Demonatas Tennis

[tommygun]

Also I found it fkn hilarious when you picked Klaasen over Minar citing he was black and has "fast twitch muscle fibres". Good pick!

[Demonata]

So I will tell you now: Don't compare yourself to EaglesPhan nor myself. We may be great at tennis betting sometimes and other times we suck. But I promise you, our picks are always in well before a match starts and everyone always knows how much we bet. If you're not doing both of those things then you're merely wasting bandwidth with your thread. Seriously - people are in here to try to make money and because we love tennis. This is nonsense.

So no point in me posting my picks because everyone only calls me a liar and spams my thread and you welcome it. Thoguht mods were supposed to be neutral but I guess not.

[Demonata]

So I will tell you now: Don't compare yourself to EaglesPhan nor myself. We may be great at tennis betting sometimes and other times we suck. But I promise you, our picks are always in well before a match starts and everyone always knows how much we bet. If you're not doing both of those things then you're merely wasting bandwidth with your thread. Seriously - people are in here to try to make money and because we love tennis. This is nonsense. Yes, you will make money with Shari and EaglesPhan. That is the reason they are here! Just follow them to wealth. They bet thousands while you wager 20.00 Do not stump on their forum, they own it! Dare to compete and EaglesPhan will call you a clown. Now get out of here you intruder and get lost.

**** you.

[tommygun]

Shari was clearly pointing out your lies, so in a form yes that is moderating, wanker.

[jackskin]

tommygun, how much you make on EaglesPhan?

[Demonata]

Shari you can't honestly say I'm not treated like shit when I post anything even if I prove how much I bet I'm called a liar.

[Demonata]

Thanks for letting everyone spam my thread.

[Demonata]

Thanks for letting everyone spam my thread shari.

[Demonata]

tommygun, how much you make on EaglesPhan?

You should leave this forum. You are a troll.

[Demonata]

I think you're a bit misguided as to what the purpose of this forum is. It's to help each other out to make money by sharing tips and insight. And also some of us just genuinely love tennis. None of us are genius pro's - if we were, we wouldn't be posting our bets on a public forum. But there are several posters who have threads with their plays in them and don't have this conversation happening in those threads - I wonder why. I look forward to when you post your plays. Best of luck.

So mods are allowed to go off topic and spam threads. Thanks for ruining my favorite sport to talk about shari. I hope you feel good about yourself for spamming my thread and letting everyone treat me like shit.

[tommygun]

tommygun, how much you make on EaglesPhan?

I don't 'tail' anyone on this forum, I go by my own picks, but I come on here for good advice from Shari and EaglesPhan.

[tommygun]

Demonata, no one is spamming your thread you idiot. We are pointing out the inaccuracies that you post. Your a clown, give it up cry baby, this place is for adults only.

[Demonata]

16-8 after Sergiy won. 86244374-18/23/11 2:54pm$3.50$2.19$5.69Win8/23/11 3:00pm ATP Tennis 150 Sergiy Stakhovsky -160* vs Andrey Golubev

[Demonata]

I'm not attacking anyone anymore.

[Demonata]

You must be in love with me tommygun.

[shari91]

16-8 after Sergiy won. 86244374-18/23/11 2:54pm$3.50$2.19$5.69Win8/23/11 3:00pm ATP Tennis 150 Sergiy Stakhovsky -160* vs Andrey Golubev Didn't bet a lot on it because this one really could of gone either way. IS this good enough for you shari or am I still a liar?

So after Sergiy won you tell us you bet $3.50 on him. And you think this is a way of proving a point? Surely you're not being serious. No one cares how much you bet - what people are looking for is consistency. Again: You've started 3 threads for a reason. You're posting neither accurate records nor bets before matches start. What is the point of this?

[jackskin]

Sorry I replied. Should have known better. LOL I was defending you and you attack me.
I am gone forever on the sorry tennis Forum thread. Post your picks on the Players Talk forum and leave this to EaglesPhan and Shari. We are not welcome here.

