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  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #211
    tough time to bet on baseball indeed.

    I hate this time of year for baseball season.

    you got teams with playoffs guaranteed kinda in cruise control mode and then you have all these fukkin minor leaguers called up right now...

    And you have teams that are out of contention that have totally stopped caring about winning and are in development mode.


    And the prices on the teams that do most of the winning are absurd.

    I miss the days of early summer where -170 was about the most juice you would see on any given day.

    it was so much easier to find value on the underdogs
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    • bruins35
      SBR MVP
      • 09-19-11
      • 4011

      #212
      2-3 = 80 percent?
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      • hockey216
        SBR MVP
        • 08-20-08
        • 4583

        #213
        He sells you a product for $5,000, tells you that you are not allowed to use it, and then tells you that if you actually do use it, you owe him minimum of another $5,000 in damages.

        On his disclosures page, he says that you cannot use the information on his site to make financial decisions! So, he sells you a package for $5,000... then tells you that you can't even bet the plays because that would be a financial decision! Who would pay $5,000 for a product that they cannot use?

        Then he says that any breach of his terms and conditions states that you will have to pay him minimum of $5,000 per violation, and that he will terminate your service. If you bet his plays, you are breaching his terms and conditions, and will terminate your package and then claim he is entitled to damages "not less than $5,000" if the value cannot be determined... So you pay him 5,000 for his package, then when you bet his plays and go against his "you cant use my plays to make financial decisions" clause, he sues you and gets another $5,000+ (MINIMUM) for damages. And he terminates your package (which you could never use to begin with).

        In other words, you pay him minimum $10,000 if you buy his yearly package and actually bet one of his plays.

        Anybody want to pay him $10,000?

        did you also wonder why he made his business an LLC? So he has LIMITED LIABILITY... meaning his personal assets are protected should a judgement be levied against the company (for fraud, bankruptcy, etc.). His buyer contract also requires you to agree to a blanket indemnity clause, agreeing to hold him harmless of EVERYTHING (fraud, etc.).

        My personal opinion is that his terms and conditions constitute unethical business practices. Particularly his BLANKET INDEMNITY and his general practice of charging up to $5,000 for an investment product that he specifically tells you that you cannot use, then saying you owe him $5,000 in damages if you actually use the product that he is selling. Why would you pay $5,000 for something you cannot use, then want to get sued for another $5,000 just for using the product you paid for?

        That's besides the fact that my personal opinion is that his product is terrible since just betting the biggest favorite on the board every night will be losing investment. His system has proven to be bad through the first 5 documented games on this forum (2-3, -3+ units). But even if his system was good... his terms and conditions are unethical in my opinion.
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        • Jefferey13
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 07-10-13
          • 624

          #214
          Originally posted by 80percentwinner
          I honestly wouldnt mind except it wouldnt be fair to my team of analysts who have worked extremely hard this season developing a winning model for sport which is not our favorite.
          I don't think you understand the concept. You are doing your "team of analysts" a disservice here by not quoting your record correctly. You are making yourself into a joke and hurting your business. You have lost all credibility, and unless you start putting up a real record and prove it be successful, you have a 0% chance of ever making a dime.
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          • hockey216
            SBR MVP
            • 08-20-08
            • 4583

            #215
            you claim you have a team of statistics majors from top universities. What are the names of these people, what schools did they graduate from and in what years? i would like to verify that this statement is accurate and that your analysts do in fact have statistics degrees from these universities. also, what background do they have in mathematical finance? please provide documentation for these claims to prove they are not fraudulent.
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            • Filmoz
              SBR MVP
              • 10-05-11
              • 3933

              #216
              Originally posted by hockey216
              Haha it gets even better! on his disclosures page, which he prints in such small font so you can barely read it, he says that you cannot use the information on his site to make financial decisions! So, he sells you a package for $5,000... then tells you that you can't even bet the plays because that would be a financial decision! Who would pay $5,000 for a product that they cannot use?

