!

Lmfaoooooooooooooooooooo am working for a sports service. Nice try pal, i wouldnt associate myself with any sports service on this planet but really nice try. Reaching for anything now. If i was you i would stop, because every post you make, your making a fool of yourself. Me associated with a sports service
I havent tried to make sports trends look bad in any of my threads, all i have been doing is trying to get you to post a honest record everyday, which you wont do even thou me and others have asked for it. Still dont know what your afraid of.

Hey dopey the -145 is the average lay price of all your picks combined using this system I know this is to difficult for you to understand and will try to make this as simple as possible. If you added up the lines on all the plays this system has picked since the start of the year, you would see the average lay price per game is -145.
Tell your imaginary friend to email you some more lies. Nobody even knows me here and yet you have somebody emailing you that i work for a service, I still cant stop laughing. Your a fraud and everybody on this site will know it when am done exposing you. Your a danger to bettors and their bankrolls because you know nothing about gambling. I gotta go have a drink and laugh some more over that sports service comment. You do crack me up with your lies.
Hows the night going, looks like your gonna take a hit tonight, but i know you won a million units on some other plays

[Formulawiz]

for him to sit here and say other people dont post plays with actual units shows what a complete fraud he is. Good handicappers always post plays with units on the games and they keep an honest record everyday. Only the scammer wanna bes throw out a bunch of high priced plays, dont keep a record and then say the plays are winning mega bucks.
Whats really funny is how he keeps talking about this 60 percent figure the system is hitting, yet he fails to talk about how the average lay price is like -145 a game. Anybody that knows anything about math knows that they need a higher win percentage then 60 percent to win money laying -145 a game. The math just doesnt lie

Get out of here you scammer. We dont need people like you who work for a sports service and try to belittle us and sportrends

[Formulawiz]

ML system went 0-3

Plays later today

[Formulawiz]

ML plays based on early lines
CIN

[HoulihansTX]

8/13
S/A System
ARZ (No Play >-119) (-105) No Play
FLA (No Play >-163) (-130) L
Mets (No Play <+107) I really like the Mets today, but Philly on win streak
Braves (No Play >-175) (-170) W
Balty (No Play <+191) (+185) W
Tex (No Play >-175) (-130) W
STL (No Play >-175) (-220) No Play
CWS (No PLay >-136) (-145) No Play
NYY (No Play >-175) (-180) No Play
Oak (No Play <+161) (+140) NO Play

8/13 (3-1) +2.55Units

Corrected fellas.

[shock11]

keep up the good work

[HoulihansTX]

8/14

S/A System

San Diego (No Play >-138)
CWS (No Play >-144)
Seattle (No Play <+105)
NYY (No Play >-175)
Minny (No Play >-125)
Cincy (No Play >-175)
Boston (No Play <+105) Boston on losing streak
Colorado (No Play >-141) **
Toronto (No Play >-161) ( This will be a pretty big play for me.)

** Colorado's Pitcher has 35IP, but only 14 are in a starting role. Proceed with caution.