[jdrb]

I love you long time

[Demonata]

Ok guys here is a question I have. In what way can I start over? I will post how much I bet and post all my plays before the game starts etc. I'm sorry about anyway I disrespected you guys and for not being clearer in my picks. I got too hot headed and became more and more mad. I'm sorry again and I hope we can put this behind us if I start posting how much I bet so it will be more proof and only post all picks before matches start because does not help people to not be able to bet on them. I'm sorry again guys and don't know any other way to apologize. Can we just forgive and forget and get back to enjoying tennis? I really do enjoy talking to you all. Really the only place I can talk about tennis. Sorry everyone. People make mistakes. I admit I made a lot with my betting thread. Was way unorganized and I really didn't help much. Hope you forgive me.

[shari91]

Demonata, I'll tell you this again. If you're a person who bets fluctuating amounts like it seems you do ie I've seen bets of yours now from $3.50 to $60, just post your play and how much you're risking. That's all. All of us (including you I think) have threads because we want to talk about our bets and help each other out. It's not a poker game where we take money from each other. But you posting stuff after matches have finished or saying you bet $60 on one and $3.50 on another, again after matches have finished, well how are the people who want to follow you supposed to know when to change their bet amounts if you don't tell them?

I bet big chunks of money. It's great when I win but when I lose it's awful - I think I've lost 8k of profit on my spreadsheet in the past 3 months. However anyone who looks at my bets knows if I'm betting one unit, two units, etc... Even if your unit is $1 and mine is $200, everyone can make that decision and bet accordingly.

You're getting so much grief in your threads because they're seriously not helpful. No one cares if you're losing money and no one cares that you bet 3 bucks. But they do care if you're being transparent with what you're doing. Padding our records doesn't help anyone. I can turn around and say yeah ok I've lost 8k on my spreadsheet but I've live bet my way out of a lot of that so I'm maybe down $1500 in tennis profits now. But who does that help? That does nothing for no one other than trying to make myself look ok. That's the point we're all getting at. I think you're a good guy - you're just going about this the wrong way.

[Demonata]

Demonata, I'll tell you this again. If you're a person who bets fluctuating amounts like it seems you do ie I've seen bets of yours now from $3.50 to $60, just post your play and how much you're risking. That's all. All of us (including you I think) have threads because we want to talk about our bets and help each other out. It's not a poker game where we take money from each other. But you posting stuff after matches have finished or saying you bet $60 on one and $3.50 on another, again after matches have finished, well how are the people who want to follow you supposed to know when to change their bet amounts if you don't tell them? I bet big chunks of money. It's great when I win but when I lose it's awful - I think I've lost 8k of profit on my spreadsheet in the past 3 months. However anyone who looks at my bets knows if I'm betting one unit, two units, etc... Even if your unit is $1 and mine is $200, everyone can make that decision and bet accordingly. You're getting so much grief in your threads because they're seriously not helpful. No one cares if you're losing money and no one cares that you bet 3 bucks. But they do care if you're being transparent with what you're doing. Padding our records doesn't help anyone. I can turn around and say yeah ok I've lost 8k on my spreadsheet but I've live bet my way out of a lot of that so I'm maybe down $1500 in tennis profits now. But who does that help? That does nothing for no one other than trying to make myself look ok. That's the point we're all getting at. I think you're a good guy - you're just going about this the wrong way.

Thanks great post. The U.S. Open(one of my favorite tournaments) is coming up so let's all just forgive and forget. I'm going to start telling how many units I bet etc. I think $1 will be each unit.

[eddie0vedder]

Usually 1 unit is $100, if the odds are + you rusk 1 unit, if the odds are - you risk more to win 1u, that us how most people bet. Then people can adjust their unit size to what they can afford. If you make your unit $1 it could get a little messy

[tommygun]

$1 units=too small.=mickey mouse bets.

[RollPlayer]

Here's an easy way to do units.

Betting on a favorite you bet to win a unit. So betting on -160 woruld be Risking 1.6 units to win 1 unit.

Betting on underdogs you bet one unit to win whatever the dog pays. So on a +160 it would be Risking 1 unit to win 1.6 units.