              Then he says that any breach of his terms and conditions states that you will have to pay him minimum of $5,000 per violation, and that he will terminate your service. If you bet his plays, he can say you are breaching his terms and conditions, and will terminate your package and then claim he is entitled to damages "not less than $5,000" if the value cannot be determined... So you pay him 5,000 for his package, then when you bet his plays and go against his "you cant use my plays to make financial decisions" clause, he sues you and gets another $5,000+ (MINIMUM) for damages.

              In other words, you pay him minimum $10,000 if you buy his yearly package and actually bet one of his plays.

              So if you actually bet his plays, he terminates your service, keeps your $5,000 for yearly package (because all sales are final and no refund policy)... then claims you owe him at least another 5,000 for breaching his terms by making "financial decisions" because you bet his plays.

              Anybody want to pay him $10,000?

              did you also wonder why he made his business an LLC? So he has LIMITED LIABILITY... meaning his personal assets are protected should a judgement be levied against the company (for fraud, bankruptcy, etc.). His buyer contract also requires you to agree to a blanket indemnity clause, agreeing to hold him harmless of EVERYTHING (fraud, etc.).

              My personal opinion is that his terms and conditions constitute unethical business practices. Particularly his BLANKET INDEMNITY and his general practice of charging up to $5,000 for an investment product that he specifically tells you that you cannot use, then saying you owe him $5,000 in damages if you actually use the product that he is selling. Why would you pay $5,000 for something you cannot use, then want to get sued for another $5,000 just for using the product you paid for?

              That's besides the fact that my personal opinion is that his product is terrible since just betting the biggest favorite on the board every night will be losing investment. His system has proven to be bad through the first 5 documented games on this forum (2-3, -3+ units). But even if his system was good... his terms and conditions are shady.

              Caveat Emptor.
              Lawyer here. I don't want to waste my time breaking down why all of his fine print is unenforceable, probably unlawful, amateur-hour bullshit, but let's just say I am at it.
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              • jackmyhoggoff
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-20-10
                • 840

                #217
                A huge HOLE has been dug! 80% all have to be WINNERS now for quite awhile! GL but the clock is against you I'm afraid.
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                • riffraff24
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-20-11
                  • 7234

                  #218
                  Why are people still trying to prove something in here? We all know this guy is a fraud, a scammer, and a bad capper. So let's just have our good laugh and move on.
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                  • 80percentwinner
                    Restricted User
                    • 08-18-13
                    • 39

                    #219
                    Tampa bay -108
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                    • innovation
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-27-12
                      • 6218

                      #220
                      If you had to pick a dog today mr 80% who would ya take?
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                      • thunderous
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-05-12
                        • 1870

                        #221
                        Originally posted by 80percentwinner
                        Tampa bay -108
                        I feel better about my NYY bet now!!
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                        • hockey216
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-20-08
                          • 4583

                          #222
                          hey 80percent winners provide us with documentation that your team really has degrees in statistics from top universities.
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                          • birdmanweezy
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-18-10
                            • 4635

                            #223
                            Originally posted by bruins35
                            2-3 = 80 percent?
                            math checks out fine
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                            • Filmoz
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-05-11
                              • 3933

                              #224
                              Originally posted by hockey216
                              hey 80percent winners provide us with documentation that your team really has degrees in statistics from top universities.
                              I'll give you 10-1 that he and his "team" are business undergraduates at like UC Irvine or something, and maybe throw in a "pre-law" friend who wrote that horrendous disclaimer page.
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                              • stuck621
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-08-09
                                • 861

                                #225
                                Originally posted by 80percentwinner
                                Tampa bay -108


                                I'm putting my whole welfare check on this.....lets cash 80!
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                                • 80percentwinner
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 08-18-13
                                  • 39

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by Filmoz
                                  I'll give you 10-1 that he and his "team" are business undergraduates at like UC Irvine or something, and maybe throw in a "pre-law" friend who wrote that horrendous disclaimer page.
                                  Actually for your information we all went to top 25 universities. Have had jobs in investment banking/equity research. All did the mathematical finance option offered at our school. And the guy who advised on the disclosures went to NYU law. Yes we have dipped a bit below 80% I am confident we will get back there. Only thing that separated us from a completely different response on these forums. I start posting one week earlier and what would everyone be saying about 7-0 to start? Guarantee people would still be complaining no dogs and avg ML of 180 is too high. We offer a product you don't have to like it but if you do we are glad to have your business.

