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  • Isabellebrown
    SBR Rookie
    • 04-08-14
    • 1

    #1296
    The thread moving to other world
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    • Cappinpicks
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-11-10
      • 14986

      #1297
      isabelle hot brown
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      • Cappinpicks
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-11-10
        • 14986

        #1298
        simon or del what a match
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        • zec
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-03-14
          • 548

          #1299
          Justsomecash, not everyone is like you though. I would just ignore the request and move on. I find more satisfaction in that; I know I am right and it doesn't really matter what others think and quite frankly is hilarious to read all this if in fact he does make wagers like he says. I understand that my action or inaction is in minority but just giving you a different perspective.
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          • brodie
            SBR MVP
            • 11-25-13
            • 2212

            #1300
            wow what a joke. the members of this site are a bunch of jealous ass grown men. Matt, i probably speak for many of us when I say, I could give a fuk less how much money you are betting... you've won me money in the past and you've earned my respect as a tennis capper. Why does anyone else give a fuk how much you are betting? if anything it can just be used as a guide as to how confident you are in the play

            if you end up stop posting here, but are still posting plays somewhere else... hook your boy up! because i still want to see your plays
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            • JC1186
              SBR MVP
              • 02-21-14
              • 1070

              #1301
              Wait a second, the point isn't just how much. It's also whether he even backs his plays.

              He could even post a screenshot of that. Unsurprisingly I doubt he will.

              Like someone else touched on.. it's human nature in the situation Matt's in to take 2 minutes of ones time and respond to the accusations. Simple really.

              If you're not being honest than just say it! People will respect you for it. But deliberately avoiding such a simple question with a simple response is, quite frankly, pretty gutless.

              Anyway the point is when you're betting monopoly money and not risking your hard earned cash your entire approach to wagering is completely different. Do you not think people should know this?

              That's the part that is misleading. If Matt's just saying "10/15/20/30/40" units here, there and everywhere because he's not actually backing them all with real cash, then he should be honest about it, no? Instead of opening the thread with "1 unit - $50". Consequently having people think he's super confident in picks and betting 1-2K regularly.

              I mean the guy opened the thread with it. We're now at 1300 posts. It's not that big of a deal and would take the guy 2 minutes.
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              • Hardcoar
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-17-13
                • 15606

                #1302
                Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick
                The problem on any Sports Forum is that some people are playing with "Monopoly" money and others are using hard cash. Without some proof it is hard to decipher who is who.
                This is a huge problem indeed, but only because people tend to (as in almost everyone I've ever seen) not maintain a transparent, conveniently available and traceable record. Looking at my thread (which I for good reason consider a model of record-keeping), every single bet and its outcome down to the decimals can be easily found and verified, so you can always see the return on x units for every individual bet, as well as the whole thread.
                Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick
                When I see a thread with a 40 Unit bet a bell rings in my head. Who bets 40 units anyway. I made a selection not long ago and posted a ticket in advance to win 5,000. I would never say an amount like that without being able to back it up.

                I too would like to see a copy of this bet. Also who takes 2 dimes on Challenger's anyway. I have a hard time getting 2 or 3 dimes on regular matches without going to a few books.
                The number of units is irrelevant. What matters if how big a portion of one's bank-roll a unit is. This is the entire point of why you don't maintain a record in terms of monetary sums: You just insert the f*cking X and calculate the return on x units ($ for instance, if you're dollar-obsessed)!!
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                • Hardcoar
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-17-13
                  • 15606

                  #1303
                  Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick
                  When I see a thread with a 40 Unit bet a bell rings in my head. Who bets 40 units anyway. I made a selection not long ago and posted a ticket in advance to win 5,000. I would never say an amount like that without being able to back it up.

                  I too would like to see a copy of this bet. Also who takes 2 dimes on Challenger's anyway. I have a hard time getting 2 or 3 dimes on regular matches without going to a few books.
                  The number of units is irrelevant. What matters if how big a portion of one's bank-roll a unit is. This is the entire point of why you don't maintain a record in terms of monetary sums: You just insert the f*cking X and calculate the return on x units ($ for instance, if you're dollar-obsessed)!!
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                  • JustSomeCash
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-26-13
                    • 561

                    #1304
                    Originally posted by zec
                    Justsomecash, not everyone is like you though. I would just ignore the request and move on. I find more satisfaction in that; I know I am right and it doesn't really matter what others think and quite frankly is hilarious to read all this if in fact he does make wagers like he says. I understand that my action or inaction is in minority but just giving you a different perspective.
                    No problem, I get that, and respect that everyone is free to do what they want..

