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  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #211
    Is Pelfrey done?
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    • ploben
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-09-09
      • 527

      #212
      Originally posted by coreygman
      so on your guys books, do you have a lot in the + on the Run Line when its - on the Money Line? Today I noticed my Mets bet was even, when you got +100 on the Run Line
      It depends on a few factors but I was a little surprised to see the NYM @ -200 ML and EV for the RL. Take a look at the line for BOS tonight...-165 ML and EV RL. The Sox are obviously an offensive threat so they respect the multi-run win for the sox. As it is now, the Mets just left bases loaded in the 6th, so a multi-run win was correctly capped by Vegas...if they even win this game SU.
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      • ploben
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-09-09
        • 527

        #213
        Damn Machine...KC to win it all? Best of luck man but damn...throwing money away. How bout you give me the 100 and ill let you kick me in the balls...you'll enjoy it more
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        • Machine Choice
          SBR MVP
          • 12-12-08
          • 3997

          #214
          Originally posted by ploben
          Damn Machine...KC to win it all? Best of luck man but damn...throwing money away. How bout you give me the 100 and ill let you kick me in the balls...you'll enjoy it more
          Reminds of comments we might have heard about Tampa last April. The Royals have pitching. Pitching makes anything possible.
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          • ploben
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-09-09
            • 527

            #215
            Originally posted by Machine Choice
            Reminds of comments we might have heard about Tampa last April. The Royals have pitching. Pitching makes anything possible.
            True but the Rays had so much young talent...sooner or later that talent will bloom and you'll get your title. I don't know about KC this year. Way too much talent elsewhere in the MLB.

            None the less...Good luck
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            • ploben
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-09-09
              • 527

              #216
              Boogity boogity boogity boys, let's go chasin'
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              • Machine Choice
                SBR MVP
                • 12-12-08
                • 3997

                #217
                Looks like your play for tomorrow is going to be Boston or St Louis
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                • ploben
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-09-09
                  • 527

                  #218
                  As a die hard Red Sox fan I hope to God it's not BOS tomorrow because they have looked hooooooooorible. Their next win might be only by 1 run.
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                  • aneurysm00
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-07-08
                    • 230

                    #219
                    Looks like Texas to me. (-145 ML at Pinnacle)

                    Red Sox, Cardinals, Royals and Braves are all a very close second on the ML. (around -138 to -143)

                    You could choose Texas based on the criteria that the O/U is set at a high number which gives a lesser likelihood of having a close game.
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                    • ebbearsfb1
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-07-08
                      • 18815

                      #220
                      i got royals at - 150
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                      • cpscincy
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 02-03-09
                        • 8

                        #221
                        looks like braves ml will be the highest at -155. strange thing is boston is at -150 with a runline of +105...braves runline is +140. volstad vs vazquez to me is a tossup and i am a braves fan...wont be surprised to see florida taken this one so i might lean towards boston
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                        • ploben
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-09-09
                          • 527

                          #222
                          Bookmaker: BOS and ATL ML @ -153. BOS RL @ +105 and ATL RL @ +140. I do not like how BOS has been playing as of late and neither do they so are they due for a breakout game?

                          What's everything think?
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                          • ploben
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-09-09
                            • 527

                            #223
                            According to covers.com STL actually opened at the highest @ -160 above everyone else. KC was second @ -155 and then BOS @ -150.
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                            • jellobiafra
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-08-09
                              • 6291

                              #224
                              The Cardinals opened yesterday as the slightly biggest favorite on BetJam. For a time it was the Royals and Rangers. Now it's the Braves followed ever so closely by the Red Sox.

                              I don't really like any of those teams on the R/L. I really don't like the Braves and Red Sox. I don't even think the Braves win their game and the Red Sox can't score to save their life right now.

                              I've thought it over and decided to go my own way on this thing from now on fellas. I don't think it's that important that you pick the biggest ML favorite each night, as long as you pick a heavy favorite. I've come to the conclusion that it's more important to me to have the option of hedging this bet with a M/L wager. So I am going to be actually involving some handicapping into this. I'm going to pick the team out of the top few favorites that I think has a good shot at scoring some runs and also offers a good price on the R/L. For today I've chosen to back the Brewers. They are facing Bronson Arroyo who I believe still has some health question marks. He gave up 8 hits and 6ER vs. the Mets last time out. I think the Brewers could touch him up. MIL is pitching Parra - a LH and the Reds are not as strong vs LH pitching. Best of all this wager offers +155 odds, so there's an easy hedge involved.

                              I'm not going to be posting my picks here because the last thing anybody should do is tail me. I posted this one just to give you an idea of my thought process on this decision. I think the Cardinals might be a strong play but they are only +115 R/L. I also think the Rangers could be a good move, but the way Baltimore is hitting right now I didn't want to bet against them.

