Matt's Tennis Plays & Record keeping...

[zec]

Matt you are/were one of the most respected posters around here. You can expect something like this from a troll poster with 5-10 posts, but not from a longtime SBR pro.
I can't speak for others, but personally i'm disappointed it.

I wasn't going to say anything but I am disappointed too, I made a large wager on Fischer, I didn't expect Matt to post something he didn't back up himself with 40 units. But he doesn't owe us anything, I get that; however, I can't help but be very disappointed.

[Cappinpicks]

[Hardcoar]

I never did like matt

I hate how he pops into other peoples threads and posts like this, as if he has some immortal wisdom that needs to be highlighted by bold and italics. Like he has some information that nobody else posseses, and everyone should listen to him

hope this guy gets run off the forum

seriously, who posts a 40 unit wager and then says JUST KIDDING!

I wonder if he would have claimed to not bet it if Fisher won

Who? A whole lot of people do!

[rankslash]

I never did like matt

I hate how he pops into other peoples threads and posts like this, as if he has some immortal wisdom that needs to be highlighted by bold and italics. Like he has some information that nobody else posseses, and everyone should listen to him

hope this guy gets run off the forum

seriously, who posts a 40 unit wager and then says JUST KIDDING!

I wonder if he would have claimed to not bet it if Fisher won

It's a discussion forum. He gives an opinion.

[onemoregoal]

im also very disappointed today for different reasons.
one of which is the film "moon", i dont understand what this shit is.


but lols, 40u!

[matt1216]

guys, guys, I've been a long time poster, yes I've made a ton of plays. Yes, the Ficher play was BS, but I did think he would win. Most of my plays have been legit. I posted ALL my legit plays last year. What else do I have to prove? Do you guys realize how many winners I have made on big plays? For nothing in return? It seems that many forget this.

Sirtysree,

i was very serious about that system. If I used a diffrent book, maybe things woulda been diffrent. It was a trend, the same trend that took me to 9-1 on 2-0 sets wagering befor Hass ruined it. I must have been doing something right, in 4 seperate threads I've had nearly 250,000 views and many comments. Please, I'll be more than happy to comment on your succesful thread.

Pattymayo,

you don't see me giving you a hard time for your recent stretch of bad plays. I'm not sure why your hating on me so much.

I comment on everybody's threads and sometimes I give the opposite pick a lot of consideration. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do? I posted yesterday in Losschaser's forum about how he might be making a silly decision because the odds were a complete " hook line and sinker" scenario. Im willing to bet some people stayed away because of those comments. I just voice my opinions that's all.

[pattymayo]

Pattymayo,

you don't see me giving you a hard time for your recent stretch of bad plays. I'm not sure why your hating on me so much.

I comment on everybody's threads and sometimes I give the opposite pick a lot of consideration. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do? I posted yesterday in Losschaser's forum about how he might be making a silly decision because the odds were a complete " hook line and sinker" scenario. Im willing to bet some people stayed away because of those comments. I just voice my opinions that's all.

because you're full of shit and you need to be called out!

anyone who has to say "most of my plays have been legit" or " Yes, the Ficher play was BS" I mean, come the penetrate on.

This whole thread is fraud, from your unit sizes to not even backing the bets you play.

In fact, I hope you stick around so we can all watch you run yourself into the ground chasing 20 unit bets with 30 unit bets, then a 40 unit bet on some random 250 qualifier

you have issues pal

[matt1216]

because you're full of shit and you need to be called out!

anyone who has to say "most of my plays have been legit" or " Yes, the Ficher play was BS" I mean, come the penetrate on.

This whole thread is fraud, from your unit sizes to not even backing the bets you play.

In fact, I hope you stick around so we can all watch you run yourself into the ground chasing 20 unit bets with 30 unit bets, then a 40 unit bet on some random 250 qualifier

you have issues pal

I'll be around, I'm not a huge fckin oyster after I lose plays. Post another loser bud

Ill lll be sure to destroy your threads and call u out when they lose.