                    I'm not looking to be a troll, I have no interested harassing others, and I can say that I really appreciate his angle.
                    But the important thing is be honest, and let me be as honest with you, and show you a little disingenuous in what you said.


                    "I know I am right and it doesn't really matter what others think and quite frankly is hilarious to read all this if in fact he does make wagers like he says."

                    First,everyone, without exception, posts picks in public because they do want to know what others think or else they just want to show they are good and show off, in both cases, they need the thoughts of the others,(sorry for my english).

                    So from here on, your minimum job is to be reliable, now I'm not saying he is not reliable,but at the moment someone (Even if it is a dumb troll, and I do not think he's like that) comes and asks to see SS of your bet,and you avoid him and not answer it, it undermines all confidence in you, although it is impossible to prove you a liar, but its also impossible to prove that you're telling the truth.

                    Now this kind of thing, these are precisely the reasons that no one will take into account posts from people like Cappinpicks for example.

                    So I believe you understand my point, now if we take me for example, like I said ,I takes seriously his angles, but in the last few days, I stood in front of this situation: or the guy came Tilt as any gambler, and it is better to ignore from his own angle in the near days, or he just post air-unit seizing and bluffing everyone and then I have to ignore it permanently.

                    So I have nothing against Matt if you understand, I just want him to help me and others to take his bets and his unit-seizing seriously as he would like, otherwise he would not have posts here in the first place.

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                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-30-08
                      • 81454

                      #1305
                      These guys begging for screenshots are hilarious.

                      Just look at how much time they are putting into their posts begging for screenshots and how long the posts are.

                      Matt, fukk these guys, dont post screenshots. Let em keep begging.
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                      • Hardcoar
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-17-13
                        • 15606

                        #1306
                        Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                        These guys begging for screenshots are hilarious.

                        Just look at how much time they are putting into their posts begging for screenshots and how long the posts are.

                        Matt, fukk these guys, dont post screenshots. Let em keep begging.
                        Last edited by Hardcoar; 04-08-14, 12:01 PM.
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                        • DiggityDaggityDo
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 11-30-08
                          • 81454

                          #1307


                          Thats the best Youtube video Ever!
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                          • Hardcoar
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-17-13
                            • 15606

                            #1308
                            Ice-T kicks it to people hard and real, the way you wish you could!
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                            • JustSomeCash
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-26-13
                              • 561

                              #1309
                              Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                              These guys begging for screenshots are hilarious.

                              Just look at how much time they are putting into their posts begging for screenshots and how long the posts are.

                              Matt, fukk these guys, dont post screenshots. Let em keep begging.

                              LOL Funny guy! Where did you see someone begging?

                              JC just request, and me and other one gave our opinion on this request.

                              Matt can do and will do what the penetrate he wants,for now it does not even matter if he post screenshots,because for most of the dumb guys here, it does not even matter if someone is trustworthy or not...
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                              • JC1186
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-21-14
                                • 1070

                                #1310
                                The tennis forum would be very stale without you Hardcore.

                                DDD, no need to tell him not to bother. There's a bigger chance of Tomic somehow becoming a non-douche than there is of Matty posting a genuine screenshot.

                                This thread has been derailed enough though so moving on from here.

                                Anyway Matt hope you realise asking for a simple screen shot isn't really a big deal. So there's no need to take it all personally.
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                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-30-08
                                  • 81454

                                  #1311
                                  Originally posted by JustSomeCash
                                  LOL Funny guy! Where did you see someone begging?

                                  JC just request, and me and other one gave our opinion on this request.

                                  Matt can do and will do what the penetrate he wants,for now it does not even matter if he post screenshots,because for most of the dumb guys here, it does not even matter if someone is trustworthy or not...
                                  Requesting once... fine. Requesting MULTIPLE times? I would call that begging.
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                                  • JC1186
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-21-14
                                    • 1070

                                    #1312
                                    Originally posted by JustSomeCash
                                    because for most of the dumb guys here, it does not even matter if someone is trustworthy or not...
                                    Haha I see what you did there. Soo damn true!
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                                    • matt1216
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-27-11
                                      • 14683

                                      #1313
                                      Originally posted by JC1186
                                      The tennis forum would be very stale without you Hardcore.

                                      DDD, no need to tell him not to bother. There's a bigger chance of Tomic somehow becoming a non-douche than there is of Matty posting a genuine screenshot.

                                      This thread has been derailed enough though so moving on from here.

                                      Anyway Matt hope you realise asking for a simple screen shot isn't really a big deal. So there's no need to take it all personally.

                                      Ok JC1186, I'll be honest with everyone on this forum. I believe in integrity.