                              I'll still be popping in here from time to time to see how things are coming along. You guys know how the picks are to be made if you are playing these strictly by the book. You don't need someone to post them evey day for you. You are all capable of making your own decisions on these. You have the foundation of this system. You understand the principle behind it. Use it as you see fit. Go forth and prosper.

                              Best of luck to everyone.
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                              • ploben
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-09-09
                                • 527

                                #225
                                I agree with your views on the Sox and Braves. I feel the BOS line is extreamly inflated due to their capability and how they have recently performed. ATL's recent performance against a horrible WAS team is a poor indicator on this team's capacity. Last time Vazquez pitched, against PHI...well...you know.

                                Anyone else? Time to weigh in.
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                                • coreygman
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-18-09
                                  • 325

                                  #226
                                  Just checked my book, It has the redsox as the favorite. For now I am going to stick with how the system is set, and chose the biggest favorite. Thats they way screamin had it figured out, so might as well give it a try.

                                  So how do my lines on my book compare to yours? I use 2betez.

                                  Team Pitcher M Line Total Run Line
                                  Apr 14 919 BOS D MATSUZAK-R -155 o8-115 -1½+110

                                  Here are what some others show for me right now
                                  9:40 PM 905 STL CARPENTER -R -140 o9-105 -1½+115
                                  8:10 PM 918 KAN K DAVIES -R -150 u9-105 -1½+140
                                  7:10 PM 902 ATL J VAZQUEZ -R -140 u9EV -1½+150
                                  8:05 PM 914 TEX B MCCARTHY-R -145 u11EV -1½+130
                                  8:05 PM 904 MIL M PARRA -L -135 u9-105 -1½+155
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                                  • owll52
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 02-07-09
                                    • 131

                                    #227
                                    Atl are highest ML @ Betjam

                                    902Atlanta Braves
                                    J Vazquez -R -1½ +140 -148 Action
                                    -148 Listed Pitchers
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                                    • ploben
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-09-09
                                      • 527

                                      #228
                                      covers.com/sports/mlb/baseball-matchups.aspx

                                      Each matchup will show different books' lines.
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                                      • coreygman
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 01-18-09
                                        • 325

                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by ploben
                                        covers.com/sports/mlb/baseball-matchups.aspx

                                        Each matchup will show different books' lines.
                                        Thanks for the link, I don't even see mine on there! lol
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                                        • ploben
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-09-09
                                          • 527

                                          #230
                                          Some companies own multiple books and the lines are the same. Not sure who owns your book or if it is standalone.

                                          I think I am riding with STL today. I feel it's the best value for the RL.
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                                          • coreygman
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 01-18-09
                                            • 325

                                            #231
                                            So I got my bet in, on the Red Sox....

                                            Chase Day 2 (starting bet $30.00, but lost yesterday so now bet $60.00 to get my $30.00 back an win for the day)

                                            MLB STRAIGHT BET [919] BOS -1½+110 ( D MATSUZAK-R / D EVELAND -L ) Risk 60.00 / To Win 66.00
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                                            • bsebal7
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 04-03-09
                                              • 71

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by jellobiafra
                                              bsebal7,

                                              Try these that ScreaminPain posted.


                                              REF: POST #55
                                              Screamin,

                                              The Runline chase opened for me...but the -1rl formula spreadsheet did not. Do you have a spreadsheet with the formula embedded in it for calculating the -1RL that would work in OFFICE XP?
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                                              • ScreaminPain
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-17-08
                                                • 246

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by bsebal7
                                                Screamin,

                                                The Runline chase opened for me...but the -1rl formula spreadsheet did not. Do you have a spreadsheet with the formula embedded in it for calculating the -1RL that would work in OFFICE XP?
                                                If you're using Excel 97-2000, I think this will work. This is the calculator only. Once you get familiar with the calc. you can reproduce the results yourself. This is simply a handy tool.


                                                Good Luck on your action...
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                                                • bsebal7
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 04-03-09
                                                  • 71

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by ScreaminPain
                                                  If you're using Excel 97-2000, I think this will work. This is the calculator only. Once you get familiar with the calc. you can reproduce the results yourself. This is simply a handy tool.


                                                  Good Luck on your action...

                                                  Screamin,

                                                  Thank you sir....it worked perfectly!!!
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                                                  • jellobiafra
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-08-09
                                                    • 6291

                                                    #235
                                                    That calculator is handy. Here's a simple formula to use if your book gives you the option of placing wagers in the "amount to win" format.




                                                    Originally posted by jellobiafra

                                                    Place a Run Line wager where the
                                                    amount wagered PLUS the amount to win is equal to the total amount you are chasing.