                                  -JB
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                                  • Grizzlies918
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 05-29-12
                                    • 371

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by 80percentwinner
                                    Tampa bay -108
                                    Thank God I'm on Yankees!!
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                                    • joco
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-24-11
                                      • 3242

                                      #228
                                      even tho this thread has been a joke so far...i am on tbay as well...but that has nothing to do with u picking them

                                      finally u pick something less than -240 odds
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                                      • ShogunRua
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-23-09
                                        • 4668

                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by riffraff24
                                        Why are people still trying to prove something in here? We all know this guy is a fraud, a scammer, and a bad capper. So let's just have our good laugh and move on.
                                        This.

                                        Originally posted by 80percentwinner
                                        Actually for your information we all went to top 25 universities. Have had jobs in investment banking/equity research. All did the mathematical finance option offered at our school. And the guy who advised on the disclosures went to NYU law. Yes we have dipped a bit below 80% I am confident we will get back there. Only thing that separated us from a completely different response on these forums. I start posting one week earlier and what would everyone be saying about 7-0 to start? Guarantee people would still be complaining no dogs and avg ML of 180 is too high. We offer a product you don't have to like it but if you do we are glad to have your business.

                                        -JB
                                        You aren't fooling anyone with an iq higher than their shoe size.
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                                        • ItsMeMrMattE
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-30-10
                                          • 5294

                                          #230
                                          is he really trying to sell his picks for 5k? that seems ridiculous, even for tout standards right? especially considering if you bet $100=unit games like most do you would be no where close to recouping your costs, even if his unverifiable record is legit. funny how sbr lets this shit continue, but a legit winning poster who may or may not be touting, mr miyagi for example, is booted immediately. sbr be in bed, bent over and taking it in the butt, with the books, but i guess we all gotta make money somehow right.
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                                          • Filmoz
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-05-11
                                            • 3933

                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by ShogunRua
                                            This.



                                            You aren't fooling anyone with an iq higher than their shoe size.
                                            Amen.
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                                            • Filmoz
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-05-11
                                              • 3933

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by 80percentwinner
                                              Actually for your information we all went to top 25 universities. Have had jobs in investment banking/equity research. All did the mathematical finance option offered at our school. And the guy who advised on the disclosures went to NYU law. Yes we have dipped a bit below 80% I am confident we will get back there. Only thing that separated us from a completely different response on these forums. I start posting one week earlier and what would everyone be saying about 7-0 to start? Guarantee people would still be complaining no dogs and avg ML of 180 is too high. We offer a product you don't have to like it but if you do we are glad to have your business.

                                              -JB


                                              You're done here buddy. You gave it a shot, just move on.
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                                              • hockey216
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-20-08
                                                • 4583

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by 80percentwinner
                                                Actually for your information we all went to top 25 universities. Have had jobs in investment banking/equity research. All did the mathematical finance option offered at our school. And the guy who advised on the disclosures went to NYU law. Yes we have dipped a bit below 80% I am confident we will get back there. Only thing that separated us from a completely different response on these forums. I start posting one week earlier and what would everyone be saying about 7-0 to start? Guarantee people would still be complaining no dogs and avg ML of 180 is too high. We offer a product you don't have to like it but if you do we are glad to have your business.

                                                -JB
                                                Did you graduate? how many people are there? what colleges did you go to? was your degree in statistics or in finance? were your jobs full time or internships? what is the title of your degrees and what university issued them? please provide the names of your analysts, the school, and the graduation year. i want to verify that you actually have the college degrees you are claiming.
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                                                • hockey216
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-20-08
                                                  • 4583

                                                  #234
                                                  a lawyer from NYU law advised you to charge $5,000 for an investment product, and then tell customers that they are not allowed to use it?

                                                  Why would someone pay $5,000 for a product that you state they are not allowed to use?
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                                                  • Filmoz
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-05-11
                                                    • 3933

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by hockey216
                                                    a lawyer from NYU law advised you to charge $5,000 for an investment product, and then tell customers that they are not allowed to use it?