                                      I did not make that Ficher Wager. I would never put that kind of money on a challenger event however,

                                      i would make twice that play on a ATP 500 or greater with players in the top 40 or so. Have I really given a

                                      shit lately? Not really. I'm waiting for the French open, where there's big money to be made. I struggled with

                                      the clay a bit last year. I made my money on the Asian part of the tour. JC1186, go back to my thread "tennis

                                      picks" last year. I have proof that I made much larger wagers than Ficher... 80 unit play " Isner vs

                                      Bautista Agut" risked 4000.00$ to win 1777.00$. Has my style been eratic? Very much so. This thread is

                                      Is getting a bit rediculous, I will have perhaps credit this as a loss as I really havnt tried/made smart decisions.



                                      Allen,

                                      were you waiting for me to screw up last year? There's no way you tracked my plays from start to finish last year and made money. I think last night was the first time I've seen you win in months
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                                      • JC1186
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-21-14
                                        • 1070

                                        #1314
                                        Appreciated it Matt. You have my respect for your honesty and we can all put this behind us.

                                        And I'm genuinely glad you didn't drop 2K on that.

                                        But I do hope you see my point. And that was you weren't backing that play... but through no fault of your own (like you said you didn't really give a shit) you lead others to believe it was as serious play that you backed heavily with real money.

                                        And that has been my only real gripe here.

                                        Anyway best of luck from here and no hard feeling.
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                                        • matt1216
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-27-11
                                          • 14683

                                          #1315
                                          Originally posted by JC1186
                                          Appreciated it Matt. You have my respect for your honesty and we can all put this behind us.

                                          And I'm genuinely glad you didn't drop 2K on that.

                                          But I do hope you see my point. And that was you weren't backing that play... but through no fault of your own (like you said you didn't really give a shit) you lead others to believe it was as serious play that you backed heavily with real money.

                                          And that has been my only real gripe here.

                                          Anyway best of luck from here and no hard feeling.
                                          Yeah man, I'll save the big plays for the masters/slams. This thread is getting rediculous lol.
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                                          • Hardcoar
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-17-13
                                            • 15606

                                            #1316
                                            Originally posted by matt1216
                                            Ok JC1186, I'll be honest with everyone on this forum. I believe in integrity.

                                            I did not make that Ficher Wager. I would never put that kind of money on a challenger event however,

                                            i would make twice that play on a ATP 500 or greater with players in the top 40 or so. Have I really given a

                                            shit lately? Not really. I'm waiting for the French open, where there's big money to be made. I struggled with

                                            the clay a bit last year. I made my money on the Asian part of the tour. JC1186, go back to my thread "tennis

                                            picks" last year. I have proof that I made much larger wagers than Ficher... 80 unit play " Isner vs

                                            Bautista Agut" risked 4000.00$ to win 1777.00$. Has my style been eratic? Very much so. This thread is

                                            Is getting a bit rediculous, I will have perhaps credit this as a loss as I really havnt tried/made smart decisions.



                                            Allen,

                                            were you waiting for me to screw up last year? There's no way you tracked my plays from start to finish last year and made money. I think last night was the first time I've seen you win in months
                                            I disrespect lying, particularly in this manner, but I do respect the integrity to at least admit it (eventually).

                                            I wonder why you did post that wager (and others like it) though, because I see no good coming from it.
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                                            • Steamroller
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-30-12
                                              • 1003

                                              #1317
                                              Hahaha so it was monopoly money after all
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                                              • Hardcoar
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-17-13
                                                • 15606

                                                #1318
                                                Originally posted by Steamroller
                                                Hahaha so it was monopoly money after all
                                                Teh plotz thickens!
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                                                • matt1216
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-27-11
                                                  • 14683

                                                  #1319
                                                  Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                  I disrespect lying, particularly in this manner, but I do respect the integrity to at least admit it (eventually).

                                                  I wonder why you did post that wager (and others like it) though, because I see no good coming from it.
                                                  While you have a valid point Hardcoar, how many people have showed a ticket over 4,000.00$ on this forum in the past? I have not once seen a legit ticket from you. I have posted well over 50 tickets in under a year.
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                                                  • Hardcoar
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-17-13
                                                    • 15606

                                                    #1320
                                                    Only a few.

                                                    I haven't seen one from myself either.

                                                    Please refer to:

                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.

                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                    • Commendatore
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 04-08-14
                                                      • 2

                                                      #1321
                                                      I just registered because of u,i lost a lot of money because of ur shitty pick with virtual money!Ur beheviour is unaccaptable!U are lying people...simple as that.Just tell me one thing...why u choose to bet so much(to stake that virtual money whatever)on that game?Tell me one logical exaplanation why u choose to play on Fischer?