[pattymayo]

I'll be around, I'm not a huge fckin oyster after I lose plays. Post another loser bud

Ill lll be sure to destroy your threads and call u out when they lose.

Of course not, because you've admitted not even betting what you post

at least ill post a ticket win or lose

Why won't you?

[matt1216]

Of course not, because you've admitted not even betting what you post

at least ill post a ticket win or lose

Why won't you?

My point was, i have nothing left to prove. I've posted many plays that won/lost last year. I still make plays that win/lose. I still put money on Ficher, just not 40 units. I have never seen you post a pick. I've seen you create many threads though.

[Goat Milk]

I would have to agree.

There's now way you are betting that kind of cash. You started off putting like 3 units 3 units. Then you lost on a couple big plays now all the sudden you're throwing 30 and 40 units plays out there like they're nothing.

A guy that has a standard bet of $50 = 1 unit means most of his bets will be between 1 and 3 units

You're making an average bet size of 25 units the past 2 weeks. Makes no sense.


Good luck the rest of the way. Have nothing against Matt. Seems like a nice guy. Just calling it how I see it.

[STAY STRONG]

[bababooey13]

eh matt you dont owe anyone anything let me just say that first. I also lost money on fischer tailing quickly before bed even though it went against form, odds, etc. let us know when you are actually putting some effort into your picks because your large wagers definitely seemed to be coming through more than not. to read you aren't even betting real money, and just throwing darts at this point with no effort into the thread is very disappointing.

[addictedto]

Wow, what happened to this thread

[Hardcoar]

I'll be around, I'm not a huge fckin oyster after I lose plays. Post another loser bud

Ill lll be sure to destroy your threads and call u out when they lose.

If I were your press guy I would be saying:

No... NO! That's a bad Matt!

[Hardcoar]

guys, guys, I've been a long time poster, yes I've made a ton of plays. Yes, the Ficher play was BS, but I did think he would win. Most of my plays have been legit. I posted ALL my legit plays last year. What else do I have to prove? Do you guys realize how many winners I have made on big plays? For nothing in return? It seems that many forget this.

Sirtysree,

i was very serious about that system. If I used a diffrent book, maybe things woulda been diffrent. It was a trend, the same trend that took me to 9-1 on 2-0 sets wagering befor Hass ruined it. I must have been doing something right, in 4 seperate threads I've had nearly 250,000 views and many comments. Please, I'll be more than happy to comment on your succesful thread.

Pattymayo,

you don't see me giving you a hard time for your recent stretch of bad plays. I'm not sure why your hating on me so much.

I comment on everybody's threads and sometimes I give the opposite pick a lot of consideration. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do? I posted yesterday in Losschaser's forum about how he might be making a silly decision because the odds were a complete " hook line and sinker" scenario. Im willing to bet some people stayed away because of those comments. I just voice my opinions that's all.

I think the valid point here is:

You've claimed to bet big money on bets you didn't make at all (although thinking they were more or less good), and people have lost money as a result. It is very reasonable that people are disappointed in you after having trusted you, and criticism regarding this is perfectly fair in my opinion – despite the ultimate responsibility for a bet still lying with the bettor.

Personally, I'm very curious to know why you did this in the first place. Surely you knew people would be influenced by your post. I don't see the harm in simply averting from doing it. No one is going to have a problem with you not making and posting a bet.

I very much appreciate and respect you coming clean about it (admitting your own, big mistakes shows real character, whatever else this debacle may have told you), just as I've appreciated your overall presence on the board. I hope people will cut down on the excessive and irrelevant flaming, and that this won't happen again.

I think it's unlikely to.

[kenz]

Personally, I'm very curious to know why you did this in the first place.

My personal opinion is matt wants action in his thread, more views, more talk. He has too many plays daily. It may be because of boredom or he needs a boost from this thread in his daily life.

I feel for a long time some of the bets are not backed. I dont care, he can do whatever that floats his boat.