                                                    Why would someone pay $5,000 for a product that you state they are not allowed to use?
                                                    I'm impressed that he was smart enough to pick NYU Law as his bullshit rather than a dead giveaway like Harvard.
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                                                    • Filmoz
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-05-11
                                                      • 3933

                                                      #236
                                                      I'm too lazy to go back through the thread and see if this has been mentioned already, but has anybody picked up on the fact that this is a Brandon Lang affiliated site? It's right there in the fine print, although it is conspicuously absent from any other area of the site.
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                                                      • hockey216
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-20-08
                                                        • 4583

                                                        #237
                                                        If you have a statistics degree, then answer the following questions. They are very easy and could be completed by anyone that took 1 statistics class in college. answer these to prove you have a statistics degree. there are 7questions.

                                                        1. Show that ∑(Y-Ῡ)^2/n is a biased estimator for σ, and find the unbiased estimator with proof that it is unbiased.
                                                        2. if a basketball player averages 80% from the free throw line, what is the probability that he makes 8 out of his next 10 free throws?

                                                        1. 3) A study to determine whether drug reduces cholesterol is being studied. In a sample of 15 studies, the average person had cholesterol reduced by x=3.4 units with a standard error of 2.9. Is this sufficient to determine that the drug is effective? Use alpha=0.05.
                                                        2. 4) An average of 5 cars drive by a store every hour. What is the probability that more than 7 cars drive by in the next hour?
                                                        3. 5) A SRS is drawn from a normal population with mean=5 and std dev=2. What is the probability that the sample average will be greater than 7?
                                                        4. 6) The effectiveness of 2 drugs that lower cholesterol is being tested. Two samples are drawn from the same normal population. In 1 sample they use the first drug on all patients, in 2nd sample they use 2nd drug on all the patients. The data shows the mean reduction for the first sample of n=10 patients is 1.2 with a std error of 0.8, and the second sample of n=10 patients show a mean reduction of 1.7 with a std error of 0.8. Is this enough to say that the second drug is more effective? Use alpha=0.05.
                                                        5. 7) show that the median is a biased estimator for mu, and that the mean is an unbiased estimator.
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                                                        • Filmoz
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-05-11
                                                          • 3933

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by hockey216
                                                          If you have a statistics degree, then answer the following questions. They are very easy and could be completed by anyone that took 1 statistics class in college. answer these to prove you have a statistics degree.


                                                          1. Show that ∑(Y-Ῡ)^2/n is a biased estimator for σ, and find the unbiased estimator with proof that it is unbiased.

                                                          2) if a basketball player averages 80% from the free throw line, what is the probability that he makes 8 out of his next 10 free throws?
                                                          1. A study to determine whether drug reduces cholesterol is being studied. In a sample of 15 studies, the average person had cholesterol reduced by x=3.4 units with a standard error of 2.9. Is this sufficient to determine that the drug is effective? Use alpha=0.05.
                                                          2. An average of 5 cars drive by a store every hour. What is the probability that more than 7 cars drive by in the next hour?
                                                          3. A SRS is drawn from a normal population with mean=5 and std dev=2. What is the probability that the sample average will be greater than 7?
                                                          4. The effectiveness of 2 drugs that lower cholesterol is being tested. Two samples are drawn from the same normal population. In 1 sample they use the first drug on all patients, in 2nd sample they use 2nd drug on all the patients. The data shows the mean reduction for the first sample of n=10 patients is 1.2 with a std error of 0.8, and the second sample of n=10 patients show a mean reduction of 1.7 with a std error of 0.8. Is this enough to say that the second drug is more effective? Use alpha=0.05.
                                                          Did you take stats in college? Econometrics in particular kicked my ass.
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                                                          • JMon
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-11-09
                                                            • 9800

                                                            #239
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                                                            • hockey216
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-20-08
                                                              • 4583

                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by Filmoz
                                                              Did you take stats in college? Econometrics in particular kicked my ass.
                                                              i just made those questions up now off top of my head. they are EXTREMELY easy for anyone that took statistics. even if he doesnt have stat degree he should be able to answer those if he took just 1 or 2 classes. even statistics in high school would teach you that shit. these are very easy. This way, if he cant answer these, we know hes full of shit and he doesnt have a stat degree.