                                                      Im experienced bettor but i use to follow u a bit and reading ur posts picks was informative for me,so that day i was at the job no time for readin i instantly saw ur pick and bet online(what a fool i was)after i came home i realized that everything was against that pick including odds dropping,form ect ect...i dont blame u,its my fault why i choose to put so much money but u lost a lot credit for nothing!How to believe u in the future?U could stake 5u i thought u know somthing,there are many people who follow u im sure about that.Please be serious in the future with stakes...
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                                                      • SirtySree
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-19-13
                                                        • 2370

                                                        #1322
                                                        Don't mean to be a dick or anything but alarm bells were ringing much longer ago like in that set betting thread matt made. Claimed to be making profit by betting on 3 out of the 4 possible results in a 3 set match and then when called out on the math behind it and how it is a loss of money 90% of the time, then decided that he wasn't actually making the plays and it was just for people to look at despite there being units posted beside some of the plays.

                                                        My personal favourite was the plays when he said not someone to win in 3 sets = betting on the under games after he realised the math was all wrong. Also another one where he thought he made a larger profit by making two bets on 2-0 sets and 2-1 sets on the same player rather than the ML when the player won 2-0.

                                                        Pretty much proved he isn't actually making any bets at all, not just this one Fischer bet as you would realise that ur bankroll is declining rapidly when u thought it was going up.
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                                                        • Cappinpicks
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-11-10
                                                          • 14986

                                                          #1323
                                                          who thought fizzure was going to lose? guy who beat him is a no name
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                                                          • Commendatore
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 04-08-14
                                                            • 2

                                                            #1324
                                                            Yea no name who has great record on clay on itf tournaments,great form,and odds droped on him a lot...besides that its just some qualify match on some no name challenger and u put 40 stake?!INSANE...i just asking myself why?Anger or what...
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                                                            • onemoregoal
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-04-13
                                                              • 8149

                                                              #1325
                                                              cliffnotes?
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                                                              • rankslash
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-29-13
                                                                • 1562

                                                                #1326
                                                                Originally posted by matt1216
                                                                Ok JC1186, I'll be honest with everyone on this forum. I believe in integrity.

                                                                I did not make that Ficher Wager. I would never put that kind of money on a challenger event however,

                                                                i would make twice that play on a ATP 500 or greater with players in the top 40 or so. Have I really given a

                                                                shit lately? Not really. I'm waiting for the French open, where there's big money to be made. I struggled with

                                                                the clay a bit last year. I made my money on the Asian part of the tour. JC1186, go back to my thread "tennis

                                                                picks" last year. I have proof that I made much larger wagers than Ficher... 80 unit play " Isner vs

                                                                Bautista Agut" risked 4000.00$ to win 1777.00$. Has my style been eratic? Very much so. This thread is

                                                                Is getting a bit rediculous, I will have perhaps credit this as a loss as I really havnt tried/made smart decisions.



                                                                Allen,

                                                                were you waiting for me to screw up last year? There's no way you tracked my plays from start to finish last year and made money. I think last night was the first time I've seen you win in months
                                                                Matt you are/were one of the most respected posters around here. You can expect something like this from a troll poster with 5-10 posts, but not from a longtime SBR pro.
                                                                I can't speak for others, but personally i'm disappointed it.
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                                                                • SirtySree
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-19-13
                                                                  • 2370

                                                                  #1327
                                                                  Originally posted by onemoregoal
                                                                  cliffnotes?
                                                                  - matt called out about betting with monopoly money
                                                                  - ppl agree and realise his bets r too weird
                                                                  - ppl disagree and back matt as hes a long time poster
                                                                  - matt comes out and admits playing with monopoly money
                                                                  - ppl not impressed
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                                                                  • onemoregoal
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-04-13
                                                                    • 8149

                                                                    #1328
                                                                    good cliffnotes, thanks.
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                                                                    • pattymayo
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-19-09
                                                                      • 10221

                                                                      #1329
                                                                      people actually surprised? matts one of the biggest degenerates on this site, its no surprise he's full of shit
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                                                                      • pattymayo
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-19-09
                                                                        • 10221

                                                                        #1330
                                                                        I never did like matt

                                                                        I hate how he pops into other peoples threads and posts like this, as if he has some immortal wisdom that needs to be highlighted by bold and italics. Like he has some information that nobody else posseses, and everyone should listen to him

                                                                        hope this guy gets run off the forum

                                                                        seriously, who posts a 40 unit wager and then says JUST KIDDING!

                                                                        I wonder if he would have claimed to not bet it if Fisher won
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