So just pick what you want as your unit size (judging by what i've seen of your posted bets I would pick around $5) and keep it consistent. Make sure to post your w/l and your units gained/lost and you'll get a lot more positive attention in your thread. For example 10-6 +2.17 units

[KARAMBA]

Hey DEMONATA,

I agree with Rollplayer. Let all the confusion be over.

Just pick a permanent unit size. 1 unit = $5 (for you). And everytime you bet, mention how many units you are betting
Example (when you bet underdog) -> I risk 3 units to win 5 units.
Example (when you bet favorite) -> I risk 2 units to win 0.5 units

That will tell us, you are risking $15 to win $25 (for the underdog bet) and risking $10 to win $2.50 (for the favorite bet).
And say, if you win the underdog bet and lose the favorite bet. Then your total net for the day would be = 5-2 = +3units = $15.

And please don't post any bets after the match has started. Of course, it would be nice to discuss the match once it has started.

So to summarize
1) Please post "risking units" and "to win units" always (this way, you don't need to mention the odds like +300, -150 etc)
2) Please post before match starts.

It does not matter how much you win or lose, people will be around here in your thread to hear your insight. Now don't go starting another thread. You can make this one a really good one

[ravitri2k]

Sorry I replied. Should have known better. LOL I was defending you and you attack me.
I am gone forever on the sorry tennis Forum thread. Post your picks on the Players Talk forum and leave this to EaglesPhan and Shari. We are not welcome here.

Way to go Demonata lol! You attack Jackskin who was supporting you. This is too hilarious. You are a total idiot lol

[jackskin]

RollPlayer and KARAMBA thanks for turning this into a positve direction
Good suggestions and it is nice to hear kind words instead of "clown"

[Demonata]

Thanks everybody for the help. You all are awesome. Yes 1 unit will be $5 for me.

[Demonata]

RollPlayer and KARAMBA thanks for turning this into a positve direction Good suggestions and it is nice to hear kind words instead of "clown"

Sorry again for attacking you man I was in a fit of rage haha.

[Demonata]

Hey DEMONATA, I agree with Rollplayer. Let all the confusion be over. Just pick a permanent unit size. 1 unit = $5 (for you). And everytime you bet, mention how many units you are betting Example (when you bet underdog) -> I risk 3 units to win 5 units. Example (when you bet favorite) -> I risk 2 units to win 0.5 units That will tell us, you are risking $15 to win $25 (for the underdog bet) and risking $10 to win $2.50 (for the favorite bet). And say, if you win the underdog bet and lose the favorite bet. Then your total net for the day would be = 5-2 = +3units = $15. And please don't post any bets after the match has started. Of course, it would be nice to discuss the match once it has started. So to summarize 1) Please post "risking units" and "to win units" always (this way, you don't need to mention the odds like +300, -150 etc) 2) Please post before match starts. It does not matter how much you win or lose, people will be around here in your thread to hear your insight. Now don't go starting another thread. You can make this one a really good one

What a great post thanks.

[Demonata]

Here's an easy way to do units. Betting on a favorite you bet to win a unit. So betting on -160 woruld be Risking 1.6 units to win 1 unit. Betting on underdogs you bet one unit to win whatever the dog pays. So on a +160 it would be Risking 1 unit to win 1.6 units. So just pick what you want as your unit size (judging by what i've seen of your posted bets I would pick around $5) and keep it consistent. Make sure to post your w/l and your units gained/lost and you'll get a lot more positive attention in your thread. For example 10-6 +2.17 units

Another great post. Thanks man.

[Demonata]

Ok here is todays.

/24/11 12:00pm ATP Tennis 129 Julien Benneteau -170* vs Igor Andreev

.5 units.

[Demonata]

Sorry hurried and tried to get it in fast before match started.

This one could be a toss up I give benneteau the edge because he has beaten Fedderer and other opponents and in my opinion a better player.

[Demonata]

Ok so my record is 0-0 but I'm going to keep the record but start posting how many units. I will just start at 0 right now so I don't get confused.

[eddie0vedder]

i dont think your ever gonna get it, your starting fresh, your record starts at 0-0. so your risking $4.25 to win $2.50 right?