[brandoc]

Don't mean to be a dick or anything but alarm bells were ringing much longer ago like in that set betting thread matt made. Claimed to be making profit by betting on 3 out of the 4 possible results in a 3 set match and then when called out on the math behind it and how it is a loss of money 90% of the time, then decided that he wasn't actually making the plays and it was just for people to look at despite there being units posted beside some of the plays.

My personal favourite was the plays when he said not someone to win in 3 sets = betting on the under games after he realised the math was all wrong. Also another one where he thought he made a larger profit by making two bets on 2-0 sets and 2-1 sets on the same player rather than the ML when the player won 2-0.

Pretty much proved he isn't actually making any bets at all, not just this one Fischer bet as you would realise that ur bankroll is declining rapidly when u thought it was going up.

Yeah i called out his math at the start of the yeAr on a 2u bet winning at odds of 4.0 which he said equaled +8u. Simple shit like that you can never trust a man's record.

[matt1216]

I think the valid point here is:

You've claimed to bet big money on bets you didn't make at all (although thinking they were more or less good), and people have lost money as a result. It is very reasonable that people are disappointed in you after having trusted you, and criticism regarding this is perfectly fair in my opinion – despite the ultimate responsibility for a bet still lying with the bettor.

Personally, I'm very curious to know why you did this in the first place. Surely you knew people would be influenced by your post. I don't see the harm in simply averting from doing it. No one is going to have a problem with you not making and posting a bet.

I very much appreciate and respect you coming clean about it (admitting your own, big mistakes shows real character, whatever else this debacle may have told you), just as I've appreciated your overall presence on the board. I hope people will cut down on the excessive and irrelevant flaming, and that this won't happen again.

I think it's unlikely to.

With the big unit plays, I thought I was feeling it. That's all it was. I thought I saw certain matchups better than others. I wasn't trying to ruin anybody. I got carried away with the thread in general.


Kenz,

i seriously don't care for this for views and kicks because it does nothing for me in the end. I have a well paying job + I work/teach wrestling at a gym out here at night time. Time is sometimes an issue. I've also got a GF that takes a ton of time as well. I like to chime in from time to time during the work day. As soon as I make a wager I try to post it here. In the end that huge wager was too large unit wise.

[Brooklyn Dick]

A lot of people start threads and want to show off how smart they are. So they start with one or two units. When they are stuck the units get higher to try and be in the black. After all they want to show us they are "winning" players. All of these clowns, and I mean the ones with 40 or 50 units plays are using "monopoly money". The problem is that a lot of us use real money.

I ignore anyone that posts like this. That is why I respect LT Profits. He has not been doing well lately, but he has integrity that most do not. One unit every play and accurate records. If everyone did the same win or lose the board would be a better place.

[matt1216]

Yeah i called out his math at the start of the yeAr on a 2u bet winning at odds of 4.0 which he said equaled +8u. Simple shit like that you can never trust a man's record.

Go back into the woods where you came from

[matt1216]

A lot of people start threads and want to show off how smart they are. So they start with one or two units. When they are stuck the units get higher to try and be in the black. After all they want to show us they are "winning" players. All of these clowns, and I mean the ones with 40 or 50 units plays are using "monopoly money". The problem is that a lot of us use real money.

I ignore anyone that posts like this. That is why I respect LT Profits. He has not been doing well lately, but he has integrity that most do not. One unit every play and accurate records. If everyone did the same win or lose the board would be a better place.

Look at my original tennis thread last year, all plays accounted for..... My average wager was 300-400$ I made some big time plays. I showed the tickets. I'm not sure what else people want

[Hardcoar]

With the big unit plays, I thought I was feeling it. That's all it was. I thought I saw certain matchups better than others. I wasn't trying to ruin anybody. I got carried away with the thread in general.


Kenz,

i seriously don't care for this for views and kicks because it does nothing for me in the end. I have a well paying job + I work/teach wrestling at a gym out here at night time. Time is sometimes an issue. I've also got a GF that takes a ton of time as well. I like to chime in from time to time during the work day. As soon as I make a wager I try to post it here. In the end that huge wager was too large unit wise.