                                                    Then place a
                                                    Money Line wager where the amount to win equals the amount of the Run Line wager you placed.
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                                                    • cpscincy
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-03-09
                                                      • 8

                                                      #236
                                                      Hotlanta -1.5 +140 booked
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                                                      • ploben
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-09-09
                                                        • 527

                                                        #237
                                                        GL all...looks to be a spread out day for picks on the system. Hope we all come out the other side in the same boat.

                                                        I'd be interested to see what others booked for today's system bet.

                                                        cpscincy - ATL
                                                        jello - MIL
                                                        corey - BOS
                                                        ploben - STL
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                                                        • jellobiafra
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 03-08-09
                                                          • 6291

                                                          #238
                                                          Yeah, this will be a nice little test case. Some of us will win, some will lose, some may push. Whatever happens, a lot of us will be on our own starting tomorrow - either on an A bet, a B bet, a C bet, or off this this train completely. Maybe I'll cut losses if MIL doesn't cover and start all over again with an A bet following this thing just like it's mapped out - biggest M/L favorite at open. I doubt it though. The pull of that M/L hedge option is just too strong for me. I think it'll allow for a lot less risk through an entire season of this.

                                                          Regardless of how tonight plays out, this should be interesting. Personally, I hope all these favorites roll and make it easy on us. BOL.
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                                                          • bsebal7
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 04-03-09
                                                            • 71

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by ploben
                                                            GL all...looks to be a spread out day for picks on the system. Hope we all come out the other side in the same boat.

                                                            I'd be interested to see what others booked for today's system bet.

                                                            cpscincy - ATL
                                                            jello - MIL
                                                            corey - BOS
                                                            ploben - STL

                                                            On Atlanta for the chase.... I also have plays on Texas, Mets (tom), Milwaukee, and Texas to win at least 1 game at home in their current series. A Home Favorite Chase essentially.... so Good luck fellas on the plays today!!! As Jello has stated....play small...last year's results don't warrant this years success!!!
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                                                            • do5000
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 06-06-08
                                                              • 853

                                                              #240
                                                              i'm on ATL tonight, sticking with the system. certainly dont love them to beat FLA, but i'm dying to see if this method would work without any capping, just by the numbers.

                                                              GL!
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                                                              • jellobiafra
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-08-09
                                                                • 6291

                                                                #241
                                                                This new development actually adds a nice little twist, I think. The system has become a little less systematic. There's room for individuality in it. What I'm planning to do is run the system with my own picks, under the assumption that one of my picks will hit before it loses 4 times in a row (the opportunity for pushes being essential in how I want to play it). This allows me to have some say over where I'm placing my money on a daily basis. I actually like it better this way.
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                                                                • Marvelboy
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 03-24-08
                                                                  • 342

                                                                  #242
                                                                  How did we determine the mets?

                                                                  I thought the system was the favourite on the runline if so it would be boston?

                                                                  My book has Texas as the moneyline favourite but runline is +125 and atalnata are +130

                                                                  mmmmmmmmm
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                                                                  • Marvelboy
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 03-24-08
                                                                    • 342

                                                                    #243
                                                                    IM playing BOSTON REDSOX +115
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                                                                    • bsebal7
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 04-03-09
                                                                      • 71

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by Marvelboy
                                                                      How did we determine the mets?

                                                                      I thought the system was the favourite on the runline if so it would be boston?

                                                                      My book has Texas as the moneyline favourite but runline is +125 and atalnata are +130

                                                                      mmmmmmmmm

                                                                      That's what Jello is saying...there are going to be twists to the sytem contingent upon what book you use for the lines. I use Pinnacle...however, if you cap the games and you have 3 heavy ML favs and don't want to throw down on the biggest favorite you should still be alright. I don't have the research to validate whether or not you will never lose a game if you do not go with the highest OPENING line by Pinnacle...but with the system I read it was dedicated to using Pinnacle as the OPENING line and then betting the RL with that in a 6 game chase. I like the adjustments in this forum though and love the 3 game or 4 game chase with the -1RL being added. It's less risk overall and should win with a higher frequency. Again though....remember... it's a CHASE...and a CHASE is ALWAYS RISKY regardless of past results. Wager small!! I am afraid that is this system has 4 losses in a row which it very well may...that there will be a ton of negative posts...despite the CAUTION TAPE being put up right now!!

                                                                      BEST OF LUCK to ALL
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                                                                      • jellobiafra
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 03-08-09
                                                                        • 6291

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Well, that's another reason I like the individuality we are finding possible in this. If you choose to play this as a system chase, and you choose the picks to play each day, then you only have yourself to blame if it fails. The flip side of that is you can give yourself a little bit of credit if it succeeds. You're not just blindly following picks posted on a message board, voiding yourself of all responsibility. You actually have some control here if you want it. I think that makes this "system" not only potentially less risky, but infinitely more fun.
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