                                                              next im going to give him some financial mathematics questions... all straight forward shit annuities duration. maybe ill ask him to statistically derive the capital asset pricing model or options pricing.
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                                                              • ItsMeMrMattE
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-30-10
                                                                • 5294

                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by hockey216
                                                                If you have a statistics degree, then answer the following questions. They are very easy and could be completed by anyone that took 1 statistics class in college. answer these to prove you have a statistics degree. there are 7questions.

                                                                1. Show that ∑(Y-Ῡ)^2/n is a biased estimator for σ, and find the unbiased estimator with proof that it is unbiased.
                                                                2. if a basketball player averages 80% from the free throw line, what is the probability that he makes 8 out of his next 10 free throws?

                                                                1. 3) A study to determine whether drug reduces cholesterol is being studied. In a sample of 15 studies, the average person had cholesterol reduced by x=3.4 units with a standard error of 2.9. Is this sufficient to determine that the drug is effective? Use alpha=0.05.
                                                                2. 4) An average of 5 cars drive by a store every hour. What is the probability that more than 7 cars drive by in the next hour?
                                                                3. 5) A SRS is drawn from a normal population with mean=5 and std dev=2. What is the probability that the sample average will be greater than 7?
                                                                4. 6) The effectiveness of 2 drugs that lower cholesterol is being tested. Two samples are drawn from the same normal population. In 1 sample they use the first drug on all patients, in 2nd sample they use 2nd drug on all the patients. The data shows the mean reduction for the first sample of n=10 patients is 1.2 with a std error of 0.8, and the second sample of n=10 patients show a mean reduction of 1.7 with a std error of 0.8. Is this enough to say that the second drug is more effective? Use alpha=0.05.
                                                                5. 7) show that the median is a biased estimator for mu, and that the mean is an unbiased estimator.
                                                                this is why i dropped out of college.
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                                                                • Jefferey13
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 07-10-13
                                                                  • 624

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by hockey216
                                                                  yes. i actually do have a statistics degree from a top 25 university. i just made those questions up now off top of my head. they are EXTREMELY easy for anyone that took statistics. even if he doesnt have stat degree he should be able to answer those if he took just 1 or 2 classes. even statistics in high school would teach you that shit. these are very easy. This way, if he cant answer these, we know hes full of shit and he doesnt have a stat degree.

                                                                  next im going to give him some financial mathematics questions... all straight forward shit annuities duration. maybe ill ask him to statistically derive the capital asset pricing model or black scholes formula.
                                                                  Yes I took entry level stats with a degree in business and those questions aren't that hard. But if this was my thread, and I was the smartest statistician alive, I still wouldn't humor you by taking the time to answer them all, because it wouldn't prove anything.
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                                                                  • hockey216
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-20-08
                                                                    • 4583

                                                                    #243
                                                                    it would take someone 2 minutes to solve those. literally. if you were statistics major you could solve those in under 5 minutes. very easy questions. doesnt prove he was stat major... just proves he has high school education in statistics. if he cant do high school statistics then hes full of shit about his statistics degree from top 25 university.
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                                                                    • AchillesTG
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-19-13
                                                                      • 1648

                                                                      #244
                                                                      My old statistics teacher in college told us, he went to Vegas twice a year and he always reached his goal.

                                                                      He would lose $500 bucks and quit!

                                                                      I have been a Server Engineer for 15yrs and know quite a bit of math and probabilities, but that sure does not equate to MLB where there are so many angles and uncertainties.
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                                                                      • Jefferey13
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 07-10-13
                                                                        • 624

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by AchillesTG

                                                                        I have been a Server Engineer for 15yrs and know quite a bit of math and probabilities, but that sure does not equate to MLB where there are so many angles and uncertainties.
                                                                        Ya you're right, you can know how to compute any type of formulas and functions and that won't help you be successful. You have to design a formula that shows an edge, that's the hard part. I mean technically you don't even need extensive stats knowledge. Maybe there is a proven stat out there that shows every time a lefty is on the mound during a day game then he has a +EV chance of winning. Trouble is finding that niche.
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