Isn't it obvious what else people want is you not to claim to make big bets you didn't bet at all? The fact that one loses a bet in itself is nothing to be upset about.

Moving on... In that case, I suppose what I should be asking is: Why didn't you make the play?

[onemoregoal]

my favourite sleeping position is the starfish.
no contest, really.

[Brooklyn Dick]

Look at my original tennis thread last year, all plays accounted for..... My average wager was 300-400$ I made some big time plays. I showed the tickets. I'm not sure what else people want

You see this play. I posted the ticket before the match started. Nice size bet and legit. That is what people want. Not "monopoly" plays.

5:04am 3-Apr-14

3-Apr-14

Tennis Match Odds

Eugenie Bouchard vs Venus Williams for Match.

-166

8,300.00

5,000.0

[Hardcoar]

You see this play. I posted the ticket before the match started. Nice size bet and legit. That is what people want. Not "monopoly" plays.

5:04am 3-Apr-14

3-Apr-14

Tennis Match Odds

Eugenie Bouchard vs Venus Williams for Match.

-166

8,300.00

5,000.0

My guess is he's realized this by now. He did confirm and apologize for it after all. Whether you post the "ticket" or not is anything but interesting, as long as you do make the bet.

Please refer to:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/tennis-betting/2821640-matts-tennis-plays-record-keeping-p38.html#post21595166

http://forum.sbrforum.com/tennis-betting/2821640-matts-tennis-plays-record-keeping-p38.html#post21595170

I suppose if you don't keep a record the ticket (despite not really proving much given how easily manipulated a picture is, or in your case a simple text string) might be of greater importance.

[Brooklyn Dick]

My guess is he's realized this by now. He did confirm and apologize for it after all. Whether you post the "ticket" or not is anything but interesting, as long as you do make the bet.

Please refer to:

http://forum.sbrforum.com/tennis-betting/2821640-matts-tennis-plays-record-keeping-p38.html#post21595166

http://forum.sbrforum.com/tennis-betting/2821640-matts-tennis-plays-record-keeping-p38.html#post21595170

I suppose if you don't keep a record the ticket (despite not really proving much given how easily manipulated a picture is, or in your case a simple text string) might be of greater importance.

Are you saying I did not make this bet? Any bets made are in "history". I don't save them, they are there in the book. If you want to challenge me, I am not Matt. I bet what I say and one unit for me is 2-3 dimes.

[Hardcoar]

That's not what I meant to communicate at all, no. Since you "ask", I neither trust nor distrust you, so I assume you're truthful as long as I have no reason to suspect otherwise. Also, your copy-paste is better proof than nothing at all. I do recommend you to read my posts linked to in my previous post to better understand my point.

Matt, just like anyone else in the world, could easily copy a ticket (like you did) and edit the strings to reflect whatever they want it to. It's easier in terms of time required than grading your bets and keeping a book on it, in fact.

[pattymayo]

Moving on... In that case, I suppose what I should be asking is: Why didn't you make the play?

Because it lost, obviously

[Hardcoar]

I highly doubt he'd deliberately post something he didn't like.

[zec]

Because it lost, obviously

Um, how was he supposed to know it was going to lose... Man...

[pattymayo]

Um, how was he supposed to know it was going to lose... Man...

No, prikk, Matt admitted to forging the unit size AFTER it lost

You think he would have come clean if it had won?

[zec]

No, prikk, Matt admitted to forging the unit size AFTER it lost

You think he would have come clean if it had won?

Thanks for calling me prikk, real mature.. You were responding to HC question "why did you make a play". If you don't understand that your answer makes no sense, I can't help you, cheers.

[matt1216]

Because it lost, obviously

I honestly thought it was a very solid play.... I knew nothing of the ITF warrior. Looks like he got hot at the wrong time for me. Ficher is decent on clay and has been solid this year. Just a bad play in the end I guess

[matt1216]

No, prikk, Matt admitted to forging the unit size AFTER it lost

You think he would have come clean if it had won?

Prikk